Hey the worst of my breakout was on my left cheek with cysts and whiteheads, but I also had really small under the skin bumps on my chin and just generally my skin was red, large pores. I think it was due to stress and coming off birth control because before that my skin was really nice. Anyways, I didnt really get a breakout my skin was just the same, no better, no worse for the first months or so then gradually and slowly got better, it was a long slow process but comparing now to seven months ago, the difference is huge, so stick with it, it will be worth it!
Posted 08 February 2014 - 08:18 AM
Cleanse: Boots No 7 Cream Cleanser for Normal/Dry Skin ( removing with some warm water and a tissue) or Priori Gentle AHA Cleanser (every few days)
Moisturise: Aveene light moisturising lotion (oil free) spf 20
Topicals: Vitage protect and perfect serum, after I moisturise now that it's coming into fall and winter
Cleanse: Boots No 7 Cream Cleanser for Normal/Dry Skin (remove with some warm water and a tissue or a damp warm wash cloth for days when I'm wearing a lot of make up) or Priori AHA Gentle Cleanser. Sometimes I will double cleanse with my cream cleanse then aha milk cleanser maybe twice a week
Moisturise: E45 cream or liz earl gentle moisturiser
Topicals: Differn 0.1% before or after moisturiser
Bliss aha mask once a week/every two weeks
Oral medication: Dianette BCP now Cilest
Supplements: Altrient B multi B vitamin lipo soluble gel formula, mix one a day with water
Current make up: Charlotte Tilbury light wonder foundation in fair 3, NARS creamy concealer, Dollish CC cream for days when I don't want to wear foundation and Jane Iredale mineral powder to finish. For some colour I use tea to tan By Terry, it's water base tint to give me some colour and various cream and powder blushes (love my blushes) currently loving Charlotte Tilbury beach sticks, lovely cream blush and bronze highlighters.
Tools: Sigma F80 Kabuki for foundation or Real Techniques beauty blender and pretty much every other real techniques for the rest of my make up
Posted 09 February 2014 - 03:36 PM
Day 26 | 4th week
Spots kept coming over the last few days, still got one or two left that are just clearing up: these ones were a bit deeper than previous ones I had. Have one on my cheek area just below the eye area: that one is a bit of a pain in the arse at the moment but I think it's going now, just feels a little raised still. The ones on my lower cheeks are definitely clearing up and I think I've got one on my forehead near the eyebrow that is forming but I haven't touched it at all: I have just applied Differin so we'll see what that looks like in the morning.
In other news, today I made an egg white face mask - let me tell you those things are so fun to peel off! When I did, my face felt tight (probably wouldn't have left it on for as long as I did, especially because I'm on Differin) but redness was severely reduced and it minimizes the look of pores (I was never one to obsess over pores because I don't really have large ones/never really noticed them - maybe that's why I have these closed comedones instead of open ones?) and my face just glowed and felt smooth and soft. Temporarily, of course but still.
And on closer inspection of the remnants of the mask that I peeled off, I could see little yellow things and the occasional plug that the mask pulled out. Seriously amazing stuff, although I would keep it to once a week/whenever you feel like you need it because I can't imagine all the pulling would be good for your skin in the long run.
What I did:
1) Cleaned my face of all makeup/moisturiser products. Face has to be clean!
2) Took one egg and separated the egg whites from the yolk. Heard the egg yolk is actually moisturising and a source of sulfur and other nutrients however it can break people out so I didn't risk it.
3) Whisked the egg whites until frothy and foamy. Read somewhere that this makes it easier for the skin to absorb(?) Questionable as I haven't seen any evidence of this, but I went along with it
4) Applied the egg whites onto face using fingers (or an old foundation brush)
5) Took some 2 ply tissue, separated that so it became 1 ply and then tore it into strips and placed on top of the mask. Make sure to cover everywhere you've put the mask.
6) Applied more egg white foam on top of that. Repeat steps 5 and 6 until satisfied.
7) Leave on until completely dry. You will find that it tightens so much that you won't be able to move your face (botox, anyone). May feel a little itchy.
8) Then peel! Peel it off slowly for maximum satisfaction.
9) Inspect mask (again, purely for satisfaction - this step's optional but come on)
10) Rinse face thoroughly with warm water and pat dry.
11) Apply moisturiser straight after. Look at face in mirror and observe. Magic, yes?
Edited by SlinkyVintage, 09 February 2014 - 03:36 PM.
Posted 10 February 2014 - 04:13 PM
Day 27 | 4th week
Today was possibly the best my skin's ever been since starting Differin (and even before starting). Everything just seems so much smoother, the bumps on my cheeks have been vastly reduced, only had one small spot on my cheek. Even the remaining bumps look like they're on their way out. I've never been happier to be honest. Only thing left is old hyperpigmentation to get rid of. If it did this in less than a month (just in time for my 18th birthday, yes), I'm excited to see what wonders it does for my skin in 3!
Will keep posted if anything drastic happens.
Edited by SlinkyVintage, 10 February 2014 - 04:13 PM.
Posted 11 February 2014 - 03:57 PM
we started our differin on the same day and the acne sounds quite similar, I always describe those little hard things as seeds too!!! lol
Posted 11 February 2014 - 05:40 PM
Ha, let's continue our journey together
And yay! I don't think I've ever seen anyone else with the same type of acne that I have, so nice to hear Probably not nice actually but you know what I mean
Posted 13 February 2014 - 11:59 AM
Day 30 | 5th week
More spots on forehead than usual (ok, not spots but the bumps are purging I guess, as the top of the 'seed' becomes visible in the middle of the bump, can usually pull 'em straight out with tweezers). Have one spot emerging from the depths on the left cheek and all the seeds in the bumps are starting to push their way out. All the proper spots I get are still on the outer area of my face. The sides of my mouth and nose creases are still flaky, really gotta be careful with where I put the Differin to be honest
Going to do another egg white face mask today, purely for more satisfaction (oddly satisfying seeing what was pulled out of your face)
Posted 15 February 2014 - 05:46 AM
Day 32 | 5th week
More spots, yay
Some deeper spots, mostly surface spots (like I said, the deeper spots seem to be on my face right next to my ears). I skipped the Differin last night because areas of my face were getting too flaky again, but will resume tonight. I can see more of a reduction in my bumps; way more of my face is clear than the areas of my face with bumps and/or spots: such a big improvement so far from before I started the treatment.
Edited by SlinkyVintage, 15 February 2014 - 05:47 AM.
Posted 15 February 2014 - 04:23 PM
ok, think mines improving again too, fingers crossed!!! I also get very deep painful spots right next to my ears!!! Really difficult to cover up!! Ive got less small bumps i thik. Its not making me to dry or flakey now, that was just in the first two weeks or so. 5 weeks soon
Posted 16 February 2014 - 03:42 AM
Yeah, we're nearly through the dreaded 4-6 week stage that everyone keeps talking about! It's not too bad, it's probably my second breakout stage but it's not as bad as the first one (which wasn't that bad either to be honest). Keep powering on through! Can't imagine what my skin would still be like if I hadn't tried Differin...
Edited by SlinkyVintage, 16 February 2014 - 03:42 AM.
Posted 16 February 2014 - 11:50 AM
hi guys, I am going to get hold of differin soon too. hopefully pick up a prescription tomorrow or tuesday. I've had this type of acne for years, I am 26 now and i would say i've had it for about 5-6 years. I used to get inflammed acne, but now its just these seeds as you say.
I saw a leading skin doctor in London Harley Street, she recommended these products>
am: Avene gentle cleanser
Sk:n exfoliator oily skin (2-3 x a week max)
Skinceuticals Phytocorrective (2-3 drops)
SPF 30 (Sk:n)
PM: Avene as above
skinceuticals as above
do you think those products and steps seem like a good plan of action? She also recommended i take the tetralysal 408mg tablets the doctor prescribed me in conjunction with that regime. However I think i would be ok with the products on their own? i guess the anti biotics would stop any potential inflammation from the purging of differin... but i think anti biotics are not good for you and you always break out in strange ways when coming off...
really want to start differin asap, i've had enough of these clogged pores (which i've squeezed out) but they keep returning, and ive got a load of pigmentation does differin speed that up and fade them?
Edited by .JacktheLad., 16 February 2014 - 11:53 AM.
Posted 16 February 2014 - 01:26 PM
Hmm... I have never tried these products, however, doing a quick search of them, I personally wouldn't go with the exfoliator all the time (especially in the morning) purely because it's a chemical exfoliator and as the retinol in the Differin makes the skin more sensitive, I just think it would be a bit much.
Maybe if you had a lot of flakiness, I would use it in the evening especially if your skin is prone to going red after such treatments. It all boils down to personal preference and how tough your skin is. I would definitely go with the Avene gentle cleanser and I could see why she would recommend the corrective gel to speed up healing (pigmentation), but I'd say it would be an optional product because I find that Differin helps with the pigmentation too. If you're not happy with the rate your skin is healing, thn I'd say give the corrective gel a go. Would definitely use the Differin at night with nothing else and the moisturiser/SPF in the morning. Overall, I'd say a good shout with these products, no harm in trying them.
I also personally think that antibiotics aren't a necessity, especially with the effects that coming off them seem to have on the skin. Yeah, you will eventually develop a tolerance to the antibiotics and may need a higher dose for the same effects: I wouldn't take any type of medication unless I absolutely had to, I live by the 'no pain, no gain' rule hahaa Of course, it is entirely your decision whether or not to go with them but I wouldn't myself. Maybe if it was a topical antibiotic such as Erythromycin or Clindamycin, which I've heard good reviews of but the products you have already (such as the corrective gel and exfoliator) should be alright on their own. Try it without antibiotics first?
Yeah I was really tired of the whole clogged pores thing, and like you, tired of squeezing them out only to have them return again. For me, it did have a positive effect relatively fast: I didn't have much of a problem with breakouts: sure, I had days where my skin was worse (in one of those stages now) but I knew that the Differin would heal it all up quick: in most cases, the next day so I wasn't too bummed out. I still have those clogged pores but they're all coming up to the surface/disappearing now so I'm pretty happy As for the pigmentation, it does help but not massively. They have been fading but I'm not sure whether that's due to the Differin or the niacinamide I apply onto my skin every day.
By the way, I wouldn't squeeze any clogged pores you may see because it just serves to make your skin red and look worse than it actually is
Edited by SlinkyVintage, 16 February 2014 - 01:26 PM.
Posted 16 February 2014 - 05:17 PM
Yeah she stressed 2-3 times Max for the exfoliant. she said use the differin every other night until you get used to it, see how the skin reacts, dry flaky skin doesn't sound good!
gentle cleanser sounds like a must then good. yes the corrective stuff is the moisturiser i think it works to hydrate deep down in the skin, hmm so differin on its own at night you say after a cleanse..
I agree on the anti biotic side of things, hence i haven't started them. i think she thought my skin was inflammed which tbf it was... from the horrible picking i did. its a bit of a bloody mess right now i pick at it when i'm stressed, and having clogged pores is like giving crack to an addict.
i dont own any of these products yet, I think through work i get 20% discount from Sk:n, so i am going to wait and see if thats the case. at the moment I head read a lot about the whole not washing the face at all... and i am very tempted to try this although its the complete opposite end of the spectrum to this...
from your experience it does seem that differin is working rather well, AHA has been the only thing for me that really speeds up the process of dark marks from picking. or a moisturiser. the key is keeping the skin moist but not blocking it... something i find impossible.
yes again i wish i never squeezed my skin, its got some minor scarring here and there from where its become clogged through products, then me going at it too hard and breaking it. i have some shallow marks here and there, but i am hoping those will be fixable either over time or through dermapen or similar treatment.
you are right though it makes it seem a lot worse than it would be
Posted 17 February 2014 - 08:08 AM
There were nights where I had to give the Differin a miss because it was making my face quite flaky, so on those nights I just used a nice moisturiser instead. And yeah, Differin on its own because I feel like applying other products under or over it would make it less effective, don't know why, I just feel that way.
Ahh, picking at your skin when you're stressed doesn't sound good; are you stressed often? I get what you mean about the clogged pores thing, it's rather addictive and inviting. And I feel like if I squeeze it out, then I will feel better that that 'seed' is out of my face. Of course most of the time it just leaves my skin red and it always comes back, so I don't know why I just don't stop. I'm trying my hardest to though, and trying to let the Differin do its thing. My face looks better than yesterday, that's for sure, although I did use chemical face mask yesterday before applying it.
I've never tried a good AHA product, I always used either BHA or a good face mask, which always makes it better. I've heard that Paula's Choice BHA products are very good for the blocked pores thing but never tried it, mainly because it's more than I'm willing to spend. Have you tried aloe vera or niacinamide for your hyperpigmentation?
I hate it when products clog my skin up, although I don't think many do. I'm fortunate enough not to properly scar when I have spots; hyperpigmentation's very likely though.
Posted 17 February 2014 - 01:06 PM
I have only scared when the spot was inflammed and i picked it.. left very small indentations that probably wont heal naturally... i.e i'll need to correct them with a dermapen. They aren't deep by any means but non the less they are there.
Just went to the doctor, he has prescribed me the Differin Gel 0.1%. I think this is a good shout as my skin as I say just blocks up something awful with ANY cream i've ever used. He said to apply it in the PM and wash it off after.. do this for a few days or weeks so the skin adjusts and if it becomes red and angry then lay off... seems sensible.
he said his brother had acne and was prescribed accutane and it cleared him right up. 70-80% success rate, said it drys eveything up to a crisp. but can alter the fat in the blood etc, so its a strong substance.. he said it really depends how much its bothering you, i can prescribe it but you should try differin to start with. He said its good stuff.
Yeah its a bad habbit ive had for ages. the scars ive got were from a lot of stress built up and using too greasy products on the skin. But thats life. IT COULD BE WORSE right?
Yeah the only AHA i would say is good is from aquaglycolic... have a read on make up alley. But again, i think it breaks me out for some reason, maybe it brought all the gunk to the surface..
I have also tried BHA and AHA from paulas choice, to be honest, again, I used a regime that had that in there and my skin kept breaking out, red angry spots which is not normal for me tbh unless i've been working out loads or had loads of sex.
My acne is 100% related to hormones.
Yeah all moisturisers i've ever tried have ended up breaking me out. Even pure 100% aloe vera gel (called 'the ultimate aloe vera gel) note they changed the ingredients a while back but i have the product before they changed it.
Ahhh so much i want to say!
so first things first.... get the Differin gel from a pharmacy!
I assume a regime is a must whilst on this stuff right? as in the products i mentioned prior to this post that the harley street doctor suggested.
I am TOTALLY paranoid about using products and a regime ): Id rather burn than use a sunscreen that is more than likely going to clog my pores..
SK what is your routine? AM and PM products etc - where do you live?
thanks so much
Posted 18 February 2014 - 03:10 PM
Heard the gel version is a little more harsh, maybe because there's no/little emollient in it? Either way, sounds good, I like to do it overnight.
Ooh, yeah, I've definitely heard of Accutane, much stronger retinoid. Was intrigued but the list of side effects made me think that it wasn't worth it. For some people the acne has come back after coming off it. I'd say Differin was/is harsh enough for my skin and it's the weakest retinoid! But it's doing a good job; it's just a tad slow. And yeah, life could definitely be a lot worse, hard to think that acne is a very common problem, yet we feel like the only ones suffering while everyone else we see in our day-to-day lives have beautiful skin.
Aaah, good ol' makeup alley... will definitely have a read
So if your acne is 100% related to hormones, then nothing topical will get rid of it completely, so the products you use on your face isn't the only factor. Tried going to a doctor for a blood test?
Ya know, people have actually said that a sun burn (mild, that is) or a tan has made their acne much better/non-existent. If only it was safe to do all the time... luckily for me in the UK, there isn't much sun at all so I don't use proper sunscreen on my face: the moisturiser/foundation I use has SPF in it already anyway. I make sure not to layer products with SPF on my face since I read that it actually cancels each other out or something. Just start slow with the routine, don't worry
My routine, I actually don't have much of one; I just use whatever products I feel like using that day/night, but here's an overview:
- Wash face with warm water to get any Differin residue off my face from overnight. No cleanser or anything.
- Apply a serum (seeing as I can't do it overnight with the Differin): either my Olay Regenerist 3-point super serum with niacinamide or my Along Came Betty Clearly Perfect Skin Tone Correcter with red kelp extract. Normally I leave it at that and just apply my makeup afterwards. If my face is feeling particularly worse for wear...
- ...Apply a moisturiser: either my Clean and Clear Dual Action Moisturiser which is oil-free and has salicylic acid or my Along Came Betty Radiance Moisturiser which is more hydrating.
- If I'm not going anywhere that day then before my serum and moisturiser, I use a face mask and leave it on for 15-30 minutes. Either my Neutrogena 2-in-1 face wash and mask with salicylic acid, kaolin and bentonite or an egg white face mask which is absolutely amazing and has pulled stuff out of my pores on more than one occasion. Not to mention cheap as chips. If at all.
PM (this is where it gets serious)
In the shower:
- Wash all makeup off.
- Use my cleanser, which is the Nivea Daily Essentials Refreshing Facial Wash Gel.
- OPTIONAL: get gunk out of my pores using a mix of castor oil and jojoba oil and massage (you feel and see black bits coming out of your pores, it's really cool). Oil-cleansing method can break you out though, if you don't get all the oil off properly.
- Use a microdermabrasion scrub to get all the dead skin and other questionable gunk off my face: either the Botanics Radiant Youth Microdermabrasion Polish , The Body Shop Vitamin C Microdermabrasion Scrub or Soap and Glory Scrubatomic/Scrub Your Nose In It. I make sure my face is nice, warm and supple from the steam/hot water first. I don't do this everyday.
- Another face mask using either the Neutrogena one as above, Along Came Betty Pure Pores Detox Face Mask, Soap and Glory Fab Pore Mask, the Quick Fix Facials Anti-Blemish Mask or I smear active 10+ manuka honey all over my face and leave it to sit.
- Wash off with warm/hot water and pat dry.
Out of the shower:
- I leave my face for at least 10-15 minutes before applying Differin because it lessens the negative effects.
- Go to sleep!
Seems like a lot but I pick and choose every day. I'm quite harsh on my skin but that's because my skin can take it
Posted 18 February 2014 - 03:53 PM
Hmm i can see why you would say that about the Gel, however my doctor said its the same ingredient its just the consistency that (pardon the pun) 'differs' lol. He said that girls tend to get on with the cream more than the gel and guys get on with gel... maybe to do with make up or something.
Yeah Accutane has got serious side effects, but at what point do you give up and just want to live your life with 'normal' skin..
Well, yes i believe* its hormone related it all stacks up. So yeah i wonder how it will be cleared up :/ what would I get the blood test for? not a bad idea to be honest with you. I guess they would check hormone levels. Why haven't i done this before!
Ah (the UK) see what you did there haha, only reason I ask is because I am from the UK too and so your'll know similar product brands/shops etc and of course if you wanted to chat further externally to here, that would be possible.
Yeah my friends use sun tan beds.. which i know are very bad for you, but then they have tanned skin no spots.. i am white with spots.. i think i know who is winning.
I have tried countless moisturises as i say and honestly every...single... one.... will break me out, just give it a week or so and BOOM. Clog city b*tch
thanks for posting your routine, that does seem quite harsh, my skin wouldn't tolerate the scrubbing etc
Edited by .JacktheLad., 18 February 2014 - 03:53 PM.
Posted 18 February 2014 - 04:54 PM
Yeah, I think guy's skin is tougher and gels just seem to be more drying than creams so I think that's why. And I guess if Differin isn't doing it for you then try Accutane, just be careful with it though. My friend actually had serious inflamed acne, she went on a course of antibiotics and her skin looks amazing now so I guess you could also try antibiotics, however if your acne is hormonal as you think, then anti-biotics wouldn't do anything.
Get a blood test done and then they can prescribe you pills if your hormone levels are unbalanced, it causes more problems than you think tbh
Obviously a good diet helps too, been drinking a shit load of water and (trying to) eat healthily, however bad food just tastes too good. I used to be scared that I had become lactose intolerant or something and that was causing my clogged pores, but didn't really want to cut out cheese and other dairy because it just tasted too good. Ahh, no self-discipline whatsoever. What a way to live ey
Yess, I was also hoping you were from the UK too: I know a lot about different products: Boots is like my second home. Also hopefully going to the Uni of Manchester this year to do chemistry so that I can become a cosmetic chemist and make products to rid the world of acne once and for all (big dreams are the best ones hahah). And yeah, we can share this stupid acne experience together if you want hahaa
Every single moisturiser? No, we *will* find you one that doesn't! Maybe it's just one ingredient that clogs you up... everybody needs a good one, especially now you're on Differin
By the way, have you put it on your face yet? If so, how was it?
Posted 19 February 2014 - 02:21 PM
Hmm I don't know if its tougher, i think thats a misconception? Yes this is what has stopped me taking the antibiotics to be honest.
I'll enquire about the blood test for sure, I do wonder if they are imbalanced or not :/ my diet has been clean for 4 years now, no sugar, no dairy, no cheese cream sweets etc you name it!
thats interesting you mention the lactose thing, i swear i am intolerant to milk and cheese (dairy) however i think its the milk proteins not the fat of which i cant tolerate. I spoke to the doctor about this and he said yes people are either sensitive to the milk proteins or the more common one 'lactose'.
do you think it clogs pores?
Yep uk here !! (-: Thats really kool, have you applied and got in? unfortunately i doubt that would happen mainly because acne is caused by so many factors, its just part of life i suppose, almost like trying to cure death. How old are you? I went to pick up the gel today as the pharmacy in tesco told me to come back today as yesterday it wasnt in stock... so anyway, went in today and she goes 'oh.. erm there is a problem' comes back and tells me the computer didnt order it... so she had to call somewhere and get it sent... BRILLIANT.
so told to go back tomorrow. if they don't have it tomorrow i'm going to kick the f off.
Funnily enough i re-read the cave man regime... whereby you do nothing and let your face heal.. got to say its working well for me lol!! my face has crusted over (lush) and its healing. the is going down Rapidly.
Yeah i don't mind sharing what ever- i read the other differin log kicking around here and about 5 or so were doing it, got good results only one saw worse results.
part of me wants to start a regime the other side wants my body to sort itself.. its only mild acne i suffer with, i question is it worth warranting all this palaarver ?! the doctor told me that differin would make it dry and flake but will make the skin nice. and she said it would help to remove those really small indents i caused aka scarring. if this is the case then I'd like to give it a go, i'm super scared it will break my skin out make it worse...
I am hoping that moisturiser she recommended will work *if i order all those products. I cannot express how i am so SO SO done with buying this that and the other. I feel like my box has more products than boots at x mass
Edited by .JacktheLad., 19 February 2014 - 02:22 PM.
Posted 19 February 2014 - 02:54 PM
It probably is to be fair, I don't know, it would just make sense if guy's skin was tougher.
And whatt?! What do you eat then? That's literally my whole diet hahaa, apart from the sweets, don't really have much of those. I think you can also get a test done at the doctor's to determine whether you're lactose intolerant or intolerant to something else. Probably doesn't clog the pores; I think that's more of a hormonal thing. I know it can cause redness, eczema and rashes?
Yeah, I applied, had an interview, got an offer, just need to get the bloody grades now (AAA). I'm 18, by the way
I guess I wouldn't be able to cure it... maybe stick to makeup and skincare ey
Would be so cool if I could though.
That's so frustrating! I swear when you need something, it's never there. Maybe you just weren't destined for Differin hahah
Caveman regimen? I... have never heard of that before but good to hear it's working for you! I don't think I'd ever be able to not use products on my face: I just feel like I manually need to scrub it or moisturise it or clean it because it just makes me feel better.
What do you wanna share? And yeah, I've read The Differin Diaries and it's just great to hear how everyone got on with it.
I'm still hoping for nice skin, I've got much less bumpiness but there's still a bit of hyperpigmentation. It will make your skin break out but that's a 'purging' period, if it keeps breaking out after a long time then that's bad I think. Your breakouts should heal quicker though, so that's a plus. Give it a try; it's worked for most people
And I feel exactly the same way! I've bought loads of scrubs and treatments to try and make the bumps go away but none of them ever worked; it's just money wasted isn't it? Luckily we don't have to pay for the Differin, like a lot of people in the US do: heard it's actually quite expensive. And nice comparison, so much choice!
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