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#21 Michelle Reece

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 08:32 PM

"Maintenance" courses are actually quite rare, since most people don't need to go beyond 2-3 courses anyway--I mean, if your acne returns and can't be managed with topicals, they'll put you on another course, sure. That's how it usually goes.

 

I've heard of those with extremely oily skin go through (intermittent) low-dose courses, as well as some very severe acne-like conditions. Like I said before, the (intermittent) low-dose maintenance courses are being studied right now with patients having anywhere from mild to severe acne.

 

Like this one: http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/17710426 <--this one has full text available, if you want to read it.

 

It requires more study, of course, but it looks really promising!

 

Edit: Yay for your scar improvement! :D


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Posted 15 February 2014 - 08:48 PM

Michelle, 

I will definitely have to check out that article when I have more time. I'm supposed to be concentrating on some algebra homework right now. No fun. Thanks so much, girl! smile.png

Also, Ashley James (guy from the YouTube vid I posted) responded to my question about moisturizing while on Accutane. He was really prompt at getting back to me, which is awesome;

"Hey! Wow good for you, glad you're on your way to clear skin. Vaseline is amazing for dry skin while on accutane! I'd stick to what your deem told you to do. You're going to love the results smile.png"
 


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Posted 15 February 2014 - 09:00 PM

Hey, any time! :D

 

Aquaphor is pretty awesome, too! It has glycerin! grinwink.gif

 

Okay, I'll stop distracting you, now. razz.gif



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Posted 15 February 2014 - 09:34 PM

Michelle,

It's okay. I'm too easily distracted. :)

My derm discouraged me from using Aquaphor because it can cause comedones (aka, blackheads).



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Posted 15 February 2014 - 09:47 PM

Is it because of the mineral oil?



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Posted 16 February 2014 - 01:45 PM

Michelle, 

I'm not really sure if it's because of the mineral oil or not. That seems likely, though.



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Posted 16 February 2014 - 03:04 PM

Mineral oil being comedogenic is a myth, fortunately.

 

Behold, the free paper!

 

http://onlinelibrary...12.00752.x/full

 

Here's the paragraph:

 

"‘Acne cosmetica’ was coined in the early 1970s to describe the association between cosmetic use and acne breakouts. A variety of oils, including mineral oil, at the time were thought to be inducing this effect by blocking pores. Animal models were quickly developed. Fulton [36] described the comedogenicity of an extensive list of commonly used ingredients in skincare products of which mineral oil was reported to be mildly comedogenic but nowhere near as much as other ingredients. Conflicting results were found by Mills and Kligman [37] in their rabbit and human models, in which mineral oil was reported not to be comedogenic. The American Academy of Dermatology proposed guidelines to try to interpret the differences in the animal to human data, and they concluded that 1–2 comedones in animal testing would be unlikely to be an indicator of comedogenicity in humans [38]. This is precisely the comedogenic activity of 100% mineral oil reported in five studies, that is, zero. Furthermore, DiNardo tested in humans the formulations containing mineral oil up to 30% and found that there was no comedogenicity potential of mineral oil [39]. A wide series of products were tested that showed a comedogenic activity in the same range as the negative control. The overall conclusion is that mineral oil is not comedogenic. But this article also reveals that there is a difference between animal models and human models: the rabbit model is much more prone to comedogenicity than the human model, but all the earlier data that condemned mineral oil originate from animal models, a situation scientists even say will be difficult to correct [39]."



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Posted 16 February 2014 - 08:39 PM

Michelle,

Nice! Thanks so much. If mineral oil isn't comedogenic, then I have no idea why my derm discouraged me from using Aquaphor. Sure enough, it did make me get a few blackheads. I started using Aquaphor first before my former derm had me switch to Vaseline.



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Posted 16 February 2014 - 08:56 PM

It was true in the 70s, but mineral oil was crude back then. It's much more refined now.

 

It's like that pervasive myth that topically applied alcohol (ethanol) is pro-aging!


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Posted 16 February 2014 - 09:35 PM

Cherrysoda08 - Aquaphor contains some clogging ingredients. It's not just pure mineral oil. Vaseline would be a better option or something like Elta MD Intense.



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Posted 16 February 2014 - 11:12 PM

What else would be possibly comedogenic in Aquaphor? Lanolin alcohol? This ingredient is typically used <3%. I haven't seen any data regarding it's acne-producing effects in people.



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Posted 17 February 2014 - 11:05 AM

Michelle, 

I'm not really sure, but I personally can attest to getting new blackheads while using Aquaphor to moisturize while at home when I first started Accutane. I thought that the blackheads were just the price I'd have to pay in order to have enough moisture on my face until my derm recommended Vaseline instead. 



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Posted 17 February 2014 - 11:45 AM

Yeah, lanolin alcohol can be clogging.



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Posted 17 February 2014 - 01:59 PM

Well, I'll look up lanolin alcohol some more. It's probably time to go on the 15th page of Google Scholar. eusa_think.gif

 

Just to let anyone else know, if anyone finds Vaseline too greasy, Theraplex HydroLotion is a good option. I'll try to find more HydroLotion "dupes". No luck so far.



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Posted 22 February 2014 - 07:45 PM

Week 15 Update-


Dosage: 60 mg (30 mg/2 x daily)

This is going to be a short update for this week, since not much has changed in terms of my physical and emotional/mental symptoms. I am continuing to experience increased anxiety, especially at this time because I'm taking one of my toughest classes (college algebra). It seems like the stress involved in doing my homework, and taking quizzes and tests does not pair well with the Accutane.

Also, I've got a lovely constellation of new cysts on my right cheek. There are about 4 in total. Two days ago, 2 of those cysts had very obvious heads full of white gunk, sitting there for all the world to see. It was really embarrassing, and thankfully they dried up while I slept during the night. I was dreading the idea of going to the clinic I volunteer at with huge whiteheads on my face. I absolutely cannot wait to start taking the 80 mg per day dosage my P.A. is going to prescribe to me next month. Hopefully, it will clear those cysts up for good.

Finally, I just want to vent for a second about how much I hate that Accutane can be so physically hard on the body. Today, I straightened up clothes in my closet and my drawers, which only took a couple of hours. Now, my lower back is killing me and I am having to walk slightly hunched over as a result. Even though I took a few Advil, I am still sore from doing relatively light tasks. Hate this. I'll be so happy when I no longer have to take this medication.

Thanks so much for reading. More pictures coming next week. 


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Posted 25 February 2014 - 06:57 PM

Just wondering if anyone has had success with a supplement to help ease joint pain while on an Accutane course. I was trying a fish oil supplement for a couple of weeks, and it did nothing. I've been using glucosamine and chondroitin for about 3 days, and it's obviously too early to tell if this is going to help me out.

Does anyone have experience with a joint supplement that they'd be willing to share? 

Thanks. :)



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 02:49 PM

Hi.. Just thought I would check in to see how you are doing!!  I STILL have 2 cysts, seriously they will not die. Otherwise , skin looks clear. My derm is not concerned, he says they will resolve and It wouldn't be unusual to get a few more yet.  I asked about taking more than 10mg a day but he seems to think I need to be on it long term so low dose is better for me.. I don't know, I sometimes think I would rather hammer it for 6 mths rather than drag it out..I think because I am perimenopausal (Oh the shame!) my doc does not want to go the traditional way.Strangely the hyperpigmentation is starting to fade so I think your derm could be right! I also have a glow to my skin which is nice! I have got no aching or tiredness but it would be surprising if I did on such a low dose. I hope yours resolves too and don't worry about the cysts.. they will go!! Its the acne's last stand before you get clear! 

 My mum was saying that she has never known so many adult women suffering from acne and that it seemed so much rarer 20-30 years ago, she remembers plenty of teenagers but hardly any adults suffering. This sort of backs up what I have been reading, that there is an adult acne epidemic. Makes you wonder why? Stress maybe affecting hormones?? God knows.. I know the bloody acne is stressful!! :) Maybe we use too many products on our skin, when previous generations didn't? 

  Anyway Cherry soda you aren't on your own.. your UK counterpart is here, sympathizing and encouraging you.. and popping the bloody pills alongside ya..!!  xx



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 12:50 AM

Just wondering if anyone has had success with a supplement to help ease joint pain while on an Accutane course. I was trying a fish oil supplement for a couple of weeks, and it did nothing. I've been using glucosamine and chondroitin for about 3 days, and it's obviously too early to tell if this is going to help me out.

Does anyone have experience with a joint supplement that they'd be willing to share? 

Thanks. smile.png

 

I'm not sure how effective fish oil is for joint pain, but from what I can gather, it takes more than 10 grams daily to have any effect.

 

Glucosamine and chondrotin isn't really better than the placebo for joint pain, particularly related to osteoarthritis: http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/24395557



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Posted 01 March 2014 - 12:55 PM

Oh man. Any recommendations for joint pain, Michelle?



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Posted 01 March 2014 - 05:07 PM

Oh man. Any recommendations for joint pain, Michelle?

 

-Gentle stretching

-Heat/cold packs

-Massage ;)

-Rest and relaxation

-Gentle exercise

-Sleeping on the back

-You might want to replace your bed if it's bad. You could get away with pillows under the knees.



Hi.. Just thought I would check in to see how you are doing!!  I STILL have 2 cysts, seriously they will not die. Otherwise , skin looks clear. My derm is not concerned, he says they will resolve and It wouldn't be unusual to get a few more yet.  I asked about taking more than 10mg a day but he seems to think I need to be on it long term so low dose is better for me.. I don't know, I sometimes think I would rather hammer it for 6 mths rather than drag it out..I think because I am perimenopausal (Oh the shame!) my doc does not want to go the traditional way.Strangely the hyperpigmentation is starting to fade so I think your derm could be right! I also have a glow to my skin which is nice! I have got no aching or tiredness but it would be surprising if I did on such a low dose. I hope yours resolves too and don't worry about the cysts.. they will go!! Its the acne's last stand before you get clear! 

 My mum was saying that she has never known so many adult women suffering from acne and that it seemed so much rarer 20-30 years ago, she remembers plenty of teenagers but hardly any adults suffering. This sort of backs up what I have been reading, that there is an adult acne epidemic. Makes you wonder why? Stress maybe affecting hormones?? God knows.. I know the bloody acne is stressful!! Maybe we use too many products on our skin, when previous generations didn't? 

  Anyway Cherry soda you aren't on your own.. your UK counterpart is here, sympathizing and encouraging you.. and popping the bloody pills alongside ya..!!  xx

 

Watch out for pimples around the eyes! Considering your age, you could start seeing something called solar comedones around the eyes. They're technically not blackheads, and they tend to be big. Roaccutane can reduce them, but only if you wear sunscreen!






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