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Diet/Lifestyle has 100 percent effect on acne

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In addition, I am convinced too that vitamin supplements are totally unnecessary if you're eating a balanced diet and have no special problems.

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A well balanced diet wil give you all the nutrients. If you're talking about megadosing on like 50mg of zinc or 8g of B5 then no, diet won't give you this but it most certainly will give you the RDA. If the study is true that high fiber causes less absorbtion, than just eat something high in the mineral like pumpkin seeds(zinc).

Anyway, read up on modern practices of farming and then you'll have a different opinion about your soil fact.

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Genetics are reason some of us have acne while others do not. I don't even need a study to verify that fact. People with great healthy diets and lifestyle still get acne, while there are folks who live on smokes, beer and chips who have fabulous skin.Now they may die at forty of a heart attack. There is a girl who works for me, and I'm not joking...She smokes at pack a day. She lives on cheeseburgers and MGD. She not only has beautiful skin, she's thin too. The vegan on my staff has bad skin and exercises daily while still having a weight problem. Genes suck or they can be your saving grace.

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Genetics are reason some of us have acne while others do not. I don't even need a study to verify that fact. People with great healthy diets and lifestyle still get acne, while there are folks who live on smokes, beer and chips who have fabulous skin.Now they

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As children we dont particularly have healthy diets, I eat much healthier now than when I was about 10 but even then I ate healthier than most and I didnt have any acne then. Diet really isnt the problem. I know people who are on hard illicit drugs and just eat junk food all the time and they have perfect skin. I eat quite healthily though and I get acne. Diet does not affect acne in my opinion and I think its just another case of people getting desperate and paranoid about their condition. I know how hard it is to explain to yourself why you have acne, I remember at one of my lowest points I got convinced I was getting acne because I'd dropped my face flannel on the floor.


When I'm clear, I'm on top of the world. When I have acne, I'm lost.


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That's awesome (how you think diet/lifestyle has 100 percent effect on acne). Want to share or was it just a way to make it known without any reasoning? Thanks.

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I agree that genetics plays a large role in acne(although when I did have acne I was basically the only one in my family, albiet mild acne but still no one else had it as a teen, young adult, adult).

ben100604: You didn't have acnn as a 10yo because you didn't even have the developed glands to produce sebum.

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Aye, you guys are so funny. Unless you've started puberty you don't have enough hormones to have acne at that age. Now, you could have developed a MAJOR hormonal imbalance (CAH) that early, in which case your doctors & parents should've known about it before you were born.

Me for example, I started puberty at age 8, started breaking out only on the forehead at age 10, and then body acne and cysts and an increase in (unwanted) body hair at age 11. Of course the fun didn't stop there and still hasn't, but despite having Hyperandrogenism from being Hyperinsulinemic, the right dietary changes worked for me.

As for the whole genetic thing, yeah that's why our bodies chose to express acne in order to make us aware that there is something wrong or imbalanced in our systems. My parents & brother still get acne. Mom used to have facial & body acne like me (doubt it was as bad), and will breakout a wee bit from chocolate CANDY. My father still breaks out a bit in his beard and upper back area (still eats peantus & gluten) and Type II Diabetes runs on his side of the family. My brother, haven't seen him in a few years so I can't be certain but I do remember the last time he still had a bit of acne.

Anyway, I guess my point is that it doesn't matter if your acne is "genetic", if you find that you are still sufferring 5, 10, 20 or more years from now, perhaps you may want to think about altering more of your Environmental Factors (skincare, toxns, diet, supplements, medication etc).


These are not steps, but stages some people progress through when going from conventional to holistic medicine. Stage 2 is how I became 99%+ Clear, eliminated my dysmennorhea, significantly reduced my sebum & pore size, etc & is my predominant method.

Stage 1 (Treatment):

* (Daily) Isocare Skin Control Cleanser, Dream Products Customized Natural Face Lotion & Coppertone Sport Spray Sunscreen (mixed)

* (Sporadically) spot treat w/ anti-inflammatory (neosporin, hydrocortisone, salicylic acid) or a skin lightener (post-inflammatory pigmentation) to treat stubborn cystic/nodular acne that appears due to unknowingly or knowingly ingesting a food/ingredient that breaks me out (I do my best to avoid these foods). If you cover treated area w/ a bandaid, it makes product more effective.

Stage 2 (Prevention): "cheapest" method ~ Since Aug. 2002

* Follow a Gluten-Free, Trans-Fat Free, Dairy-Free and No Added Sugar diet for my Insulin Resistance/Hyperandrogenism (Silent Chronic Inflammatory Syndrome)

* Avoid ALL types of nuts and the Genus Prunus (almonds, plums, peaches, nectarines, apricots, cherries), Bananas, Pineapples, Cottonseed oil, Artificial Sweetners.

Stage 3 (Correction):

* Strengthen/Repair GI - Immune health

Research:

* Developing functional foods for those with acne & other special needs (assuming there's a defficiency).

* Developing good & "safe" formulas for various hormonal issues for women. Correction stage may resolve this for some.


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SJ,

You know I totally respect your dedication to holistic living and science.But, I have done the diets, the pills, the vitamins too.All I'm saying is that genetics play a really big role. So MB's assertion that diet=oily skin is bunk.I do live a healthy lifestyle, but I would hate someone to think that if they just found the right diet all their problems would be solved.And to the person who asked about siblings without acne,check out acnebook.com. Dr. Fulton, the most influential acne researcher of our time, has a much analysis of the genetic data than I can duplicate here.

PS. Why do the refs never call penalties on the Vikings??? eusa_sick.gif I just watched them spear and no call as usual. Enjoy your Sunday wink.gif

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Genetics is a big part but you gotta realize genes are like throwing dice. You can have siblings without a single zit but it's not that simple. Just like some people think left handedness is a gene -- I have two right handed parents but am left handed. Seems simple? A grandparent of my mom and one from my dad was left handed and so I had a weird generational skip.

And SJ -- bodies don't "choose to show an imbalance as acne." We are not the zen-magnets that new age hippies want us to think.

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Genetics is a big part but you gotta realize genes are like throwing dice. You can have siblings without a single zit but it's not that simple. Just like some people think left handedness is a gene -- I have two right handed parents but am left handed. Seems simple? A grandparent of my mom and one from my dad was left handed and so I had a weird generational skip.

And SJ -- bodies don't "choose to show an imbalance as acne." We are not the zen-magnets that new age hippies want us to think.


These are not steps, but stages some people progress through when going from conventional to holistic medicine. Stage 2 is how I became 99%+ Clear, eliminated my dysmennorhea, significantly reduced my sebum & pore size, etc & is my predominant method.

Stage 1 (Treatment):

* (Daily) Isocare Skin Control Cleanser, Dream Products Customized Natural Face Lotion & Coppertone Sport Spray Sunscreen (mixed)

* (Sporadically) spot treat w/ anti-inflammatory (neosporin, hydrocortisone, salicylic acid) or a skin lightener (post-inflammatory pigmentation) to treat stubborn cystic/nodular acne that appears due to unknowingly or knowingly ingesting a food/ingredient that breaks me out (I do my best to avoid these foods). If you cover treated area w/ a bandaid, it makes product more effective.

Stage 2 (Prevention): "cheapest" method ~ Since Aug. 2002

* Follow a Gluten-Free, Trans-Fat Free, Dairy-Free and No Added Sugar diet for my Insulin Resistance/Hyperandrogenism (Silent Chronic Inflammatory Syndrome)

* Avoid ALL types of nuts and the Genus Prunus (almonds, plums, peaches, nectarines, apricots, cherries), Bananas, Pineapples, Cottonseed oil, Artificial Sweetners.

Stage 3 (Correction):

* Strengthen/Repair GI - Immune health

Research:

* Developing functional foods for those with acne & other special needs (assuming there's a defficiency).

* Developing good & "safe" formulas for various hormonal issues for women. Correction stage may resolve this for some.


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Sorry I worded it wrong. Children don'thave the developed glands to produce enough sebum that matters. It doesn't really kick in until puberty starts and hair starts growing, and up to that point the amount doesn't really make a difference. I believe one of the benefits of accutane is that it shrinks the glands to produce as much oil as the person did pre-puberty. However isn't too little oil a bad thign int he long run? Isn't it the sebum that helps keep our skin looking young (I said helps, I know water, collagen, etc... all play a role)?

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I think diet definitely has something to do with it for people who are susceptible to acne...but I don't know if its the perfect cure. For the last 7 years I've had acne ONLY on two small areas of my cheeks. Cutting out sugar helps a lot, but accutane has finally got me clear!

My skin has always been great except for these small areas on my cheeks...it makes me think there's something weird going on with my cell turnover in those regions.

But who really knows.

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Acne = 100% diet influenced

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I run 6-7 miles a day. My parents are vegetarians and thus I always have meals filled with vegetables, fruits, and whole grain foods. They believe in only eatting organic food, and thus almost everything we buy is organic. I almost never eat meat. My brother is allergic to dairy and thus I have grown to like soy milk and usually prefer it over organic milk. I still had acne until I went on accutane.


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I eat meat, but not very often. I would like to correct that. My mom and dad are vegetarians, but still eat fish. i don't really consider fish meat (even though it is).


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SJ,

You know I totally respect your dedication to holistic living and science.But, I have done the diets, the pills, the vitamins too.All I'm saying is that genetics play a really big role. So MB's assertion that diet=oily skin is bunk.I do live a healthy lifestyle, but I would hate someone to think that if they just found the right diet all their problems would be solved.And to the person who asked about siblings without acne.Check out acnebook.com. Dr. Fulton, the most influential acne researcher of our time, has a much analysis of the genetic data than I can duplicate here.

PS. Why do the refs never call penalties on the Vikings??? eusa_sick.gif  I just watched them spear and no call as usual. Enjoy your Sunday wink.gif


These are not steps, but stages some people progress through when going from conventional to holistic medicine. Stage 2 is how I became 99%+ Clear, eliminated my dysmennorhea, significantly reduced my sebum & pore size, etc & is my predominant method.

Stage 1 (Treatment):

* (Daily) Isocare Skin Control Cleanser, Dream Products Customized Natural Face Lotion & Coppertone Sport Spray Sunscreen (mixed)

* (Sporadically) spot treat w/ anti-inflammatory (neosporin, hydrocortisone, salicylic acid) or a skin lightener (post-inflammatory pigmentation) to treat stubborn cystic/nodular acne that appears due to unknowingly or knowingly ingesting a food/ingredient that breaks me out (I do my best to avoid these foods). If you cover treated area w/ a bandaid, it makes product more effective.

Stage 2 (Prevention): "cheapest" method ~ Since Aug. 2002

* Follow a Gluten-Free, Trans-Fat Free, Dairy-Free and No Added Sugar diet for my Insulin Resistance/Hyperandrogenism (Silent Chronic Inflammatory Syndrome)

* Avoid ALL types of nuts and the Genus Prunus (almonds, plums, peaches, nectarines, apricots, cherries), Bananas, Pineapples, Cottonseed oil, Artificial Sweetners.

Stage 3 (Correction):

* Strengthen/Repair GI - Immune health

Research:

* Developing functional foods for those with acne & other special needs (assuming there's a defficiency).

* Developing good & "safe" formulas for various hormonal issues for women. Correction stage may resolve this for some.


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These are not steps, but stages some people progress through when going from conventional to holistic medicine. Stage 2 is how I became 99%+ Clear, eliminated my dysmennorhea, significantly reduced my sebum & pore size, etc & is my predominant method.

Stage 1 (Treatment):

* (Daily) Isocare Skin Control Cleanser, Dream Products Customized Natural Face Lotion & Coppertone Sport Spray Sunscreen (mixed)

* (Sporadically) spot treat w/ anti-inflammatory (neosporin, hydrocortisone, salicylic acid) or a skin lightener (post-inflammatory pigmentation) to treat stubborn cystic/nodular acne that appears due to unknowingly or knowingly ingesting a food/ingredient that breaks me out (I do my best to avoid these foods). If you cover treated area w/ a bandaid, it makes product more effective.

Stage 2 (Prevention): "cheapest" method ~ Since Aug. 2002

* Follow a Gluten-Free, Trans-Fat Free, Dairy-Free and No Added Sugar diet for my Insulin Resistance/Hyperandrogenism (Silent Chronic Inflammatory Syndrome)

* Avoid ALL types of nuts and the Genus Prunus (almonds, plums, peaches, nectarines, apricots, cherries), Bananas, Pineapples, Cottonseed oil, Artificial Sweetners.

Stage 3 (Correction):

* Strengthen/Repair GI - Immune health

Research:

* Developing functional foods for those with acne & other special needs (assuming there's a defficiency).

* Developing good & "safe" formulas for various hormonal issues for women. Correction stage may resolve this for some.


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These are not steps, but stages some people progress through when going from conventional to holistic medicine. Stage 2 is how I became 99%+ Clear, eliminated my dysmennorhea, significantly reduced my sebum & pore size, etc & is my predominant method.

Stage 1 (Treatment):

* (Daily) Isocare Skin Control Cleanser, Dream Products Customized Natural Face Lotion & Coppertone Sport Spray Sunscreen (mixed)

* (Sporadically) spot treat w/ anti-inflammatory (neosporin, hydrocortisone, salicylic acid) or a skin lightener (post-inflammatory pigmentation) to treat stubborn cystic/nodular acne that appears due to unknowingly or knowingly ingesting a food/ingredient that breaks me out (I do my best to avoid these foods). If you cover treated area w/ a bandaid, it makes product more effective.

Stage 2 (Prevention): "cheapest" method ~ Since Aug. 2002

* Follow a Gluten-Free, Trans-Fat Free, Dairy-Free and No Added Sugar diet for my Insulin Resistance/Hyperandrogenism (Silent Chronic Inflammatory Syndrome)

* Avoid ALL types of nuts and the Genus Prunus (almonds, plums, peaches, nectarines, apricots, cherries), Bananas, Pineapples, Cottonseed oil, Artificial Sweetners.

Stage 3 (Correction):

* Strengthen/Repair GI - Immune health

Research:

* Developing functional foods for those with acne & other special needs (assuming there's a defficiency).

* Developing good & "safe" formulas for various hormonal issues for women. Correction stage may resolve this for some.


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The reason why people act so ignorant on the acne food matter is simply because they can not handle the fact that in the end, a drastic change must be done in order to clear up completely.They'd rather spend money on moisturizers, cleansers, soaps instead of actually going to the health food store for some organic veggies, fruits or even supplements. So instead of pitying yourself, go on a DIET FOR A FEW WEEKS AND LEAVE OUT ALL TOPICALS and come back with your results. Sorry, I'm just a bit frustrated about how stupid people can be. Just because your doctor or your derm says CHOCOLATE DOES NOT CAUSE ACNE DOES NOT MEAN HE'S RIGHT.Do your own research or even ask SJ for help and you'll discover so many new things, overwhelming at first but pieces by pieces you'll come to realize what a fool you been for not believing any acne food related messages.


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Without a long treatise, I have had tests and tests between 1998 and 2001. My hormones are right as rain.During my three year medical saga where I nearly died twice, I had so much misinformation from well meaning friends, coworkers, and family.I will take a doctor over self diagnosis any day. If I would have tried to heal my medical problems through diets and not surgery and medicines I would not be here to debate with all of you.With acne, do what works,and for some diet isn't going to get the results while other methods can. For me, topical mandelic acid is the key, and I'm looking great.

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