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Diet Is The Cure For Acne.....rofl

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Diet has a massive role in acne, your very silly if you don't think so...

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Come on man, it's useless to argue with Quetzlcoatl, he's whole thinking is flawed. He is saying that every thing in nature has a meaning, what about cancer? What's the meaning in cancer, why some people get cancer? Why my friend who was 12 died from lung cancer and he was the most athletic person in my school by far, never got the chance to even try alcohol or cigarettes, perfect mate for every female.

You're so far from the truth that it isn't even funny anymore.

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This is the other thing I hate about the diet section of this forum: people don't know how to READ in this section! I already said that what works for me is accutane, BP and AHA. Now I just use BP face wash every night, let it stay on my skin 2-3 minutes and wash off and I'm 100% clear.

I did what you suggested last summer and oh boy I was fucked! I had so bad acne, it was a fucking nightmare.

I see that alternativista has ran back to the troll forest when her theories got proven wrong.

You seem to be suggesting that the incidence of acne has remained stable over that last few thousand years. If it was purely genetic and there was no interaction with environment, this would be the observation. This is not the case, so you're wrong. You can question which specific environmental interaction is a trigger of acne. This is still a subject of a lot of research, and there is probably no one answer.

Acne is a display that something is wrong within your body. Think about smallpox; red dots on your skin warn others to stay away; your immune system creates them to decrease the likelihood of spreading whatever it is you have. There are many diseases that result in similar rashes or dots and for the same reason, and in each case the dots are not a manifestation of the disease, but rather a manifestation of your immune response. With acne, your body is warning others to stay away, because something is wrong.

Now let's take an evolutionary perspective. Would this trait of warning others to stay away during our most crucial social years be evolutionary beneficial for everyone to have? No, of course it wouldn't be. The moment someone comes along who does not suffer from acne in a population where all of the individuals innately have acne, their genes would be selected for. They would get more mates. They would have more social bonds and a bigger social network. They would have more resources, and more people to watch their back. The acne gene would disappear very quickly - unless it was meant to keep others away for a good reason (one that increases net fitness), and was triggered only in certain circumstances.

And so by evolutionary logic, you're also wrong. Of course, could have just pointed out that hunter-gatherers do not suffer from acne, teenage or otherwise, but now you see some of the logic behind that observation.

In short, it seems incredibly shortsighted of you to suggest that acne is purely genetic and has no environmental triggers or interactions. More importantly, though, I think it's best to remember that nobody has a cure for everyone; doctors have cures for some, and diet has cures for others. Once we find the cause of acne (which we have yet to do, after all these years), we'll be better able to determine just what exactly is going on.

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Yes and No to the OP. I am 33 and do avoid gluten, soy and most dairy consistently for over over 2 years now. I am definitely not 100% clear. But my skin is better with it. I am also "lucky" enough to have to constantly use B.P. in addition to the diet. lol And accutane and other drugs did not help me. At this point I wish I was one of those people that was 100% clear from diet and/or drugs to be honest. But now its sort of manageable with about 80% clear. I will take that I guess. lol

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You make a fundamental human error of projecting your own experiences onto other people. Everyone is different and reacts to different things.

I have tried eating just vegetables and extra virgin olive oil for many months, no effect in anything. I started to get acne when I was 13, now I'm 30, and my acne has always been inflammatory acne.

If you've had acne for so long and nothing works, I would suggest you stop doing everything. I assume you still have a skin care regime and avoid certain foods. Stop everything completely and try to forget about your skin for a few months. Just wash it once or twice a day with lukewarm water for 20 seconds. Don't avoid any foods, but don't eat unhealthily either. Stop all supplements and tablets you take as well. I'd also recommend getting all your vitamin levels tested, especially Vitamin A, D, E and Zinc.

Good luck.

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All acne is a hormonal by-product and does not have several alternate causes; what get's the ball rolling is hormones which is why it usually appears first at puberty. Twin studies have proven that largely 80% of acne is genetic and only a measly 20% of a persons acne is influenced by environmental factors. Neither does having acne signify something is seriously wrong with your body.

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This is the other thing I hate about the diet section of this forum: people don't know how to READ in this section! I already said that what works for me is accutane, BP and AHA. Now I just use BP face wash every night, let it stay on my skin 2-3 minutes and wash off and I'm 100% clear.

I did what you suggested last summer and oh boy I was fucked! I had so bad acne, it was a fucking nightmare.

I see that alternativista has ran back to the troll forest when her theories got proven wrong.

You seem to be suggesting that the incidence of acne has remained stable over that last few thousand years. If it was purely genetic and there was no interaction with environment, this would be the observation. This is not the case, so you're wrong. You can question which specific environmental interaction is a trigger of acne. This is still a subject of a lot of research, and there is probably no one answer.

Acne is a display that something is wrong within your body. Think about smallpox; red dots on your skin warn others to stay away; your immune system creates them to decrease the likelihood of spreading whatever it is you have. There are many diseases that result in similar rashes or dots and for the same reason, and in each case the dots are not a manifestation of the disease, but rather a manifestation of your immune response. With acne, your body is warning others to stay away, because something is wrong.

Now let's take an evolutionary perspective. Would this trait of warning others to stay away during our most crucial social years be evolutionary beneficial for everyone to have? No, of course it wouldn't be. The moment someone comes along who does not suffer from acne in a population where all of the individuals innately have acne, their genes would be selected for. They would get more mates. They would have more social bonds and a bigger social network. They would have more resources, and more people to watch their back. The acne gene would disappear very quickly - unless it was meant to keep others away for a good reason (one that increases net fitness), and was triggered only in certain circumstances.

And so by evolutionary logic, you're also wrong. Of course, could have just pointed out that hunter-gatherers do not suffer from acne, teenage or otherwise, but now you see some of the logic behind that observation.

In short, it seems incredibly shortsighted of you to suggest that acne is purely genetic and has no environmental triggers or interactions. More importantly, though, I think it's best to remember that nobody has a cure for everyone; doctors have cures for some, and diet has cures for others. Once we find the cause of acne (which we have yet to do, after all these years), we'll be better able to determine just what exactly is going on.

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This is the other thing I hate about the diet section of this forum: people don't know how to READ in this section! I already said that what works for me is accutane, BP and AHA. Now I just use BP face wash every night, let it stay on my skin 2-3 minutes and wash off and I'm 100% clear.

I did what you suggested last summer and oh boy I was fucked! I had so bad acne, it was a fucking nightmare.

I see that alternativista has ran back to the troll forest when her theories got proven wrong.

You seem to be suggesting that the incidence of acne has remained stable over that last few thousand years. If it was purely genetic and there was no interaction with environment, this would be the observation. This is not the case, so you're wrong. You can question which specific environmental interaction is a trigger of acne. This is still a subject of a lot of research, and there is probably no one answer.

Acne is a display that something is wrong within your body. Think about smallpox; red dots on your skin warn others to stay away; your immune system creates them to decrease the likelihood of spreading whatever it is you have. There are many diseases that result in similar rashes or dots and for the same reason, and in each case the dots are not a manifestation of the disease, but rather a manifestation of your immune response. With acne, your body is warning others to stay away, because something is wrong.

Now let's take an evolutionary perspective. Would this trait of warning others to stay away during our most crucial social years be evolutionary beneficial for everyone to have? No, of course it wouldn't be. The moment someone comes along who does not suffer from acne in a population where all of the individuals innately have acne, their genes would be selected for. They would get more mates. They would have more social bonds and a bigger social network. They would have more resources, and more people to watch their back. The acne gene would disappear very quickly - unless it was meant to keep others away for a good reason (one that increases net fitness), and was triggered only in certain circumstances.

And so by evolutionary logic, you're also wrong. Of course, could have just pointed out that hunter-gatherers do not suffer from acne, teenage or otherwise, but now you see some of the logic behind that observation.

In short, it seems incredibly shortsighted of you to suggest that acne is purely genetic and has no environmental triggers or interactions. More importantly, though, I think it's best to remember that nobody has a cure for everyone; doctors have cures for some, and diet has cures for others. Once we find the cause of acne (which we have yet to do, after all these years), we'll be better able to determine just what exactly is going on.

All acne is a hormonal by-product and does not have several alternate causes; what get's the ball rolling is hormones which is why it usually appears first at puberty. Twin studies have proven that largely 80% of acne is genetic and only a measly 20% of a persons acne is influenced by environmental factors. Neither does having acne signify something is seriously wrong with your body.

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Why are so many people responding to the troll?

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This is the other thing I hate about the diet section of this forum: people don't know how to READ in this section! I already said that what works for me is accutane, BP and AHA. Now I just use BP face wash every night, let it stay on my skin 2-3 minutes and wash off and I'm 100% clear.

I did what you suggested last summer and oh boy I was fucked! I had so bad acne, it was a fucking nightmare.

I see that alternativista has ran back to the troll forest when her theories got proven wrong.

You seem to be suggesting that the incidence of acne has remained stable over that last few thousand years. If it was purely genetic and there was no interaction with environment, this would be the observation. This is not the case, so you're wrong. You can question which specific environmental interaction is a trigger of acne. This is still a subject of a lot of research, and there is probably no one answer.

Acne is a display that something is wrong within your body. Think about smallpox; red dots on your skin warn others to stay away; your immune system creates them to decrease the likelihood of spreading whatever it is you have. There are many diseases that result in similar rashes or dots and for the same reason, and in each case the dots are not a manifestation of the disease, but rather a manifestation of your immune response. With acne, your body is warning others to stay away, because something is wrong.

Now let's take an evolutionary perspective. Would this trait of warning others to stay away during our most crucial social years be evolutionary beneficial for everyone to have? No, of course it wouldn't be. The moment someone comes along who does not suffer from acne in a population where all of the individuals innately have acne, their genes would be selected for. They would get more mates. They would have more social bonds and a bigger social network. They would have more resources, and more people to watch their back. The acne gene would disappear very quickly - unless it was meant to keep others away for a good reason (one that increases net fitness), and was triggered only in certain circumstances.

And so by evolutionary logic, you're also wrong. Of course, could have just pointed out that hunter-gatherers do not suffer from acne, teenage or otherwise, but now you see some of the logic behind that observation.

In short, it seems incredibly shortsighted of you to suggest that acne is purely genetic and has no environmental triggers or interactions. More importantly, though, I think it's best to remember that nobody has a cure for everyone; doctors have cures for some, and diet has cures for others. Once we find the cause of acne (which we have yet to do, after all these years), we'll be better able to determine just what exactly is going on.

All acne is a hormonal by-product and does not have several alternate causes; what get's the ball rolling is hormones which is why it usually appears first at puberty. Twin studies have proven that largely 80% of acne is genetic and only a measly 20% of a persons acne is influenced by environmental factors. Neither does having acne signify something is seriously wrong with your body.

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Yes and No to the OP. I am 33 and do avoid gluten, soy and most dairy consistently for over over 2 years now. I am definitely not 100% clear. But my skin is better with it. I am also "lucky" enough to have to constantly use B.P. in addition to the diet. lol And accutane and other drugs did not help me. At this point I wish I was one of those people that was 100% clear from diet and/or drugs to be honest. But now its sort of manageable with about 80% clear. I will take that I guess. lol

I have a plan for you to get 100% clear if you're interested.

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I never expected that you diet people would be this delusional, it would make more sense talking to a monkey about astrophysics. I will continue to live a full life, eating what I wanna eat and doing what I wanna do and still be 100% clear just by letting BP stay on my skin 2 minutes every night and washing off. Don't have to hide in my closet or just eat one carrot a day and worry. Like I said, I have tried your methods alternativista, didn't work.

And to those people who got clear with diet, maybe they really did have some sort of allergy or their acne was the usual "terrible" acne where you get one pimple per month, lol.

There is not a single respected doctor or derm in this universe who agrees that diet is the cause of acne.

I will leave you strugglin with your diet and acne and go live a full life now, peace out bye.

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I never expected that you diet people would be this delusional, it would make more sense talking to a monkey about astrophysics. I will continue to live a full life, eating what I wanna eat and doing what I wanna do and still be 100% clear just by letting BP stay on my skin 2 minutes every night and washing off. Don't have to hide in my closet or just eat one carrot a day and worry. Like I said, I have tried your methods alternativista, didn't work.

And to those people who got clear with diet, maybe they really did have some sort of allergy or their acne was the usual "terrible" acne where you get one pimple per month, lol.

There is not a single respected doctor or derm in this universe who agrees that diet is the cause of acne.

I will leave you strugglin with your diet and acne and go live a full life now, peace out bye.

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Hmm, it seems that we have totally different causes of acne then. I have always responded perfectly to BP and accutane and I got cystic acne only when I was teenager, my cystic acne stopped when I was about 18 years old. I have eaten healthy and haven't touched alcohol or cigarettes in over 10 years and I'm a high level athlete. I don't want to fight with you Alternativista or anyone else here, rather just smile and be happy. I have eaten oats for many years, but just recently stopped because I noticed that my saliva turns to really thick and slimy every time I eat oats and it has been proven in research that soaking oats or heating it won't affect phytic acid amount a lot.

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Hmm, it seems that we have totally different causes of acne then. I have always responded perfectly to BP and accutane and I got cystic acne only when I was teenager, my cystic acne stopped when I was about 18 years old. I have eaten healthy and haven't touched alcohol or cigarettes in over 10 years and I'm a high level athlete. I don't want to fight with you Alternativista or anyone else here, rather just smile and be happy. I have eaten oats for many years, but just recently stopped because I noticed that my saliva turns to really thick and slimy every time I eat oats and it has been proven in research that soaking oats or heating it won't affect phytic acid amount a lot.

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The reason we are replying is because you know brings up a TON of good points. We always need someone to criticize the common belief for the sake of new ideas.

But I believe that acne is caused by diet. Here's why:

First, ask yourself this. What is the most effective treatment for acne on the market? The answer is obviously accutane. Accutane clears up about 95% of acne sufferers by the end of the cycle. Accutane is the only treatment available that is known to work and completely clear up skin. Now you're probably wondering: what the fuck does accutane have to do with the diet-acne link?

Accutane is very, very similar to vitamin A. Vitamin A was actually used in high doses to treat acne before accutane was developed. Vitamin A is also very, very effective at treating acne (read link at bottom of my post). I believe that acne is caused by a lack of vitamin A. Nowadays, our diet consists of such little vitamin A that it makes my point even clearer (a pun, hahha) as to why we are seeing increased rates of acne. The half-life of vitamin A is 6 months so if you are a salad daily your levels would steadily increase.

My post probably doesn't even make sense. I am doing a terrible job at backing up my point. But seriously, do some research on vitamin a and acne. I believe the cause of acne is lack of vitamin A.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/6453848/

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First, ask yourself this. What is the most effective treatment for acne on the market? The answer is obviously accutane. Accutane clears up about 95% of acne sufferers by the end of the cycle.

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First, ask yourself this. What is the most effective treatment for acne on the market? The answer is obviously accutane. Accutane clears up about 95% of acne sufferers by the end of the cycle.

I think the Accutane clearing rate is much lower. I've seen studies reporting acne remission rates as low as 40%.

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First, ask yourself this. What is the most effective treatment for acne on the market? The answer is obviously accutane. Accutane clears up about 95% of acne sufferers by the end of the cycle.

I think the Accutane clearing rate is much lower. I've seen studies reporting acne remission rates as low as 40%.

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First, ask yourself this. What is the most effective treatment for acne on the market? The answer is obviously accutane. Accutane clears up about 95% of acne sufferers by the end of the cycle.

I think the Accutane clearing rate is much lower. I've seen studies reporting acne remission rates as low as 40%.

Yes. And then even those for whom it works, its only temporary and they take it again and again.

We are misled all the time about success rates. Take the flu shot. It's only about 50%effective and that is when they include the right strains, which isn't that often. Your best defense isn't a flu shot, its a strong immune system which you get by consuming nutrients, sleeping, managing stress, exercise, laughter, etc.

Natural gas isn't all that clean burning either, btw.

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The reason we are replying is because you know brings up a TON of good points. We always need someone to criticize the common belief for the sake of new ideas.

But I believe that acne is caused by diet. Here's why:

First, ask yourself this. What is the most effective treatment for acne on the market? The answer is obviously accutane. Accutane clears up about 95% of acne sufferers by the end of the cycle. Accutane is the only treatment available that is known to work and completely clear up skin. Now you're probably wondering: what the fuck does accutane have to do with the diet-acne link?

Accutane is very, very similar to vitamin A. Vitamin A was actually used in high doses to treat acne before accutane was developed. Vitamin A is also very, very effective at treating acne (read link at bottom of my post). I believe that acne is caused by a lack of vitamin A. Nowadays, our diet consists of such little vitamin A that it makes my point even clearer (a pun, hahha) as to why we are seeing increased rates of acne. The half-life of vitamin A is 6 months so if you are a salad daily your levels would steadily increase.

My post probably doesn't even make sense. I am doing a terrible job at backing up my point. But seriously, do some research on vitamin a and acne. I believe the cause of acne is lack of vitamin A.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/6453848/

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No, inflammation is at the root of acne formation, not just cysts. It initiates the malformed cells that do not exfoliate freely.

..hope you're right, i wish you are

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No, inflammation is at the root of acne formation, not just cysts. It initiates the malformed cells that do not exfoliate freely.

..hope you're right, i wish you are

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Well the reason you don't see as many adults with acne is because sebum production (mostly in terms of quality), for most people, normalizes after puberty, so you're removing the necessary condition. People might still have the food sensitivities, but they are not manifesting as acne because the required sebum composition is not there (because hormones have normalized).

Also, I have a feeling that not all acne is the same - cystic acne and comedonal acne likely have somewhat different causes. I was able to clear my cystic acne very easily by changing my diet. My comedonal acne stuck around. Even this past Christmas, when I ate too much chocolate, the inflammatory acne returned, and now has subsided on cue as I returned to my paleo diet. I was able to clear my chest acne with colostrum, which is basically an immunomodulator, but it didn't do much for my face acne. I have a hard time understanding why doctors and dermatologists think that acne manifesting on different parts of the body and in different forms is all the same, and thus should be treated the same. This seems fundamentally wrong to me, especially since we still don't even know the root cause that ties these conditions together.

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No, inflammation is at the root of acne formation, not just cysts. It initiates the malformed cells that do not exfoliate freely.

..hope you're right, i wish you are

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