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Studies Show That Millions Of People Do Not Convert Beta-Carotene Into Vitamin A Well Enough To Substitute For Vitamin A Or Get The Rda

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Please read this article:

http://www.supernutritionusa.com/images/pdfs/VitaminALongVersion.pdf

I've read similar articles that say many people can not convert beta carotene to Vitamin A (retinol) form. That is really bad! Especially if you are a vegetarian or vegan!!!!

I'm clear from acne with my magnesium/calcium. However, I still have keratosis pilaris (chicken skin on upper arms). I was researching, and saw it was a Vitamin A deficiency. I wondered why.... And saw many people getting clear with FERMENTED COD LIVER OIL. I will not name the brand here but there is only ONE COMPANY to make this FERMENTED cod liver oil!!! And many have had great results because of the high omega 3, and vitamin A (retinol form), and vitamin D! I already ordered mine from their website. It's pricey but if it clears my kp... smile.png

I'm posting this hear because I know that there were a few people that said it cleared up their acne. Also, we all know about Accutane.... And I've read rave reviews on vitamin A. However, they were pills.. This is an actual FOOD. It's natural. No man-made crap.

Second, does anyone know where I can get raw milk in Maryland? It is illegal in most states. If you drink raw milk, please let me know how you went about getting it. I'm not a dairy freak, and not really a meat eater or egg eater. lol Every once in a while though... I feel it would be great to meet my fat soluble vitamin needs! Google more about raw milk! I actually had some when I was in France and my god it was amazing. No breakouts or nothing!!!!! It is NOTHING like that crap in stores.... Too bad the government makes it illegal. Please protest!

I'm a huge fan of Weston A Price so I might call one of their charter leaders to find out how I can get it here if no one knows. You should look at their site. Very enlightening.

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You do realize that article was written by a company that sells vitamins? Of course they're going to say more people need to take vitamins. They're selling a product to make money. The average person doesn't need to take any vitamins if they eat a healthy balanced diet.

Be careful what you read online.

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You do realize that article was written by a company that sells vitamins? Of course they're going to say more people need to take vitamins. They're selling a product to make money. The average person doesn't need to take any vitamins if they eat a healthy balanced diet.

Be careful what you read online.

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But you must look int the reasons for ths. Could be deficiency in other nutrients. And our conventional medicinal establishment is good at focusing on the wrong problem and proposing the wrong solution. Like the insistence that consuming too much salt raises blood pressure whole ignoring potassium deficiencies even though the Japanese consume far more salt yet don't have corresponding high blood pressure. And tht osteoporosis is caused by calcium deficiency and not a deficiency in the many other nutrients needed needed for bones or the crap diet habits that cause calcium to be taken from bones.

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[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

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But you must look int the reasons for ths. Could be fecicency in other nutrients. And our conventional medicinal establishment is good at focusing on the wrong problem and proposing the wrong solution. Like the insistence that consuming too much salt raises blood pressure whole ignoring potassium deficiencies even though the Japanese consume far more salt yet don't have corresponding high blood pressure. And tht osteoporosis is caused by calcium deficiency and not a deficiency in the many other nutrients needed needed for bones or the crap diet habits that cause calcium to be taken from bones.

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I think that you should keep us updated, this is interesting. Just because some people have objections to this theory doesn't mean that it can't help you, so don't get discouraged. Although I'm not a fan of cod liver oil or raw milk, the logic behind this method seems to be valid. Enabling the body to fully maximize the absorption of nutrients is key. The relationship between hormones and nutritional deficiencies is also very intriguing...I have PCOS and have some common deficiencies associated with hormonal imbalance, like vitamin D and inositol, so - along the same lines -- the thyroid-vitamin absorption connection can definitely help some people.

If you find it hard to get raw milk, don't completely rule out supplements. I don't recommend megadosing with vitamin A or anything extreme. Just find a whole food supplement that contains vitamin A and other nutrients...my top recommendations would be herpanacine (great ratio of vitamins plus a gentle herbal blend) and solgar's earth source vitamins (great multi that helped my hormonal acne for a few years). Sure, there are fillers in most supplements, but these are the top 2 I have tried so far that my body responded well to.


Current regimen: garlic supplements [as needed], Enzymedica gluten blocker [as needed], nicadan [not sure if it works yet]. I try to simplify as much as I can. Don't take more supplements than you need....try one at a time and be patient.

The supplements that really helped me when my acne was at its worst: inositol, DIM [not as frequently now!] digestive enzymes [don't need them every day anymore, only on cheat days], herpanacine & vitamin C with rose hips/ low acid [not every day], regular sun exposure for vitamin D3, superoxide dismutase (SOD) enzyme supplements. NOTE: I do not recommend DIM for long term use, and I do not recommend hormonal creams without doctor supervision.

Lifestyle & Skin Care: acupuncture, regular exercise/ yoga, low histamine diet, avoiding unnecessary stress, balancing skin's PH (using Image Ormedics), using distilled/ filtered water to wash face, occasional high frequency facials...

 

Grocery list:

 

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I think that you should keep us updated, this is interesting. Just because some people have objections to this theory doesn't mean that it can't help you, so don't get discouraged. Although I'm not a fan of cod liver oil or raw milk, the logic behind this method seems to be valid. Enabling the body to fully maximize the absorption of nutrients is key. The relationship between hormones and nutritional deficiencies is also very intriguing...I have PCOS and have some common deficiencies associated with hormonal imbalance, like vitamin D and inositol, so - along the same lines -- the thyroid-vitamin absorption connection can definitely help some people.

If you find it hard to get raw milk, don't completely rule out supplements. I don't recommend megadosing with vitamin A or anything extreme. Just find a whole food supplement that contains vitamin A and other nutrients...my top recommendations would be herpanacine (great ratio of vitamins plus a gentle herbal blend) and solgar's earth source vitamins (great multi that helped my hormonal acne for a few years). Sure, there are fillers in most supplements, but these are the top 2 I have tried so far that my body responded well to.

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I saw improvement in my skin tone and overall health when starting the herpanacine, but I think for me it's the combination of all the vitamins, minerals, and herbs that works. I haven't tried supplementing with just vitamin A sources. I think it's relatively easy to obtain vitamin A from food sources like carrots, but you are right about people avoiding sources of vitamin A during elimination diets (esp. eggs). I'll keep cod liver oil in mind if my current regimen ever stops working, thanks for sharing the brand.

Btw, when I tried supplementing with calcium d- glucarate, my skin got worse....I haven't tried calcium supplements since. I just drink fortified rice milk to get some calcium into my diet.


Current regimen: garlic supplements [as needed], Enzymedica gluten blocker [as needed], nicadan [not sure if it works yet]. I try to simplify as much as I can. Don't take more supplements than you need....try one at a time and be patient.

The supplements that really helped me when my acne was at its worst: inositol, DIM [not as frequently now!] digestive enzymes [don't need them every day anymore, only on cheat days], herpanacine & vitamin C with rose hips/ low acid [not every day], regular sun exposure for vitamin D3, superoxide dismutase (SOD) enzyme supplements. NOTE: I do not recommend DIM for long term use, and I do not recommend hormonal creams without doctor supervision.

Lifestyle & Skin Care: acupuncture, regular exercise/ yoga, low histamine diet, avoiding unnecessary stress, balancing skin's PH (using Image Ormedics), using distilled/ filtered water to wash face, occasional high frequency facials...

 

Grocery list:

 

** Find the cause, find the cure **

** If you have a question for me, please ask it publicly so that others can benefit from the discussion**

 

 


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I can vouch for the fermented cod liver oil. I have been using it for a year and a half now on and off for a few months at a time followed by a few weeks off or so. I have taken time off for 2 reasons. The cost as it is expensive and to test it out to see if it really works. My skin is just different when I take it everyday (1-1.5 tsp) a day. It is more forgiving and I can get away with cheating on my diet more. When I stop taking it, the oil increases, the breakout increase, and the pimples are deeper and more cystic.

Right now I am totally clear taking 1.5 tsp every single day. I have had acne since I was 12 (now 26) and the only periods of my life when I am able to become completely clear are on the cod liver oil and I have been on every antibiotic, prescription cream, and over the counter kit on the market. If I stop taking the cod liver oil, my neck breaks out in cysts and the BP that I use on my face twice a day will only minimize my breakouts. I will still have a wide assortment of papules, pustules, and some nodules and cysts.

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I saw improvement in my skin tone and overall health when starting the herpanacine, but I think for me it's the combination of all the vitamins, minerals, and herbs that works. I haven't tried supplementing with just vitamin A sources. I think it's relatively easy to obtain vitamin A from food sources like carrots, but you are right about people avoiding sources of vitamin A during elimination diets (esp. eggs). I'll keep cod liver oil in mind if my current regimen ever stops working, thanks for sharing the brand.

Btw, when I tried supplementing with calcium d- glucarate, my skin got worse....I haven't tried calcium supplements since. I just drink fortified rice milk to get some calcium into my diet.

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I saw improvement in my skin tone and overall health when starting the herpanacine, but I think for me it's the combination of all the vitamins, minerals, and herbs that works. I haven't tried supplementing with just vitamin A sources. I think it's relatively easy to obtain vitamin A from food sources like carrots, but you are right about people avoiding sources of vitamin A during elimination diets (esp. eggs). I'll keep cod liver oil in mind if my current regimen ever stops working, thanks for sharing the brand.

Btw, when I tried supplementing with calcium d- glucarate, my skin got worse....I haven't tried calcium supplements since. I just drink fortified rice milk to get some calcium into my diet.

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I think it is easy to obtain beta-carotene from food sources (sweet potatoes, carrots, etc), but it is difficult to obtain the preformed Vitamin A form that is found in animal products like pastured eggs, raw milk, liver (especially chicken liver), fermented cod liver oil,... Plus, vitamin A is a fat soluble vitamin. Meaning... it needs FAT to be used/absorbed. I remember someone here saying they put coconut oil on their sweet potatoes and cleared up. This could very well explain why.

Yes, with calcium supplements, I would avoid at all costs if you eat some dairy + greens. I avoid a lot of dairy, and I barely ate greens unless it was in a salad which is not much. Also, it is important to take an absorbable form (I take citrate). And, it is important to make sure other cofactors are good (Vitamin D, magnesium, K2...). And I was on a medication that depleted my calcium a while back so maybe that is why I had success with it.

>I can vouch for the fermented cod liver oil. I have been using it for a year and a half now on and off for a few months at a time followed by a few weeks off or so. I have taken time off for 2 reasons. The cost as it is expensive and to test it out to see if it really works. My skin is just different when I take it everyday (1-1.5 tsp) a day. It is more forgiving and I can get away with cheating on my diet more. When I stop taking it, the oil increases, the breakout increase, and the pimples are deeper and more cystic.

Right now I am totally clear taking 1.5 tsp every single day. I have had acne since I was 12 (now 26) and the only periods of my life when I am able to become completely clear are on the cod liver oil and I have been on every antibiotic, prescription cream, and over the counter kit on the market. If I stop taking the cod liver oil, my neck breaks out in cysts and the BP that I use on my face twice a day will only minimize my breakouts. I will still have a wide assortment of papules, pustules, and some nodules and cysts.

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I saw improvement in my skin tone and overall health when starting the herpanacine, but I think for me it's the combination of all the vitamins, minerals, and herbs that works. I haven't tried supplementing with just vitamin A sources. I think it's relatively easy to obtain vitamin A from food sources like carrots, but you are right about people avoiding sources of vitamin A during elimination diets (esp. eggs). I'll keep cod liver oil in mind if my current regimen ever stops working, thanks for sharing the brand.

Btw, when I tried supplementing with calcium d- glucarate, my skin got worse....I haven't tried calcium supplements since. I just drink fortified rice milk to get some calcium into my diet.

Awesome! smile.png

I think it is easy to obtain beta-carotene from food sources (sweet potatoes, carrots, etc), but it is difficult to obtain the preformed Vitamin A form that is found in animal products like pastured eggs, raw milk, liver (especially chicken liver), fermented cod liver oil,... Plus, vitamin A is a fat soluble vitamin. Meaning... it needs FAT to be used/absorbed. I remember someone here saying they put coconut oil on their sweet potatoes and cleared up. This could very well explain why.

Yes, with calcium supplements, I would avoid at all costs if you eat some dairy + greens. I avoid a lot of dairy, and I barely ate greens unless it was in a salad which is not much. Also, it is important to take an absorbable form (I take citrate). And, it is important to make sure other cofactors are good (Vitamin D, magnesium, K2...). And I was on a medication that depleted my calcium a while back so maybe that is why I had success with it.

>I can vouch for the fermented cod liver oil. I have been using it for a year and a half now on and off for a few months at a time followed by a few weeks off or so. I have taken time off for 2 reasons. The cost as it is expensive and to test it out to see if it really works. My skin is just different when I take it everyday (1-1.5 tsp) a day. It is more forgiving and I can get away with cheating on my diet more. When I stop taking it, the oil increases, the breakout increase, and the pimples are deeper and more cystic.

Right now I am totally clear taking 1.5 tsp every single day. I have had acne since I was 12 (now 26) and the only periods of my life when I am able to become completely clear are on the cod liver oil and I have been on every antibiotic, prescription cream, and over the counter kit on the market. If I stop taking the cod liver oil, my neck breaks out in cysts and the BP that I use on my face twice a day will only minimize my breakouts. I will still have a wide assortment of papules, pustules, and some nodules and cysts.

Hey!! Thanks for this! I hope other people can read this and see I am not crazy.. lol biggrin.png Yes it is crazy expensive. Did you take the Green Pasture's cod liver oil? I took Carlson's and a few other brands but never noticed a difference. I heard it was because other cod liver oils are so PROCESSED (like white rice.. lol). They strip all of the nutrients and then in the end, they either have low levels of vitamin A and D, or they add in SYNTHETIC vitamins A and D which is like... wtf is the point? smile.png Also, did you take cod liver oil + butter oil? I am taking the cod liver oil + butter oil because vitamin A and other fat soluble vitamins needs fat to be absorbed, and the butter oil is a great source of vitamin K2 which helps put calcium into the right places (bones and not soft tissues). It is also scarce in our modern diet. Lastly, did you ever experience an initial breakout? I have read some people experiencing this initial breakout because of the high vitamin A (similar to the way Accutane worked for others...). Heard it takes 2-3 weeks. I'm surprised it had worked great so far. Today though, I woke up with 2 pimples (deep nodule things), and I'm wondering if I am about to go through an initial breakout? I still have all of the other benefits I mentioned earlier, and my pores are clear... everything is great. So it kinda threw me off. Maybe I ate something weird yesterday? hmm... Thanks for sharing your experience!!

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Please read this article:

http://www.supernutritionusa.com/images/pdfs/VitaminALongVersion.pdf

I've read similar articles that say many people can not convert beta carotene to Vitamin A (retinol) form. That is really bad! Especially if you are a vegetarian or vegan!!!!

I'm clear from acne with my magnesium/calcium. However, I still have keratosis pilaris (chicken skin on upper arms). I was researching, and saw it was a Vitamin A deficiency. I wondered why.... And saw many people getting clear with FERMENTED COD LIVER OIL. I will not name the brand here but there is only ONE COMPANY to make this FERMENTED cod liver oil!!! And many have had great results because of the high omega 3, and vitamin A (retinol form), and vitamin D! I already ordered mine from their website. It's pricey but if it clears my kp... smile.png

I'm posting this hear because I know that there were a few people that said it cleared up their acne. Also, we all know about Accutane.... And I've read rave reviews on vitamin A. However, they were pills.. This is an actual FOOD. It's natural. No man-made crap.

Second, does anyone know where I can get raw milk in Maryland? It is illegal in most states. If you drink raw milk, please let me know how you went about getting it. I'm not a dairy freak, and not really a meat eater or egg eater. lol Every once in a while though... I feel it would be great to meet my fat soluble vitamin needs! Google more about raw milk! I actually had some when I was in France and my god it was amazing. No breakouts or nothing!!!!! It is NOTHING like that crap in stores.... Too bad the government makes it illegal. Please protest!

I'm a huge fan of Weston A Price so I might call one of their charter leaders to find out how I can get it here if no one knows. You should look at their site. Very enlightening.

smile.png

Good luck!


Current Routine

Morning

Spironolactone (started 1/06/2014)

Evening

Isotrex 0.05mg gel (started 1/06/2014)

Other things that help: Sugar-free diet, a teaspoon of oily fish oil with added vitamin A + D3 every other day and a daily vitamin supplement.

Exercise: 30-45 minute brisk walk 4 times a week.


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