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Posted 02 July 2014 - 10:12 PM

U lucky sexy b^*&% :) Are you going to post before and after photos ?? I want to seeeeee

Done! Off for about three days now.

My lips are still a bit chapped. This in between phase is almost more annoying than when they used to peel off every day.



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Posted 03 July 2014 - 09:22 AM

Whoo hoo! Congrats!




My regimen:

Mornings:
CeraVe Foaming Cleanser Normal to Oily Skin
Paula's Choice Skin Balancing Toner, Oily/Combination Skin (no alcohol, tons of antioxidants)

Paula's Choice Skin Balancing Super Antioxidant Serum

CeraVe AM Facial Moisturizing Lotion 30 SPF for Normal to Dry Skin

Amnesteem 40mg daily, 6-month course started June 30, 2014

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Paula's Choice Skin Balancing Toner, Oily/Combination Skin (no alcohol, tons of antioxidants)
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Posted 06 July 2014 - 04:55 AM

Fingers crossed you stay clear Kim!



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Posted 15 July 2014 - 07:22 PM

Hi Kim

 

What is your skincare routine now you are off the tane? Sending good vibes your way that you stay 100% clear. Also I am curious you mentioned about day 75 of your course that you had some small cloggers/comedones that were not getting inflamed but just sitting there. Did these ever disappear or are they still there? Reason I ask is that tane seems to have had minimal effect on these for me. My forehead and cheeks especially have lots of these just sitting there that rarely get inflamed and come out, nor do they clear up either.

Done! Off for about three days now.

My lips are still a bit chapped. This in between phase is almost more annoying than when they used to peel off every day.



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Posted 16 July 2014 - 08:18 AM

Hey JJ!

So far so good. The side of my nose was a little sore yesterday, so I spent the better part of the afternoon looking for a zit, but couldn't find one. I think it might just be from getting a bit sunburned at the beach the other day. So, skin is good, but paranoia is still high!

 

I have basically returned to the routine I was using before this second round of Accutane. That and an anti-androgen kept me clear for a lot of years, and I've realized that my skincare doesn't make as much of a difference as my hormones. The only piece of it that I really think is a bit helpful for me is using a tiny bit of BP morning and night. It was when I stopped doing this to try a tretinion cream that things really went bonkers and landed my back on Accutane. So maybe I'll be a slave to it forever, and maybe it will make my skin drier or whatever, but I'll take that over acne returning any day.

 

Here's my routine:

- Wash with a mild cleanser. (I like spectrojel. Not sure if they sell this outside of Canada, but cetaphil or cerave would be similar)

- Mix a pea sized amount of BP with two peas of moisturizer and apply. (I like moisturel, but again cetaphil or cerave would be similar, and for BP I use the proactiv one because it is less tacky than most and wears well under makeup - possibly not a concern for you!)

 

I wear foundation - but just a dab mixed with sunscreen. For sunscreen I am picky. I use MD solarsciences 50 spf because the ingredients are things that agree with me and it has 17% zinc oxide, which I think helps with my redness, and is supposed to ward off inflammation.

 

In the PM I also remove my makeup first with bioderma sensibio, which is a micellar water that takes off makeup beautifully. Again, probably not a concern for you.

 

That's it. I really think less is more with this acne deal. People put so much crazy stuff on their faces, and it really only seems to just irritate and make things worse, at least that has been my experience in the past.

 

I tend to think that a big piece of what kept me clear for so long after my first course was using an anti-androgenic form of birth control. It was only when I went off that for a good while that I started getting really oily skin and a few zits here and there. Trying to fix that by changing up my routine and adding all sort of topicals was what landed me back on Accutane.

 

To answer your Q about the 'cloggers' (damn those cloggers!). Most of them turned into little whiteheads right before I cleared up. One of them just disappeared, which I thought was rather a miracle. I do still have a couple little white bumps under the skin here and there, but I think most of them are scars from prior bumps.

 

I have come to accept that my skin will never be 'perfect'. And really, when I look around at my same age peers (late 30s), I don't think I'm doing too badly. It's not like I'm 19 anymore, so I don't have the expectation of perfectly smooth baby skin. I still have some redness that I hope will fade with time. All I really want in life is to not have painful spots on my face all the time. I can handle a few little blackheads or cloggy pores, I just hope to avoid cysts and other types of big ouchers. If I can do that I will be a happy girl.

 

Looking forward to reading positive updates from you. We have been through a long journey together, and it really gets my goat that you're not where you want to be yet.

Thinking of you.

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Posted 17 July 2014 - 11:59 AM

I am so happy to hear you are staying clear! One question: How are you dealing with the paranoia that your acne might come back? Like...I am ok with having a spot here and there like everyone else, but it's eating me alive thinking that one spot here or there will lead to 30 spots and how do I know the difference between 'normal' breakouts and relapse? I know you probably don't have the answer to that question, I am just wondering what your thought processes are in dealing with that fear.


My Accutane log (with pictures):
 
 http://www.acne.org/...r-accutane-log/
 
26 y/o female- approx. 54kg
Absorica -40 mg, 1 daily, December 26, 2013 - February, 25, 2014
Absorica - 60 mg, 1 daily. February 26, 2014 -
Probiotic - 1 daily
Fish oil supplement w/ vit D - 1 daily

Morning:
Cetaphil cleanser
Food Grade Rose water - Toner
La Roche Posay Mineral Water Spray
Vichy 50+ Capital Soleil Cream for Sensitive Skin


Night:
Cetaphil Cleanser
Food grade Rose Water - Toner
La Roche Posay Mineral Water Spray
Aveeno Positively Radiant intensive night cream
Cerave Facial Moisturizing Lotion- PM
Cerave Moisturizing cream
Avene Cicalfate (as needed)


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Posted 17 July 2014 - 09:56 PM

Meg, I am not good with the paranoia at all!

With my first course, it just took time. If it is truly not a relapse, then eventually you just get used to not having terrible acne anymore and it stops being the first thing on your mind when you wake up in the morning. It probably took me about a year after my first course before I stopped worrying every day and with every tiny spot. Over the ten years I was clear I would get a tiny spot from time to time and a bigger one about once a year (always in the spring - no idea why). And every time I would be a little bit afraid, but less and less as time went on.

 

The thing that is helping me now is that I can do another course if I need to. The worst did happen - my acne came back. But I survived, and if I had just gone back to Accutane instead of trying out topicals and various OTC products, the 'relapse' experience would not have been that bad.

 

So I guess the knowledge that Accutane is there for me if I need it (my derm has suggested a long term low dose course if trouble happens again), and that a relapse doesn't mean I'm stuck with acne forever (clear right now!) helps a lot.

 

To answer you second question, I knew I was relapsing when my skin got super oily again and I started always having a cyst or two. Not like I had one and then nothing for a while - like I was always covering something up and worrying about something. I started going through concealer way faster, when previously I usually threw it out barely used just because it was old.

 

When my acne first came back, prior to my topical debacle, it was not as bad as it had been and in fewer places. But, it was bad enough that I worried about things like if a big event was coming up - would I have a giant zit for it? I started not wanting to make plans and thinking about my skin all the time, and that's when I knew I had to do something. I did the wrong thing at first, but I learned from that and I guess that's the best I can do.

 

Most importantly I guess I learned that I am not a failure for taking it again. It even says right on the product monograph that most people reach sustained clarity through "one or two courses of isotretinoin therapy", so a second course is not the shocker people make it out to be. From reading your posts, you seem to have a great derm that is willing to work with you, and that is the best thing you can have I think.

 

The fear is hard to kick, and I think I'll have it in the back of my mind forever, but it does get better once you have some sustained clarity. Let's hope we can both find some peace of mind.



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Posted 18 July 2014 - 11:45 AM

Meg, I am not good with the paranoia at all!

With my first course, it just took time. If it is truly not a relapse, then eventually you just get used to not having terrible acne anymore and it stops being the first thing on your mind when you wake up in the morning. It probably took me about a year after my first course before I stopped worrying every day and with every tiny spot. Over the ten years I was clear I would get a tiny spot from time to time and a bigger one about once a year (always in the spring - no idea why). And every time I would be a little bit afraid, but less and less as time went on.

 

The thing that is helping me now is that I can do another course if I need to. The worst did happen - my acne came back. But I survived, and if I had just gone back to Accutane instead of trying out topicals and various OTC products, the 'relapse' experience would not have been that bad.

 

So I guess the knowledge that Accutane is there for me if I need it (my derm has suggested a long term low dose course if trouble happens again), and that a relapse doesn't mean I'm stuck with acne forever (clear right now!) helps a lot.

 

To answer you second question, I knew I was relapsing when my skin got super oily again and I started always having a cyst or two. Not like I had one and then nothing for a while - like I was always covering something up and worrying about something. I started going through concealer way faster, when previously I usually threw it out barely used just because it was old.

 

When my acne first came back, prior to my topical debacle, it was not as bad as it had been and in fewer places. But, it was bad enough that I worried about things like if a big event was coming up - would I have a giant zit for it? I started not wanting to make plans and thinking about my skin all the time, and that's when I knew I had to do something. I did the wrong thing at first, but I learned from that and I guess that's the best I can do.

 

Most importantly I guess I learned that I am not a failure for taking it again. It even says right on the product monograph that most people reach sustained clarity through "one or two courses of isotretinoin therapy", so a second course is not the shocker people make it out to be. From reading your posts, you seem to have a great derm that is willing to work with you, and that is the best thing you can have I think.

 

The fear is hard to kick, and I think I'll have it in the back of my mind forever, but it does get better once you have some sustained clarity. Let's hope we can both find some peace of mind.

Thank you so much for that Kim. I think it all makes sense. I know that if I have to, I will go back on it and to be honest - it really wasn't as bad as people make it out to be. The first couple months were not fun mainly because I didn't know what to expect, but towards the last couple of months I almost forgot I was taking it until it was time for my pill.


My Accutane log (with pictures):
 
 http://www.acne.org/...r-accutane-log/
 
26 y/o female- approx. 54kg
Absorica -40 mg, 1 daily, December 26, 2013 - February, 25, 2014
Absorica - 60 mg, 1 daily. February 26, 2014 -
Probiotic - 1 daily
Fish oil supplement w/ vit D - 1 daily

Morning:
Cetaphil cleanser
Food Grade Rose water - Toner
La Roche Posay Mineral Water Spray
Vichy 50+ Capital Soleil Cream for Sensitive Skin


Night:
Cetaphil Cleanser
Food grade Rose Water - Toner
La Roche Posay Mineral Water Spray
Aveeno Positively Radiant intensive night cream
Cerave Facial Moisturizing Lotion- PM
Cerave Moisturizing cream
Avene Cicalfate (as needed)


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Posted 20 July 2014 - 11:39 PM

Hi Kim

 

Thanks for the update. Glad to know you are still going well. I like your attitude too - I need to readjust mine because perfect skin I neither have nor will have. My skin hasn't been perfect over the last month or so but you would not notice my acne unless you looked closely. The last decent sized inflamed spot I had was around a month ago. I'm still getting tiny papules, sometimes slightly larger papules and I still have a lot of dormant clogged pores. Oh and I keep getting those ones right at the corner of my mouth on both sides, I reckon it's from the tane though making it irritated.  Like you I think I'll just aim to not suffer from any of the large, ouchy visible ones that also tend to leave atrophic scarring.

I've got quite a large clogged pore which has popped up right next to my last big zit so I might get another. Still concerned about what I am going to do long-term. I would be happy to drop down to a maintenance dose of 10mg/day but I'm not sure if that would be a high enough dose to suppress the acne as well as the 30mg. Also wonder in the back of my mind if I should have done a full course and/or reached 120-150mg/kg. Anyhoo no point stressing, I'll keep you updated on my log.



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Posted 18 August 2014 - 12:32 AM

Just got back from my brother's wedding in one of the hottest, most humid countries in the world. Holy crap, there was no hope of keeping my makeup on. BUT - although it was certainly easier not being around too many people I knew (just family), I felt okay about it. Most of my redness is gone, and the scars I endured have faded so much, I didn't even feel like they were noticeable. It was pretty liberating to not feel like I NEEDED makeup just to look normal. And nice to jump on the sea and not care if my face got wet!

Skin is still doing great. Still paranoid every time I think I feel something, but so far, nothing has actually happened. My nose has gone back to getting a bit oily throughout the day, but I have had a shiny nose for as long as I can remember, so no shocker there. Otherwise, the oiliness has not returned anywhere else, so that makes me hopeful that the zits will stay away too as oiliness and acne generally go hand in hand for me.

Glad I did this second course, and thankful for the results I have so far.



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Posted 19 October 2014 - 05:05 PM

How's your skin going now Kim, still well I hope? Are you still on the same BP regimen? Are you back on some sort of hormonal treatment too? I'm winding down my course so am starting to think about post accutane regimen. Probably go back to some sort of regimen involving BP. Are you using the 2.5% strength BP?Wishing you well, hope life is good :)



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Posted 09 November 2014 - 07:02 PM

Just got back from my brother's wedding in one of the hottest, most humid countries in the world. Holy crap, there was no hope of keeping my makeup on. BUT - although it was certainly easier not being around too many people I knew (just family), I felt okay about it. Most of my redness is gone, and the scars I endured have faded so much, I didn't even feel like they were noticeable. It was pretty liberating to not feel like I NEEDED makeup just to look normal. And nice to jump on the sea and not care if my face got wet!

Skin is still doing great. Still paranoid every time I think I feel something, but so far, nothing has actually happened. My nose has gone back to getting a bit oily throughout the day, but I have had a shiny nose for as long as I can remember, so no shocker there. Otherwise, the oiliness has not returned anywhere else, so that makes me hopeful that the zits will stay away too as oiliness and acne generally go hand in hand for me.

Glad I did this second course, and thankful for the results I have so far.

Bump. How's it going Kim?



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Posted 11 November 2014 - 01:17 PM

Almost 6 months post tane and still doing great.

I am still using 2.5 % BP twice a day - a pea sized amount mixed into my moisturizer morning and night. I don't use any other acne products, just wash with a gentle cleanser, put on the BP moisturizer combo and done.

I am also still on Diane, an anti-androgen pill because going off it was what landed me back on accutane, so not playing that game again until I have to - hoping that is still quite a few years away.

This time last year was really bad for me. What a difference a year makes, lol.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 05:45 PM

Almost 6 months post tane and still doing great.

I am still using 2.5 % BP twice a day - a pea sized amount mixed into my moisturizer morning and night. I don't use any other acne products, just wash with a gentle cleanser, put on the BP moisturizer combo and done.

I am also still on Diane, an anti-androgen pill because going off it was what landed me back on accutane, so not playing that game again until I have to - hoping that is still quite a few years away.

This time last year was really bad for me. What a difference a year makes, lol.

 

Awesome Kim! I have sadly never got to the point of no zits. I'm past the year mark on tane. Derm appointment next week and I'll probably be off it. Petrified of what comes next. I think either a combination of BP and a retinoid or just one of them. Other than tane only Dan's reg has worked for me, but i don't want to go back to using that much BP twice a day.

 

Thanks for the response and the support over my journey. It has been a lonely road and I have had no real life support. Appreciate it, you are a gem :)



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Posted 03 December 2014 - 04:30 PM

Almost 6 months post tane and still doing great.

I am still using 2.5 % BP twice a day - a pea sized amount mixed into my moisturizer morning and night. I don't use any other acne products, just wash with a gentle cleanser, put on the BP moisturizer combo and done.

I am also still on Diane, an anti-androgen pill because going off it was what landed me back on accutane, so not playing that game again until I have to - hoping that is still quite a few years away.

This time last year was really bad for me. What a difference a year makes, lol.

Woohoo! I was just thinking the same thing...what a difference the year makes! It was right around this time last year that I made the decision to start accutane...I was so scared, but I am so happy that I did! Fingers crossed for continued clarity :) 


My Accutane log (with pictures):
 
 http://www.acne.org/...r-accutane-log/
 
26 y/o female- approx. 54kg
Absorica -40 mg, 1 daily, December 26, 2013 - February, 25, 2014
Absorica - 60 mg, 1 daily. February 26, 2014 -
Probiotic - 1 daily
Fish oil supplement w/ vit D - 1 daily

Morning:
Cetaphil cleanser
Food Grade Rose water - Toner
La Roche Posay Mineral Water Spray
Vichy 50+ Capital Soleil Cream for Sensitive Skin


Night:
Cetaphil Cleanser
Food grade Rose Water - Toner
La Roche Posay Mineral Water Spray
Aveeno Positively Radiant intensive night cream
Cerave Facial Moisturizing Lotion- PM
Cerave Moisturizing cream
Avene Cicalfate (as needed)



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