I think she has had tests. Many times.
I don't know what happened to my earlier attempt to reply. But you might look into the progestins in each of these pills and what they do as some are more androgenic than others, And the amount of estrogen. To get a clue as to what your issue might be. Maybe yaz worked for you and you need to consider what it was doing - boosting really low progesterone? Maybe you can try a bio identical progesterone cream? Boosting estrogen? Maybe try some plant estrogens like flax seed. Have ou tried flax seed and did it help or hurt? That's a clue.
Also, if you think diane helps, Diane has an additional ingredient that tends to help acne. I don't recall what it is/does. It's not allowed in the United States. Look into all that.
Also, what about sleep & stress? Vitamin D/sunlight?
Thank you for your constant help also, does mean a lot.
I've definitely had tests, as mentioned in my reply to WishClean I haven't had a "proper" hormone test just for the reason being that no doc has be willing as they say it will be inaccurate as I am on the pill. I will perhaps go to a new doctor clinic altogether. I haven't had a test of PCOS either, perhaps I will do that. Though I don't really have other symptoms..that I know of.
I guess that's my biggest issue, is my body isn't giving me anything to work off..just the acne. Which definitely is monthly hormonal and although I'm a firm believer acne and diet are one..for me, I have spent years messing around with different foods and that's certainly not my issue, nor do I have allergies etc (though I do eat what is considering best for acne suffers and big fan of my green smoothies).
I think I mentioned to you also a bit ago that I thought I had one symptom to a possible disease, as at night I turned the light on from it being pitch black and I felt dizzy and like I was going to throw up. Since, that hasn't been too prominent, could have just been an off day with my jaw issues that give me bad migraines. Though I do get terrible motion sickness.
Anyway, for now I guess I do have one question in general, is, even off the pill..will I always have to take something for hormones..is there not anyway that my hormones will balance to their optimal level by themselves...to the extent acne would not be an issue. Or will I always have to be "on something"..like an anti-androgen if that is my issue. Which is very well might be..as spiro did work for me..but I quit early because of wanting to find my real issue, and seeing as no bcp has cleared me 100% at all.
In regards to vitamin D, there hasn't been much sun around these months here in Aus, though I do take supplements, as with using magnesium oil on my skin, like in baths. Whenever the sun is out though I always make sure I soak it up as much as I can. Over the years though I noticed vitamin D didn't alter my acne whether I got less or even too much.
Sleep, I sleep so very well. In the sense I have no issues sleeping and always do get a lot of sleep. Although now you mentioned it..I often think I get too much sleep. Some days I can sleep for up to 10+ hours, I'm nearly 22 and I know I shouldn't need that much. I could probably sleep all day if I didn't have to get out of bed...
This reminds me of something I was wanting to mention, sometimes after eating lunch I almost feel like I pass out. Sort of just sleep for an hour or so after with not much choice. When I mentioned this to the doc they told me "well thats not good" but they gave me no explanation as to why my body always wanted to sleep after eating, without much choice of my own, as my digestive system is working well, definitely no obvious symptoms there so that's a bit of a mystery..
My stress levels..I have no obvious stress in my life. I don't stress about my acne. I rarely come on the boards, actually think I didn't for a whole year as acne is never on my mind. I definitely just grew accustomed to it, it's like a part of me as it just never shifted. Especially my forehead bumps, not one time in my life since getting acne have they budged. Beyond me really those bumps, they don't even seem hormonal like my other acne because they're just always there.
The past few days I've noticed a lot more acne around my neck and back, which bummed me out a bit as I rarely do get much there at all.
But yes so I'm not worried about my stress, I'm very cautious with my mind, and with my love of philosophy I do things like yoga, deep breathing, meditation etc etc
If I have a stress issue, it's not something that's physical obvious to me and I could confidently then say that I don't have a clue what stress feels like in general life. Sometimes of course, like any normal human, when something personal and emotional happens I do experience stress, it's only natural, but I deal with it..I don't let it fester and I haven't noticed any correlation with, for example having a very stressful night, then having new acne. So for now I'm not too worried. I do exercise, drink water, keep my mind off worries etc
At a loss with what to actually use on my face now also.
I suppose all I want to do is just go through some months of a clear face, while on the pill, so I can feel in control and confident coming off the pill. Additionally people have said Diane isn't legal in the US, and the way my life is going I think I might want to move there. So that's the issue really which prompted me to re-look at my acne and what I'm to do about it..because I can't be on Diane..if I can't actually get it from US docs.
Also to mention, I have tried vitex and flax seed before (not together) though I don't really remember what happened there. I have also tried saw palmetto, but I had no obvious "effects" from all. Actually I didn't give flax seed a good run because I read some things that happened to others on it that scared me off a fair bit :/
While on the pill, would these natural products even affect my hormones, as I am on the pill, would the chemicals from the pill over-ride? Should I get some flax seed oil pills and see what happens?
Sorry for all the rambles, I see that I'm at the point where I need to throw in as much information as possible, as my acne issue is one without a bold cause, the cause I know, must be, something that's not obvious enough to be caught without as much detail as possible.
And thank you for all and any, help means a lot, especially when I'm surrounded by docs who just want me to take chemicals. I've gone this far with only one chemical (the pill) to touch any others ha. Even opting for natural soap to wash my hands, over antibacterial, as I hear there's ingredients in antibacterial soaps specifically that alters hormones..I'm that cautious haha.