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I'll Never Understand Why The Severely Obese Don't Have Acne Issues

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I have seen literally HUNDREDS of obese people with beautiful clear skin. I have always been puzzled by this? They eat such a horrific and physically damaging diet which should by all logical accounts give them acne but yet this doesn't usually seem to occur. What's up with this? I would really like some kind of explanation.

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Acne is genetic and has a lot to do with hormones, skin type and immune system.

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I have seen literally HUNDREDS of obese people with beautiful clear skin. I have always been puzzled by this? They eat such a horrific and physically damaging diet which should by all logical accounts give them acne but yet this doesn't usually seem to occur. What's up with this? I would really like some kind of explanation.

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I have seen literally HUNDREDS of obese people with beautiful clear skin. I have always been puzzled by this? They eat such a horrific and physically damaging diet which should by all logical accounts give them acne but yet this doesn't usually seem to occur. What's up with this? I would really like some kind of explanation.

I think there is a connection, but just to play devil's advocate, I personally know someone who is severely obese and also has bad acne.

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Because not everyone has the genetic predisposition to developing acne. I have a thread on the gene/enzyme mutations that have Ben identified, I.e. the differences between us and them. If I wasn't about o go to sleep, I'd find and post it.

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I have seen literally HUNDREDS of obese people with beautiful clear skin. I have always been puzzled by this? They eat such a horrific and physically damaging diet which should by all logical accounts give them acne but yet this doesn't usually seem to occur. What's up with this? I would really like some kind of explanation.

I think there is a connection, but just to play devil's advocate, I personally know someone who is severely obese and also has bad acne.

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The "healthier" i eat and live, the worse i look and feel. Well my skin anyway. When i was younger, more scrawny, ate all kinds of shit, drank far too much and took God knows what - generally misabused the crap out of my body, my skin was great.

Health, diet and nutrition may be many things but they are simple. No matter what some people may think, there is still so much to learn. [One minute saturated fat is the devil, the next minute everyone is saying it was wrongly accused. Eat "healthy" whole grains - wait a second grains are actually poisonous, etc etc etc etc.]

The more i fail to respond to all these wonderful "natural" super duper healthy diets the more i see myself considering more left-field stuff like that of Ray Peat etc - even if there is a massive cultish thing going on with just about anything linked to diet or nutrition.

I actually think being obese is a sign that somebody has/had nice and healthy genetics but as with most things in life, living to excess catches up with us all. Obviously being really overweight stresses the body but the connection between cause and effect isn't always as simple as it may seem.

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The "healthier" i eat and live, the worse i look and feel. Well my skin anyway. When i was younger, more scrawny, ate all kinds of shit, drank far too much and took God knows what - generally misabused the crap out of my body, my skin was great.

Health, diet and nutrition may be many things but they are simple. No matter what some people may think, there is still so much to learn. [One minute saturated fat is the devil, the next minute everyone is saying it was wrongly accused. Eat "healthy" whole grains - wait a second grains are actually poisonous, etc etc etc etc.]

The more i fail to respond to all these wonderful "natural" super duper healthy diets the more i see myself considering more left-field stuff like that of Ray Peat etc - even if there is a massive cultish thing going on with just about anything linked to diet or nutrition.

I actually think being obese is a sign that somebody has/had nice and healthy genetics but as with most things in life, living to excess catches up with us all. Obviously being really overweight stresses the body but the connection between cause and effect isn't always as simple as it may seem.

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The "healthier" i eat and live, the worse i look and feel. Well my skin anyway. When i was younger, more scrawny, ate all kinds of shit, drank far too much and took God knows what - generally misabused the crap out of my body, my skin was great.

Health, diet and nutrition may be many things but they are simple. No matter what some people may think, there is still so much to learn. [One minute saturated fat is the devil, the next minute everyone is saying it was wrongly accused. Eat "healthy" whole grains - wait a second grains are actually poisonous, etc etc etc etc.]

The more i fail to respond to all these wonderful "natural" super duper healthy diets the more i see myself considering more left-field stuff like that of Ray Peat etc - even if there is a massive cultish thing going on with just about anything linked to diet or nutrition.

I actually think being obese is a sign that somebody has/had nice and healthy genetics but as with most things in life, living to excess catches up with us all. Obviously being really overweight stresses the body but the connection between cause and effect isn't always as simple as it may seem.

Just eat mostly real, whole nutrient rich foods. Not crap made in a big factory by big food. Really, if it ones from any of our biggest brand names, avoid it.

Whole grains are better than the reined grain crap that fills our diets now days. But that doesnt make them good. they are not equal. Today's wheat is the devil, unless prepared the old fashioned way with long raising/ fermentation as in sourdough bread. But The benefits of oats and buckwheat, for example, far outweigh the negatives inherent in seeds. Either way, grains should not be the base of your pyramid and I wouldn't routinely have more than one serving per day.

Obese people are possibly adapted to survive famine. That is the case in people more prone to developing diabetes.

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The "healthier" i eat and live, the worse i look and feel. Well my skin anyway. When i was younger, more scrawny, ate all kinds of shit, drank far too much and took God knows what - generally misabused the crap out of my body, my skin was great.

Health, diet and nutrition may be many things but they are simple. No matter what some people may think, there is still so much to learn. [One minute saturated fat is the devil, the next minute everyone is saying it was wrongly accused. Eat "healthy" whole grains - wait a second grains are actually poisonous, etc etc etc etc.]

The more i fail to respond to all these wonderful "natural" super duper healthy diets the more i see myself considering more left-field stuff like that of Ray Peat etc - even if there is a massive cultish thing going on with just about anything linked to diet or nutrition.

I actually think being obese is a sign that somebody has/had nice and healthy genetics but as with most things in life, living to excess catches up with us all. Obviously being really overweight stresses the body but the connection between cause and effect isn't always as simple as it may seem.

Just eat mostly real, whole nutrient rich foods. Not crap made in a big factory by big food. Really, if it ones from any of our biggest brand names, avoid it.

Whole grains are better than the reined grain crap that fills our diets now days. But that doesnt make them good. they are not equal. Today's wheat is the devil, unless prepared the old fashioned way with long raising/ fermentation as in sourdough bread. But The benefits of oats and buckwheat, for example, far outweigh the negatives inherent in seeds. Either way, grains should not be the base of your pyramid and I wouldn't routinely have more than one serving per day.

Obese people are possibly adapted to survive famine. That is the case in people more prone to developing diabetes.

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I too have noticed a connection between obese people and no acne --- but I have also noticed a connection between people who eat @#$% and still have clear complexions...something which is often brought up by angry fed-up acne sufferers on this site. Here is my take on this.

Acne sufferers usually very quickly consciously or unconsciously notice a connection between foods and breakouts. I remember as a teen noting this and avoiding chocolate and milk because they immediately caused flare-ups. I also began noting that if I ate healthier my skin seemed to do better...not clear just better. Consequently over the years I maintained a healthy weight because I very consciously was trying to do everything I could to avoid flare-ups. Yes, because I have struggled with severe acne I became obsessed with diet as a means to control flare-ups...but it helped so I continued. Flash forward decades and if you compared me to others my age you would say I looked like someone in their 20's physically, whereas most of my peers are overweight and suffering from diabetes and other internal inflammatory diseases. They may not have acne but they have far worse diseases!

Why don't they have acne? Well, they were never predisposed to it genetically. They could keep on eating whatever they liked with seemingly no consequences...so they did. When we'd go out to eat they'd go for the heavy cream based sauces and I would be eating a huge salad. They drank lots...because nothing caused a flare-up. If it had you'd better believe they would have stopped because acne is so embarrasing! But their bodies did not flame up this way...they were not sensitive to androgens genetically (like me) so they kept on eating whatever they wanted and too much. But all this inflammatory eating did catch up with them...believe me! They have far worse problems and take far worse drugs with awful side effects.

Yes, I take 2 meds for my acne/rosacea (low dose spiro and extremely low dose anti-inflamatory dose doxy) but they have no side effects other than I have to pee an hour after taking spiro because it is a mild diuretic.

Here's something to console yourself with if you suffer from chronic acne. Your early efforts to eat right in order to manage your skin's inflammatory response (acne) will pay you back tenfold later when you are healthy, strong, fit and able to do marathons like me...and I am 62!

Those people who ate @#$% and had clear skin will keep on eating @#$% until their bodies break down in some other more devastating way.

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I know what you are talking about.. My Mom had severe acne growing up and scarred quite a bit. No accutane and stuff like that those days. But she follows an extremely healthy diet for fear of getting acne again. She is about your age and takes no meds. My mother in law has clear skin never had a blemish, so she pretty much ate what she wanted..she does not gain weight very easily either so it was the best of both worlds, but the chronic poor diet caught up and caught up bad..she suffers from diabetes and high blood pressure.

I would say please think of acne as a chance our body signals to us to lead a better life before we have way worse illnesses.

I too have noticed a connection between obese people and no acne --- but I have also noticed a connection between people who eat @#$% and still have clear complexions...something which is often brought up by angry fed-up acne sufferers on this site. Here is my take on this.

Acne sufferers usually very quickly consciously or unconsciously notice a connection between foods and breakouts. I remember as a teen noting this and avoiding chocolate and milk because they immediately caused flare-ups. I also began noting that if I ate healthier my skin seemed to do better...not clear just better. Consequently over the years I maintained a healthy weight because I very consciously was trying to do everything I could to avoid flare-ups. Yes, because I have struggled with severe acne I became obsessed with diet as a means to control flare-ups...but it helped so I continued. Flash forward decades and if you compared me to others my age you would say I looked like someone in their 20's physically, whereas most of my peers are overweight and suffering from diabetes and other internal inflammatory diseases. They may not have acne but they have far worse diseases!

Why don't they have acne? Well, they were never predisposed to it genetically. They could keep on eating whatever they liked with seemingly no consequences...so they did. When we'd go out to eat they'd go for the heavy cream based sauces and I would be eating a huge salad. They drank lots...because nothing caused a flare-up. If it had you'd better believe they would have stopped because acne is so embarrasing! But their bodies did not flame up this way...they were not sensitive to androgens genetically (like me) so they kept on eating whatever they wanted and too much. But all this inflammatory eating did catch up with them...believe me! They have far worse problems and take far worse drugs with awful side effects.

Yes, I take 2 meds for my acne/rosacea (low dose spiro and extremely low dose anti-inflamatory dose doxy) but they have no side effects other than I have to pee an hour after taking spiro because it is a mild diuretic.

Here's something to console yourself with if you suffer from chronic acne. Your early efforts to eat right in order to manage your skin's inflammatory response (acne) will pay you back tenfold later when you are healthy, strong, fit and able to do marathons like me...and I am 62!

Those people who ate @#$% and had clear skin will keep on eating @#$% until their bodies break down in some other more devastating way.

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If poor health doesn't affect your hormones it affects something else, whatever part of your body is most vulnerable. This is always going to be different. It's like being in a car crash and asking why you lost your leg, and the other guy lost his arm.

There's probably an overweight forum somewhere with someone asking "Why doesn't this person with acne gain weight? HOW DO THEY DO IT?"

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