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Posted 28 October 2013 - 10:16 AM

Hi everyone,

 

I've had this on-again off-again thing with sugar. I have a major sweet tooth, to put it lightly. But I want it gone. I'm getting rid of sweets in ALL forms: no baked goods, no soda, no diet soda, no ice cream, no sweetened starbucks, no fruit, no sweet potatoes, no honey, agave... nothing sweet. 

 

This is obviously the most extreme version of a "no sugar" elimination, but all my past efforts of no-sugar have failed, and I think it's in part due to allowing myself to have "natural sweets" things while going through this process... but after I stop having cravings, I'll add in things like fruits and sweet potatoes. 

 

If you're interested in doing some variation of sugar detox, I'd love the support. I started a thread in personal regimen logs and maybe you could post in my log and it'll be dual/multiple-person log on going no-sugar. The log currently has a few ramblings on going no-dairy as well, but I'm mainly focusing on sugar at this point (having no dairy is easy for me now). 

 

Please let me know! We could also just have this be an update thread as well. But I'm not interested in debating back and forth on whether or not diet affects acne. Just a support thread. Makes no difference where the thread is located.


Edited by Vanbelle, 31 October 2013 - 05:43 PM.


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 06:46 PM

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 01:00 AM

Actual adults have a "fat tooth" not a "sweet tooth" commonly found in children less than 12. Even though you can temporarly satisfy your craving with sugary items; the body is never satisfied therefore requests more. Its the fat content we crave. Why do you think so many people are addicted to fast food, and other food options they know are wrong and will kill them eventually, but eat it anyway? Its because they cannot overcome their fat tooth cravings.

 

 I learned this from a health care conference for healthcare professionals such as myself.

If you try to eliminate the sugar your body will crave more fat, and or attain its sugar from fructose. Now, that becomes a problem if you have a fructose intolerance/sensitivity as I do. But you are choosing to eliminate that too...

 

Not saying this can't help but... its extreme and the odds are against you.

 

Let me give you an analogy so to speak.

 

One could assume that the reason patient X has Diabetes type I because he drinks a Coke a day since he was 5 years old.This assumption is wrong because Diabetes Type I is autoimmune disorder in which the body does not produce insulin (its congential-born with it). Eliminating sugar will do nothing for this patient- they will continue to have high blood sugar  from lack of insulin. The same goes for Diabetes type II often mistakenly reffered to as "sugar diabetes". Elimminating sugar *might help* but will not resolve the problem. Diabetes type II is caused from the body's own tissues being resistant to its own insulin or from lack of insulin production. Education on nutrition is a must for both clients as the majority of blood sugar rise comes from carbs, not sugar, especially the empty simple carbohydrates. Eliminating these will help, but wont cure. Its chronic.

 

Now, your plan to me anyway sounds like my analogy. Sounds convincing, and good, but its not entirely correct. Elminating the junk will help, but all sugar is not practical; o healthy. Your body runs off it; it needs it.

 

It also still doesn't address the underlying problem. Which will be evident if you continue to break out.

Eat nutrient dense foods in moderation, skip the processed goods. Heck, white bread along has more sugar than a snickers candy bar. Choose wisely and eat smart.

So, just a for warning.


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 06:09 AM

I'm already off dairy and gluten, so trust me I'm already carrying a big cross

 

On sugar I do avoid all commercial goods (of course, that crappy white flour they use is a big no no for me, and in my opinion MUCH MUCH worse for you then a piece of fruit), but I do bake my own things and I cut the sugar by 50% in all recipes by substituting with xylitol half of the amount called for and of course I limit what I eat daily of these home made baked goods.

 

I do not avoid fruits, I rotate and only have 1-2 servings daily, I really focus on eating vegetables

 

So this works for me, moderation but not complete avoidance of sugar

 

But I applaud your efforts, give it a try and see if it helps your skin...but I avoid enough and I won't be joining you on your quest!



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Posted 30 October 2013 - 06:37 PM

I would like to be a no sugar buddy lol. I've been considering it for a while but I love my sweets. I'm currently doing a candida cleanse so its time to cut the sugar. I'm not very good at navigating the site yet. Could you tell me how to get to the sugar free personal regimine log? I went on started looking through posts but I figured there's probably an easier way just to follow your postings. Thanks!

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Posted 31 October 2013 - 09:49 AM

Hi everyone,

 

I've had this on-again off-again thing with sugar. I have a major sweet tooth, to put it lightly. But I want it gone. I'm getting rid of sweets in ALL forms: no baked goods, no soda, no diet soda, no ice cream, no sweetened starbucks, no fruit, no sweet potatoes, no honey, agave... nothing sweet. 

 

This is obviously the most extreme version of a "no sugar" elimination, but all my past efforts of no-sugar have failed, and I think it's in part due to allowing myself to have sweet things WHILE going through this process, but after I stop having cravings, I'll add in things like fruits and sweet potatoes. 

 

If you're interested in doing some variation of sugar detox, I'd love the support. I started a thread in personal regimen logs and maybe you could post in my log and it'll be dual/multiple-person log on going no-sugar. The log currently has a few ramblings on going no-dairy as well, but I'm mainly focusing on sugar at this point (having no dairy is easy for me now). 

 

Please let me know! We could also just have this be an update thread as well. But I'm not interested in debating back and forth on whether or not diet affects acne. Just a support thread. Makes no difference where the thread is located.

I will just say this is very illogical.


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Posted 31 October 2013 - 01:25 PM

most here already do limit sugar consumption. That's basic to health and acne.


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

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Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

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Posted 31 October 2013 - 05:15 PM

Actual adults have a "fat tooth" not a "sweet tooth" commonly found in children less than 12. Even though you can temporarly satisfy your craving with sugary items; the body is never satisfied therefore requests more. Its the fat content we crave. Why do you think so many people are addicted to fast food, and other food options they know are wrong and will kill them eventually, but eat it anyway? Its because they cannot overcome their fat tooth cravings.

 

 I learned this from a health care conference for healthcare professionals such as myself.

If you try to eliminate the sugar your body will crave more fat, and or attain its sugar from fructose. Now, that becomes a problem if you have a fructose intolerance/sensitivity as I do. But you are choosing to eliminate that too...

 

Not saying this can't help but... its extreme and the odds are against you.

 

Let me give you an analogy so to speak.

 

One could assume that the reason patient X has Diabetes type I because he drinks a Coke a day since he was 5 years old.This assumption is wrong because Diabetes Type I is autoimmune disorder in which the body does not produce insulin (its congential-born with it). Eliminating sugar will do nothing for this patient- they will continue to have high blood sugar  from lack of insulin. The same goes for Diabetes type II often mistakenly reffered to as "sugar diabetes". Elimminating sugar *might help* but will not resolve the problem. Diabetes type II is caused from the body's own tissues being resistant to its own insulin or from lack of insulin production. Education on nutrition is a must for both clients as the majority of blood sugar rise comes from carbs, not sugar, especially the empty simple carbohydrates. Eliminating these will help, but wont cure. Its chronic.

 

Now, your plan to me anyway sounds like my analogy. Sounds convincing, and good, but its not entirely correct. Elminating the junk will help, but all sugar is not practical; o healthy. Your body runs off it; it needs it.

 

It also still doesn't address the underlying problem. Which will be evident if you continue to break out.

Eat nutrient dense foods in moderation, skip the processed goods. Heck, white bread along has more sugar than a snickers candy bar. Choose wisely and eat smart.

So, just a for warning.

 

Sorry, not interested in a lecture. I've given up debating or discussing diet with others as everyone seems up their own ass on their opinions, which admittedly, you came off as.Some points you make are valid, others I disagree entirely. Regardless of how certified or educated you say you are. This was not meant to incite the opposition to respond, so this is completely inappropriate. Like I said in my original post, this is a support thread.

 

By the way, blood sugar rise comes from sugar. Monosaccharides. I'm sure you realize carbohydrates are broken down into oligosaccharides and then monosaccharides.  I also eat low carb high fat already (cyclically I get a large low-fructose high glucose bolus from starches), and I'm aware of fructose malabsorption. That's very widespread. The body will attain glucose from gluconeogenesis if need be. 

 

You have Diabetes Type I and Type II backwards. 


 

most here already do limit sugar consumption. That's basic to health and acne.

 

Most "here"? As if this isn't a huge forum, and many or most of whom visit this site do not have some special diet for their skin. Color me in a sour mood but this post was inappropriate as well. 

 

Hi everyone,

 

I've had this on-again off-again thing with sugar. I have a major sweet tooth, to put it lightly. But I want it gone. I'm getting rid of sweets in ALL forms: no baked goods, no soda, no diet soda, no ice cream, no sweetened starbucks, no fruit, no sweet potatoes, no honey, agave... nothing sweet. 

 

This is obviously the most extreme version of a "no sugar" elimination, but all my past efforts of no-sugar have failed, and I think it's in part due to allowing myself to have sweet things WHILE going through this process, but after I stop having cravings, I'll add in things like fruits and sweet potatoes. 

 

If you're interested in doing some variation of sugar detox, I'd love the support. I started a thread in personal regimen logs and maybe you could post in my log and it'll be dual/multiple-person log on going no-sugar. The log currently has a few ramblings on going no-dairy as well, but I'm mainly focusing on sugar at this point (having no dairy is easy for me now). 

 

Please let me know! We could also just have this be an update thread as well. But I'm not interested in debating back and forth on whether or not diet affects acne. Just a support thread. Makes no difference where the thread is located.

I will just say this is very illogical.

 

I'm disheartened to only receive negative responses but found this to be the least productive. 


Edited by Vanbelle, 31 October 2013 - 05:41 PM.


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Posted 01 November 2013 - 08:14 AM

most here already do limit sugar consumption. That's basic to health and acne.

 

Limit and moderate yes, i totally agree.

 

However, in the original post, a reference was made to cutting fruit out. Really?

 

Cutting out a highly nutrient dense food item isn't healthy. Being overly restrictive in any sense isn't healthy.

 

For sure i can understand if someone has an intolerance to fruit then by all means do what you go to do.

 

I generally think too many people go to extremes when it comes to seeking out solutins to acne. I can understand it drives us crazy but the answer is often somewhere in the middle.

 

Balance, sustainability, moderation.

 

The original post is none of these things.


Edited by o Havoc o, 01 November 2013 - 08:15 AM.

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 08:29 AM

Actual adults have a "fat tooth" not a "sweet tooth" commonly found in children less than 12. Even though you can temporarly satisfy your craving with sugary items; the body is never satisfied therefore requests more. Its the fat content we crave. Why do you think so many people are addicted to fast food, and other food options they know are wrong and will kill them eventually, but eat it anyway? Its because they cannot overcome their fat tooth cravings.

 

 I learned this from a health care conference for healthcare professionals such as myself.

If you try to eliminate the sugar your body will crave more fat, and or attain its sugar from fructose. Now, that becomes a problem if you have a fructose intolerance/sensitivity as I do. But you are choosing to eliminate that too...

 

Not saying this can't help but... its extreme and the odds are against you.

 

Let me give you an analogy so to speak.

 

One could assume that the reason patient X has Diabetes type I because he drinks a Coke a day since he was 5 years old.This assumption is wrong because Diabetes Type I is autoimmune disorder in which the body does not produce insulin (its congential-born with it). Eliminating sugar will do nothing for this patient- they will continue to have high blood sugar  from lack of insulin. The same goes for Diabetes type II often mistakenly reffered to as "sugar diabetes". Elimminating sugar *might help* but will not resolve the problem. Diabetes type II is caused from the body's own tissues being resistant to its own insulin or from lack of insulin production. Education on nutrition is a must for both clients as the majority of blood sugar rise comes from carbs, not sugar, especially the empty simple carbohydrates. Eliminating these will help, but wont cure. Its chronic.

 

Now, your plan to me anyway sounds like my analogy. Sounds convincing, and good, but its not entirely correct. Elminating the junk will help, but all sugar is not practical; o healthy. Your body runs off it; it needs it.

 

It also still doesn't address the underlying problem. Which will be evident if you continue to break out.

Eat nutrient dense foods in moderation, skip the processed goods. Heck, white bread along has more sugar than a snickers candy bar. Choose wisely and eat smart.

So, just a for warning.

 

People get addicted to fast foods because of the salt and sugar content, not the fat.

 

When high amounts of sugar are consumed the brain releases a load of feel good checmicals. This is where the addiciton comes from.


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Posted 01 November 2013 - 11:33 AM

.You had seemed disappointed that no one was interested in joining you.  I posted one reason why.  Another would be, hopefully, that most recognize that extreme dieting is a bad idea.  Learn to eat right. For life.

 

To take offense at my post is pretty extreme, beyond a 'sour mood.'  Sounds like you need to alter your diet to better help with mood.  Avoiding glycemic highs and lows will certainly help.  Replacing the junk with nutrients will also help.


Edited by alternativista, 01 November 2013 - 11:39 AM.

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[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 02:36 PM

I could be a no sugar buddy, but I've already gone about 2 months without it, and it is not so difficult for me anymore. I do eat A LOT of fruit though, and I'd like to cut down on that. I'm not sure if the amount of fruit I'm eating is actually a problem, though.



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Posted 02 November 2013 - 08:32 AM

I could be a no sugar buddy, but I've already gone about 2 months without it, and it is not so difficult for me anymore. I do eat A LOT of fruit though, and I'd like to cut down on that. I'm not sure if the amount of fruit I'm eating is actually a problem, though.

 

I changed my log to "No Sugar Group" in the logs if you want to post! Thanks!



most here already do limit sugar consumption. That's basic to health and acne.

 

Limit and moderate yes, i totally agree.

 

However, in the original post, a reference was made to cutting fruit out. Really?

 

Cutting out a highly nutrient dense food item isn't healthy. Being overly restrictive in any sense isn't healthy.

 

For sure i can understand if someone has an intolerance to fruit then by all means do what you go to do.

 

I generally think too many people go to extremes when it comes to seeking out solutins to acne. I can understand it drives us crazy but the answer is often somewhere in the middle.

 

Balance, sustainability, moderation.

 

The original post is none of these things.

 

For some reason people think fruit is so great. It is unnecessary and not extreme to not eat it for a brief period of time while trying to get a handle on what consider sugar to be addictive. For years I've tried to get sugar out but end up binging on fruit. I said obviously it was extreme to not eat anything sweet, and would try adding the whole natural foods in later. Seems reasonable to me. Definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over. 

 

It is sustainable if you want it to be, but as I said, I would add things in later. 



.You had seemed disappointed that no one was interested in joining you.  I posted one reason why.  Another would be, hopefully, that most recognize that extreme dieting is a bad idea.  Learn to eat right. For life.

 

To take offense at my post is pretty extreme, beyond a 'sour mood.'  Sounds like you need to alter your diet to better help with mood.  Avoiding glycemic highs and lows will certainly help.  Replacing the junk with nutrients will also help.

 

I take offense to many of your posts. I've seen you posting for years. You contribute but also come off arrogant. Since your diet is so on point as you say it is, I have no dietary suggestions for altering mood. Maybe light up every once in a while?


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 01:40 PM

It's a bit unrealistic to completely cut out sugar given Western diets, but I wish you luck. Any time I tried to do that, my blood sugar drops abruptly and I feel weak all the time. I have some sugar alternatives, like honey and sweet potatoes, and use a glucose-regulating supplement to make sure my insulin doesn't spike.


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Posted 03 November 2013 - 07:07 AM


.You had seemed disappointed that no one was interested in joining you.  I posted one reason why.  Another would be, hopefully, that most recognize that extreme dieting is a bad idea.  Learn to eat right. For life.
 
To take offense at my post is pretty extreme, beyond a 'sour mood.'  Sounds like you need to alter your diet to better help with mood.  Avoiding glycemic highs and lows will certainly help.  Replacing the junk with nutrients will also help.


 
I take offense to many of your posts. I've seen you posting for years. You contribute but also come off arrogant. Since your diet is so on point as you say it is, I have no dietary suggestions for altering mood. Maybe light up every once in a while?[/quote]


.????? Puzzlement over each of the above sentences. Although my point about mood has been illustrated once again.
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Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 07:35 AM

She means that you come across as passive-aggressive and arrogant in most of your posts. But since you come across as you already know-it-all, that your opinions are facts, and that your diet is spot on, then there are obviously no further dietary changes that you could possibly make in order to lighten up your mood, since you already have that area optimised. I don't really see the potential puzzlement there.


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Posted 03 November 2013 - 08:02 AM

She means that you come across as passive-aggressive and arrogant in most of your posts. But since you come across as you already know-it-all, that your opinions are facts, and that your diet is spot on, then there are obviously no further dietary changes that you could possibly make in order to lighten up your mood, since you already have that area optimised. I don't really see the potential puzzlement there.


Well you did explain that a bit more coherently.. Although its still a puzzlement coming from someone who over reacted to nearly every post made here.
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Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 08:55 AM

I think it's great that you want to limit your sugar intake, but that doesn't mean removing foods that are sweet altogether. Get rid of the nasty obvious things like soda (as you said you were) but other foods such as sweet potatoes are a really good staple of a nutritious diet. But then again, they are not necessary.

 

I'll definitely take this up with you because for the past two-weeks I have drank nothing but soda at work and my skin is paying the price. It went from looking quite radiant to really dull and lifeless. sad.png

 

This forum in particular has a lot of the 'know-it-all' attitudes you described. In reality, nobody here is qualified or experienced enough to tell you something is 100% true or false - but they do think they are. I have come across a lot of the less helpful characters that just spout information/'facts' rather than genuinely wanting to support somebody.

 

@alternativista Notice how you just said CookieJ explained that more coherently. That is suggesting that what OP said was not coherent which sounds quite indirectly snide. Some of your comments can be very backhanded and passive-aggressive - I have noticed it frequently in the past. Not to offend you, but I am somewhat glad it isn't only me that has noticed this.

 

Although its still a puzzlement coming from someone who over reacted to nearly every post made here. 

That comment is also largely exaggerated and is suggesting that the OP is acting erratically when in reality, that's not the case. That is another very passive-aggressive trait. Making somebody or a group of people believe that they are acting in a way that they are not. 



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Posted 03 November 2013 - 10:34 AM

It's a bit unrealistic to completely cut out sugar given Western diets, but I wish you luck. Any time I tried to do that, my blood sugar drops abruptly and I feel weak all the time. I have some sugar alternatives, like honey and sweet potatoes, and use a glucose-regulating supplement to make sure my insulin doesn't spike.

 

I once tried to go low-carb for the very first time a couple years ago, and I nearly fainted! I don't think it's safe for everyone to try to eliminate all carbohydrates if they haven't tried so in the past. Sweet potatoes are a great option, and so is rice, etc. It's a personal decision to do what I'm doing. 

 

When I first started reading about low-carb I thought it was nutso, and it made me weak and faint too, probably due to blood sugar crashes. I've tried many times in the past and now I finally am finding it not difficult at all. I've been cook 90% of my food at home, some days I throw in rice and potatoes, some days I don't. And my energy is stable, better than ever. 



I think it's great that you want to limit your sugar intake, but that doesn't mean removing foods that are sweet altogether. Get rid of the nasty obvious things like soda (as you said you were) but other foods such as sweet potatoes are a really good staple of a nutritious diet. But then again, they are not necessary.

 

I'll definitely take this up with you because for the past two-weeks I have drank nothing but soda at work and my skin is paying the price. It went from looking quite radiant to really dull and lifeless. sad.png

 

This forum in particular has a lot of the 'know-it-all' attitudes you described. In reality, nobody here is qualified or experienced enough to tell you something is 100% true or false - but they do think they are. I have come across a lot of the less helpful characters that just spout information/'facts' rather than genuinely wanting to support somebody.

 

@alternativista Notice how you just said CookieJ explained that more coherently. That is suggesting that what OP said was not coherent and sounds quite indirectly snide. Some of your comments can be very backhanded and passive-aggressive - I have noticed it frequently in the past. Not to offend you, but I am somewhat glad it isn't only me that has noticed this.

 

Although its still a puzzlement coming from someone who over reacted to nearly every post made here. 

That comment is also largely exaggerated and is suggesting that the OP is acting erratically when in reality, that's not the case. That is another very passive-aggressive trait. Making somebody or a group of people believe that they are acting in a way that they are not. 

 

 

She means that you come across as passive-aggressive and arrogant in most of your posts. But since you come across as you already know-it-all, that your opinions are facts, and that your diet is spot on, then there are obviously no further dietary changes that you could possibly make in order to lighten up your mood, since you already have that area optimised. I don't really see the potential puzzlement there.

 

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 02:34 AM

"You have Diabetes Type I and Type II backwards."

 

No i most certaintly do not. DM I is autoimmune. You do NOT produce insulin. Its congential and usually idenfitied at an early age, hence the name juvenil diabetes. THis is not longer used as you can imagine due to the increase in DM II in young children from increased childhood obesity.

 

DM II is insulin resistance exhibited by the tissues therefore insulin does not lower the blood glucose level and blood sugars stay elevated causing a whole host of problems long term. DM II can also be from pancreatic damage at the Islet of Langerhans, specifically to the beta cells resulting in decreased insulin production

 

I am not wrong.

 

 

My info was my point of view. Sugar tooth vs fat tooth was meant to be informative, not a lecture or a debate; the information was from a health care conference. Do not blame me if you do not get it. The researcher is very knowledgeable, has written a couple of decent books, and is a keynote speaker in many conferences.I would tend to believe him. I believe a big mac has more fat than sugar content.. thefore i would be more inclined to understand why his point is correct. I read your post on the same day i went to the conference.

 

 

"most here already do limit sugar consumption. That's basic to health and acne."

 

Do not make that assumption.

 

Sugar like other dietary things can lead to acne. But then you have to consult the source, amount, any added hormones/contaiments in the foods that contain sugar, and whether the body has metabolic issues. Lots of variables. I understand this isn't a debate/lecture, but thats how people learn through different points of view and knowledge.

 

Good luck on your crusade, no sarcasm intended.


Actual adults have a "fat tooth" not a "sweet tooth" commonly found in children less than 12. Even though you can temporarly satisfy your craving with sugary items; the body is never satisfied therefore requests more. Its the fat content we crave. Why do you think so many people are addicted to fast food, and other food options they know are wrong and will kill them eventually, but eat it anyway? Its because they cannot overcome their fat tooth cravings.

 

 I learned this from a health care conference for healthcare professionals such as myself.

If you try to eliminate the sugar your body will crave more fat, and or attain its sugar from fructose. Now, that becomes a problem if you have a fructose intolerance/sensitivity as I do. But you are choosing to eliminate that too...

 

Not saying this can't help but... its extreme and the odds are against you.

 

Let me give you an analogy so to speak.

 

One could assume that the reason patient X has Diabetes type I because he drinks a Coke a day since he was 5 years old.This assumption is wrong because Diabetes Type I is autoimmune disorder in which the body does not produce insulin (its congential-born with it). Eliminating sugar will do nothing for this patient- they will continue to have high blood sugar  from lack of insulin. The same goes for Diabetes type II often mistakenly reffered to as "sugar diabetes". Elimminating sugar *might help* but will not resolve the problem. Diabetes type II is caused from the body's own tissues being resistant to its own insulin or from lack of insulin production. Education on nutrition is a must for both clients as the majority of blood sugar rise comes from carbs, not sugar, especially the empty simple carbohydrates. Eliminating these will help, but wont cure. Its chronic.

 

Now, your plan to me anyway sounds like my analogy. Sounds convincing, and good, but its not entirely correct. Elminating the junk will help, but all sugar is not practical; o healthy. Your body runs off it; it needs it.

 

It also still doesn't address the underlying problem. Which will be evident if you continue to break out.

Eat nutrient dense foods in moderation, skip the processed goods. Heck, white bread along has more sugar than a snickers candy bar. Choose wisely and eat smart.

So, just a for warning.

 

People get addicted to fast foods because of the salt and sugar content, not the fat.

 

When high amounts of sugar are consumed the brain releases a load of feel good checmicals. This is where the addiciton comes from.

 

 

 

 

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http://nutrition.mcd...ritionfacts.pdf

 

 

Its the fat content. It drives people to eat more and keep coming back. Probably aided by the adding of chemicals like in cigarettes that make them addicting.

 

 

Joe Piscatella was the speaker.

 

http://www.joepiscatella.com/

 

 

http://www.amazon.co...a/dp/0894804316


Edited by k3tchup, 06 November 2013 - 02:36 AM.

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