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Hey guys :)

My oil is starting to bother me more and more every day. I've been researching the androgen scientifics so I'm now looking for some supplement which will work as an antiandrogen, I'm just wondering whether you guys know any awhile are safe and relatively inexpensive.

Thank you :)


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I've researched Saw Palmetto, and I actually attempted to buy it today, but the problem is I'm currently on a course of antibiotics called Oxytetracycline, so I was wondering if anyone had any information on if the antibiotics would react/not work with the Saw Palmetto?

Thank you :)


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Antibiotics can be safely used with antiandrogen drugs or herbs.

Saw Palmetto is a good one, however, I always recommend combining saw palmetto with another type of antiandrogen herb, simply because saw palmetto by itself can be very dehydrating.

Try one day on saw palmetto, the next day on a different herb such as stinging nettle or pumpkin seed oil.

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Antibiotics can be safely used with antiandrogen drugs or herbs.

Saw Palmetto is a good one, however, I always recommend combining saw palmetto with another type of antiandrogen herb, simply because saw palmetto by itself can be very dehydrating.

Try one day on saw palmetto, the next day on a different herb such as stinging nettle or pumpkin seed oil.


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Antibiotics can be safely used with antiandrogen drugs or herbs.

Saw Palmetto is a good one, however, I always recommend combining saw palmetto with another type of antiandrogen herb, simply because saw palmetto by itself can be very dehydrating.

Try one day on saw palmetto, the next day on a different herb such as stinging nettle or pumpkin seed oil.

Thank you so much for replying! smile.png

I asked my mum to go and buy me some, but she went into a pharmacy and apparently this girl told her that I shouldn't take my antibiotics and the antiandrogen. I really don't want to be oily for when I go to china in a months time, so I need to persuade her..

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When I was a teenager, I would try really hard to convince my parents of something like this. But if that didn't work, I would eventually end up doing what I wanted, whether or not I had their permission.

Go buy it yourself.

I live in the UK, is it allowed for me to go and buy multivitamins here?

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Antibiotics can be safely used with antiandrogen drugs or herbs.

Saw Palmetto is a good one, however, I always recommend combining saw palmetto with another type of antiandrogen herb, simply because saw palmetto by itself can be very dehydrating.

Try one day on saw palmetto, the next day on a different herb such as stinging nettle or pumpkin seed oil.

Thank you so much for replying! smile.png

I asked my mum to go and buy me some, but she went into a pharmacy and apparently this girl told her that I shouldn't take my antibiotics and the antiandrogen. I really don't want to be oily for when I go to china in a months time, so I need to persuade her..

Any suggestions? sad.png


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Vitamin C supplements have decreased my oil production way more than saw palmetto ever did.

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Vitamin C supplements have decreased my oil production way more than saw palmetto ever did.

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Vitamin C supplements have decreased my oil production way more than saw palmetto ever did.

How much are you taking?

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Anyone got any answers to my question above?

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If you don't want to take herb capsules, there are


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Vitamin C supplements have decreased my oil production way more than saw palmetto ever did.


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  • Accutane 5mg/day
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  • Cetaphil gentle skin cleanser 2x/day

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Vitamin C supplements have decreased my oil production way more than saw palmetto ever did.

How?

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Anyone got any answers to my question above?

I would advise against taking saw palmetto if you're male, especially if you're still going through puberty. I'm well past puberty and even I'm afraid to try it due to the estrogenic effects I've heard about in other males.


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Hang on a minute? If acne-free/oily skin free people don't have oily skin, surely that'd mean they don't have high testerone like me? And I'm sure their penises are growing? Maybe the capsules are okay? So confused!

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There are also thousands if not millions of mens who take prescription anti-DHT medications such as Propecia and Finasteride (to treat balding), and are no worse for the wear.

Propecia is waaaay more potent than saw palmetto.

There was a saw palmetto study using 320mg of saw palmetto daily in MALES and it improved their acne. "Man boobs" was not a reported side effect. You have to be taking a hell of a lot of saw palmetto, which isn't really that strong, to get anything close to that side effect.


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There are also thousands if not millions of mens who take prescription anti-DHT medications such as Propecia and Finasteride (to treat balding), and are no worse for the wear.

Propecia is waaaay more potent than saw palmetto.

There was a saw palmetto study using 320mg of saw palmetto daily in MALES and it improved their acne. "Man boobs" was not a reported side effect. You have to be taking a hell of a lot of saw palmetto, which isn't really that strong, to get anything close to that side effect.

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There are also thousands if not millions of mens who take prescription anti-DHT medications such as Propecia and Finasteride (to treat balding), and are no worse for the wear.

Propecia is waaaay more potent than saw palmetto.

There was a saw palmetto study using 320mg of saw palmetto daily in MALES and it improved their acne. "Man boobs" was not a reported side effect. You have to be taking a hell of a lot of saw palmetto, which isn't really that strong, to get anything close to that side effect.

Plenty of men experience sexual side effects from Propecia and Finasteride. Even if it's not always gynecomastia, they may experience loss of libido or erectile dysfunction. The men who encounter those side effects are probably in the minority, but it's still something to consider. I would warn someone about the potentially harsh side effects of Accutane too, even though the people who experience those really bad side effects are probably in the minority.


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Sure, but where are you getting this info that men are experiencing sexual side effects at low doses (e.g. 320mg) of saw palmetto, when saw palmetto's potency is nowhere near Propecia?

The anecdotal reports I've heard of side effects of saw palmetto are men taking 1000mg or more a day.

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Sure, but where are you getting this info that men are experiencing sexual side effects at low doses (e.g. 320mg) of saw palmetto, when saw palmetto's potency is nowhere near Propecia?

The anecdotal reports I've heard of side effects of saw palmetto are men taking 1000mg or more a day.

I don't think there's a problem with taking a regular dose, but I'm not aware of anyone who has reduced oily skin by taking just 320mg of saw palmetto.

And for what it's worth, I started taking 640mg of saw palmetto and 250mg of nettle root extract about a week ago (yeah I'm a hypocrite). My plan was to take it for only one or two weeks just to see if it had an impact on my oil production. Without getting too graphic, I experienced one of the sexual side effects tonight (for the first time in my life, by the way). Needless to say I've stopped taking both supplements immediately.

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^^ I agree with greengables. 320mg of saw palmetto might be all you need at first. You should stay at that dose for a few weeks at least, to ease into it. Whenever I took more than that, I got some serious brain fog and dryness in my hands.

Since you are male, though, I wonder if saw palmetto could indirectly boost your estrogen along with lowering your testosterone. I'm female and it seemed to have boosted my estrogen while I was taking it, and I read posts from men who are worried about this too.

The best antiandrogen I have taken so far is myo-inositol. It's primarily for women with hormonal issues, but you may want to try it (it's vitamin B8) at a low dose to see if it helps you. It can be a bit estrogenic for some (if you have estrogen dominance already, which you probably don't), though, but if you take it as a vitamin supplement at a lose dose it shouldn't affect your estrogen levels.


Current regimen: garlic supplements [as needed], Enzymedica gluten blocker [as needed], nicadan [not sure if it works yet]. I try to simplify as much as I can. Don't take more supplements than you need....try one at a time and be patient.

The supplements that really helped me when my acne was at its worst: inositol, DIM [not as frequently now!] digestive enzymes [don't need them every day anymore, only on cheat days], herpanacine & vitamin C with rose hips/ low acid [not every day], regular sun exposure for vitamin D3, superoxide dismutase (SOD) enzyme supplements. NOTE: I do not recommend DIM for long term use, and I do not recommend hormonal creams without doctor supervision.

Lifestyle & Skin Care: acupuncture, regular exercise/ yoga, low histamine diet, avoiding unnecessary stress, balancing skin's PH (using Image Ormedics), using distilled/ filtered water to wash face, occasional high frequency facials...

 

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