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Posted 31 August 2013 - 02:39 PM

Hey guys, like the topic says I got some bloodwork done. I had a complete metabolic analysis, vitamin levels checked, lipids checked, Test. and Est. levels checked, and thyroid hormones checked. I was mainly interested in the hormone levels, but I was pretty surprised to hear with the results that everything was great except Vitamin D! The doctor said my Vitamin D was low, which is odd because I eat TONS of milk and greek yogurt (high in Vit. D) for their protein content; so I have to wonder if for whatever reason my body doesn't process it well. Also, it could have just been a bad test and the numbers slightly skewed.

 

Now most people have probably read the 40 page thread that started after one guy claimed a Vitamin D supplement helped his oily skin; I was one of them. I tried 2500 IU for a week, then got really sick. No whether it was a result of the Vitamin D or just a coincidental bug/virus I have never been able to determine. But, ever since then I have not tried any more Vit. D.

 

At the recommendation of my doctor, I am starting on a low (1000 IU) daily vitamin D3 supplement to see if it helps my oily skin. Many of you may have read my posts before on the boards, but for those that haven't I am a 20 year old male with very mild acne but sensitive and extremely oily skin. My diet is perfect, I exercise like an athlete, and I have tried numerous oily skin remedies with little to show for it. 

 

I'd recommend anyone having a similar problem to get some blood work done. It's a simple process, just have your family doctor or a general practitioner write you an order (mention the items you want checked, the list in the first paragraph is pretty comprehensive), and then find a medical facility that does bloodwork (your doc will know local ones). The process takes about 10 minutes, and then results usually come in 2-4 days after they've sent them to be tested. It's a good idea because you can get a lot of information from it, and you may catch something important. 

 

I'll post anything notable here with the supplement; good or bad :)


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Here's A Few Acne.org Threads Of Mine You May Find Useful/Interesting (updated 7/25/13)

-- DIY Apple Cider Vinegar Toner http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/324606-flakydryoily-skin-try-this/

-- How to Ice Inflammed or Picked at Cysts http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/327532-acne-redness-removal-trick/

-- Milk of Magnesia Uses http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/329385-ways-to-use-milk-of-magnesia-for-oily-skin/

Other Threads Worth Looking At

-- Oily Skin Research Thread: This shows some of our previous efforts and explains the mechanisms behind oily skin.

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/326345-oily-skin-research/

-- My failed but enlightening experiment going the "less is more" route, aka "The Caveman Routine"

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/327898-a-minimalist-approach-for-oily-skin/

 

 

 


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Posted 31 August 2013 - 02:59 PM

Exposure to sunlight can also improve Vit D levels

 

Good luck



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Posted 31 August 2013 - 03:11 PM

Exposure to sunlight can also improve Vit D levels

Good luck


Oh yea, but I was as tan as I've ever been this summer from doing lots of outside yardwork. Which is another reason I find a low number surprising.

And yep, thanks.

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-- DIY Apple Cider Vinegar Toner http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/324606-flakydryoily-skin-try-this/

-- How to Ice Inflammed or Picked at Cysts http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/327532-acne-redness-removal-trick/

-- Milk of Magnesia Uses http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/329385-ways-to-use-milk-of-magnesia-for-oily-skin/

Other Threads Worth Looking At

-- Oily Skin Research Thread: This shows some of our previous efforts and explains the mechanisms behind oily skin.

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/326345-oily-skin-research/

-- My failed but enlightening experiment going the "less is more" route, aka "The Caveman Routine"

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/327898-a-minimalist-approach-for-oily-skin/

 

 

 


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Posted 31 August 2013 - 04:05 PM

Glad you finally got that done Ive been really curious about it since you talked about doing it a while back in another post. I plan on doing the same thing after I get off this round of accutane if things go back to where they were before. Thats good that everything came back normal. I was kind of hoping something would show up a little off so we could find what causing our terrible oily skin though. I thought for sure it would have been hormone related. Hopefully it is the Vit D! Anyway good luck and keep us updated.


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Posted 31 August 2013 - 04:22 PM

Glad you finally got that done Ive been really curious about it since you talked about doing it a while back in another post. I plan on doing the same thing after I get off this round of accutane if things go back to where they were before. Thats good that everything came back normal. I was kind of hoping something would show up a little off so we could find what causing our terrible oily skin though. I thought for sure it would have been hormone related. Hopefully it is the Vit D! Anyway good luck and keep us updated.


Yea I thought it was going to show elevated androgens, but my levels were only slightly above average. Now I could still be sensitive to the androgens, which may explain why I have symptoms of it without actually having high levels.

I was hoping it would show something because I have run out of practical options for solving the oily skin issue. I have gotten very good at dealing with the issues it causes but it's still a pain in the ass lol.

We'll see if the supplement does anything. My number was somewhere in the low 20s, where the new recommended levels are 50-70. It's really surprising that it's that low considering I get plenty through my diet.

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-- DIY Apple Cider Vinegar Toner http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/324606-flakydryoily-skin-try-this/

-- How to Ice Inflammed or Picked at Cysts http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/327532-acne-redness-removal-trick/

-- Milk of Magnesia Uses http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/329385-ways-to-use-milk-of-magnesia-for-oily-skin/

Other Threads Worth Looking At

-- Oily Skin Research Thread: This shows some of our previous efforts and explains the mechanisms behind oily skin.

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/326345-oily-skin-research/

-- My failed but enlightening experiment going the "less is more" route, aka "The Caveman Routine"

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/327898-a-minimalist-approach-for-oily-skin/

 

 

 


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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:01 PM

I hope it turns out to be the solution to your oil problem! I also had very low vitamin D levels, but getting them to normal levels did nothing for my oil or acne :(



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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:10 PM

Glad you finally got that done Ive been really curious about it since you talked about doing it a while back in another post. I plan on doing the same thing after I get off this round of accutane if things go back to where they were before. Thats good that everything came back normal. I was kind of hoping something would show up a little off so we could find what causing our terrible oily skin though. I thought for sure it would have been hormone related. Hopefully it is the Vit D! Anyway good luck and keep us updated.


Yea I thought it was going to show elevated androgens, but my levels were only slightly above average. Now I could still be sensitive to the androgens, which may explain why I have symptoms of it without actually having high levels.

I was hoping it would show something because I have run out of practical options for solving the oily skin issue. I have gotten very good at dealing with the issues it causes but it's still a pain in the ass lol.

We'll see if the supplement does anything. My number was somewhere in the low 20s, where the new recommended levels are 50-70. It's really surprising that it's that low considering I get plenty through my diet.

 

Don't forget that Vitamin D actually coverts to a hormone when it enters the body! :D So, technically, it IS hormone-related! It's crucial in liver and kidney function as well as the absorption of calcium and phosphate.

That's great that you found at least something that may be triggering your acne! Hopefully your supplements work! :)



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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:19 PM



Glad you finally got that done Ive been really curious about it since you talked about doing it a while back in another post. I plan on doing the same thing after I get off this round of accutane if things go back to where they were before. Thats good that everything came back normal. I was kind of hoping something would show up a little off so we could find what causing our terrible oily skin though. I thought for sure it would have been hormone related. Hopefully it is the Vit D! Anyway good luck and keep us updated.

Yea I thought it was going to show elevated androgens, but my levels were only slightly above average. Now I could still be sensitive to the androgens, which may explain why I have symptoms of it without actually having high levels.
I was hoping it would show something because I have run out of practical options for solving the oily skin issue. I have gotten very good at dealing with the issues it causes but it's still a pain in the ass lol.
We'll see if the supplement does anything. My number was somewhere in the low 20s, where the new recommended levels are 50-70. It's really surprising that it's that low considering I get plenty through my diet.
 
Don't forget that Vitamin D actually coverts to a hormone when it enters the body! :D So, technically, it IS hormone-related! It's crucial in liver and kidney function as well as the absorption of calcium and phosphate.
That's great that you found at least something that may be triggering your acne! Hopefully your supplements work! :)
Hey thanks. Yea when they first isolated Vitamim D they called it a vitamin just as a temporary thing, but once ffscience progressed enough to verify it was a pro-hormone they were too lazy to change it LOL.

But yea we'll see if it does anything, and if it does it may have ramifications for others that have the same issue.

Edited by CBIOT13, 31 August 2013 - 07:21 PM.

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-- DIY Apple Cider Vinegar Toner http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/324606-flakydryoily-skin-try-this/

-- How to Ice Inflammed or Picked at Cysts http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/327532-acne-redness-removal-trick/

-- Milk of Magnesia Uses http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/329385-ways-to-use-milk-of-magnesia-for-oily-skin/

Other Threads Worth Looking At

-- Oily Skin Research Thread: This shows some of our previous efforts and explains the mechanisms behind oily skin.

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/326345-oily-skin-research/

-- My failed but enlightening experiment going the "less is more" route, aka "The Caveman Routine"

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/327898-a-minimalist-approach-for-oily-skin/

 

 

 


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Posted 31 August 2013 - 10:09 PM

That's interesting that your levels are low despite spending so much time in the sun. I hope supplementing produces good results for you. If I remember correctly, you were using the dry tablet form of vitamin D when you got sick, right? Maybe your body would respond better to the liquid gel caps.



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Posted 01 September 2013 - 05:33 AM

That's interesting that your levels are low despite spending so much time in the sun. I hope supplementing produces good results for you. If I remember correctly, you were using the dry tablet form of vitamin D when you got sick, right? Maybe your body would respond better to the liquid gel caps.


Yea my doctor thinks that may have just been a coincidence; I was traveleing a lot at the time so I could have picked up a virus somewhere. I'm actually taking the exact ones from before so we'll see what happens.

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-- DIY Apple Cider Vinegar Toner http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/324606-flakydryoily-skin-try-this/

-- How to Ice Inflammed or Picked at Cysts http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/327532-acne-redness-removal-trick/

-- Milk of Magnesia Uses http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/329385-ways-to-use-milk-of-magnesia-for-oily-skin/

Other Threads Worth Looking At

-- Oily Skin Research Thread: This shows some of our previous efforts and explains the mechanisms behind oily skin.

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/326345-oily-skin-research/

-- My failed but enlightening experiment going the "less is more" route, aka "The Caveman Routine"

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/327898-a-minimalist-approach-for-oily-skin/

 

 

 


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Posted 02 September 2013 - 08:03 AM

I too was excited upon first reading that long Vitamin D thread; however, after being on Vitamin D for several months, I can say it has had little to no affect on my complexion. Still, I need to get the follow-up blood test to see how much my levels have actually risen. Some people can take all the Vitamin D they want but their body may have an innate difficulty absorbing it.


Edited by John457, 02 September 2013 - 08:04 AM.

Current Skincare Regimen

 

MORNING

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NIGHT

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CeraVe Facial Moisturizing Lotion

 

OTHER

Monthly Chemical Peels (Salicylic and Glycolic Based)

Current Supplements: Zinc, Vitamin D3.

 

Past Efforts: Topical Treatments (BP, Evoclin, Differin, Duac, Ziana, Epiduo, etc.); Antibiotics (Doxycycline, Bactrim, Solodyn); Other Treatments (IsoLaz, Chemical Peels, Supplementation, Elimination Diets, etc.)

 

 


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Posted 02 September 2013 - 08:30 AM

I too was excited upon first reading that long Vitamin D thread; however, after being on Vitamin D for several months, I can say it has had little to no affect on my complexion. Still, I need to get the follow-up blood test to see how much my levels have actually risen. Some people can take all the Vitamin D they want but their body may have an innate difficulty absorbing it.


Did you have blood tests done before taking vitamin D to see if you were difficient? From what I've read it only helps skin if you have a difficiency, it does nothing if you have a surplus

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-- DIY Apple Cider Vinegar Toner http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/324606-flakydryoily-skin-try-this/

-- How to Ice Inflammed or Picked at Cysts http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/327532-acne-redness-removal-trick/

-- Milk of Magnesia Uses http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/329385-ways-to-use-milk-of-magnesia-for-oily-skin/

Other Threads Worth Looking At

-- Oily Skin Research Thread: This shows some of our previous efforts and explains the mechanisms behind oily skin.

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/326345-oily-skin-research/

-- My failed but enlightening experiment going the "less is more" route, aka "The Caveman Routine"

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/327898-a-minimalist-approach-for-oily-skin/

 

 

 


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Posted 02 September 2013 - 11:09 AM

I too was excited upon first reading that long Vitamin D thread; however, after being on Vitamin D for several months, I can say it has had little to no affect on my complexion. Still, I need to get the follow-up blood test to see how much my levels have actually risen. Some people can take all the Vitamin D they want but their body may have an innate difficulty absorbing it.


Did you have blood tests done before taking vitamin D to see if you were difficient? From what I've read it only helps skin if you have a difficiency, it does nothing if you have a surplus

 

Yes, I had a blood test prior to supplementing. My levels were an 18 out of a possible 100.


Edited by John457, 02 September 2013 - 11:09 AM.

Current Skincare Regimen

 

MORNING

Green Tea Cleanser from Dermatologist

CeraVe Facial Moisturizing Lotion

Murad Acne Treatment Concealer (Light) 

 

NIGHT

Green Tea Cleanser from Dermatologist

CeraVe Facial Moisturizing Lotion

 

OTHER

Monthly Chemical Peels (Salicylic and Glycolic Based)

Current Supplements: Zinc, Vitamin D3.

 

Past Efforts: Topical Treatments (BP, Evoclin, Differin, Duac, Ziana, Epiduo, etc.); Antibiotics (Doxycycline, Bactrim, Solodyn); Other Treatments (IsoLaz, Chemical Peels, Supplementation, Elimination Diets, etc.)

 

 


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Posted 02 September 2013 - 12:27 PM

Dairy products (and soy products) are fortified with vitamin D2 (ergocalciferol), not D3 (cholecalciferol).

 

D3 is 87% more potent than D2 and is converted into the active form by your body 500 times faster than D2. 

 

I personally recommend short amounts of raw sun exposure (30 minutes or more a day) without sunscreen or makeup. And not behind glass because glass filters out the UV rays needed to stimulate vitamin D3. Yeah, there are pills, but in clinical trials the body doesn't absorb it very well through a pill. There are vitamin D shots, but those are vitamin D2.


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Posted 02 September 2013 - 01:00 PM

Dairy products (and soy products) are fortified with vitamin D2 (ergocalciferol), not D3 (cholecalciferol).

 

D3 is 87% more potent than D2 and is converted into the active form by your body 500 times faster than D2. 

 

I personally recommend short amounts of raw sun exposure (30 minutes or more a day) without sunscreen or makeup. And not behind glass because glass filters out the UV rays needed to stimulate vitamin D3. Yeah, there are pills, but in clinical trials the body doesn't absorb it very well through a pill. There are vitamin D shots, but those are vitamin D2.

 

Really? Never knew it was D2, I just always assumed it was D3 that they were fortified with. That's interesting. 


Edited by CBIOT13, 02 September 2013 - 01:01 PM.

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-- DIY Apple Cider Vinegar Toner http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/324606-flakydryoily-skin-try-this/

-- How to Ice Inflammed or Picked at Cysts http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/327532-acne-redness-removal-trick/

-- Milk of Magnesia Uses http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/329385-ways-to-use-milk-of-magnesia-for-oily-skin/

Other Threads Worth Looking At

-- Oily Skin Research Thread: This shows some of our previous efforts and explains the mechanisms behind oily skin.

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/326345-oily-skin-research/

-- My failed but enlightening experiment going the "less is more" route, aka "The Caveman Routine"

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/327898-a-minimalist-approach-for-oily-skin/

 

 

 


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Posted 06 September 2013 - 04:51 AM

Did you have blood tests done before taking vitamin D to see if you were difficient?

 

Hey, just wondering what your ethnic background is? I was reading on the nhs website (the UK's national health service):

 

"Groups of the population at risk of not getting enough vitamin D are:

 

  • people who have darker skin such as people of African, African-Caribbean and South Asian origin

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 06:01 AM

Nope lol, I'm mostly Irish and Italian

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-- DIY Apple Cider Vinegar Toner http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/324606-flakydryoily-skin-try-this/

-- How to Ice Inflammed or Picked at Cysts http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/327532-acne-redness-removal-trick/

-- Milk of Magnesia Uses http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/329385-ways-to-use-milk-of-magnesia-for-oily-skin/

Other Threads Worth Looking At

-- Oily Skin Research Thread: This shows some of our previous efforts and explains the mechanisms behind oily skin.

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/326345-oily-skin-research/

-- My failed but enlightening experiment going the "less is more" route, aka "The Caveman Routine"

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/327898-a-minimalist-approach-for-oily-skin/

 

 

 


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 05:28 PM

Hey everybody,

 

This is the one week update. Skin looks good, no large active pimples, and oil production may be slightly decreased but it is hard to tell. It is incredibly hard to objectively judge yourself, especially when your are hoping for a certain result. I would say oil production has changed about 10%, but that could be from the Vitamin D, lifestyle change (back at school = different food+less lifting+less sleep), or something to do with the weather (not very humid the past week), or a combination of all these.

 

Things look good, but only time will tell if these are consistent, noticeable changes or just part of the cyclical nature of acne. I broke the golden rule of scientific experimentation; ONLY CHANGE ONE VARIABLE lol. With all the new changes I just described above, it's ungodly hard to logically figure out which is having the greatest effect on my skin, if anything at all. Throw in a little bit of experimental bias (I'm hoping D3 has a positive effect) and you've got the perfect storm for an indeterminate result haha.

 

I'll be taking this at least until the Holidays, so I'd imagine more time would give a better picture.

 

The good news is that at least it didn't make me sick again :) The last time I tried it I must have just contracted some random flu-like virus the first week I was taking it haha.


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Here's A Few Acne.org Threads Of Mine You May Find Useful/Interesting (updated 7/25/13)

-- DIY Apple Cider Vinegar Toner http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/324606-flakydryoily-skin-try-this/

-- How to Ice Inflammed or Picked at Cysts http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/327532-acne-redness-removal-trick/

-- Milk of Magnesia Uses http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/329385-ways-to-use-milk-of-magnesia-for-oily-skin/

Other Threads Worth Looking At

-- Oily Skin Research Thread: This shows some of our previous efforts and explains the mechanisms behind oily skin.

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/326345-oily-skin-research/

-- My failed but enlightening experiment going the "less is more" route, aka "The Caveman Routine"

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/327898-a-minimalist-approach-for-oily-skin/

 

 

 


#19 CBIOT13

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 06:17 PM

Two week update: Nothing really new, still seeing what I believe to be a minor improvement in skin's oil production (lessening of it to be clear). It'll take another couple weeks before I can really make a good judgement on what's doing what.


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Here's A Few Acne.org Threads Of Mine You May Find Useful/Interesting (updated 7/25/13)

-- DIY Apple Cider Vinegar Toner http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/324606-flakydryoily-skin-try-this/

-- How to Ice Inflammed or Picked at Cysts http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/327532-acne-redness-removal-trick/

-- Milk of Magnesia Uses http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/329385-ways-to-use-milk-of-magnesia-for-oily-skin/

Other Threads Worth Looking At

-- Oily Skin Research Thread: This shows some of our previous efforts and explains the mechanisms behind oily skin.

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/326345-oily-skin-research/

-- My failed but enlightening experiment going the "less is more" route, aka "The Caveman Routine"

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/327898-a-minimalist-approach-for-oily-skin/

 

 

 


#20 CookieJ

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 07:46 AM

I haven't had milk/dairy in almost 6 weeks (I used to eat a lot of cheese), and it may have helped things. But I changed too many variables to know lol. Though in my biased opinion, I think it has affected me in the past. Will be interesting to see your results in a couple of weeks though


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