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Greetings from Bangkok, Thailand.

I will try to make this as short as possible.

I'm 34 years old, male.

I had been on Accutane for 3-4 courses. The first 2 courses I used Roaccutane by Roche. The first course was only 6 months and I was taking 20 mg every 2 days. I do not want to count this as a course because only 45 days after the derm put me off it, acne returned.

The 2nd time was good. I was acne free for 2.5 years.

The 3rd time I switched to a Chinese brand. Acne free for 2 years.

The 4th time I switched again to Acnotin, a Thai brand and this time only 1 year later some mild acne came back around Nov 2012.

Please note that each course I took it was up to my weight, say 75 kgs x 120 mg = 9,000 mg in total. 9,000 / 10 mg = 900 pills which covered about 2-3 years to finish.

After acne started to return in Nov 2012, it got worse in April and the worst in May. I ordered Paula's Choice CLEAR system, the blue bottle, and use all of them. Gel wash, BHA, and BP 2.5%.

It works! I have used it for a bit more than 2 months now. My face is almost acne free, but full of red mark as every time I see acne that can be squeezed, I will squeeze it.

Well, although things are improving. I am sure that one day my skin will not respond to topical treatment I am on. And so I am thinking of healing it from the deeper root, the oil gland. Now Acnotin is so cheap here, you pay 1 dollar you get 3 pills (10 mg). However, I am saying no to the risks from this wonderful drug. 4 courses are enough.

Guess what! Yes, the famous B5 and Pantethine are on my mind. I have read a lot on this site before posting this question. That's because I am still confused about how to begin.

Let's see my current supplements.

Country's Life - Buffered C 1000mg

Swansons Hair, Skin & Nails

NOW Foods L-OptiZinc

Swansons AjiPure N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine

Swansons Grapeseed

Doctor's Best Astaxantin

Swansons Saw Palmetto extract 160 mg

Swansons Resveratrol

Swansons Royal Jelly

Swansons Betacarotene 25,000 IU

Swansons Vit E (dry) 400 IU

Carlson Salmon Oil

Country Life Natural Vitamin D3 400 IU

Carlson Selenium

JARROW CURCUMIN

Swansons Dr. Stephen Langer's Ultimate 15 Strain Probiotic with FOS

I'd like to take whether B5 or Pantethine but cannot decide which one. Does Pantethine cause hair loss like B5? I am taking Saw Palmetto because of hair loss, not sure if it's caused by Accutane I took for a long time. I do not lose more than 60 / day though.

Also, I read that B5 should be taken with L-Cysteine. But since I am taking NAC, still do I have to take L-Cysteine?

And if I choose Pantethine, do I have to take NAC out or I just add Pantethine and continue with the rest?

Do I have to add B complex? I notice that it stimulates acne for me. I have it but not taking it.

I am unhappy with oily skin. 2 hours after washing my face it's already oily again. And new acne occurs almost every day. Although mild, it leads to red mark as I squeeze it. You may wonder why I squeeze it. I used to leave it alone, apply BP or clindamycin like Dalacin T yet it grew bigger and in the end I had to see the derm.

For red mark I am using BHA 9 as the last step. After BP 2.5%. I put BHA 9 on red marks and it helps.

Please kindly suggest how should I welcome B5 or Pantethine into my regimen and how much should I start with, and what else I have to add.

Thank you very much.

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Greetings from Bangkok, Thailand.

I will try to make this as short as possible.

I'm 34 years old, male.

I had been on Accutane for 3-4 courses. The first 2 courses I used Roaccutane by Roche. The first course was only 6 months and I was taking 20 mg every 2 days. I do not want to count this as a course because only 45 days after the derm put me off it, acne returned.

The 2nd time was good. I was acne free for 2.5 years.

The 3rd time I switched to a Chinese brand. Acne free for 2 years.

The 4th time I switched again to Acnotin, a Thai brand and this time only 1 year later some mild acne came back around Nov 2012.

Please note that each course I took it was up to my weight, say 75 kgs x 120 mg = 9,000 mg in total. 9,000 / 10 mg = 900 pills which covered about 2-3 years to finish.

After acne started to return in Nov 2012, it got worse in April and the worst in May. I ordered Paula's Choice CLEAR system, the blue bottle, and use all of them. Gel wash, BHA, and BP 2.5%.

It works! I have used it for a bit more than 2 months now. My face is almost acne free, but full of red mark as every time I see acne that can be squeezed, I will squeeze it.

Well, although things are improving. I am sure that one day my skin will not respond to topical treatment I am on. And so I am thinking of healing it from the deeper root, the oil gland. Now Acnotin is so cheap here, you pay 1 dollar you get 3 pills (10 mg). However, I am saying no to the risks from this wonderful drug. 4 courses are enough.

Guess what! Yes, the famous B5 and Pantethine are on my mind. I have read a lot on this site before posting this question. That's because I am still confused about how to begin.

Let's see my current supplements.

Country's Life - Buffered C 1000mg

Swansons Hair, Skin & Nails

NOW Foods L-OptiZinc

Swansons AjiPure N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine

Swansons Grapeseed

Doctor's Best Astaxantin

Swansons Saw Palmetto extract 160 mg

Swansons Resveratrol

Swansons Royal Jelly

Swansons Betacarotene 25,000 IU

Swansons Vit E (dry) 400 IU

Carolson Salmon Oil

Country Life Natural Vitamin D3 400 IU

Carlson Selenium

JARROW CURCUMIN

Swansons Dr. Stephen Langer's Ultimate 15 Strain Probiotic with FOS

I'd like to take whether B5 or Pantethine but cannot decide which one. Does Pantethine cause hair loss like B5? I am taking Saw Palmetto because of hair loss, not sure if it's caused by Accutane I took for a long time. I do not lose more than 60 / day though.

Also, I read that B5 should be taken with L-Cysteine. But since I am taking NAC, still do I have to take L-Cysteine?

Also, if I choose Pantethine, do I have to take NAC out or I just add Pantethine and continue with the rest?

Do I have to add B complex? I notice that it stimulates acne for me. I have it but not taking it.

I am unhappy with oily skin. 2 hours after washing my face it's already oily again. And new acne occurs almost every day. Although mild, it leads to red mark as I squeeze it. You may wonder why I squeeze it. I used to leave it alone, apply BP or clindamycin like Dalacin T yet it grew bigger and in the end I had to see the derm.

For red mark I am using BHA 9 as the last step. After BP 2.5%. I put BHA 9 on red marks and I think it helps.

Please kindly suggest how should I welcome B5 or Pantethine into my regimen and how much should I start with.

Thank you.

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Just wanting to add that I'd be careful taking too many supplements. Eating a healthy and balanced diet should do the trick. Over-using supplements can be toxic. Espescially when it comes to vitamins or,minerals. Have you consulted your doc about all of these supplements?

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Greetings from Bangkok, Thailand.

I will try to make this as short as possible.

I'm 34 years old, male.

I had been on Accutane for 3-4 courses. The first 2 courses I used Roaccutane by Roche. The first course was only 6 months and I was taking 20 mg every 2 days. I do not want to count this as a course because only 45 days after the derm put me off it, acne returned.

The 2nd time was good. I was acne free for 2.5 years.

The 3rd time I switched to a Chinese brand. Acne free for 2 years.

The 4th time I switched again to Acnotin, a Thai brand and this time only 1 year later some mild acne came back around Nov 2012.

Please note that each course I took it was up to my weight, say 75 kgs x 120 mg = 9,000 mg in total. 9,000 / 10 mg = 900 pills which covered about 2-3 years to finish.

After acne started to return in Nov 2012, it got worse in April and the worst in May. I ordered Paula's Choice CLEAR system, the blue bottle, and use all of them. Gel wash, BHA, and BP 2.5%.

It works! I have used it for a bit more than 2 months now. My face is almost acne free, but full of red mark as every time I see acne that can be squeezed, I will squeeze it.

Well, although things are improving. I am sure that one day my skin will not respond to topical treatment I am on. And so I am thinking of healing it from the deeper root, the oil gland. Now Acnotin is so cheap here, you pay 1 dollar you get 3 pills (10 mg). However, I am saying no to the risks from this wonderful drug. 4 courses are enough.

Guess what! Yes, the famous B5 and Pantethine are on my mind. I have read a lot on this site before posting this question. That's because I am still confused about how to begin.

Let's see my current supplements.

Country's Life - Buffered C 1000mg

Swansons Hair, Skin & Nails

NOW Foods L-OptiZinc

Swansons AjiPure N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine

Swansons Grapeseed

Doctor's Best Astaxantin

Swansons Saw Palmetto extract 160 mg

Swansons Resveratrol

Swansons Royal Jelly

Swansons Betacarotene 25,000 IU

Swansons Vit E (dry) 400 IU

Carolson Salmon Oil

Country Life Natural Vitamin D3 400 IU

Carlson Selenium

JARROW CURCUMIN

Swansons Dr. Stephen Langer's Ultimate 15 Strain Probiotic with FOS

I'd like to take whether B5 or Pantethine but cannot decide which one. Does Pantethine cause hair loss like B5? I am taking Saw Palmetto because of hair loss, not sure if it's caused by Accutane I took for a long time. I do not lose more than 60 / day though.

Also, I read that B5 should be taken with L-Cysteine. But since I am taking NAC, still do I have to take L-Cysteine?

Also, if I choose Pantethine, do I have to take NAC out or I just add Pantethine and continue with the rest?

Do I have to add B complex? I notice that it stimulates acne for me. I have it but not taking it.

I am unhappy with oily skin. 2 hours after washing my face it's already oily again. And new acne occurs almost every day. Although mild, it leads to red mark as I squeeze it. You may wonder why I squeeze it. I used to leave it alone, apply BP or clindamycin like Dalacin T yet it grew bigger and in the end I had to see the derm.

For red mark I am using BHA 9 as the last step. After BP 2.5%. I put BHA 9 on red marks and I think it helps.

Please kindly suggest how should I welcome B5 or Pantethine into my regimen and how much should I start with.

Thank you.

LOL i am speechless....

I can only say one thing...

O....M.....G....

That's a LOT of supplements.

Anyways, for oily skin, i read a lot of reviews about people who take zinc. They said it is effective for oily skin.

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Let me re-phrase.

The only things that scientific evidence for reducing oil production are Accutane and hormonal treatments. Everything else is based on anecdotal evidence.

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The above poster is correct. If you truly have oily skin then your oil glands are for whatever reason sensitive to androgens. The only thing that can significantly change that is accutane or birth control; believe me if they ever come up with something else I willl be the first one using it LOL.


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-- DIY Apple Cider Vinegar Toner

-- How to Ice Inflammed or Picked at Cysts

-- Milk of Magnesia Uses

Other Threads Worth Looking At

-- Oily Skin Research Thread: This shows some of our previous efforts and explains the mechanisms behind oily skin.

-- My failed but enlightening experiment going the "less is more" route, aka "The Caveman Routine"


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The above poster is correct. If you truly have oily skin then your oil glands are for whatever reason sensitive to androgens. The only thing that can significantly change that is accutane or birth control; believe me if they ever come up with something else I willl be the first one using it LOL.

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Yes it will dry you out, but I've spent days researching it and from what I've read about 60% of people report serious hair loss; sometimes permanent. I weighed the pros and cons awhile ago; and it wasn't worth it for me. Megadosingg on B5 is efffective, but carries almost as many risks as accutane.

Although if I had to pick one, I'd use B5. It is slightly less risky than accutane, and more people report a permanent oil reduction (I'd say about 30% of users) compared to accutane (about 15%)


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Here's A Few Acne.org Threads Of Mine You May Find Useful/Interesting (updated 7/25/13)

-- DIY Apple Cider Vinegar Toner

-- How to Ice Inflammed or Picked at Cysts

-- Milk of Magnesia Uses

Other Threads Worth Looking At

-- Oily Skin Research Thread: This shows some of our previous efforts and explains the mechanisms behind oily skin.

-- My failed but enlightening experiment going the "less is more" route, aka "The Caveman Routine"


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But the caveat is that if you use accutane; usually you can at least find a doctor to help if an issue arises. But with B5 megadosing, you won't have medical supervision since you are using a technique not recognized by the medical community; I mean you are essentially in uncharted territory with B5.


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Here's A Few Acne.org Threads Of Mine You May Find Useful/Interesting (updated 7/25/13)

-- DIY Apple Cider Vinegar Toner

-- How to Ice Inflammed or Picked at Cysts

-- Milk of Magnesia Uses

Other Threads Worth Looking At

-- Oily Skin Research Thread: This shows some of our previous efforts and explains the mechanisms behind oily skin.

-- My failed but enlightening experiment going the "less is more" route, aka "The Caveman Routine"


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But the caveat is that if you use accutane; usually you can at least find a doctor to help if an issue arises. But with B5 megadosing, you won't have medical supervision since you are using a technique not recognized by the medical community; I mean you are essentially in uncharted territory with B5.

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Anyone taking low does of B5 or pantethine? I have actually ordered both, one bottle each. I see that some take both in the same day.

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Anyone taking low does of B5 or pantethine? I have actually ordered both, one bottle each. I see that some take both in the same day


People never cease to amaze me. Some with their brilliance, others with their ignorance. eusa_think.gif

Here's A Few Acne.org Threads Of Mine You May Find Useful/Interesting (updated 7/25/13)

-- DIY Apple Cider Vinegar Toner

-- How to Ice Inflammed or Picked at Cysts

-- Milk of Magnesia Uses

Other Threads Worth Looking At

-- Oily Skin Research Thread: This shows some of our previous efforts and explains the mechanisms behind oily skin.

-- My failed but enlightening experiment going the "less is more" route, aka "The Caveman Routine"


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Anyone taking low does of B5 or pantethine? I have actually ordered both, one bottle each. I see that some take both in the same day

You may have ordered two bottles of the same ingredient.

Pantethine = Pantethenic acid = Vitamin B5

It's all the same thing. Pantethine is composed of two units of Pantethinc acid, and Vitamin B5 is the same active molecule just with a different name.

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