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#81 Green Gables

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 08:44 PM

Spiro was a miracle for me.. I have a before and after (1 and a half year) picture here. But my mother just can't understand that i have a health problem. My hormone levels are fine but i seem to be too sensitive to them. So she kept saying that i am stupid to take a hypertension pill for acne, that this is for women with pcos, that my skin is fine, that i will get cancer, i am destroying my kidneys, ovaries etc.. So i decided to go off it. At first it was fine (i don't know if the swimming pool had something to do with that) but gradually i started breaking out again. At first only after eating dairy and know even through i eat basically only salads i continue to break out. Today i started spiro again, 100 mg. She doesn't know but sooner or later she will find out. I can't stand her nagging again and don't know what to do. She can't realise that i can't let acne destroy the best years of my life..

 

Some points you may want to make to her, if she listens to logic at all.

 

- There are several clinical studies where spironolactone is specifically used for female acne. It is actually used more for acne now than for hypertension (it is really too weak for hypertension compared to new drugs.)

- One of the reasons spironolactone is used so often in PCOS is because of the ACNE present in PCOS because of elevated androgens

- Spironolactone ONLY helps your acne IF elevated androgens or androgen sensitivity is your root issue. Since it cleared you up, it means you have an androgen issue, which means you have a hormonal issue.

- You can have hormonal issues without having PCOS.

- There is no definitive test for PCOS (sometimes you can have PCOS without the main thing they test for in the ovary ultrasound). Who's to say you don't have PCOS? Many acne sufferers find out later in life they had PCOS all along.

- It is has been tested in an eight year clinical trial for women with acne to have no serious long-term side effects. It really is a MILD drug, it will not destroy your kidneys, it will not give you cancer.

- Clinical studies have found more danger in birth control pills and Accutane than spironolactone.

 

I hate to say this, and maybe she is just misinformed about the drug and worried about your health, but does she present any signs of jealousy at all? Unfortunately, sometimes mothers have a hard time seeing a younger version of themselves looking better than they do. (See this article: No Longer the Nubile One, written from a mother's perspective). She may subconsciously feel better about herself when you have acne and don't look quite so good. Sad, but often true with parents. My mother is still that way about my weight (she'll get a little too gleeful when I visit if I've gained a couple of pounds). 


Edited by Green Gables, 12 September 2013 - 08:53 PM.

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How to Treat Hormonal Acne

Good and Bad Birth Control Pills and Implants for Acne

How to take Spironolactone

List of Doctors Who Prescribe Spironolactone

Topicals for Hormonal Acne

 

HOW I STAY 100% CLEAR:

Spironolactone (anti-androgen drug)

Betaine HCL with each meal

Avoiding silicones and occlusives in skin/hair products

 

 

 


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Posted 13 September 2013 - 12:55 AM

Green Gables thank you very much for the tips. She is generally negative to drugs and afraid of the side effects ( for example she has to take statins and continuously asks if they cause alzheimer) plus she never really had acne at young age. Only an infection from cosmetics at her 30's when she was already married with children. Now she gets a few pimples if she eats chocolate. So she can't understand what ut is to have acne and acne red marks at your early 20's... I don't think she is jealous. If i was her, i would be jealous of my younger sisters, they're really beautiful and look like her much more than i do. I feel like a walking catastrophe. It's not only acne but several other health issues. For me acne is the top of the iceberg. And since the top is the more visible one, i can't have this and all the others. I just want this resolved to gain the self-esteem i need to cope with the other problems.

Edited by maria199, 13 September 2013 - 01:13 AM.

What clears my acne:

Spironolactone 100 mg + limiting dairy

indoxyl (duac) gel + aha + baby brush for comedones.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 12:12 PM

Has anyone else experienced flaky, dry skin patches on your face when using sprionolactone. It's not really that bad....but when I apply my make up it looks so noticeable! Wondering if this is from the sprionolactone or my cleanser.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 01:03 PM

Has anyone else experienced flaky, dry skin patches on your face when using sprionolactone. It's not really that bad....but when I apply my make up it looks so noticeable! Wondering if this is from the sprionolactone or my cleanser.

What I've noticed is that spiro has made me less oily but not noticeably dry.eusa_clap.gif Are you using a cleanser meant for acne or any of the Rx acne creams?  If so, it's probably the culprit for the dryness. Switch to a gentler cleanser and a good moisturizer and hopefully that will help the dryness. (I love CeraVe but it varies with each person)



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Posted 12 October 2013 - 02:00 PM

Has anyone else experienced flaky, dry skin patches on your face when using sprionolactone. It's not really that bad....but when I apply my make up it looks so noticeable! Wondering if this is from the sprionolactone or my cleanser.

My skin was less oily but still it was oily after almost 2 years.. i believe your cleanser is dehydrating your skin.


What clears my acne:

Spironolactone 100 mg + limiting dairy

indoxyl (duac) gel + aha + baby brush for comedones.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 04:34 PM

Has anyone else experienced flaky, dry skin patches on your face when using sprionolactone. It's not really that bad....but when I apply my make up it looks so noticeable! Wondering if this is from the sprionolactone or my cleanser.

What I've noticed is that spiro has made me less oily but not noticeably dry.:clap: Are you using a cleanser meant for acne or any of the Rx acne creams?  If so, it's probably the culprit for the dryness. Switch to a gentler cleanser and a good moisturizer and hopefully that will help the dryness. (I love CeraVe but it varies with each person)

I'm just using the Benev Crystal cleanser. It's not suppose to be drying! It's not medicated or anything! But I think that's what is causing the dryness! No topicals yet. I'm waiting for the acne to clear like Green Gables did. What cleanser do sprionolactone users use?

Has anyone else experienced flaky, dry skin patches on your face when using sprionolactone. It's not really that bad....but when I apply my make up it looks so noticeable! Wondering if this is from the sprionolactone or my cleanser.

What I've noticed is that spiro has made me less oily but not noticeably dry.:clap: Are you using a cleanser meant for acne or any of the Rx acne creams?  If so, it's probably the culprit for the dryness. Switch to a gentler cleanser and a good moisturizer and hopefully that will help the dryness. (I love CeraVe but it varies with each person)

I'm just using the Benev Crystal cleanser. It's not suppose to be drying! It's not medicated or anything! But I think that's what is causing the dryness! No topicals yet. I'm waiting for the acne to clear like Green Gables did. What cleanser do sprionolactone users use?


Oh! Just saw that you recommended the Cerave one. I'm going to try that!

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 09:06 PM

 

Has anyone else experienced flaky, dry skin patches on your face when using sprionolactone. It's not really that bad....but when I apply my make up it looks so noticeable! Wondering if this is from the sprionolactone or my cleanser.

What I've noticed is that spiro has made me less oily but not noticeably dry.eusa_clap.gif Are you using a cleanser meant for acne or any of the Rx acne creams?  If so, it's probably the culprit for the dryness. Switch to a gentler cleanser and a good moisturizer and hopefully that will help the dryness. (I love CeraVe but it varies with each person)

I'm just using the Benev Crystal cleanser. It's not suppose to be drying! It's not medicated or anything! But I think that's what is causing the dryness! No topicals yet. I'm waiting for the acne to clear like Green Gables did. What cleanser do sprionolactone users use?

 

Has anyone else experienced flaky, dry skin patches on your face when using sprionolactone. It's not really that bad....but when I apply my make up it looks so noticeable! Wondering if this is from the sprionolactone or my cleanser.

What I've noticed is that spiro has made me less oily but not noticeably dry.eusa_clap.gif Are you using a cleanser meant for acne or any of the Rx acne creams?  If so, it's probably the culprit for the dryness. Switch to a gentler cleanser and a good moisturizer and hopefully that will help the dryness. (I love CeraVe but it varies with each person)

I'm just using the Benev Crystal cleanser. It's not suppose to be drying! It's not medicated or anything! But I think that's what is causing the dryness! No topicals yet. I'm waiting for the acne to clear like Green Gables did. What cleanser do sprionolactone users use?


Oh! Just saw that you recommended the Cerave one. I'm going to try that!

 

Yes, I use the CeraVe hydrating cleanser and lotion and I love it. It's gentle and doesn't dry out my skin. I've tried Cetaphil and that made me break out. Go figure.  I would avoid any heavy creams until your skin improves. I tried the CeraVe moisture cream and that gave me cystic acne! 

Also, I avoid using any toners while my acne was healing. Less is more here.

I took a look at the Benev Crystal cleanser and apparently the 2nd ingredient is ammonium lauryl sulfate which can be very drying. Hope the CeraVe works for you.



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 11:50 AM


 


Has anyone else experienced flaky, dry skin patches on your face when using sprionolactone. It's not really that bad....but when I apply my make up it looks so noticeable! Wondering if this is from the sprionolactone or my cleanser.

What I've noticed is that spiro has made me less oily but not noticeably dry.:clap: Are you using a cleanser meant for acne or any of the Rx acne creams?  If so, it's probably the culprit for the dryness. Switch to a gentler cleanser and a good moisturizer and hopefully that will help the dryness. (I love CeraVe but it varies with each person)

I'm just using the Benev Crystal cleanser. It's not suppose to be drying! It's not medicated or anything! But I think that's what is causing the dryness! No topicals yet. I'm waiting for the acne to clear like Green Gables did. What cleanser do sprionolactone users use?



 


Has anyone else experienced flaky, dry skin patches on your face when using sprionolactone. It's not really that bad....but when I apply my make up it looks so noticeable! Wondering if this is from the sprionolactone or my cleanser.

What I've noticed is that spiro has made me less oily but not noticeably dry.:clap: Are you using a cleanser meant for acne or any of the Rx acne creams?  If so, it's probably the culprit for the dryness. Switch to a gentler cleanser and a good moisturizer and hopefully that will help the dryness. (I love CeraVe but it varies with each person)

I'm just using the Benev Crystal cleanser. It's not suppose to be drying! It's not medicated or anything! But I think that's what is causing the dryness! No topicals yet. I'm waiting for the acne to clear like Green Gables did. What cleanser do sprionolactone users use?

Oh! Just saw that you recommended the Cerave one. I'm going to try that!
 
Yes, I use the CeraVe hydrating cleanser and lotion and I love it. It's gentle and doesn't dry out my skin. I've tried Cetaphil and that made me break out. Go figure.  I would avoid any heavy creams until your skin improves. I tried the CeraVe moisture cream and that gave me cystic acne! 
Also, I avoid using any toners while my acne was healing. Less is more here.
I took a look at the Benev Crystal cleanser and apparently the 2nd ingredient is ammonium lauryl sulfate which can be very drying. Hope the CeraVe works for you.

I'm going to try the Cerave hydrating cleanser. I suspected that the ALS in the benev cleanser was causing the dryness. So frustrating!! Why can't my skin just be NORMAL?!

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Posted 13 October 2013 - 04:54 PM

 

 


 


Has anyone else experienced flaky, dry skin patches on your face when using sprionolactone. It's not really that bad....but when I apply my make up it looks so noticeable! Wondering if this is from the sprionolactone or my cleanser.

What I've noticed is that spiro has made me less oily but not noticeably dry.eusa_clap.gif Are you using a cleanser meant for acne or any of the Rx acne creams?  If so, it's probably the culprit for the dryness. Switch to a gentler cleanser and a good moisturizer and hopefully that will help the dryness. (I love CeraVe but it varies with each person)

I'm just using the Benev Crystal cleanser. It's not suppose to be drying! It's not medicated or anything! But I think that's what is causing the dryness! No topicals yet. I'm waiting for the acne to clear like Green Gables did. What cleanser do sprionolactone users use?


 


Has anyone else experienced flaky, dry skin patches on your face when using sprionolactone. It's not really that bad....but when I apply my make up it looks so noticeable! Wondering if this is from the sprionolactone or my cleanser.

What I've noticed is that spiro has made me less oily but not noticeably dry.eusa_clap.gif Are you using a cleanser meant for acne or any of the Rx acne creams?  If so, it's probably the culprit for the dryness. Switch to a gentler cleanser and a good moisturizer and hopefully that will help the dryness. (I love CeraVe but it varies with each person)

I'm just using the Benev Crystal cleanser. It's not suppose to be drying! It's not medicated or anything! But I think that's what is causing the dryness! No topicals yet. I'm waiting for the acne to clear like Green Gables did. What cleanser do sprionolactone users use?

Oh! Just saw that you recommended the Cerave one. I'm going to try that!
 
Yes, I use the CeraVe hydrating cleanser and lotion and I love it. It's gentle and doesn't dry out my skin. I've tried Cetaphil and that made me break out. Go figure.  I would avoid any heavy creams until your skin improves. I tried the CeraVe moisture cream and that gave me cystic acne! 
Also, I avoid using any toners while my acne was healing. Less is more here.
I took a look at the Benev Crystal cleanser and apparently the 2nd ingredient is ammonium lauryl sulfate which can be very drying. Hope the CeraVe works for you.

I'm going to try the Cerave hydrating cleanser. I suspected that the ALS in the benev cleanser was causing the dryness. So frustrating!! Why can't my skin just be NORMAL?!

 

I hope it works for you. Your skin is reacting to an ingredient and sometimes it takes trial and error to figure out what works best.  In my experience, a simple and gentle regime really helped.



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 04:58 PM


 


 



 



Does it remove your make up? I read some reviews and some people said it didn't remove all makeup and left a film on the face??

Has anyone else experienced flaky, dry skin patches on your face when using sprionolactone. It's not really that bad....but when I apply my make up it looks so noticeable! Wondering if this is from the sprionolactone or my cleanser.

What I've noticed is that spiro has made me less oily but not noticeably dry.:clap: Are you using a cleanser meant for acne or any of the Rx acne creams?  If so, it's probably the culprit for the dryness. Switch to a gentler cleanser and a good moisturizer and hopefully that will help the dryness. (I love CeraVe but it varies with each person)

I'm just using the Benev Crystal cleanser. It's not suppose to be drying! It's not medicated or anything! But I think that's what is causing the dryness! No topicals yet. I'm waiting for the acne to clear like Green Gables did. What cleanser do sprionolactone users use?




 



Has anyone else experienced flaky, dry skin patches on your face when using sprionolactone. It's not really that bad....but when I apply my make up it looks so noticeable! Wondering if this is from the sprionolactone or my cleanser.

What I've noticed is that spiro has made me less oily but not noticeably dry.:clap: Are you using a cleanser meant for acne or any of the Rx acne creams?  If so, it's probably the culprit for the dryness. Switch to a gentler cleanser and a good moisturizer and hopefully that will help the dryness. (I love CeraVe but it varies with each person)

I'm just using the Benev Crystal cleanser. It's not suppose to be drying! It's not medicated or anything! But I think that's what is causing the dryness! No topicals yet. I'm waiting for the acne to clear like Green Gables did. What cleanser do sprionolactone users use?

Oh! Just saw that you recommended the Cerave one. I'm going to try that!
 
Yes, I use the CeraVe hydrating cleanser and lotion and I love it. It's gentle and doesn't dry out my skin. I've tried Cetaphil and that made me break out. Go figure.  I would avoid any heavy creams until your skin improves. I tried the CeraVe moisture cream and that gave me cystic acne! 
Also, I avoid using any toners while my acne was healing. Less is more here.
I took a look at the Benev Crystal cleanser and apparently the 2nd ingredient is ammonium lauryl sulfate which can be very drying. Hope the CeraVe works for you.

I'm going to try the Cerave hydrating cleanser. I suspected that the ALS in the benev cleanser was causing the dryness. So frustrating!! Why can't my skin just be NORMAL?!
 
I hope it works for you. Your skin is reacting to an ingredient and sometimes it takes trial and error to figure out what works best.  In my experience, a simple and gentle regime really helped.


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Posted 14 October 2013 - 08:51 AM

my favorite cleanser is hylunia cleansing gel. its free of phosphates, parabens, fragrance etc. their entire product line is expensive but its great and their stuff lasts a long time.

http://www.hylunia.c...l-cleansing-gel



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Posted 14 October 2013 - 02:22 PM

my favorite cleanser is hylunia cleansing gel. its free of phosphates, parabens, fragrance etc. their entire product line is expensive but its great and their stuff lasts a long time.
http://www.hylunia.c...l-cleansing-gel


Hey Tracy! I've been trying to PM you back but every time I hit send, my message gets deleted!!!

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 02:29 PM

oh no that is strange! i will pm you now and then if you get it maybe you can try writing back again. my email is khowz2018@yahoo.com as well.