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hi my name's Irma i'm 20 years old and i have had problems with Excessive body hair and severe acne on my face, back, chest,armpits from when i was 9/10 years old..it really has ruined my life..i gave up on so many things because of that..school, friends, social life...in the last may of 2012 i decided to finally go to the dermatologist...the acne on my face cleared up i just get some pimple every 2 months..but its always better than what was before.. in the last Jenuary i also started laser hair removal for my face it helped me a little bit.. every month i have to go to the dermatologist and it costs to my parents like 264 dollars because i do it on my chest too..i have a lot of long body hair on my breasts too its everywhere on my body it is really embarrassing and because of that and acne i don't really like summer and going to the beach..when i go i wear a shirt..i did the blood test to see if i had some hormonal problems but nothing..i don't have nothing..the dermatologist suggested me to use birth control pills but i'm scared that they will not work once again..i write all of that on here with hope..i hope someone will read this and help me.. i'm really desperate, so i was wondering if anyone has ever had a situation like me? sorry if i made some mistakes..

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I am male but it sounds to me like you may have PCOS, which is actually quite common. Best of luck to you and try to stay positive!

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I am male but it sounds to me like you may have PCOS, which is actually quite common. Best of luck to you and try to stay positive!

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Hey Irma, even if your blood tests didn't show anything "abnormal" about your hormones it is still possible that they are out of balance. Mine are completely out of balance but my recent blood tests also came back "normal". I believe there is a range that is considered within "normal" but it sounds to me like you have too much androgen activity or your system is more sensitive to androgen activity (either of which might cause acne and excessive hair growth).

If this is the case, then birth control pills might be the best option for you. If your dermatologist can prescribe one with an androgen blocker in it then that should reduce the acne and hair growth if you give it enough time. It won't be an instant miracle cure but if this is what's causing your acne (which sounds very likely) then it is definitely a long-term treatment to consider.


My Current Treatment Plan

Morning: Lymecycline

Evening: Dianette + Epiduo

Diet: eliminated dairy

My Log:

Acne status: continuing to break out, so demoralising!

"I would rather learn what it feels like to burn than feel nothing at all." ~ Ron Pope


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Hey Irma, even if your blood tests didn't show anything "abnormal" about your hormones it is still possible that they are out of balance. Mine are completely out of balance but my recent blood tests also came back "normal". I believe there is a range that is considered within "normal" but it sounds to me like you have too much androgen activity or your system is more sensitive to androgen activity (either of which might cause acne and excessive hair growth).

If this is the case, then birth control pills might be the best option for you. If your dermatologist can prescribe one with an androgen blocker in it then that should reduce the acne and hair growth if you give it enough time. It won't be an instant miracle cure but if this is what's causing your acne (which sounds very likely) then it is definitely a long-term treatment to consider.

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No problem at all! I've just started taking birth control pills myself (1 month ago) because I'm sure my acne is caused by my hormones being out of balance. I don't really know what happens when you stop taking them but for me it was the only thing left for my severe acne other than Accutane so I was willing to try them. Given your situation, I think that birth control pills are very likely to work for both of your problems. You don't have to live with acne and excessive hair growth and you don't have to be miserable because of it! If you went to a doctor about your problems I'm sure they would also prescribe a birth control pill for you. I think for you it's just a case of getting the right one. You might also be able to speed up the process by using a topical and/or antibiotics for your acne alongside the birth control (this is what I am doing). What treatments have you tried so far?


My Current Treatment Plan

Morning: Lymecycline

Evening: Dianette + Epiduo

Diet: eliminated dairy

My Log:

Acne status: continuing to break out, so demoralising!

"I would rather learn what it feels like to burn than feel nothing at all." ~ Ron Pope


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I also think you have PCOS. I know some women get testd for PCOS and the test has come back negative, later other get tested again and it's positive. Also if you have cysts on your overies the can come and go they aren't present at all times. Instead of seeing a dermatologist for your issues, I would recommend seeing a endocrinologist they are much more knowledgeable with hormones. Hormones are their jobs.

Also you could give spironolactone a go for your breakouts and excess hair growth. Spiro mutes androgens so your acne wont have much of a chance to form and the medication also helps with excess hair growth. It should work great for you!


Regimen:

AM: CeraVe foaming face wash, 100mg Spirolactone

PM: CeraVe foaming face wash, witch hazel, Acne.org AHA+

Been taking Sprio since 1/2013


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No problem at all! I've just started taking birth control pills myself (1 month ago) because I'm sure my acne is caused by my hormones being out of balance. I don't really know what happens when you stop taking them but for me it was the only thing left for my severe acne other than Accutane so I was willing to try them. Given your situation, I think that birth control pills are very likely to work for both of your problems. You don't have to live with acne and excessive hair growth and you don't have to be miserable because of it! If you went to a doctor about your problems I'm sure they would also prescribe a birth control pill for you. I think for you it's just a case of getting the right one. You might also be able to speed up the process by using a topical and/or antibiotics for your acne alongside the birth control (this is what I am doing). What treatments have you tried so far?

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I have the same thing, hirsutism. I have excessive hair growth all over my body and it's embarrassing. I sometimes get a pimple in my back, but it's not even moderate. My facial acne is another story. I started getting acne when I turned 18 and I just turned 20, so for two years I have had facial acne. I have horrible facial hair, like not peach fuzz but visible thick black hairs in my face and neck. I am planning to do laser hair removal for my body, but considering I am a college student I am going to try and start with face and neck.

Since I am moving soon, I will not be going to an endocrinologist where I live now. But as soon as I move I will certainly make sure to take all the tests to figure out if I have PCOS. I have regular periods, so lets see what happens. I still have two of the common symptoms, acne and hirsutism.

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No problem at all! I've just started taking birth control pills myself (1 month ago) because I'm sure my acne is caused by my hormones being out of balance. I don't really know what happens when you stop taking them but for me it was the only thing left for my severe acne other than Accutane so I was willing to try them. Given your situation, I think that birth control pills are very likely to work for both of your problems. You don't have to live with acne and excessive hair growth and you don't have to be miserable because of it! If you went to a doctor about your problems I'm sure they would also prescribe a birth control pill for you. I think for you it's just a case of getting the right one. You might also be able to speed up the process by using a topical and/or antibiotics for your acne alongside the birth control (this is what I am doing). What treatments have you tried so far?

thank you so much again for your reply..my dermatolgist said that i should start taking birth control pills this september..are there any side effects? for my face when i went to the dermatolgist back in the may of 2012 i used these creams and gels; dicarbex (really good detergent) duac (i really like this gel) aknicare(i didnt really liked this one) epiduo (it didnt really worked for me) and now my dermatolgist prescribed me skinoren (that i started using yesterday) i also used this integrator called peracnil..

>I also think you have PCOS. I know some women get testd for PCOS and the test has come back negative, later other get tested again and it's positive. Also if you have cysts on your overies the can come and go they aren't present at all times. Instead of seeing a dermatologist for your issues, I would recommend seeing a endocrinologist they are much more knowledgeable with hormones. Hormones are their jobs.

Also you could give spironolactone a go for your breakouts and excess hair growth. Spiro mutes androgens so your acne wont have much of a chance to form and the medication also helps with excess hair growth. It should work great for you!


My Current Treatment Plan

Morning: Lymecycline

Evening: Dianette + Epiduo

Diet: eliminated dairy

My Log:

Acne status: continuing to break out, so demoralising!

"I would rather learn what it feels like to burn than feel nothing at all." ~ Ron Pope


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Hey Irma, even if your blood tests didn't show anything "abnormal" about your hormones it is still possible that they are out of balance. Mine are completely out of balance but my recent blood tests also came back "normal". I believe there is a range that is considered within "normal" but it sounds to me like you have too much androgen activity or your system is more sensitive to androgen activity (either of which might cause acne and excessive hair growth).

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Irma, are you in Europe? European doctors use ultrasound to diagnose PCOS, whereas in the US they diagnose it based on blood testing and, more often, just by going over your symptoms. Both diagnoses have their flaws, and you really do need to look at the various ratios (e.g., LH to FSH as MaskedOne mentioned, estrogen to progesterone, testosterone/ free testosterone to estrogen, etc). The rations need to be balanced. The issue with birth control and spironolactone is that they come in standardized doses. With birth control, you not only get the hormone you need, you will most likely get other hormones too - for instance, if you are deficient in progesterone, you will most likely be prescribed birth control with both estrogen and progesterone. If you want to customize the type and amount of hormones you get, you will need to see a doctor specializing in bioidentical hormone therapy, which is expensive but it will give you the right amount of hormones for your body and you will be monitored monthly to adjust the dose.

Other things you can do to manage your PCOS: avoid dairy, follow a low carb & low sugar diet, get regular exercise, minimize your stress, get some sun/ vitamin D and a good multivitamin. You can keep it under control with a healthy diet. As for the body/facial hair, I used to get electrolysis, which works but it's slow, and I also tried laser hair removal but it can trigger dormant hair and eventually make the problem worse (this only happened on my face, the other areas I treated responded really well to laser).


Current regimen: garlic supplements [as needed], Enzymedica gluten blocker [as needed], nicadan [not sure if it works yet]. I try to simplify as much as I can. Don't take more supplements than you need....try one at a time and be patient.

The supplements that really helped me when my acne was at its worst: inositol, DIM [not as frequently now!] digestive enzymes [don't need them every day anymore, only on cheat days], herpanacine & vitamin C with rose hips/ low acid [not every day], regular sun exposure for vitamin D3, superoxide dismutase (SOD) enzyme supplements. NOTE: I do not recommend DIM for long term use, and I do not recommend hormonal creams without doctor supervision.

Lifestyle & Skin Care: acupuncture, regular exercise/ yoga, low histamine diet, avoiding unnecessary stress, balancing skin's PH (using Image Ormedics), using distilled/ filtered water to wash face, occasional high frequency facials...

 

Grocery list:

 

** Find the cause, find the cure **

** If you have a question for me, please ask it publicly so that others can benefit from the discussion**

 

 


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No problem at all! I've just started taking birth control pills myself (1 month ago) because I'm sure my acne is caused by my hormones being out of balance. I don't really know what happens when you stop taking them but for me it was the only thing left for my severe acne other than Accutane so I was willing to try them. Given your situation, I think that birth control pills are very likely to work for both of your problems. You don't have to live with acne and excessive hair growth and you don't have to be miserable because of it! If you went to a doctor about your problems I'm sure they would also prescribe a birth control pill for you. I think for you it's just a case of getting the right one. You might also be able to speed up the process by using a topical and/or antibiotics for your acne alongside the birth control (this is what I am doing). What treatments have you tried so far?

thank you so much again for your reply..my dermatolgist said that i should start taking birth control pills this september..are there any side effects? for my face when i went to the dermatolgist back in the may of 2012 i used these creams and gels; dicarbex (really good detergent) duac (i really like this gel) aknicare(i didnt really liked this one) epiduo (it didnt really worked for me) and now my dermatolgist prescribed me skinoren (that i started using yesterday) i also used this integrator called peracnil..

>I also think you have PCOS. I know some women get testd for PCOS and the test has come back negative, later other get tested again and it's positive. Also if you have cysts on your overies the can come and go they aren't present at all times. Instead of seeing a dermatologist for your issues, I would recommend seeing a endocrinologist they are much more knowledgeable with hormones. Hormones are their jobs.

Also you could give spironolactone a go for your breakouts and excess hair growth. Spiro mutes androgens so your acne wont have much of a chance to form and the medication also helps with excess hair growth. It should work great fo

r you!

thank you for your reply, i actually have thought about going to one..but since my parents are spending so many money for me i don't want to go..i don't know..i will try to talk about this with my mom, thank you for your reply again.

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About the body hair, Europeans do have more body hair, especially ones with Mediterranean background. So yes, part of it is hereditary and based on ethnicity and genetics unfortunately, I have the same problem. The only thing that temporarily slowed down the hair growth was saw palmetto, but not by much so it's not worth taking it just for that. If you can afford electrolysis with a good and clean aesthitician, then go for it.


Current regimen: garlic supplements [as needed], Enzymedica gluten blocker [as needed], nicadan [not sure if it works yet]. I try to simplify as much as I can. Don't take more supplements than you need....try one at a time and be patient.

The supplements that really helped me when my acne was at its worst: inositol, DIM [not as frequently now!] digestive enzymes [don't need them every day anymore, only on cheat days], herpanacine & vitamin C with rose hips/ low acid [not every day], regular sun exposure for vitamin D3, superoxide dismutase (SOD) enzyme supplements. NOTE: I do not recommend DIM for long term use, and I do not recommend hormonal creams without doctor supervision.

Lifestyle & Skin Care: acupuncture, regular exercise/ yoga, low histamine diet, avoiding unnecessary stress, balancing skin's PH (using Image Ormedics), using distilled/ filtered water to wash face, occasional high frequency facials...

 

Grocery list:

 

** Find the cause, find the cure **

** If you have a question for me, please ask it publicly so that others can benefit from the discussion**

 

 


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About the body hair, Europeans do have more body hair, especially ones with Mediterranean background. So yes, part of it is hereditary and based on ethnicity and genetics unfortunately, I have the same problem. The only thing that temporarily slowed down the hair growth was saw palmetto, but not by much so it's not worth taking it just for that. If you can afford electrolysis with a good and clean aesthitician, then go for it.

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About the body hair, Europeans do have more body hair, especially ones with Mediterranean background. So yes, part of it is hereditary and based on ethnicity and genetics unfortunately, I have the same problem. The only thing that temporarily slowed down the hair growth was saw palmetto, but not by much so it's not worth taking it just for that. If you can afford electrolysis with a good and clean aesthitician, then go for it.

oh yeah, i know...but it makes me feel so sad looking like a man..i will try birth control pills and i hope i will get better,thank you so much for your reply


Current regimen: garlic supplements [as needed], Enzymedica gluten blocker [as needed], nicadan [not sure if it works yet]. I try to simplify as much as I can. Don't take more supplements than you need....try one at a time and be patient.

The supplements that really helped me when my acne was at its worst: inositol, DIM [not as frequently now!] digestive enzymes [don't need them every day anymore, only on cheat days], herpanacine & vitamin C with rose hips/ low acid [not every day], regular sun exposure for vitamin D3, superoxide dismutase (SOD) enzyme supplements. NOTE: I do not recommend DIM for long term use, and I do not recommend hormonal creams without doctor supervision.

Lifestyle & Skin Care: acupuncture, regular exercise/ yoga, low histamine diet, avoiding unnecessary stress, balancing skin's PH (using Image Ormedics), using distilled/ filtered water to wash face, occasional high frequency facials...

 

Grocery list:

 

** Find the cause, find the cure **

** If you have a question for me, please ask it publicly so that others can benefit from the discussion**

 

 


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About the body hair, Europeans do have more body hair, especially ones with Mediterranean background. So yes, part of it is hereditary and based on ethnicity and genetics unfortunately, I have the same problem. The only thing that temporarily slowed down the hair growth was saw palmetto, but not by much so it's not worth taking it just for that. If you can afford electrolysis with a good and clean aesthitician, then go for it.

oh yeah, i know...but it makes me feel so sad looking like a man..i will try birth control pills and i hope i will get better,thank you so much for your reply

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About the body hair, Europeans do have more body hair, especially ones with Mediterranean background. So yes, part of it is hereditary and based on ethnicity and genetics unfortunately, I have the same problem. The only thing that temporarily slowed down the hair growth was saw palmetto, but not by much so it's not worth taking it just for that. If you can afford electrolysis with a good and clean aesthitician, then go for it.

oh yeah, i know...but it makes me feel so sad looking like a man..i will try birth control pills and i hope i will get better,thank you so much for your reply

If you decide to try birth control, also ask for an anti-androgen like androcur to balance the estrogen and progesterone. And ask the doctor to check all your hormones, including minor ones and also your vitamin D levels and zinc. Very important for PCOS. If you are prone to depression, be careful with birth control because it can make it worse.


Current regimen: garlic supplements [as needed], Enzymedica gluten blocker [as needed], nicadan [not sure if it works yet]. I try to simplify as much as I can. Don't take more supplements than you need....try one at a time and be patient.

The supplements that really helped me when my acne was at its worst: inositol, DIM [not as frequently now!] digestive enzymes [don't need them every day anymore, only on cheat days], herpanacine & vitamin C with rose hips/ low acid [not every day], regular sun exposure for vitamin D3, superoxide dismutase (SOD) enzyme supplements. NOTE: I do not recommend DIM for long term use, and I do not recommend hormonal creams without doctor supervision.

Lifestyle & Skin Care: acupuncture, regular exercise/ yoga, low histamine diet, avoiding unnecessary stress, balancing skin's PH (using Image Ormedics), using distilled/ filtered water to wash face, occasional high frequency facials...

 

Grocery list:

 

** Find the cause, find the cure **

** If you have a question for me, please ask it publicly so that others can benefit from the discussion**

 

 


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About the body hair, Europeans do have more body hair, especially ones with Mediterranean background. So yes, part of it is hereditary and based on ethnicity and genetics unfortunately, I have the same problem. The only thing that temporarily slowed down the hair growth was saw palmetto, but not by much so it's not worth taking it just for that. If you can afford electrolysis with a good and clean aesthitician, then go for it.

oh yeah, i know...but it makes me feel so sad looking like a man..i will try birth control pills and i hope i will get better,thank you so much for your reply

If you decide to try birth control, also ask for an anti-androgen like androcur to balance the estrogen and progesterone. And ask the doctor to check all your hormones, including minor ones and also your vitamin D levels and zinc. Very important for PCOS. If you are prone to depression, be careful with birth control because it can make it worse.

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About the body hair, Europeans do have more body hair, especially ones with Mediterranean background. So yes, part of it is hereditary and based on ethnicity and genetics unfortunately, I have the same problem. The only thing that temporarily slowed down the hair growth was saw palmetto, but not by much so it's not worth taking it just for that. If you can afford electrolysis with a good and clean aesthitician, then go for it.

oh yeah, i know...but it makes me feel so sad looking like a man..i will try birth control pills and i hope i will get better,thank you so much for your reply

If you decide to try birth control, also ask for an anti-androgen like androcur to balance the estrogen and progesterone. And ask the doctor to check all your hormones, including minor ones and also your vitamin D levels and zinc. Very important for PCOS. If you are prone to depression, be careful with birth control because it can make it worse.

it will work just for the time i will use it..right? then when i will stop everything will come back like it was before or even worse..id rather have it like it is now than have it worse, it will not work on me like every other thing i tried..the doctors i went to said that i do not have PCOS..i wish i had tho..id know the cause of all of that..


Current regimen: garlic supplements [as needed], Enzymedica gluten blocker [as needed], nicadan [not sure if it works yet]. I try to simplify as much as I can. Don't take more supplements than you need....try one at a time and be patient.

The supplements that really helped me when my acne was at its worst: inositol, DIM [not as frequently now!] digestive enzymes [don't need them every day anymore, only on cheat days], herpanacine & vitamin C with rose hips/ low acid [not every day], regular sun exposure for vitamin D3, superoxide dismutase (SOD) enzyme supplements. NOTE: I do not recommend DIM for long term use, and I do not recommend hormonal creams without doctor supervision.

Lifestyle & Skin Care: acupuncture, regular exercise/ yoga, low histamine diet, avoiding unnecessary stress, balancing skin's PH (using Image Ormedics), using distilled/ filtered water to wash face, occasional high frequency facials...

 

Grocery list:

 

** Find the cause, find the cure **

** If you have a question for me, please ask it publicly so that others can benefit from the discussion**

 

 


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Hey Irma,it's kind of late reply but, I have a possible solution.

I have battled with really terrible acne before when i was about 14/15, it has cleared now.

I went to a beauty salon and had a glycolic acid peel, followed by some microdermabrasion facials (i now get like 2 of these a year), these were basically facials that removed/exfoliated the top layer of skin (which is also great for removing marks, and was painless), I reacted really well to it, there was hardly any redness or discomfort. Then i tried to use products from the dermalogica brand, but they're kind of pricey so after my first batch ran out I started using over the counter stuff, which has been doing fine in keeping the acne away now.

Also, the excessive body hairs, I started getting really thick hairs on my chest area and my stomach after i stopped taking hair growing supplements. I tried shaving but then it got worse and then I tried plucking and that gives me a lot of ingrown hairs. But recently I have been using a skin serum called Inhibitif and its supposed to reduce hair growth and thickness. I cannot swear by it just yet but so far I have already noticed that the hair on the areas that i apply has actually started to grow thinner. Some people notice results after like 3 weeks but I think it took more like 6 weeks for me to start seeing some improvements really, but it's a big bottle which cost £30/$60 but that's way better than the price for laser hair removal.

Hope this helps,

If you want to know more just let me know :)

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