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#1 Bacterion

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 11:32 PM

Hi guys,

 

I've come here to share a great solution for some people who have not been breastfed by their own mothers for the entire recommended period of time and, as such, their immune system was not able to fully absorb all nutritients needed to naturally fight infections.

 

As many of you out there, I've tried everything besides Accutane and nothing has worked. Topicals would just make my skin red and inflamed and my chest, back and shoulder acne would not respond to them at all. My acne has been mild to moderate throughout highschool and college (I'm 23 now), having had everything but cysts.

 

There's this protein called Praventin, which is composed of lactoferrin and other minerals that me and 2 of my friends been taking for 3 months daily and it literally cleared our skins up. We only have 2-3 bumps on the jawline that are probably caused by the heat. This will certainly not work for everybody, which is why I've stated the main cause - which I have discovered myself - not having been breastfed. It has also completely banished the redness and my skin looks really smooth and it's kind of glowing but not shining.

 

There are many different brands out there and I think they're all the same, it depends on what you can find in your country.

 

If the cause of not being breastfed does not apply to you, there are other causes that require other treatments. I just wanted to save a few fellows out here who might not be aware of this.

 

So, if you're in the same position as we've been - give it a shot, it will be worthy! :D



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Posted 23 July 2013 - 12:57 AM

This is really interesting! What is the recommended length of breastfeeding time? I asked my mom and she breast-fed me for about a year.



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Posted 23 July 2013 - 04:49 AM

Interesting!

 

I was never breastfed and I always say that's why I'm not as intelligent as I could have been and maybe why I have so many body ailments. I am a firm believer that breast feeding is imperative to a child's health. You don't see pigs making up a formula to give their piglets! 

 

We as humans can be pretty selfish. 



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Posted 23 July 2013 - 08:12 AM

I was breastfed for a long period of time and have hormonal acne. My husband was not breastfed and he has never had acne. Like anything, it's different for everyone.



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Posted 23 July 2013 - 10:51 AM

A year is the normal period of time.

 

Like I've said, there are many different causes, but I had acne caused by this and another reason is that my immune system was also weaker than that of a healthy human. I'd get a flu only by going outside in the winter, not matter how overdressed I was.

 

Hormones are an entirely different issue. My acne was not hormonal because I never had oily skin, it's always been normal to dry (mostly on the lower part of face). Well, it did get oily but only if I rubbed it too hard with harsh soaps lol.

 

For that there are other methods of treatment and I think Praventin would not do anything to you...


Edited by Bacterion, 23 July 2013 - 10:53 AM.


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Posted 23 July 2013 - 09:37 PM

This is an interesting idea. Maybe you know if this is similar to the immune issues experienced by babies that are delivered by Caesarean instead of vaginally? Do you know of any scientific studies backing this up?

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 04:12 PM

Interesting..



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Posted 25 July 2013 - 05:21 PM

I have no idea about Caesarean - related immune problems, but there have to be some studies done on the internet...

 

My opinion on this matter:

 

Since babies born that way have weaker immune systems it's highly possible! But in their case I don't think it's a milk protein they're missing, but rather something else... if they're not born naturally they have not absorbed enough nutrients through the umbilical cord (in the case of those born before their time) and need something else like globulin gamma - which is has similar compounds to the plaque that protect the baby inside the mother (I can't remember its scientific name now lol).

 

There was a study on the internet regarding praventin effects on acne and it was something like the control group had cleared approximately 50% of their acne after 2 months of use and 95% after 3 months, but the study was conducted by a company that produces supplements with it, so don't trust it entirely. It won't work for everyone!



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Posted 25 July 2013 - 07:53 PM

I was breastfed for over a year. My parents were major hippies and I was born vaginally, at home in my parents bed...zero medications. My mom only ate organic, homemade and homegrown everything. Milk from the cow down the street, vegetables and fruit from the backyard garden. Honey from the apiary neighbor. I was raised on a diet of the same. I had severe acne (even after 2 rounds of accutane) for 25+ years, up until a few months ago.

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 02:55 AM

I was breastfed as well but not sure for how long yet i still got acne because of my genes. :( I think it does not applies to all. Still, a case to case basis.



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 04:51 PM

I hope you guys find the right treatments... comfort.gif



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 10:29 PM

I was breast-fed until I was about 2. My parents were kinda hippy lol We lived out in the country, I was born at home, we ate organic and pretty much from our own stuff we grew ... Even though breastfeeding is good for developing your immune system and fighting infection, acne is different. It becomes an infection over time but is not started that way. I would think it wouldn't make a huge difference

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 05:45 PM

I was breastfed for about 6 months. My acne is diet related, though. Of this I am sure. 



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Posted 25 August 2013 - 06:27 PM

Has anyone ever tried echinacea to help boost the immune system?



I honestly think the whole debate on breast feeding and formula is ridiculous.. you get all of your essential vitamins either way. Formula is designed to replicate the vitamins from breast milk. It just costs money and breast milk doesn't, which to me is a bigger reason to breast feed than anything else.

 

I do agree however with immune deficiencies. You are on the right track.



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Posted 03 September 2013 - 01:00 PM

Part of the benefit of being breastfed is that you receive flora (good bacteria) directly from breastmilk, and they set up shop in your body in a small, important window of time. That window of time as a young infant is the ONLY time when you can permanently "colonize" your gut with good bacteria. This is why people who need probiotics must take them for...forever, basically. We have no real evidence that adult bodies are capable of re-colonizing a gut that has been stripped of good bacteria by antibiotics. Probiotics will survive for a while in an adult body, but they won't make permanent microbiomes.

 

The point being, that if your mother did not have the right balance of good bacteria (either because HER mother didn't, or because she had a few rounds of antibiotics), then one of the main benefits of being breastfed won't apply to you. 


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Posted 16 September 2013 - 02:02 PM

This makes sense, and it definitely won't apply to everyone. I was always wondering why my acupuncturist asked me if I was breastfed as a child. And this question also came up when I saw an integrative doctor - she asked me the same question but didn't go into detail about why it was important. 



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 09:23 PM

Part of the benefit of being breastfed is that you receive flora (good bacteria) directly from breastmilk, and they set up shop in your body in a small, important window of time. That window of time as a young infant is the ONLY time when you can permanently "colonize" your gut with good bacteria. This is why people who need probiotics must take them for...forever, basically. We have no real evidence that adult bodies are capable of re-colonizing a gut that has been stripped of good bacteria by antibiotics. Probiotics will survive for a while in an adult body, but they won't make permanent microbiomes.

 

The point being, that if your mother did not have the right balance of good bacteria (either because HER mother didn't, or because she had a few rounds of antibiotics), then one of the main benefits of being breastfed won't apply to you. 

This isn't entirely true. Your good bacteria di and will grow back after a near wipeout from antibiotics, but what grows back and in what quantities are hard to predict. And probiotics can't survive as they are being place from one environment into a totally foreign one. And to add to this, most of them are dairy or soil organisms that your body / bacteria treat as intruders. So on top of a dramtic enviroment changed, they are also subjegated to attack from your immune system. Not to say they are usless, but yeah, you have to take them forever.

 

More research into human probiotic infusion is being done, this hold the single greatest chance of repairing a severly damaged / out of whack microbiotia.



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 09:40 PM

Has anyone ever tried echinacea to help boost the immune system?



I honestly think the whole debate on breast feeding and formula is ridiculous.. you get all of your essential vitamins either way. Formula is designed to replicate the vitamins from breast milk. It just costs money and breast milk doesn't, which to me is a bigger reason to breast feed than anything else.

 

I do agree however with immune deficiencies. You are on the right track.

Has anyone ever tried echinacea to help boost the immune system? <- Wouldn't do this long term or in high doses.



I honestly think the whole debate on breast feeding and formula is ridiculous.. you get all of your essential vitamins either way. Formula is designed to replicate the vitamins from breast milk. It just costs money and breast milk doesn't, which to me is a bigger reason to breast feed than anything else. <---LOL (Sorry..)

 

I do agree however with immune deficiencies. You are on the right track. <-- Very likely

 

 

Bacteria play a major role in what is absorbed for use, and they eat what isnt and the "good" bacteria, are good because the by products they produce are benfital to you in some way (creates B vitamins, removes excess gasses, break up undigested debris ect.)

 

The "Bad" bacteria produce harmful toxins which your body now has to focus on removing, and are often pathogenetic, meaning they will spread and attempt to take over at any given oppurtunity, making them hard to remove. Breat milk, the colostrum in particular, are loaded with human probiotics meant to help digest many thing (mainly milk) and crowd all available space that bacteria can grow, before harmful, pathenogentic bacteria get to you. This is the single greatest reason for immune defeciency in cesearean delivery. SO i'd highly recommend if you want to give your kid the best shot, don't have any untill yo uhave been at least 3 years free of antibiotics or longer, and make sure you are in top health during throughout and after pregnancy to avoid antibiotics at all costs. And being healthy in general is always nothing but good.

 

Formula is a waste of time and money, by the time you are dont breast feeding, your kid is ready to strat learning how to eat and digest real food. And you can start with homemade blended fruits / vegetables / meat or what have you. For what reason can you logically think a man made contraption can be better than what we were initially designed to eat, which is real food / breat milk.... *confused*

 

And in my experience mothers dont breat feed for selfish reasons alone. (unless maybe you are too unhealthy too breast feed? In which case why are  you having a baby anyway?

Or is there any milk corruption diseases of some kind? Never heard of any ... but it's possible, I guess)



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 09:48 PM

Not breastfeeding is not really an issue of selfishness, it's simply an issue of ignorance because it's not an important part of our culture. I don't have kids, but most of the women I know with kids, simply don't know that breastfeeding is that much different from bottle feeding. If you try to explain it to them, it's not that they're stupid necessarily, but when you haven't spent hours researching health issues, all this talk about probiotics starts to sound like some New Age cult. They think you're crazy. They might get a What to Expect When You're Expecting book or two, but mostly follow mainstream social cues about what is "healthy" for their child or not. 

 

And it's not like most doctors today, or the main medical community, really accepts the probiotic idea yet. I have only had one doctor recommend probiotics after years and years of antibiotics, and actually all he did was tell me to eat some yogurt...which if you've done ANY research at all, you know is not enough to fix what antibiotics wipe out.

 

The sad fact is that many of the most educated people on health are also "too" educated to do the boring/tedious work of raising a family. So the people that are having children are not the people who have spent hours and hours researching health.

 

If more highly educated people were a little less selfish with their time and decided to take care of children, we might have healthier kids smile.png


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Posted 17 September 2013 - 07:26 AM

I asked my mom if I was breastfed, and she said only very briefly because her milk had blood in it and the doctor told her to give me formula instead. My sister got breastfed, and has fewer health issues than me. Hmmm. Breastfeeding could be a factor, maybe even stronger than genetics.  Now I understand why there's a black market for breastmilk.






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