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#1 determinedtowin

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 05:18 AM

Hi,

 

I suffered badly from acne years ago and have quite a bit of scarring. The camera doesn't seem to show as much when I actually click to take it but trust me it is redder than this! And it never seems to go away and, this has gone on for years! And I have tried EVERYTHING. It seems to be like scabby red skin.  I also have a few pits that are hard to see on the pictures but they are there

 

Any help VERY welcome!

 

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 08:04 AM

Your skin looks pretty awesome to me! But I know you said it's difficult to see in the camera, which I can understand because I have some scaring that other people don't seem to notice as much as I do. 

If you're concerned about the red marks you could try using a nightly AHA cream, or if they're really stubborn you could always look into using a 0.1% Retin-a (the strongest they have available.) If your skin can tolerate Retin-A and not break out.. then it is an amazing product that really helps with red marks, and sometimes after months it even seems to improve minor shallow scaring.

If it's the minor scar pits you're concerned about you could always look into laser resurfacing.. my scaring personally isn't what I would consider to be to serious compared to a lot, but I'm thinking of getting a couple session of Smartxide dot co2 laser, or maybe one session of Fraxel "re:pair".. from what I can see in your skin, I think that would also be quite effective.

Take a look into things, there are plenty of very effective options for your skin! (:



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 09:54 AM

The red is just annoying to be honest as its flat but gets irritated when I shave or rub it etc so I never know what it is.

The pits do bother me but the white marks have started to bother me where I've had cysts as they're becoming more and more visible.

Thanks for the reply :)

Anyone else got any thoughts?

Ps. I don't think the white marks would be as prominent if the redness went away. My derm seems reluctant to give me retina and I've had it before and it did help

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 11:39 AM

Do you use a razor for shaving? If so, have you considered using an electric shaver? I've just switched myself, as they tend to cause less irritation.

 

The stubble is a good look for you! Your skin looks pretty normal to me.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 11:46 AM

I use a beard trimmer so that I have stubble as it makes my skin look better but even that can irritate it. If you look very carefulyl at my right hand side picture (the last pic) I've got a red patch and a white patch next to each other. That red patch gets irritated and very red (it's hard to see on here) and the dermotologist doesn't even know what to do its just a flat shiny bit of skin which can look worse until I wash my face

I use a beard trimmer so that I have stubble as it makes my skin look better but even that can irritate it. If you look very carefulyl at my right hand side picture (the last pic) I've got a red patch and a white patch next to each other. That red patch gets irritated and very red (it's hard to see on here) and the dermotologist doesn't even know what to do its just a flat shiny bit of skin which can look worse until I wash my face. Oh and my foreh head is not like that! It's got lots of red marks

Sorry for no paragraphs and mistakes! Getting used to this iPhone!!

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 09:50 PM

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 05:01 AM

I've tried many drugstore, derm prescribed, and home remedies and the things that help me with old acne spots are this:

 

Glycolic acid-A thin layer under my night time moisturizer. Wow. My skin peeled over the next two days and some of the layers that came off even had a dark center where my acne marks are. I would do this the night before your weekend starts and see how it goes. The peeling sounds worse than it was. It really wasn't noticeable. My face was pretty red the next day but not awful. I do this once every 2 weeks. But if you have normal non-sensitive or allergy prone skin, you could do it once a week. 

 

Lemon juice- apply this at night with a cotton round and let it dry. No need to rinse. It's slow going on the marks, but it does help significantly. 

 

Aloe vera juice- apply it the same way. Reduced my redness very well and my most recent acne marks started fading. Old ones, takes longer. 

 

Witch Hazel- TN Dickinson's in the big bottle with the blue label. I basically just soak a cotton round and use it like a compress for about 10 seconds on each part of my face. Within a day or two, a piece of skin falls off and I'm left with a lighter spot. Pretty cool. 

 

That's what works for me. Hopefully one of them will help you out too!



One more thing- exfoliating with scrubs and scratchy things isn't great for me because of my skin type, but I used to use this neutrogena thing. I think it was called the wave. It was a little battery operated vibrating thing with a medicated pad on top. I just gently circulated that on my face and it definitely made my skin feel better. Nice and smooth. I've used baking soda with water too, but I was advised on here that it damages the skins natural oil barrier because it's very alkaline. Which is too bad, because I liked that even better. Again, I have fair, very thin, sensitive skin so I can't do this often. I just rely on my fingers during cleansing to get rid of dead skin. 

 

Currently, I'm really stuck on aztec clay masks. Love the way it feels. It does different things for my skin. Unclogging pores, slight exfoliation, tightens up pores temporarily and it doesn't cause any reactions for me. I can even use this a little more often since it's fairly gentle. 

Thanks for the reply. It's refreshing to hear stuff works for other people :)



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Posted 04 July 2013 - 10:40 AM

you do have a lot of underlying redness. Reminds me of my skin. Peels, retin-a wont really help with this. I will be undergoing Ipl treatments starting July 18. This I am told will not only help with hyperpigmentation but also with the redness in my skin. You may want to look into that or the v-beam laser. Also important to wear a physical sunscreen everyday vs. a chemical sunscreen. Look for ss that has zinc in it.



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Posted 04 July 2013 - 11:18 AM

The sun isn't really a problem in the UK :D

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 02:54 AM

Any other ideas?!



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Posted 09 July 2013 - 04:27 AM

Does your skin get flaky? Could be a mild form of serb dermatitis perhaps... but if you have seen a derm then i'm sure she/he would highlighted this if were the case. For the scars (there look pretty mild to be honest) people have had great results with dermarollers. Are you still using any products on your face?



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Posted 09 July 2013 - 06:12 AM

Does your skin get flaky? Could be a mild form of serb dermatitis perhaps... but if you have seen a derm then i'm sure she/he would highlighted this if were the case. For the scars (there look pretty mild to be honest) people have had great results with dermarollers. Are you still using any products on your face?

Sometimes but that is due to me being on Roaccutane years ago to be honest. I use Cocoa Butter overnight which has helped so much. The day after shaving is a real pain as it dries my skin right out. I'm a bit bothered about scar treatments as I've seen Dermaroller do more harm than good. Have you had experience with it?



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Posted 09 July 2013 - 06:23 AM

Yeah mate I have heard that redness does persist after Roaccutane, some people have got laser (Vbeam and IPL) for it with a lot of success, however if cocoa butter is helping then that is great. I haven't personally used dermarolling no, however i have seen some great results; in saying that I haven't really heard how they do more harm? I know it can be frustrating to not be able to achieve the results you desire, but all in all your skin looks pretty good.



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Posted 09 July 2013 - 08:19 AM

Yeah mate I have heard that redness does persist after Roaccutane, some people have got laser (Vbeam and IPL) for it with a lot of success, however if cocoa butter is helping then that is great. I haven't personally used dermarolling no, however i have seen some great results; in saying that I haven't really heard how they do more harm? I know it can be frustrating to not be able to achieve the results you desire, but all in all your skin looks pretty good.

Thanks mate. You know how it is, some good days, some bad. Some people say they can't see it, some people ask how you got scarring (not nastily but it hurts still!)

 

My redness is weird cos it feels different to the rest of my skin but isn't acne (although it can flare up) is Vbeam available in the UK as it's one I've not seen  much of?



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Posted 09 July 2013 - 09:00 AM

Yeah, redness is a tricky topic, it really could be anything from scar tissue to a condition such as rosacea or serb dermatitis. Vbeam should be available in the UK, its pretty much similar to Intense pulsed light, however is much more effective for redness and post inflationary pigmentation. There is however downtime (little red marks, like poke-a-dots) that stay on your face for approx a week afterwards. If this seems like something your interested in you should do some research on it and consider your options. I really want to get it done but cant to take the time off work, which sucks.



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Posted 09 July 2013 - 05:02 PM

You look mature,so maybe you will appreciate this simple method.

 

http://www.food.com/...kin-types-41579



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Posted 09 July 2013 - 08:27 PM

Look into beta glucan liquid from Garden of Wisdom...this helps heal redness/ skin damage....also consider a general moisturizer like pure aloe vera or something from The Body Deli range...you could also try a natural hydrating facial vitamin spray/ mist...


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 08:51 AM

Hopefully this picture can give more of an idea of my 'pits'

 

Would dermaroller help?

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 06:44 PM

Your overall skin is quite good - so don't use any aggressive therapy...you could try single needling any pitted scars using a sterile syringe, lancet or single needle from owndoc.com (every 3-5 days for 3 weeks, then stop for month - and only puncture the pit 3 to 5 times only, leaving spaces of skin intact i.e. not punctured), followed by an application of fresh lemon lemon juice or vitamin c serum (see owndoc.com or clearskincareclinic.com.au) - remember it takes 2-3 months for collagen to reform so you won't see results until then...I don't think it would take more than 2 cycles to fill your pits (i.e. 4-6 months)...you could also use a short dermaroller i.e. 0.25mm (weekly) or 0.50mm (every 3 to 4 weeks) along vitamin c serum, beta glucan liquid or hyaluronic acid - but I don't think that's necessary at this stage in your case. You could consider a drop of two of copper peptides also, but not with the other products. 

Basically, with a healthy diet, beta glucan liquid topical (and possibly caps for internal use) & single needling your pitted scars, you should see your skin totally heal with 6-12 months. What might further help your overall complexion is a low-med strength retin a used once or twice per week only (don't go overboard or you'll thin your skin/ make it peel/ red). Retin a helps give your skin a smoother/ polished appearance. Use it for a year only. Then source a 100% natural, organic, gentle skincare range like Jes Oganics or The Body Deli to use thereafter. Just don't fuss with your skin too much....keep it simple & healthy....

Also, whatever you do, only treat the areas that need it and LEAVE the areas where your skin is healthy well alone. You can, however, apply beta glucan liquid to your entire face as it it highly beneficial for your skin.

As for peels, stay away from it in your case, and never use it conjunction with retin a. Cheers smile.png

PS If you need extra help after 3 months, you could test massaging your pitted skin with something like grapeseed oil/ primrose oil or avogen/ unprocessed avocado oil for 10-15 minutes post single needling too...I found this very helpful in my own case....(NB you can wash off the oil after the massage)....


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:31 AM

Thanks for the reply... Needling is definitely something I'm going to look at

I also think it'll help my right cheek as that is quite pitty. The only problem I have is I still have red patches that feel different to the rest of the skin and no one can work out what they are even a derm!




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