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Posted 16 November 2013 - 07:10 PM

I don't think you'd need an antibiotic. I'm still taking one (somewhat irregularly) in addition to Diane. Bascially I think it is still useful for me because I have these really persistant cysts in my cheeks that kind of fill in around certain times of the month. But if you have none of those I don't think you'd need it. Antibiotics are really weird, you know? Like they are a strange thing to prescribe for acne because they are totally just a bandaid in most cases. I'm trying to wean off them and rely on Diane alone since I know my acne's hormonal. If anything I'd go for a topical antibiotic, less invasive and probably more useful in the long run..

 

How red is your PIH? Mine was ridiculous and is now just pink (but still super obvious , ugh). Anyway, I really love acne.org AHA because it didn't make me breakout and it's gentle and basically replaces my nighttime moisturiser... I do think it is helping with marks and it makes everything nice and smooth. 



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 11:15 AM

I don't think you'd need an antibiotic. I'm still taking one (somewhat irregularly) in addition to Diane. Bascially I think it is still useful for me because I have these really persistant cysts in my cheeks that kind of fill in around certain times of the month. But if you have none of those I don't think you'd need it. Antibiotics are really weird, you know? Like they are a strange thing to prescribe for acne because they are totally just a bandaid in most cases. I'm trying to wean off them and rely on Diane alone since I know my acne's hormonal. If anything I'd go for a topical antibiotic, less invasive and probably more useful in the long run..

 

How red is your PIH? Mine was ridiculous and is now just pink (but still super obvious , ugh). Anyway, I really love acne.org AHA because it didn't make me breakout and it's gentle and basically replaces my nighttime moisturiser... I do think it is helping with marks and it makes everything nice and smooth. 

 

Yeah I think an antibiotic would be too much and the initial breakout would probably make things worse. Do you know of any other topical antibiotics outside of clindamycin?

 

And I would say my PIH is sort of like a dark, dull red. It's not very bright except for right at the beginning. Eventually it gets darker and the sides start to fade. They're fading pretty well on their own to be honest, but it's just because I have so much that it looks like a lot. I burned my face with dan's AHA once because I used way too much so now I'm a little hesitant lol :( but I'm starting to add some AHA into my moisturiser at night this week and I'm gonna do it right this time. :) 



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 11:54 AM

I don't think you'd need an antibiotic. I'm still taking one (somewhat irregularly) in addition to Diane. Bascially I think it is still useful for me because I have these really persistant cysts in my cheeks that kind of fill in around certain times of the month. But if you have none of those I don't think you'd need it. Antibiotics are really weird, you know? Like they are a strange thing to prescribe for acne because they are totally just a bandaid in most cases. I'm trying to wean off them and rely on Diane alone since I know my acne's hormonal. If anything I'd go for a topical antibiotic, less invasive and probably more useful in the long run..

 

How red is your PIH? Mine was ridiculous and is now just pink (but still super obvious , ugh). Anyway, I really love acne.org AHA because it didn't make me breakout and it's gentle and basically replaces my nighttime moisturiser... I do think it is helping with marks and it makes everything nice and smooth. 

 

Yeah I think an antibiotic would be too much and the initial breakout would probably make things worse. Do you know of any other topical antibiotics outside of clindamycin?

 

And I would say my PIH is sort of like a dark, dull red. It's not very bright except for right at the beginning. Eventually it gets darker and the sides start to fade. They're fading pretty well on their own to be honest, but it's just because I have so much that it looks like a lot. I burned my face with dan's AHA once because I used way too much so now I'm a little hesitant lol sad.png but I'm starting to add some AHA into my moisturiser at night this week and I'm gonna do it right this time. smile.png

No, I don't know of any.. sorry. 

Yeah, some of my oldest ones almost seem to be a brownish colour, a little darker than my natural skin tone. I'm hoping they're on their way out!

I wish I could see more improvement in mine but I think I just check it way too often so nothing seems different week to week. Anyway, in certain lights it is hardly visible so I guess that is something of an improvement.



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Posted 19 November 2013 - 01:22 AM

End of pack 6, 4.5 months of Diane!

 

So..............my skin is looking pretty good................and I'm scared I'm jinxing myself again LOL. I get SCARED when I feel like I'm clear cause I'm getting sick of this cycle. But I'm hoping that I've been on it long enough for things to STAY good.

 

Anyway, I've been using the clindamycin phosphate liquid and...I dunno, it seems ok? I also don't have any active spots at the moment so I just used it on my closed comedones, or spots that feel like they might turn into zits or something. I started incorporating a bit of AHA into my moisturiser at night, about a little less than half. I am willing to stick with this for months if it means I can see the results that I want to see. Ideally I'd like to see an improvement by January - would be a nice way to ring in the near year! 

 

I don't think I will be going for antibiotics, unless for whatever reason, my acne suddenly worsens (knock on wood!!!). I'm not sure what I should do about my clogged pores though. I was thinking about Paula's Choice BHA...but between clindamycin phosphate, AHA, and the occasional benzoyl peroxide for spot treatment, I wouldn't know where to incorporate the BHA, and I would also feel like I'm just putting way too much STUFF on my face, y'know?

 

I should also mention that I am skipping my period this month...and will likely be skipping it the next few times. I am planning to have 4 periods per year because it's just so much easier! I hate getting my period, and as far as I know, it's perfectly safe. :D


Edited by Tatii, 19 November 2013 - 01:24 AM.


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Posted 28 November 2013 - 12:52 AM

1 week until 5 months of being on Diane...

 

Honestly, here's the main reason why I keep breaking out still: I am sleeping with my make up on a lot more than I should...but I sleep over at my boyfriend's so often that I can't go to bed with at least something to cover it up. So I know I'm delaying my own progress *sigh*. But I'm trying to wear less and less.

 

Also I started using AHA at night, half and half with my moisturiser, for about 4x/week. I've been using it for 1.5 weeks now I guess? I think I just got over my initial breakout, but it seems like it's working. Honestly sometimes it feels like I have so much PIH that it's hard to really tell if they're fading or not. 

 

Not much else to update. I guess the texture of my skin is improving slowly? I have been SOOOOOOOOOOO patient with Diane that I'm sort of at my limit now. It's not to say that it's not working, but I guess I'm really not doing my skin any favours. SADJFSLDFJ maybe I should just stop sleeping over so much 'cause there's no way around that. 



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Posted 02 December 2013 - 08:48 AM

End of month 5

 

I am just about healed from my last break out......as per usual. I WILL say this though, I noticed in these past few days that my skin is a LOT smoother around the areas that I had closed comedones and such. I don't know if this is a recent change?? But I am positive now that my clogged pores are just coming to a head and then going away. I know i've say this before but I also wasn't 100% sure cause it's kind of hard to keep track when you have so many of them....but today when I was applying moisturiser it felt really smooth. 

 

So, I mean, I guess it's working PAINFULLY SLOWLY. I think the AHA has been helping though! I've used it for about 2ish weeks now....and I hope I've gotten over any initial breakout. I'm hoping what I had last week was it because I don't want to deal with another one during Christmas time sad.png. A lot of my marks have gotten lighter, though they're still there. My skin feels really soft as well, despite the couple of zits I have left on my jawline. 

 

The clindamycin phosphate has been.......sort of whatever. I mean I don't know, my regimen now at night is Cetaphil oily skin cleanser -> clindamycin phosphate (liquid) -> 1/2 AHA + 1/2 Cetaphil moisturising lotion -> 5% BP spot treatment... so it's sort of hard to tell if the clindamycin itself is doing anything lol. I resorted back to the 5% BP I used for like 6 years before I switched to Dan's 2.5%. I know he says 5% is too harsh, but his BP screwed up my face so badly sad.png that's why I had to go on the pill and everything in the first place. This 5% one has never caused any burning, excessive drying, flaking, etc, even when I use almost the same amount as Dan's recommended amount (though I don't follow the DKR anymore). For anyone who's curious for an alternative BP gel, the brand I use is Benzagel (5). 


Edited by Tatii, 02 December 2013 - 08:49 AM.


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Posted 10 December 2013 - 07:15 AM

5.25 months:

 

So I'm currently in my "clear" face, and I am crossing my fingers because I feel good about this month and I'm hoping it'll stay this way.... BUT I am really happy about one thing in particular...

 

My PIH is fading!! And it's fading QUITE fast! Ever since I incorporated AHA like 3 weeks ago they've been getting lighter and lighter. At first I thought it was just a trick of the light, or that they had been fading for a while now, but this morning when I looked at it, it looked a lot lighter than before! Also the texture of my skin is really smooth and a lot of my clogged pores have gone away - either they've turned into white heads or the AHA has just unclogged them I guess? BEST DECISION OF MY LIFE. Now I just hope my acne is under control. 3 more weeks until I've been on Diane for 6 full months. 



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Posted 10 December 2013 - 02:47 PM

5.25 months:

 

So I'm currently in my "clear" face, and I am crossing my fingers because I feel good about this month and I'm hoping it'll stay this way.... BUT I am really happy about one thing in particular...

 

My PIH is fading!! And it's fading QUITE fast! Ever since I incorporated AHA like 3 weeks ago they've been getting lighter and lighter. At first I thought it was just a trick of the light, or that they had been fading for a while now, but this morning when I looked at it, it looked a lot lighter than before! Also the texture of my skin is really smooth and a lot of my clogged pores have gone away - either they've turned into white heads or the AHA has just unclogged them I guess? BEST DECISION OF MY LIFE. Now I just hope my acne is under control. 3 more weeks until I've been on Diane for 6 full months. 

Can you tell me how red your PIH was initally? I've been using AHA for like 2 months now and I don't know that mine has really faded all that much :( Just wondering for comparison to know that it is actually working for me (if yours weren't as red as mine that'd explain why mine's not so faded). Right now my jaw and cheeks are covered in pinkish brown marks.. they're mostly from cystic spots that lingered on my face for months at a time. My progress with fading them really seems to have slowed in the past month. I do use sunscreen every day so I don't think it's sun damage slowing it. I also noticed my AHA cream doesn't sting any more when I put it on. 

 

It's just disheartening since my skin's been clear for a couple months now and the PIH is still persistently there and noticeable



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Posted 10 December 2013 - 10:00 PM

5.25 months:

 

So I'm currently in my "clear" face, and I am crossing my fingers because I feel good about this month and I'm hoping it'll stay this way.... BUT I am really happy about one thing in particular...

 

My PIH is fading!! And it's fading QUITE fast! Ever since I incorporated AHA like 3 weeks ago they've been getting lighter and lighter. At first I thought it was just a trick of the light, or that they had been fading for a while now, but this morning when I looked at it, it looked a lot lighter than before! Also the texture of my skin is really smooth and a lot of my clogged pores have gone away - either they've turned into white heads or the AHA has just unclogged them I guess? BEST DECISION OF MY LIFE. Now I just hope my acne is under control. 3 more weeks until I've been on Diane for 6 full months. 

Can you tell me how red your PIH was initally? I've been using AHA for like 2 months now and I don't know that mine has really faded all that much sad.png Just wondering for comparison to know that it is actually working for me (if yours weren't as red as mine that'd explain why mine's not so faded). Right now my jaw and cheeks are covered in pinkish brown marks.. they're mostly from cystic spots that lingered on my face for months at a time. My progress with fading them really seems to have slowed in the past month. I do use sunscreen every day so I don't think it's sun damage slowing it. I also noticed my AHA cream doesn't sting any more when I put it on. 

 

It's just disheartening since my skin's been clear for a couple months now and the PIH is still persistently there and noticeable

 

Um some were new, so they were kind of more fresh/bright red. Some are pretty old so they're kinda dull - the duller ones got duller/faded around the edges and the brighter ones got duller too. They're kind of just getting smaller and smaller. I should add in my update that I still have a LOT of PIH - I've by no means gotten 'rid' of them. They're just showing improvement! I guess by 'fast' I just meant faster than doing nothing at all, haha, which is what I've done for the past 7 years that I've had acne. Honestly it'll probably take me half a year to really clear away my marks because I have so many and have had them for so long. 

 

The AHA still stings, and I use about 2/3 AHA and 1/3 moisturiser..but my skin is pretty sensitive. Also I've never had cystic acne so I don't know if the PIH left behind might be different? I primarily get inflammatory whiteheads..and depending on the size (and how much I've picked at it, unfortunately), it leaves a light pink to a bright red mark. Are you using Dan's AHA?



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Posted 10 December 2013 - 10:21 PM

 

5.25 months:

 

So I'm currently in my "clear" face, and I am crossing my fingers because I feel good about this month and I'm hoping it'll stay this way.... BUT I am really happy about one thing in particular...

 

My PIH is fading!! And it's fading QUITE fast! Ever since I incorporated AHA like 3 weeks ago they've been getting lighter and lighter. At first I thought it was just a trick of the light, or that they had been fading for a while now, but this morning when I looked at it, it looked a lot lighter than before! Also the texture of my skin is really smooth and a lot of my clogged pores have gone away - either they've turned into white heads or the AHA has just unclogged them I guess? BEST DECISION OF MY LIFE. Now I just hope my acne is under control. 3 more weeks until I've been on Diane for 6 full months. 

Can you tell me how red your PIH was initally? I've been using AHA for like 2 months now and I don't know that mine has really faded all that much sad.png Just wondering for comparison to know that it is actually working for me (if yours weren't as red as mine that'd explain why mine's not so faded). Right now my jaw and cheeks are covered in pinkish brown marks.. they're mostly from cystic spots that lingered on my face for months at a time. My progress with fading them really seems to have slowed in the past month. I do use sunscreen every day so I don't think it's sun damage slowing it. I also noticed my AHA cream doesn't sting any more when I put it on. 

 

It's just disheartening since my skin's been clear for a couple months now and the PIH is still persistently there and noticeable

 

Um some were new, so they were kind of more fresh/bright red. Some are pretty old so they're kinda dull - the duller ones got duller/faded around the edges and the brighter ones got duller too. They're kind of just getting smaller and smaller. I should add in my update that I still have a LOT of PIH - I've by no means gotten 'rid' of them. They're just showing improvement! I guess by 'fast' I just meant faster than doing nothing at all, haha, which is what I've done for the past 7 years that I've had acne. Honestly it'll probably take me half a year to really clear away my marks because I have so many and have had them for so long. 

 

The AHA still stings, and I use about 2/3 AHA and 1/3 moisturiser..but my skin is pretty sensitive. Also I've never had cystic acne so I don't know if the PIH left behind might be different? I primarily get inflammatory whiteheads..and depending on the size (and how much I've picked at it, unfortunately), it leaves a light pink to a bright red mark. Are you using Dan's AHA?

Yeah, I am. 

 

Thanks for replying :) I guess patience is key. 

I also noticed that the marks seem to get smaller, rather than fading one by one. Overall the colouring on my face is still the same pattern, but it's lighter.



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Posted 22 December 2013 - 01:04 PM

5.5 months into Diane...almost 6 months, wow!

 

RECENTLY, my skin has been very clear! I think the last time I posted about my skin was almost 2 weeks ago, and I've NEVER had consistently clear skin for 2 whole weeks. WELL, when I say clear...I still usually have 1 active. But it's small, and will go away really quickly! It's annoying to find another one slowly popping up somewhere else, BUT for me to only have ONE active on my face at a tiem is a HUGE improvement. 

 

I've been using the AHA for a month now and it is amazing! Yes it works a little slowly - I don't use it every night because I think my face is just very sensitive, or at least it'll take time before I reach that point where my skin can adjust. But the scars on my left cheek have faded substantially! I've been getting new zits exclusively on my right cheek...so it's been leaving some fresh marks unfortunately, and my skin is the kind where it will leave a mark even if you leave it alone and don't even treat it. But my old marks have also faded significantly if you look past the new ones. Even my friends have commented that my skin has been looking clearer, which is such a confidence boost for me!

 

I am still prepared for another break out, even though it's the longest I've gone without a terrible break out, I'm still trying to be diligent about my skin care routine. I know for some people 6 months was the turning point for them and I'm pretty sure I'm one of those people, with the way my skin is. I'm super happy because I REALLY didn't want to go on any oral antibiotics in the new year. I think I'll give it until the end of January, once I'm well across the 6 month mark, to see if antibiotics is something I seriously need to consider. Otherwise, I'm hoping my hyperpigmentation will practically be gone by the time summer rolls around! 



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Posted 27 December 2013 - 09:12 AM

5.75 months 

 

I still haven't gotten any breakouts! I only have small closed comedones and they sometimes turn into zits, but literally go away either within the day, or overnight. Sometimes even without the BP for spot treatment! The quality of my skin is looking better and better too thanks to the AHA. The only thing is I left my AHA at my mom's place so I'll have to go a week without it :(! But I'll be making a trip home next week to pick it up because I can't be without it! 

 

Things are looking really good though :) I guess the wait was worth it after all!



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Posted 11 January 2014 - 09:08 AM

6 months

 

I can't believe I've actually been so patient with Diane and waited a full HALF YEAR...but I have definitely seen results! I still get 1 zit about once a week, but they are always very small and go away quickly, so I will take this as a victory! I've also been using AHA for just about over a month now and it is fantastic! It's almost like i can see results overnight! However, I have a LOT of PIH so while they're fading at the edges, a lot of them are still really noticeable. But i'm willing to wait until summer for them to fade.

 

The overall texture of my skin has improved a lot and I'm pretty sure that's all the AHA. Most of my closed comedones are gone now as I used to have a lot. I also noticed that the blackheads on my nose are all gone. Not that I had a ton of them - they were only noticeable if you looked really up close and focused on that area, but that was really the least of my problems. I guess my fight with active acne....is basically OVER! After 10 LONG YEARS of fighting it.......I finally feel clear! I'm ready for the next battle...my PIH. But hey as long as my skin stays clear, I don't really mind waiting again. :D



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Posted 12 January 2014 - 08:35 AM

Hey Tatii - Congrats :) what AHA are you using? xx

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 11:33 PM

Hey Tatii - Congrats smile.png what AHA are you using? xx

 

Thank you!

 

I am using Dan's AHA :) 



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Posted 22 January 2014 - 08:41 AM

6.5 months

 

So I just started my 'period week' for the first time in 4 months as I've just been skipping it....and I'm super nervous! I've already had a few spots but they're all flat now....I think my problem is seriously that I pick too much. They always leave a mark whether I pick at it or not BUT they could be soo much smaller if I just leave them alone. And because I pick, they always end up as open wounds that take forever to heal. The AHA's been good to my skin but now that a lot of them are lighter, the newer, darker ones stick out SO MUCH. I mean I guess that's better than having a million dark marks everywhere...but it's just an eye sore. 

 

I'm considering doing one of those lactic acid peels to hopefully speed up the process. I'm also considering switching back to clindoxyl gel because I'm getting lazy...it's so much work applying clindamycin first and then spot treating with bp. 

 

Hopefully my skin will be all healed up by the end of next week and there will be no new breakouts during my period! My boyfriend's terrified i'm going to be crazy moody this week since he hasn't had to deal with my PMS in months now haha. :P



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Posted 25 January 2014 - 10:07 AM

It's only been 3 days since my last update but all my open-wound spots from picking have healed! I put on polysporin like all day/all night so it healed pretty quickly. Then I slathered on AHA and a lot of the spots have already faded!

 

I've only got 2 spots now, but they're not even really pimples? They're flesh coloured bumps that are really small, and they don't hurt when you touch them and it's just a slight bump. But it's on my temple so my hair usually covers it. I've been using BP on it but I feel like since it's not a "zit" it's not responding as well??

 

5 days into my period week and I have had no new breakouts!! Crossing my fingers >< 



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Posted 25 January 2014 - 10:27 AM

Hi, I was on Diane 35 for a while in my early 20s. I ended up having blood clots and immediately stopped. I don't smoke or have any relevant history. Of course, it doesn't mean you will have any problems, but just wanted to share as a reminder to pay attention to any symptoms you may have (leg pain, especially in the calf; headache that doesn't go away for more than a few hours; etc.). 



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Posted 25 January 2014 - 11:26 PM

Hi, I was on Diane 35 for a while in my early 20s. I ended up having blood clots and immediately stopped. I don't smoke or have any relevant history. Of course, it doesn't mean you will have any problems, but just wanted to share as a reminder to pay attention to any symptoms you may have (leg pain, especially in the calf; headache that doesn't go away for more than a few hours; etc.). 

 

Thanks for sharing! I do pay close attention to my body, but so far so good. I really don't get any side effects from Diane anymore, but I'll still be attentive!



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Posted 29 January 2014 - 03:37 PM

WOOHOO period week is over!!!

 

To summarise, I basically had a total of 3 spots throughout my entire period week, and they came at different times so I never had any more than 2 actives on my face! One is totally gone, one is practically healed but slightly raised and the last is midway through healing. I must say I'm so glad this week is over! Soo happy and relieved that I didn't breakout the way I did before with Diane. 

 

I'm really glad that I stuck it out with Diane. By month 5 I was so close to giving up on it and start a course of antibiotics - so many people were seeing results by month 4 and I was still getting breakouts at the same time every month. Just pushing through until the end of the year was the best decision I've ever made! I guess I'm pretty unlucky, it took so long for it to start working on my skin. But I've literally never been so happy with my skin before!

 

I've still got a lot of hyperpigmentation and to be honest I was getting a little bummed out, but I took a look at some old photos that I had of my skin last year and compared it and it just looked totally different! Sometimes I get so obsessed with how my skin looks NOW that I don't get the "big picture" and realise how much I've improved. I'm still using Dan's AHA which is literally a life-saver, and I'm thinking about looking into some DIY peels to help speed up the process. :)






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