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#41 JohnH

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Posted 22 June 2013 - 12:08 PM

Egg whites are the part that most people are allergic to.

You don't avoid all inflammatory foods, especially good foods like eggs. You just consume more anti inflammatory foods than inflammatory.

Also, it depends on the egg. Eggs from pastured hens or hens fed flax seed will be higher in anti inflammatory omega 3 EFAs than those from CAFO grain fed hens.

 

Eggs are one of the most nutrient-dense foods known to man. Unfortunately, they cause massive breakouts for me. I have tested this theory several times. All other things held constant, bringing eggs back into my diet for a few days caused immediate acne.

 

Acne is primarily caused by hormone imbalance, free radical formation, oxidative stress, and inflammation. Due to the types of saturated fats and cholesterol present in eggs, they are highly inflammatory. On NutritionData.com, 1 cup (220g) of scrambled eggs – about 3.5 large eggs) has an inflammation factor of -219. Eggs also contain high amounts of iodine, which is known to exacerbate acne. The situation is even worse with commercial eggs, which usually come from “factory farm” chickens that are fed and/or injected with antibiotics and hormones, which promotes hormone imbalance and kills some good necessary bacteria.

Furthermore, there are loads of anecdotal evidence of many people reporting on forums, surveys, and message boards that they strongly believe eggs contributed to or worsened their acne. So while there is no scientific evidence directly linking eggs to causing acne, there is evidence that they probably do not improve your acne and in fact can make it worse. Remember that different people react differently to different things, so eggs may cause breakouts for some and not for others. This is why many people report great benefits from using a raw egg mask while others claim it caused a massive breakout. If you are an acne sufferer currently eating eggs every day, consider cutting them from your diet for a few weeks and see what happens. If you can eat eggs and not get breakouts, that's great, and I'm jealous! If you really want to get specific, you could try only eating the egg white and discarding the yolk, since most of the inflammatory fats are in the yolk. Like I said in a post above, powdered egg whites are actually anti-inflammatory, as are liquid pasteurized egg substitutes (usually called liquid egg whites). But it is also important to note that you can get everything eggs offer from other food sources.

 

Regarding flax, yes it extremely high in beneficial omega-3's, but most are actually ALA, which recent studies have linked to prostate cancer for males. Also, flax contains a high concentration of phytoestrogens, which again is bad for males, because it can get your hormones out of balance. About 6 months ago, I was consuming extremely large amounts of flax daily - whole flax seeds, ground flax seeds in shakes and on yogurt, flax milk for drinking and in cereal, and flax oil. I was mildly obsessed with flax. But I noticed I was unusually emotional and sensitive all the time. After some research I found out the flax was the culprit. Sadly, I have since cut flax completely from my diet. Sure, in moderation, it's probably fine. And in women, it probably won't do any harm in large amounts. But as a male, I now steer clear of flax.

 

The above is based on my own personal experience, and may or may not be the same for others.


Edited by JohnH, 24 June 2013 - 03:50 PM.


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Posted 22 June 2013 - 12:39 PM

i wish people stop saying keeping themselves in mind.

my friend TREATACNE here is allergic to nightshade members but night shade members have loads of good properties too.

tomato and capsicum are good in general.

same goes for eggs.

and its not a race about which is most nutritious and which isnt.

actually u cant classify anything as 'most' anyway.

 

egg is one very healthy food to eat.its a very commonly known fact.

but if one is intolerant or allergic then its a seperate story.

 

peanuts are good stuff(not the salted ones) but i have mild intolerance to it.

so should i claim that peanuts are bad?



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Posted 23 June 2013 - 04:24 PM

ive been working out for over 2 years now and I would recommend for you to never go near weight gainers. If you want to gain weight, do it gradually over a period of time. you dont want your body to take soo much calories at one time, yes thats right weight gainers are made to dump a load of calories at once. just eat normally, consume brown rice, sweet potatoes, etc to gain weight. 

 

I took weigth gainer a few ago and went from 182 to 195 in lets say 2-4 weeks, and my stomach went from 6 pack to a one pack 



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Posted 23 June 2013 - 08:26 PM

ive been working out for over 2 years now and I would recommend for you to never go near weight gainers. If you want to gain weight, do it gradually over a period of time. you dont want your body to take soo much calories at one time, yes thats right weight gainers are made to dump a load of calories at once. just eat normally, consume brown rice, sweet potatoes, etc to gain weight. 

 

I took weigth gainer a few ago and went from 182 to 195 in lets say 2-4 weeks, and my stomach went from 6 pack to a one pack 

LOL the weight gainer did it's job buddy. It does not add muscle, it just provides calories with which it is up to you to utilize properly. It just sounds like you are taking in more calories than you are burning, this can be done with weight gainers OR real food. Your experience is user error my friend, weight gainers do a great job of conviently providing calories and you either took too much or didn't work out hard enough. Weight gainers are not a perfect product, but still not as bad as people credit them.



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Posted 23 June 2013 - 09:53 PM

Egg whites are the part that most people are allergic to.

You don't avoid all inflammatory foods, especially good foods like eggs. You just consume more anti inflammatory foods than inflammatory.

Also, it depends on the egg. Eggs from pastured hens or hens fed flax seed will be higher in anti inflammatory omega 3 EFAs than those from CAFO grain fed hens.

 

Eggs are one of the most nutrient-dense foods known to man. Unfortunately for me, they cause massive breakouts. I have tested this theory several times. All other things held constant, bringing eggs back into my diet for a few days caused immediate acne.

 

Acne is primarily caused by hormone imbalance, free radical formation, oxidative stress, and inflammation. Due to the types of saturated fats and cholesterol present in eggs, they are highly inflammatory. On NutritionData.com, 1 cup (220g) of scrambled eggs – about 3.5 large eggs) has an inflammation factor of -219. Eggs also contain high amounts of iodine, which is known to exacerbate acne. The situation is even worse with commercial eggs, which usually come from “factory farm” chickens that are fed and/or injected with antibiotics and hormones, which promotes hormone imbalance and kills some good necessary bacteria.

Furthermore, there are loads of anecdotal evidence of many people reporting on forums, surveys, and message boards that they strongly believe eggs contributed to or worsened their acne. So while there is no scientific evidence directly linking eggs to causing acne, there is evidence that they probably do not improve your acne and in fact can make it worse. Remember that different people react differently to different things, so eggs may cause breakouts for some and not for others. This is why many people report great benefits from using a raw egg mask while others claim it caused a massive breakout. If you are an acne sufferer currently eating eggs every day, consider cutting them from your diet for a few weeks and see what happens. If you can eat eggs and not get breakouts, that's great, and I'm jealous! If you really want to get specific, you could try only eating the egg white and discarding the yolk, since most of the inflammatory fats are in the yolk. Like I said in a post above, powdered egg whites are actually anti-inflammatory, as are liquid pasteurized egg substitutes (usually called liquid egg whites). But it is also important to note that you can get everything eggs offer from other food sources.

 

Regarding flax, yes it extremely high in beneficial omega-3's, but most are actually ALA, which recent studies have linked to prostate cancer for males. Also, flax contains a high concentration of phytoestrogens, which again is bad for males, because it can get your hormones out of balance. About 6 months ago, I was consuming extremely large amounts of flax daily - whole flax seeds, ground flax seeds in shakes and on yogurt, flax milk for drinking and in cereal, and flax oil. I was mildly obsessed with flax. But I noticed I was unusually emotional and sensitive all the time. After some research I found out the flax was the culprit. Sadly, I have since cut flax completely from my diet. Sure, in moderation, it's probably fine. And in women, it probably won't do any harm in large amounts. But as a male, I now steer clear of flax.

How much flaxseed were you consuming on a daily basis? 

 

Pasture raised eggs are one of nature's extremely nutritious foods. Too bad it gives me break outs as well...



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Posted 24 June 2013 - 11:45 AM

Egg whites are the part that most people are allergic to.

You don't avoid all inflammatory foods, especially good foods like eggs. You just consume more anti inflammatory foods than inflammatory.

Also, it depends on the egg. Eggs from pastured hens or hens fed flax seed will be higher in anti inflammatory omega 3 EFAs than those from CAFO grain fed hens.

 

Eggs are one of the most nutrient-dense foods known to man. Unfortunately for me, they cause massive breakouts. I have tested this theory several times. All other things held constant, bringing eggs back into my diet for a few days caused immediate acne. 

 

Well, I test it several times per week.  Eggs do not break me out.  And the board is also filled with people that don't break out from eggs. 

 

That is an individual issue and you likely have an intolerance.  If you are intolerant to something, it will be more inflammatory for you.  And it might also directly form a pimple to form as part of the allergic response.

 

It is fairly common to be allergic to eggs. They are included in the list of the top 8 problematic foods. And it is the egg white that people are usually allergic to.  And eggs from hens that eat their natural diet will be less problematic and possibly no problem at all.  The majority of the top 8 problematic foods are foods high in lectins. The foods highest in lectins are seeds, especially grains, and products from grain fed animals. Nutritiondata doesn't have any data on eggs from pastured hens.

 

And I repeat.  You don't avoid all inflammatory foods, especially good foods like eggs. You just consume more anti inflammatory foods than inflammatory.  You do of course, avoid anything to which you have an intolerance.

 

Also. I was not suggesting you eat flax seed. I was suggesting the hens eat flax seed, or better yet insects, and worms and greens. The things they are supposed to eat.

 

Acne btw, is caused by a genetic tendency to impaired skin function regarding cell proliferation and desquamation and the epidermal barrier and lipid profile in your sebum.   


Edited by alternativista, 24 June 2013 - 11:51 AM.


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Posted 24 June 2013 - 03:56 PM

Well, I test it several times per week.  Eggs do not break me out.  And the board is also filled with people that don't break out from eggs. 

 

That is an individual issue and you likely have an intolerance. 

 

Which is why I said "for me" and "my diet." I was not making a generalization. Like I also said above, I am jealous of people who can eat eggs and not break out. They are very nutritious and I love eating them, so that's great that they do not break you out. I have bolded parts of my post above to make it clear that it is my own personal experience.



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Posted 25 June 2013 - 08:49 AM


Well, I test it several times per week.  Eggs do not break me out.  And the board is also filled with people that don't break out from eggs. 
 
That is an individual issue and you likely have an intolerance. 

 
Which is why I said "for me" and "my diet." I was not making a generalization. Like I also said above, I am jealous of people who can eat eggs and not break out. They are very nutritious and I love eating them, so that's great that they do not break you out. I have bolded parts of my post above to make it clear that it is my own personal experience.
 
Opps. My bad.  I missed the 'for me.'  And didn't really read the rest of the essay.  I dont know why you wrote all that in response to my clarifications on anti-inflammatory diets and the factors that affect how inflammatory an egg and how nutritiondata doesn't have information on good eggs from properly fed hens.  
 
And since you are intolerant to eggs, it's puzzling that you keep telling people to eat the only the part of the egg that contains the substances people are intolerant to.

Edited by alternativista, 25 June 2013 - 02:06 PM.


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Posted 12 August 2013 - 12:08 PM

Just wanted to let yall know that at the end i did not try the weight gainer.

I just made my own homemade weight gainer, no acne breakouts, and it helped me to put on a lil bit of weight, but im starting to give up on my mission.

Not lack of will, i just like being skinny fit, and while it may be a problem when playing basketball at my level, it has a lot of benefits, clothes fit me well and girls like skinny boys, so its all good. 

And while i may have trouble playing defense against bigger guards, im the shit on the offensive end of the court lol, so im starting to like the idea of coming off the bench as an offensive weapon, ill be a poor mans allen iverson. very poor haha



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Posted 13 August 2013 - 09:45 AM

Good day.

 

I'm 19, 6'1 and 155 pounds, and i'm trying to gain weight, would like to add 20 pounds during the summer.

 

After taking antibiotics i've been clear for 2 months, but i still eat an "anti-acne" diet, even though i've been eating more bread, more pasta etc. lately.

 

My concern is: do weight gainers make acne-prone people break out? I really need to put on weight, but i also dont want to have acne again after 2 months of being clear.

 

So if anyone has information about this topic, please tell me.

 

Thanks for reading this post.

 

Weight gainers are a load of crap in general.

 

Want to gain weight? Eat more calories from nutrient dense foods.






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