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#21 dejaclairevoyant

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 10:54 AM

After years of no grains, my system was more messed up than when I started. After about a year and a half I was tested and my cholesterol was rising fast... I then talked to my friend who is a registered dietician and she told me about a study on grain-free diets. Some of the people in the study were eating a balanced diet, others were eating grain free. They couldn't even complete the study because the people on the grain free diets had their cholesterol shoot up so fast that they considered it DANGEROUS to continue! Grains do something to balance our cholesterol and that's why they are important to include in our diets in moderation.

 

It's called fiber. Not really hard to get.

 

No. It's not just fiber. It's something specific about the grains. I was eating a very high fiber diet before when I was grain free. All I ate other than meat was high-fiber fruits and vegetables. Same with the study. At first when my friend was telling me about this, I thought that maybe they were just eating proteins or something. But no. Their diets were protein, fruits and vegetables, just like mine was, and their levels got so high that the people conducting the study felt it would be dangerous to continue.


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Posted 18 June 2013 - 03:38 PM

 

After years of no grains, my system was more messed up than when I started. After about a year and a half I was tested and my cholesterol was rising fast... I then talked to my friend who is a registered dietician and she told me about a study on grain-free diets. Some of the people in the study were eating a balanced diet, others were eating grain free. They couldn't even complete the study because the people on the grain free diets had their cholesterol shoot up so fast that they considered it DANGEROUS to continue! Grains do something to balance our cholesterol and that's why they are important to include in our diets in moderation.

 

It's called fiber. Not really hard to get.

 

No. It's not just fiber. It's something specific about the grains. I was eating a very high fiber diet before when I was grain free. All I ate other than meat was high-fiber fruits and vegetables. Same with the study. At first when my friend was telling me about this, I thought that maybe they were just eating proteins or something. But no. Their diets were protein, fruits and vegetables, just like mine was, and their levels got so high that the people conducting the study felt it would be dangerous to continue.

 

You've seen this study?  Can you find it?  Because I can't.  Your body makes cholesterol out of sugars. And grains are a major source.

 

What's been identified in grains that lowers cholesterol is in pretty much all other seeds. Soluble fiber, some B vitamins, and phyto sterols (which are also in high fat fruits and veggies like avocados.

 

There is a soluble fiber, beta-glucan, that's especially beneficial that is high in a couple of grains--oats and barley.  But also in mushrooms and yeast.


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#23 dejaclairevoyant

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 10:46 AM

I'll ask my friend about the study. Most of my information I get through her. She would have no reason to lie to me. She used to be very anti-grain but what she's seen in clinical studies changed her mind. I'm not very good at understanding all the clinical speak that's why I usually go through her.

 

edit-- Okay I talked to her. She's going to find it for me. Apparently the same study found that wheat is good for people who aren't sensitive too, so there goes all my theories. I've pretty much already accepted that I was wrong about everything anyway, lol.


Edited by dejaclairevoyant, 19 June 2013 - 08:40 PM.

Current Skin-Care Regimen (A work in progress):

 

Morning:

Gentle wash with DKR cleanser

Benzoyl Peroxide 2.5% (Following Dan's Regimen)

DKR Lotion + A squirt of Argan or Grapeseed oil (The  lotion alone wasn't hydrating enough)

Skin 79 Korean BB Cream (excellent stuff)

 

Evening:

Gentle Wash with DKR Cleanser

Benzoyl Peroxide 2.5% (Following Dan's Regimen)

DKR Lotion + A squirt of Argan or Grapeseed oil

 


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Posted 20 June 2013 - 03:21 AM

eagerly waiting!=)


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http://www.acne.org/...twith-pictures/
 
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http://www.acne.org/...food-allergies/
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Posted 05 July 2013 - 06:45 PM

You were right about probiotics! I took them for about a week and it made me breakout. Not badly.. but still noticeable.  Pores got bigger & more oily.  I stopped taking them and my skin is almost clear again.  O well.  At least I know it doesn't work for me.



#26 aanabill

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 12:43 PM

I'll ask my friend about the study. Most of my information I get through her. She would have no reason to lie to me. She used to be very anti-grain but what she's seen in clinical studies changed her mind. I'm not very good at understanding all the clinical speak that's why I usually go through her.

 

edit-- Okay I talked to her. She's going to find it for me. Apparently the same study found that wheat is good for people who aren't sensitive too, so there goes all my theories. I've pretty much already accepted that I was wrong about everything anyway, lol.

did u hear anything from ur friend on wheat and grains?


Itchy red raised skin - dermatitis??
http://www.acne.org/...-with-pictures/
 
huge pores
http://www.acne.org/...dwith-pictures/
 
indented scar
http://www.acne.org/...iswith-picture/
 
oils used for cooking
http://www.acne.org/...oilgood-or-bad/
 
inflamed whiteheads & clogged pores
http://www.acne.org/...twith-pictures/
 
my balanced diet chart and skincare routine(medications taken & products used now)
http://www.acne.org/...food-allergies/
http://www.acne.org/...incare-routine/
 

#27 dejaclairevoyant

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 09:45 PM

Still waiting. She got really sick recently so I don't wanna bug her about it. I'm annoyed though because I want to know more about it as well. Maybe I'll do some research when I have the time. (which is never pretty much now that I'm self employed lol)


Current Skin-Care Regimen (A work in progress):

 

Morning:

Gentle wash with DKR cleanser

Benzoyl Peroxide 2.5% (Following Dan's Regimen)

DKR Lotion + A squirt of Argan or Grapeseed oil (The  lotion alone wasn't hydrating enough)

Skin 79 Korean BB Cream (excellent stuff)

 

Evening:

Gentle Wash with DKR Cleanser

Benzoyl Peroxide 2.5% (Following Dan's Regimen)

DKR Lotion + A squirt of Argan or Grapeseed oil

 


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Posted 07 July 2013 - 08:16 AM

You might consider looking into testing your reaction some of these other tested histamine rich foods: alcohol and long-ripened or fermented (and therefore histamine-rich) food, such as aged cheese, cured meat, and yeast products; histamine-rich food, such as bananas, spinach or tomatoes; or histamine liberators, such as citrus fruit, should be avoided.

I know several of those are a no brainer, but a few (spinach, tomatoes) were a surprise to me. I've been researching foods that cause histamine reactions to limit the enormous restrictions I had recently set on my diet. Like you, I'm trying to open my diet as not to trigger past disordered eating behaviors. I would prefer to know the exact foods that cause negative physical responses, as opposed to cutting entire food groups out of my diet. Hell, I have gone weeks where I ate only apples and almonds out of fear that I would breakout. I can't afford to slip down that slippery disordered eating slope anymore. Being aware of the exact foods that are the problem has freed up my dietary allowances, and my mind!

Thank you for being open about the issue of your eating disorder. It opens this topic up to show there needs to be a boundary on the lengths we will go to clear our skin. No one should needlessly go down the path of disordered eating as the means to end the problem of acne; having suffered through both, we know the path of an eating disorder creates far more anguish and destruction. It is a delicate balance.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:03 PM

You might consider looking into testing your reaction some of these other tested histamine rich foods: alcohol and long-ripened or fermented (and therefore histamine-rich) food, such as aged cheese, cured meat, and yeast products; histamine-rich food, such as bananas, spinach or tomatoes; or histamine liberators, such as citrus fruit, should be avoided.

I know several of those are a no brainer, but a few (spinach, tomatoes) were a surprise to me. I've been researching foods that cause histamine reactions to limit the enormous restrictions I had recently set on my diet. Like you, I'm trying to open my diet as not to trigger past disordered eating behaviors. I would prefer to know the exact foods that cause negative physical responses, as opposed to cutting entire food groups out of my diet. Hell, I have gone weeks where I ate only apples and almonds out of fear that I would breakout. I can't afford to slip down that slippery disordered eating slope anymore. Being aware of the exact foods that are the problem has freed up my dietary allowances, and my mind!

Thank you for being open about the issue of your eating disorder. It opens this topic up to show there needs to be a boundary on the lengths we will go to clear our skin. No one should needlessly go down the path of disordered eating as the means to end the problem of acne; having suffered through both, we know the path of an eating disorder creates far more anguish and destruction. It is a delicate balance.

could u add links to the studies on histamine rich foods?

 

how exactly is citrus effecting?


Itchy red raised skin - dermatitis??
http://www.acne.org/...-with-pictures/
 
huge pores
http://www.acne.org/...dwith-pictures/
 
indented scar
http://www.acne.org/...iswith-picture/
 
oils used for cooking
http://www.acne.org/...oilgood-or-bad/
 
inflamed whiteheads & clogged pores
http://www.acne.org/...twith-pictures/
 
my balanced diet chart and skincare routine(medications taken & products used now)
http://www.acne.org/...food-allergies/
http://www.acne.org/...incare-routine/
 

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:57 PM

Link to one study on histamine rich foods:
http://www.michigana...histamine.shtml

Google: 'foods that cause histamine reaction', the studies and information are endless. The link I posted above is one of many.

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 04:53 PM

Hi Claire! Glad to hear you're clear and happy. It's always nice finding something that works for you. :)


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Posted 30 May 2014 - 12:56 PM

everything affects everyone differently. Probiotics can actually help the body and the gut, as well as skin too. 




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