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#1 Babser

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 07:13 AM

Hello!

 

According to acne.about.com i suffer from a condition called retention hyperkeratosis which apparently is quite common for acne prone skin. For those of you that don't know what it is it's basicly overproduction of dead skin cells and my skin not being able to shed them off properly. (read more here http://acne.about.co...exfolbasics.htm)

 

I believe a lot of my acne appears from this condition. After i shower i can see dozens of skin cells just laying on top everywhere i have acne.

 

I've previously tried to manually exfoliate them which made my skin terribly irritated. Lately I've been using Acne.org AHA+ about 3 times a week and it seems to be doing some help. However, it doesn't finish the whole job. It is still some dead skin cells left there after I shower. Another weird thing about this cream is that when I wash my face the day after some of the cream comes out of my skin again (which is guess clogges them?)

 

So my final question is if anyone would recommend me any products to get red of these dead skin cells? Greatly appericiated :)

 

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 11:10 AM

i would suggest a bha wash(mild concentration as per sensitivity of ur skin and balanced pH) to be used twice a day everyday(instead of a regular wash).


Itchy red raised skin - dermatitis??
http://www.acne.org/...-with-pictures/
 
huge pores
http://www.acne.org/...dwith-pictures/
 
indented scar
http://www.acne.org/...iswith-picture/
 
oils used for cooking
http://www.acne.org/...oilgood-or-bad/
 
inflamed whiteheads & clogged pores
http://www.acne.org/...twith-pictures/
 
my balanced diet chart and skincare routine(medications taken & products used now)
http://www.acne.org/...food-allergies/
http://www.acne.org/...incare-routine/
 

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 07:31 AM

Thank you for answering :) Would this be fine? http://www.acne.org/.../886/page1.html

There is so little reviews on the products so i don't really know...

 

Any other suggestions out there too?



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Posted 10 June 2013 - 09:49 AM

reviews should be considered after u've figured out a product that fulfills all ur criteria.

they should be -

  • a mild bha(salicylic acid 1% or less to start with - since u dnt have severe flaky skin problems u'll nt need high concentration ones but increasing the strength as u get used to the ingredients is still an option),
  • paraben free,
  • no oil(if its a cream cleanser),
  • no comedogenic ingredients,
  • no SLS,
  • less/no fragnance,
  • depending on the texture of ur skin u can choose a cream bases or foaming cleanser,
  • pH balanced(around 5.5 or  lil' less - i don't prefer really low pH ones just like the high pH ones),
  • devoid of unnecessary harsh chemicals,  no physical scrubing particles(specially if skin is sensitive).

Itchy red raised skin - dermatitis??
http://www.acne.org/...-with-pictures/
 
huge pores
http://www.acne.org/...dwith-pictures/
 
indented scar
http://www.acne.org/...iswith-picture/
 
oils used for cooking
http://www.acne.org/...oilgood-or-bad/
 
inflamed whiteheads & clogged pores
http://www.acne.org/...twith-pictures/
 
my balanced diet chart and skincare routine(medications taken & products used now)
http://www.acne.org/...food-allergies/
http://www.acne.org/...incare-routine/
 

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 04:13 AM

I think i'll try this then... http://www.murad.com...iating-cleanser



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Posted 11 June 2013 - 05:28 AM

its got jojoba beads.so be careful about physical scrubing.it may or may not irritate ur skin.

it also has SLS( Sodium Laureth Sulfate) and paraben (Methylparaben, Propylparaben).[check the ingredients list].

 

plus,although am not sure - but if u have never used aha or bha before ,i;d say choose something that has maxm one or two acids in them.that would make it mild.

 

i cant guarantee,this is a good choice or bad choice.

 

i'm just bringing the cons before u.

u could still try and see for urself.


Itchy red raised skin - dermatitis??
http://www.acne.org/...-with-pictures/
 
huge pores
http://www.acne.org/...dwith-pictures/
 
indented scar
http://www.acne.org/...iswith-picture/
 
oils used for cooking
http://www.acne.org/...oilgood-or-bad/
 
inflamed whiteheads & clogged pores
http://www.acne.org/...twith-pictures/
 
my balanced diet chart and skincare routine(medications taken & products used now)
http://www.acne.org/...food-allergies/
http://www.acne.org/...incare-routine/
 

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 07:58 AM

oh, okay. well, its kind of hard to find any bha cleansers out there. I found one from Paula's Choice, but it's so expensive to ship all the way down to norway.. I guess i'll look some more



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Posted 11 June 2013 - 09:27 AM

paula's one good.so i've heard.i've never used it myself.

i use a bha wash named "saslic".its got 1% SA and pH of 5.5

 

one complaint many have is : after one stops using it,acne is likely to come back.

but well!

i can only infer that since the exfoliation stops,the acne resurface.


Itchy red raised skin - dermatitis??
http://www.acne.org/...-with-pictures/
 
huge pores
http://www.acne.org/...dwith-pictures/
 
indented scar
http://www.acne.org/...iswith-picture/
 
oils used for cooking
http://www.acne.org/...oilgood-or-bad/
 
inflamed whiteheads & clogged pores
http://www.acne.org/...twith-pictures/
 
my balanced diet chart and skincare routine(medications taken & products used now)
http://www.acne.org/...food-allergies/
http://www.acne.org/...incare-routine/
 

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 03:27 PM

After i take a hot bath at about 40-42 degrees celcius i get like all my dead skin turning into a paste like mixture on my forehead do you get this too? 


Edited by Fischer1, 12 June 2013 - 03:28 PM.


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Posted 12 June 2013 - 03:37 PM

After i take a hot bath at about 40-42 degrees celcius i get like all my dead skin turning into a paste like mixture on my forehead do you get this too? 

I can relate mate.I have been having this same problem since i started the caveman regimen.I have even put up a post regarding this problem.When i sweat profusely my cheeks become white with a thick dead skin paste.And once i tried exfoliating with honey and oats and it all went horribly bad.I'm completely at sea. Just don't know how to exfoliate.And not exfoliating has it's own issues besides the aesthetic ones.A lot of  dead skin on your face makes your face prone to white heads.Not to forget the dull complexion which it gives you.

 

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Edited by Perseverance92, 12 June 2013 - 03:38 PM.


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Posted 13 June 2013 - 12:40 AM

After i take a hot bath at about 40-42 degrees celcius i get like all my dead skin turning into a paste like mixture on my forehead do you get this too? 

u rip ur mositure layer of ur face with that hot water.


Itchy red raised skin - dermatitis??
http://www.acne.org/...-with-pictures/
 
huge pores
http://www.acne.org/...dwith-pictures/
 
indented scar
http://www.acne.org/...iswith-picture/
 
oils used for cooking
http://www.acne.org/...oilgood-or-bad/
 
inflamed whiteheads & clogged pores
http://www.acne.org/...twith-pictures/
 
my balanced diet chart and skincare routine(medications taken & products used now)
http://www.acne.org/...food-allergies/
http://www.acne.org/...incare-routine/
 

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 06:38 AM

i think i found out what my problem was...and i feel kind of stupid.

 

after almost 1 year of using acne.orgs mouisturizer i tried to stop using it for a few days, and now my face is getting much better. my dead skin cells stopped laying on top of the skin after i shower! :) i think it might have been the jojoba oil that made the cells sticky and thereby not shedding off.. this is just my theory though



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 02:04 PM

After i take a hot bath at about 40-42 degrees celcius i get like all my dead skin turning into a paste like mixture on my forehead do you get this too? 

u rip ur mositure layer of ur face with that hot water.

in the past, before i used acne.org regiment for 3 months.. it was'nt a problem for me, but now it if for some odd reason... imma try not to use hot water anymore.. to see if that helps :-)



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 03:34 PM



After i take a hot bath at about 40-42 degrees celcius i get like all my dead skin turning into a paste like mixture on my forehead do you get this too? 

u rip ur mositure layer of ur face with that hot water.
Aanabill how can you tell if its the mositure layer or just dead skin.Because I get the same thing,I get that dead skin turning into a paste like mixture all over my face, and it's not flaking it's just sticky.And my face is also very dehydrated looking. Should I remove that paste layer off my face or leave it alone?    thanks

I use to have very very oily skin and use so many acne products, I get the flaky dead skin peeling around my mouth and cheeks,but my face look normal.

Now couple years later I get this white sticky paste all over my face.and that is when my face turn really dehydrated looking.you can't see the white sticky paste but when it get wet it turn white and disappear in 3 mins. And my skin don't look healthy anymore ,it's very dehydrated

Edited by rarejr, 14 June 2013 - 05:39 PM.


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Posted 15 June 2013 - 12:34 AM

dead skin cannot be removed just by washing with water.

that is if the rate at which upper layer should get removed is normal for u, it is okay.

but if u need exfoliation,just water wont give u that.

(dnt forget pH of water is 7 in general)

 

but moisture of ur skin is taken away(i am talking abt the external lipid layer) by pH imbalance and also warm water,harsh chemicals etc.

hot water(and that hot is) worse actually.

if u normally wash ur face with water(u know just splash water) the pH comes back to normal after a while(resilient action of ur skin) and also the healthy oily layer is brought back(if u r healthy,eat well and lead a good lifestyle - this is a trait u will have easily.its sign of healthy skin and body) but constant use of warm /hot water will rip the layer off and gradually ur skin may/may not lose the power to bounce back.

this ripped skin(within any protective layer of oil) is unhealthy and prone to problems.

there are posts on what the effects are,i'd suggest u go through those.

 

maintaining the basic pH OF SKIN which ranges from 4-6(average being 5.5) is best.

although they say exfoliators should have low pH but i feel even extremely low ones aint ideal.

i stick to a balanced pH wash and let my skin deal with the pH of water by itself.

 

white sticky paste?

i know u guys keep saying but i am not getting it.

whoever gets it please click a pic nect time.

i can guess its dead skin all messed up with sweat  and sebum!

 

do u follow caveman regimen?or anything similar?


Itchy red raised skin - dermatitis??
http://www.acne.org/...-with-pictures/
 
huge pores
http://www.acne.org/...dwith-pictures/
 
indented scar
http://www.acne.org/...iswith-picture/
 
oils used for cooking
http://www.acne.org/...oilgood-or-bad/
 
inflamed whiteheads & clogged pores
http://www.acne.org/...twith-pictures/
 
my balanced diet chart and skincare routine(medications taken & products used now)
http://www.acne.org/...food-allergies/
http://www.acne.org/...incare-routine/
 

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 11:36 AM

After the use of the regiment, i now sit here 4-5 months later... the paste is like the dead skin building up over a week or two... when you then take a steamy shower or enter a saunce or w/e hot kind of water.. this skin turns into a paste (because of the hotness of the water) almost like its melting into a light wax, if you let this wax dry it turns into skin again. I'll see if i can get a photo next time i take a steamy shower for you, but this is my best description. 



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Posted 16 June 2013 - 12:11 PM

After the use of the regiment, i now sit here 4-5 months later... the paste is like the dead skin building up over a week or two... when you then take a steamy shower or enter a saunce or w/e hot kind of water.. this skin turns into a paste (because of the hotness of the water) almost like its melting into a light wax, if you let this wax dry it turns into skin again. I'll see if i can get a photo next time i take a steamy shower for you, but this is my best description. 

Bingo man! i experience the same thing everyday! 



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Posted 16 June 2013 - 03:07 PM

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These are from today... its not a hot shower but still warm, and this is my result.. i exfoliate once a week and this is the result every time... jesus have that regiment messed up my face sad.png ( i quit the regiment 5 months ago, and my face is still going haywire..)


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Posted 17 June 2013 - 12:12 AM

Fischer1 - did you follow the regimen step by step? (barely touching your face and not rubbing it?)

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 12:24 AM

regiment?

do u mean the cavemen or modified caveman regimen?

 

what cleanser do u use everyday?

exfoliation in what way?physical or chemical?


Itchy red raised skin - dermatitis??
http://www.acne.org/...-with-pictures/
 
huge pores
http://www.acne.org/...dwith-pictures/
 
indented scar
http://www.acne.org/...iswith-picture/
 
oils used for cooking
http://www.acne.org/...oilgood-or-bad/
 
inflamed whiteheads & clogged pores
http://www.acne.org/...twith-pictures/
 
my balanced diet chart and skincare routine(medications taken & products used now)
http://www.acne.org/...food-allergies/
http://www.acne.org/...incare-routine/