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Posted 03 June 2013 - 11:37 AM

The antihistamine threads on here haven't been updated in years, so I was hoping someone could give me advice on what to take for environmental allergies. I used to take a sodium chloride solution prepared by a naturopath, but I must have become immune to it because my allergy symptoms are back. I tried over the counter antihistamines and they were too strong.

I read that stinging nettle and quercetin could help, and so could butterbur but there are some health concerns about butterbur so I didn't want to risk it. Right now I'm leaning towards quercetin and Allerase - anyone had success with these?

Has anyone had success with a natural remedy? I heard of saline solution nasal sprays - are those effective? The allergist I saw believes that my acne is worsened by histamines because I live in a highly allergenic environment.


Edited by WishClean, 03 June 2013 - 11:45 AM.

Supplements: inositol, DIM, digestive enzymes [don't need them every day anymore, only on cheat days], herpanacine & vitamin C with rose hips [not every day], regular sun exposure for vitamin D3.

Lifestyle & Skin Care: Low histamine diet, avoiding unnecessary stress, balancing skin's PH (using Image Ormedics), using distilled/ filtered water to wash face, occasional high frequency facials... (although I have been slacking lately)

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 12:05 PM

Did you check this list?

 

http://www.acne.org/...acne/?p=2574130

 

I just started nettle tea.  And I'm still working on the bottle of Black raspberry which is supposed to be by far the biggest source of pro-anthocyanins, probably not spelled correctly.  I haven't noticed any reduction in my constantly congested nose. I suspect my cats are the culprit.  Although, rhinitus is a symptom of hyperkeratinization, just like acne.


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 04:45 PM

Did you check this list?

 

http://www.acne.org/...acne/?p=2574130

 

I just started nettle tea.  And I'm still working on the bottle of Black raspberry which is supposed to be by far the biggest source of pro-anthocyanins, probably not spelled correctly.  I haven't noticed any reduction in my constantly congested nose. I suspect my cats are the culprit.  Although, rhinitus is a symptom of hyperkeratinization, just like acne.

Yes, I checked the list and it was helpful. I was trying to see if any users used any of the items on the list for histamine reactions specifically. Nettle tea seems like a good option, and I will look into black raspberry. I went to the health food store and was going to get quercetrin supplements, but they were all mixed with other ingredients like citrus and bromelain....has anyone had results with quercetrin? For now, I just went with Enzymedica Allerase and will try to find a good quercetrin supplement if this doesn't work out.

Allerase has amylase and other enzymes that are supposed to boost the immune system against allergies and also help with digestion and the breakdown of sugar. Do you know if these enzymes will work well as anti-histamines? 

I also added cherries to my diet recently, and that seems to be helping with inflammation.


Supplements: inositol, DIM, digestive enzymes [don't need them every day anymore, only on cheat days], herpanacine & vitamin C with rose hips [not every day], regular sun exposure for vitamin D3.

Lifestyle & Skin Care: Low histamine diet, avoiding unnecessary stress, balancing skin's PH (using Image Ormedics), using distilled/ filtered water to wash face, occasional high frequency facials... (although I have been slacking lately)

** Find the cause, find the cure **

 


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Posted 03 June 2013 - 04:53 PM

Did you check this list?

 

http://www.acne.org/...acne/?p=2574130

 

I just started nettle tea.  And I'm still working on the bottle of Black raspberry which is supposed to be by far the biggest source of pro-anthocyanins, probably not spelled correctly.  I haven't noticed any reduction in my constantly congested nose. I suspect my cats are the culprit.  Although, rhinitus is a symptom of hyperkeratinization, just like acne.

Yes, I checked the list and it was helpful. I was trying to see if any users used any of the items on the list for histamine reactions specifically. Nettle tea seems like a good option, and I will look into black raspberry. I went to the health food store and was going to get quercetrin supplements, but they were all mixed with other ingredients like citrus and bromelain....has anyone had results with quercetrin? For now, I just went with Enzymedica Allerase and will try to find a good quercetrin supplement if this doesn't work out.

Allerase has amylase and other enzymes that are supposed to boost the immune system against allergies and also help with digestion and the breakdown of sugar. Do you know if these enzymes will work well as anti-histamines? 

I also added cherries to my diet recently, and that seems to be helping with inflammation.

 

Sorry, the only things I can very clearly without a doubt say have worked for me are 1) avoiding the food that cause me to break out in cysts 2) changing my diet to be more nutrient dense and have a lower glycemic impact. 3) topical linoleic acid oils clear up keratosis pilaris.

 

And I'm pretty darn sure that topical linoleic acid oils like safflower have definately made all the androgenic hairs on my body way less course, almost to the point where they aren't an issue anymore.  Although I thought pepermint tea made a big improvement and I still drink that.

 

And about the enzymes, yeah, I was looking into a supplement for my dog and came accross this blend of enzymes and a specific 'super' probiotic, one review described her dog's issues that sound exactly like mine and that it worked wonders. Issues include allergies/sensitivities such as to fleas. And I recently began to suspect he's allergic to pollen. He lays down and chews his feet obsessively when we return from a walk. And he's less obsessive if I wipe them off with a damp cloth.  And I think the dog has a systemic yeast infection which is at the root of his allergies.  And so, I began to think, maybe I should take this yeast thing more seriously for me too.  Nettle tea helps with that. And coconut oil.


Edited by alternativista, 03 June 2013 - 05:02 PM.

Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 06:08 PM

 

Did you check this list?

 

http://www.acne.org/...acne/?p=2574130

 

I just started nettle tea.  And I'm still working on the bottle of Black raspberry which is supposed to be by far the biggest source of pro-anthocyanins, probably not spelled correctly.  I haven't noticed any reduction in my constantly congested nose. I suspect my cats are the culprit.  Although, rhinitus is a symptom of hyperkeratinization, just like acne.

Yes, I checked the list and it was helpful. I was trying to see if any users used any of the items on the list for histamine reactions specifically. Nettle tea seems like a good option, and I will look into black raspberry. I went to the health food store and was going to get quercetrin supplements, but they were all mixed with other ingredients like citrus and bromelain....has anyone had results with quercetrin? For now, I just went with Enzymedica Allerase and will try to find a good quercetrin supplement if this doesn't work out.

Allerase has amylase and other enzymes that are supposed to boost the immune system against allergies and also help with digestion and the breakdown of sugar. Do you know if these enzymes will work well as anti-histamines? 

I also added cherries to my diet recently, and that seems to be helping with inflammation.

 

Sorry, the only things I can very clearly without a doubt say have worked for me are 1) avoiding the food that cause me to break out in cysts 2) changing my diet to be more nutrient dense and have a lower glycemic impact. 3) topical linoleic acid oils clear up keratosis pilaris.

 

And I'm pretty darn sure that topical linoleic acid oils like safflower have definately made all the androgenic hairs on my body way less course, almost to the point where they aren't an issue anymore.  Although I thought pepermint tea made a big improvement and I still drink that.

 

And about the enzymes, yeah, I was looking into a supplement for my dog and came accross this blend of enzymes and a specific 'super' probiotic, one review described her dog's issues that sound exactly like mine and that it worked wonders. Issues include allergies/sensitivities such as to fleas. And I recently began to suspect he's allergic to pollen. He lays down and chews his feet obsessively when we return from a walk. And he's less obsessive if I wipe them off with a damp cloth.  And I think the dog has a systemic yeast infection which is at the root of his allergies.  And so, I began to think, maybe I should take this yeast thing more seriously for me too.  Nettle tea helps with that. And coconut oil.

 

The digestive enzymes sound promising....although the pills make me a bit dizzy when I take them because they are meant to be taken on an empty stomach. What other linoelic acids have you used, besides safflower oil? I tend to be sensitive to cooking oils like olive oil, sunflower, and coconut oil. The best one I can use so far has been grapeseed oil - would that work topically on the face?

 

Has your dog recently developed these allergies/ sensitivities, or did he always have them to an extent? If they are worsening maybe it's a sign of a weakened immune system. I developed more allergies and sensitivities because I live in an area with high pollen count and swamp-like temperatures, that's why I was looking into ways to strengthen my immune system and also lower histamines.

Another thing that might be unrelated to your dog's allergies but could help with his health in general would be to give him the kind of water you drink, instead of tap water. Not sure if you are already doing that or not, but if the tap water in your area is of bad quality then that might also be a factor.


Supplements: inositol, DIM, digestive enzymes [don't need them every day anymore, only on cheat days], herpanacine & vitamin C with rose hips [not every day], regular sun exposure for vitamin D3.

Lifestyle & Skin Care: Low histamine diet, avoiding unnecessary stress, balancing skin's PH (using Image Ormedics), using distilled/ filtered water to wash face, occasional high frequency facials... (although I have been slacking lately)

** Find the cause, find the cure **

 





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