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#161 onceupontime

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 09:28 PM

During using isotretinoin in ultra low dose, my skin was very clean and smooth , my friends were very amazing, they always asked me How I could do that. I can confidence in my skin in that time but after stop taking isotretinoin, it became worst. I guess I didn't use enoungh cumulative dose, which is about 120 mg/kg, and this cause the acne back. So this time I decide to use isotretinoin as long as possible, about 2 years in plan. Hope low dosing would minimize the side effects on my body. Oh, and I want to ask you a question: The ultra low dosing you using now is prescribed by your doctor or not? And did your doctor agree this?



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Posted 16 February 2014 - 04:58 PM

yup my blood work was fine last month and I send emails to my doc, keeping him updated. he knows about this thread ;P



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Posted 17 February 2014 - 01:58 AM

update:

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no more flakes, breakouts, dryness, and still no oiliness. I thought that the heavy cream that I just glob on my face at night would clog my pores...but it does not. i had to do it to get my it's moisture back. 

 

people who low dose like me should be very careful not to get flaky and dry, as this could irritate the skin and cause breakouts. it's about balance, even when u are fighting oily skin.



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Posted 17 February 2014 - 02:54 AM

Do you have any acne scar? And do you plan any scar treatment method? I have some acne scars and I plan to try the roller method but collagen in my skin was decreased due to isotretinoin. Do you have any experience about acne scar?



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Posted 18 February 2014 - 07:21 AM

no scars. I am lucky that my skin never got any acne scars or pits like I have seen others get. skin heals quickly (thank god).



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Posted 18 February 2014 - 10:58 PM

Lookin' good!

So interesting that dryness is just as bad as oiliness when it comes to acne. I think we could all learn a good lesson about being nicer to our skin from your experience.



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Posted 24 February 2014 - 08:32 PM

hey bro! been a long time since I last checked ur thread. Nice progress! I been taking acnotin 20mg daily for 4 months now, my last box of 20mg will be taken once weekly till I run out of it. So far so good :D



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 03:15 PM

hey yunchang :) i am korean too. and i have exactly the same skin type as you. 

are you planning to take isotretinoin forever ? i mean low dose 10mg/WEEK (1x capsule a week)?

i want to start a ultra low dose too, but i am afraid that i will mess up your body in the long run. Did your dermatologist say what the max. years you can take it until it becomes dangerous ?? 

thanks bro ;)



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Posted 17 March 2014 - 10:52 PM

hey guys,

 

thanks for posting on this blog, it is really helpful and I'm sure many will get much out of it.

 

I have been struggling with moderate acne on my face since 18. I am 34 now, so it is fucking 16 years! I have almost tried every thing. Although my acne has been of moderate type, but since two years ago when I get too much stress, my back starts developing very sever acne. I was offered to take accutane when I was 20 by a dermo, but due its side effects I refused to to that and I wish I had done, because I am left now with so many scars on my face. I have very oily skin and have to wash my face 3, 4 times a day to wipe out the oil. A while ago I finally decided to take accutane and get rid of acne. This time, I did not go to a dermo (i do not have an insurance covering specialist at present) and got a GP friend to  prescribe accutane for me. I will also take blood test each month to check my lipid and sugar. (what else should be checked?)

 

I would really appreciate I you can share your experience so as how long and how much I should take accutane? (I am 80 kg)

 

What is the regular cycle and dosage?

 

Does this sound like a good plan? 

 

1- 20mg/day for one month

2- 2x20mg/day for one month

3- 2x40mg/day for two months

4- 2X20mg/day for one month

5- 20mg/day for one month

 

 

 

 

Thanks

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Edited by raka, 18 March 2014 - 06:10 AM.


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Posted 21 March 2014 - 01:07 PM

Sorry for being absent for so long! Life is busy!

 

 

hey bro! been a long time since I last checked ur thread. Nice progress! I been taking acnotin 20mg daily for 4 months now, my last box of 20mg will be taken once weekly till I run out of it. So far so good biggrin.png

 

Hey man! What is acnotin? is that like accutane? Hope u are well.

 

 

hey yunchang smile.png i am korean too. and i have exactly the same skin type as you. 

are you planning to take isotretinoin forever ? i mean low dose 10mg/WEEK (1x capsule a week)?

i want to start a ultra low dose too, but i am afraid that i will mess up your body in the long run. Did your dermatologist say what the max. years you can take it until it becomes dangerous ?? 

thanks bro wink.png

 

Yo bro! Yes, if I have to, I will take it forever. However, I have news to tell you guys.

 

 

hey guys,

 

thanks for posting on this blog, it is really helpful and I'm sure many will get much out of it.

 

I have been struggling with moderate acne on my face since 18. I am 34 now, so it is fucking 16 years! I have almost tried every thing. Although my acne has been of moderate type, but since two years ago when I get too much stress, my back starts developing very sever acne. I was offered to take accutane when I was 20 by a dermo, but due its side effects I refused to to that and I wish I had done, because I am left now with so many scars on my face. I have very oily skin and have to wash my face 3, 4 times a day to wipe out the oil. A while ago I finally decided to take accutane and get rid of acne. This time, I did not go to a dermo (i do not have an insurance covering specialist at present) and got a GP friend to  prescribe accutane for me. I will also take blood test each month to check my lipid and sugar. (what else should be checked?)

 

I would really appreciate I you can share your experience so as how long and how much I should take accutane? (I am 80 kg)

 

What is the regular cycle and dosage?

 

Does this sound like a good plan? 

 

1- 20mg/day for one month

2- 2x20mg/day for one month

3- 2x40mg/day for two months

4- 2X20mg/day for one month

5- 20mg/day for one month

 

 

 

 

Thanks

Raka

 

 

Hey Raka, I hope accutane works for you. This your first time on accutane right? If so, I cannot say that low dose is really for you. If I were you, I would suggest you take the full course as directed by your physician. I cannot really direct you because your situation is very different from me since I am a person who has taken accutane before. You have not, so your first course will be a lot higher in dosage. 

 

 

UPDATE:

Hey guys I have been controlling my accutane pretty well with the low dosage. It really helps keep the oil levels down and the side effects are minimal. But my doc and I have decided to change up this experiment. My doc says I am at the point where I do not need it anymore (maybe 1 every 2 weeks at most, so 10 mg every 14 days). That is only to keep the oil down. For anybreakouts he says that at this point I would be better using tretinoin cream for shedding my skin. This is because the accutane is great for keeping oil levels down, but at this low dosage it does not do much for bringing new skin to the top. So for now I will greatly ease off the accutane and start applying tretinoin. 

 

Hopefully, this works and I get even better skin. The low dosage had long periods of success, but I would still get clogged pores for some reason, even though my oil levels were low. I am hoping this tretinoin treatment will help with unclogging my skin. 

 

Tretinoin is kinda like the cream form of accutane. this is what patients usually use after their accutane course to maintain their skin. First time trying this...hope this works!



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Posted 22 March 2014 - 05:13 AM

Sorry for being absent for so long! Life is busy!
 
 

hey bro! been a long time since I last checked ur thread. Nice progress! I been taking acnotin 20mg daily for 4 months now, my last box of 20mg will be taken once weekly till I run out of it. So far so good biggrin.png

 
Hey man! What is acnotin? is that like accutane? Hope u are well.

Yeah its like accutane. I am using topical product to maintain it, sometimes there are minor breakout due to shavings.



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Posted 23 March 2014 - 09:57 PM

Hey Yunchang. So this low dose Accutane is commonplace in Korea? There are typically no adverse effects from the dose? Thanks for all you've shown. 



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Posted 26 March 2014 - 09:00 AM

I urge people to be careful with accutane.

 

I did a low dose course for 4/5 months - 60mgs a week.

 

It is now nearly 5 months after finishing the course I have joint pain all over my body. It doesnt matter what dose you use - it depends on how your body reacts to it - everyone is different - I was one of the unlucky ones.

 

Im not sure if Ill ever feel the same again as I did before using accutane - Im waiting on a rheumotologist appointment. 

 

Im not trying to rain on anyones parade here - accutane works, but use with caution and only if really necessary.

 

Try using Retin A instead. Regretting ever taking accutane now I can tell you.



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Posted 27 March 2014 - 01:53 PM

I urge people to be careful with accutane.

 

I did a low dose course for 4/5 months - 60mgs a week.

 

It is now nearly 5 months after finishing the course I have joint pain all over my body. It doesnt matter what dose you use - it depends on how your body reacts to it - everyone is different - I was one of the unlucky ones.

 

Im not sure if Ill ever feel the same again as I did before using accutane - Im waiting on a rheumotologist appointment. 

 

Im not trying to rain on anyones parade here - accutane works, but use with caution and only if really necessary.

 

Try using Retin A instead. Regretting ever taking accutane now I can tell you.

 

Yes, it is important to be careful and should be used under the supervision of a derm. 

 

Luckily, I do not have joint pain or other severe side effects from the Accutane. But I took a very very low dose to control my oil levels. 

 

Currently, I am applying Retin A once a day. I am hoping this will make my skin even clearer. I am going to wean myself off of accutane and see how my skin takes that. I am hoping the oil stays away. If it comes back, I will continue to take the low dose accutane to control my oil levels. 



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Posted 28 March 2014 - 01:39 PM

Hi.  I just thought I would help a bit, especially since there are few patients writing in about low dose regimens.  I have been on low dose (10mg 1-2X wk) for 3 years now, and it has changed my life.  I too suffered from itchy, chronically oily and acne laden skin for 25 years (I'm 43 now, and I'm a medical professional.)  I had tried two Accutane courses previously as well as all of the creams, pills, etc., but my acne and folliculitis always returned.  I have had almost no side effects other than my lips and eyes are occasionally dry, especially if I drink wine.  I do have some left hip pain, but I attribute it to having birthed 2 very large babies with a petite frame.  Frankly, I would tolerate my hip pain to continue to be acne and folliculitis free.  

 

I would not recommend this treatment for anyone still contemplating child birth at some point, but I was done and tired of the acne and cysts.  It has helped my self-esteem and comfort levels, and I will continue with this regimen until menopause.  Hope this helps!



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Posted 29 March 2014 - 02:54 PM

Hi.  I just thought I would help a bit, especially since there are few patients writing in about low dose regimens.  I have been on low dose (10mg 1-2X wk) for 3 years now, and it has changed my life.  I too suffered from itchy, chronically oily and acne laden skin for 25 years (I'm 43 now, and I'm a medical professional.)  I had tried two Accutane courses previously as well as all of the creams, pills, etc., but my acne and folliculitis always returned.  I have had almost no side effects other than my lips and eyes are occasionally dry, especially if I drink wine.  I do have some left hip pain, but I attribute it to having birthed 2 very large babies with a petite frame.  Frankly, I would tolerate my hip pain to continue to be acne and folliculitis free.  

 

I would not recommend this treatment for anyone still contemplating child birth at some point, but I was done and tired of the acne and cysts.  It has helped my self-esteem and comfort levels, and I will continue with this regimen until menopause.  Hope this helps!

 

hey, good to hear. i want to try it too, actually i started 2 weeks ago with my low dose. could you describe how your skin has been after 3 years. I mean is your skin "perfect" or do you still get clogged pores and oil? i am 23... and i already feel i missed part of my youth because of my skin. so depressed man.



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Posted 29 March 2014 - 04:47 PM

Hi Jon 132--  my skin is not perfect bc I wait until the smallest bump starts before I take the next pill, but I get compliments on my skin weekly.  I would not get clogged pores and oil if I took it 3 X wk.  It is amazing to actually be dry!  I would do your research though.  This may be a bit premature, but I don't know if I would eventually father children on this dose.  I've written Plewig before and he actually answered.  He is the world renowned most knowledgable person on this subject.  I hope this helps.  



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Posted 30 March 2014 - 03:47 AM

Hi Jon 132--  my skin is not perfect bc I wait until the smallest bump starts before I take the next pill, but I get compliments on my skin weekly.  I would not get clogged pores and oil if I took it 3 X wk.  It is amazing to actually be dry!  I would do your research though.  This may be a bit premature, but I don't know if I would eventually father children on this dose.  I've written Plewig before and he actually answered.  He is the world renowned most knowledgable person on this subject.  I hope this helps.  

 

hi :) you mean that the low dose could affect your sperm in the long run and decrease my fertility ? Did Dr. Plewig told you that or what else did he say, so curious. Could you share what he told you ;) thanks



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Posted 30 March 2014 - 06:38 AM

Jon--after treating thousands of patients through the years, I have come to believe there is rarely a "miracle cure" without at least a mild compromise or cost from taking any chemical medication.  They have found accutane in sperm I believe, and I personally did not and would not try to have a baby for at least one year after taking any dose of accutane.  I have no medical basis for this other than my intuition and the knowledge that this medication has been directly linked to birth defects.  I enjoy being "bump free" and less itchy, but I wanted no chance of my cosmetic choices affecting another human.  Plewig and I did not discuss this as I had already had my children.  

 

I will tell you this too before I leave--look around you.  Most people that have acne are slim; obese people usually have nice skin.  I believe the sugars, additives, and preservatives in our food are poorly processed by all of us.  Trying to digest these toxins makes some of us heavy and some of us have skin problems (usually with GI issues if you are slim.)  The best way to handle all of this is to eat a vegan diet first before adding medication, but I was unable to commit to it with my busy life.  Any sugar at all seems to make me worse.

 

Good Luck with your choices!



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Posted 30 March 2014 - 07:15 AM

Jon--after treating thousands of patients through the years, I have come to believe there is rarely a "miracle cure" without at least a mild compromise or cost from taking any chemical medication.  They have found accutane in sperm I believe, and I personally did not and would not try to have a baby for at least one year after taking any dose of accutane.  I have no medical basis for this other than my intuition and the knowledge that this medication has been directly linked to birth defects.  I enjoy being "bump free" and less itchy, but I wanted no chance of my cosmetic choices affecting another human.  Plewig and I did not discuss this as I had already had my children.  

 

I will tell you this too before I leave--look around you.  Most people that have acne are slim; obese people usually have nice skin.  I believe the sugars, additives, and preservatives in our food are poorly processed by all of us.  Trying to digest these toxins makes some of us heavy and some of us have skin problems (usually with GI issues if you are slim.)  The best way to handle all of this is to eat a vegan diet first before adding medication, but I was unable to commit to it with my busy life.  Any sugar at all seems to make me worse.

 

Good Luck with your choices!

 

haha :) that's funny, you are right. i am slim and have a fast metabolism.

i thought about this issue couple of years ago, too. What i believed was that the meat we eat are actually pumped with so much growth hormons and other crap. And we all know that acne is primarily caused by hormons. 

Sugar seems to make my acne worse too. I am not sure if carbohydrates in general like bread, sugar, pasta are linked to acne? 

Couple of years ago i read a scientific paper about genetically modified food causing acne and i think they have some good points. Our bodies aren't used to the modified organisms they just don't know how to handle these foreign proteins and stuff. Our ancestors have eaten raw food for thousands of years and then within a couple of decades the food structure completely changed.

 

I would love to try a vegan organic diet. As a student my income and time is limited. Have you actually tried it (even just for a short time)? and did you see results? i assume you are slim too.






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