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Hi guys :)

I have awful indented acne scars all over my cheeks and chin as well as large pores and dark spots. The only decent part of my face is my forehead and it's getting really depressing.

I had spots as a teenager and had one ice pick scar but i could deal with that... then last year i started to get horrific cystic acne from the birth control i was using (nexplanon implant) and since they have heeled i have had lots of 'ice pick' scars.

(i rarely break out any more - but if i do it always leaves a mark)

I try to keep out of sunlight as i fear it will show up my indentations and put so much make up on daily even though sometimes it makes them stand out more.

I am going on holiday in two months and was wondering whether people thought i should use sunblock on my face or weather its best to let the sun rays get to my skin (still wearing a reasonable factor of course)

Also does anyone have any reviews/before and after pics of TCA peels? Also is dermabraision good for my type of scarring? I can't afford anything else.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

(I will try and post pics when i can connect my phone to my computer - at the moment there is a huge spider on the stairs blocking the way to my USB wire!)

Nairai x

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Sorry to hear you having such a hard time with scars, they really do suck. Any way, just make sure that you are completely clear before embarking on any new treatments, the last thing you want to do is backtrack on your success and irritate your skin. Have you looked into derma rolling?, you can buy the derma rollers on ebay, and they are comparitevely less expensive to other treatments. Have a look into it. Best of luck :)

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Sorry to hear you having such a hard time with scars, they really do suck. Any way, just make sure that you are completely clear before embarking on any new treatments, the last thing you want to do is backtrack on your success and irritate your skin. Have you looked into derma rolling?, you can buy the derma rollers on ebay, and they are comparitevely less expensive to other treatments. Have a look into it. Best of luck smile.png

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hey,

to be honest ur scarring doesnt look bad at all look like large pores. I have rolling scars.

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Hey you should try this stuff called skinagain photone. I just ordered mine and am waiting on it. I found on Trisha's YouTube where she talked about it helping her scar. This stuff can apparently help with scarring, cellulite and stretch marks. I will let you know how it works for me. If you order it on their site you can get 50% off with the code iPad or Trisha I think but it's back ordered so you can also order it off bt site for full price that's what I did. So yeah just a suggestion I have high hopes for it

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The sun is damaging to our skin! Whatever you do do not budge from the darkness of your house until you're wearing sunscreen. Even 5 minutes of direct sun exposure is enough to cause collagen breakdown thus leading to our scars looking much worse. Trust me on this!

Others have suggested at home skin needling. I would never attempt to do this myself but if you truly plan on it please don't just jump into it. I can give you information about professional Dermarolling treatments (as I have had 5 and absolutely love it) if you're interested in knowing more about how it works. Please consider leaving the actual treating of your scarring to professionals though.

xx


My Skin Care Regime


** Morning **

1. DermaQuest C3 Cleanser

2. DermaQuest Niacinamide B3 serum

3. DermaQuest C3 serum (Vitamin C)

4. DermaQuest Stem Cell 3D Daily Moisturiser (tinted) SPF 15 or

DermaQuest Daily Moisturising Lotion SPF 15 (on weekends)

** Makeup **

1. DermaQuest DermaPerfection Primer

2. Dermablend Smooth Indulgence Foundation SPF 15

3. Dermablend Setting Powder


** Night **

1. DermaQuest C3 Cleanser

2. DermaQuest Algae Facial Scrub (every second night)

3. DermaQuest Niacinamide B3 serum

4. DermaQuest Retexture serum (Vitamin A) (every second night)

5. DermaQuest Skin Rehydrating Serum (every other night)

6. DermaQuest Clarifying Pads (5% salicylic acid) (for my biggest acne prone areas)

7. DermaQuest DermaClear TX (for acne spots)

8. Swisse Ultiboost Hair Skin and Nails (vitamin supplement)


*** Current Treatment Plan ***

2010-2011: 5 x Fraxel Re:Store sessions - maybe 10-15% improvement.

2012-2013: 5 x Dermaroller sessions - at least 70% improvement!

2013: One eDermastamp treatment down, one more to go in Oct!


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Quirky Fox- Did you see much results with derma rolling at all?

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If your skin can handle it try a face brush. It will help your skin produce collagen which will soften the edges of indented scars. Just massage as gently as possible, even super soft toothbrushes made for babies works. Make sure your skin has a slippery layer of cleanser. oh and limit to only a few titimes a week. Lactic acid may fade the dark spots too, if you're not opposed to using it.

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If your scars are anywhere but the nose, they should respond well to needling. Not sure why one poster advised against home needling; educate yourself and at-home needling is precisely the same as clinic needling, there's very little skill to it in the actual application. I suggest you visit the owndoc forums and get advise from Sarah Vaughter, she is excellent, and although she's by no means the advocate of needling, I find her the most honest and she's not afraid to tell you when a product will not work even at expense to her own business interests.

I personally have bad acne scars but unfortunately they fall on my nose primarily, which is the worst and most difficult spot to treat scars on. Needling is patchy here, and few experts or business people alike, Sarah Vaughter included, advise needling or aggressive treatment on the nose.

I have tried at home needling on my nose, to little progress, but equally, have tried it on scars on other parts of my body, and found it incredibly effective.

As an afterthough, I have viewed your gallery pictures, and to me as a normal individual, whilst I wouldn't patronize you by pretending your pigmentation or scarring doesn't exist, I can genuinely say that it does not affect your beauty and appeal.

Good luck whatever you choose!

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TerrorFirmer- I agree with your post, i have heard that at home needling should not be of any risk if you know what you are doing....Just wondering however the down time in skin needling? Is there any at all? What does your skin look like the next day? (For example if you use the small, less intrusive needles)

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Hi Nairai,

I know exactly how you feel, hiding your face from the light that would make your scars more noticeable. I have the same obsession. And overall I find your story quite similar to mine. Even though I don't break out any more, I still occasionally get some spot or cyst that leaves me with scar (my skin is super sensitive to scarring after Accutane) and it makes me go crazy! Unfortunately this is the thing we have to deal with :(.

As you probably know already, there is no such miracle that would give you your old perfect skin back, but there are several ways (that other people before me already mentioned) to make your scars look less visible. As others, I would as well recommend you needling as your fist option. It's not that painful, there is no deep injury of the skin, I personally recovered in one day and results can be really really good! Some people do it at home, which is a lot cheaper than doing it professionally, but I'm too afraid of doing something wrong with those long needles and causing even more damage to my skin. I had 3 treatments so far, twice with 1.5mm and the last one with 2.0mm. I definitely see some improvement, my scars are not so indent any more, but they are still there and they are still visible. I will do some more episodes in fall, because summer is not the best time for any type of scar treatment.

About the sun exposure: protect your skin with SPF 30+ and stay away from the strong sun but you don't need to exaggerate. As long as your skin is protected with sunscreen you should be fine!

If you have any more question feel free to ask and good luck! :)

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Quirky Fox- Did you see much results with derma rolling at all?


My Skin Care Regime


** Morning **

1. DermaQuest C3 Cleanser

2. DermaQuest Niacinamide B3 serum

3. DermaQuest C3 serum (Vitamin C)

4. DermaQuest Stem Cell 3D Daily Moisturiser (tinted) SPF 15 or

DermaQuest Daily Moisturising Lotion SPF 15 (on weekends)

** Makeup **

1. DermaQuest DermaPerfection Primer

2. Dermablend Smooth Indulgence Foundation SPF 15

3. Dermablend Setting Powder


** Night **

1. DermaQuest C3 Cleanser

2. DermaQuest Algae Facial Scrub (every second night)

3. DermaQuest Niacinamide B3 serum

4. DermaQuest Retexture serum (Vitamin A) (every second night)

5. DermaQuest Skin Rehydrating Serum (every other night)

6. DermaQuest Clarifying Pads (5% salicylic acid) (for my biggest acne prone areas)

7. DermaQuest DermaClear TX (for acne spots)

8. Swisse Ultiboost Hair Skin and Nails (vitamin supplement)


*** Current Treatment Plan ***

2010-2011: 5 x Fraxel Re:Store sessions - maybe 10-15% improvement.

2012-2013: 5 x Dermaroller sessions - at least 70% improvement!

2013: One eDermastamp treatment down, one more to go in Oct!


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Tamaara, lovely to meet another Dermaroller fanatic! So happy that you also had the professional treatments and that you are happy with them. It's also great that I am not the only one trying to convince people to see a professional instead of attempting at home treatments. I wish you all the very best! xx

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Hey Quirky Fox,

I am interested in knowing more about your dermarolling treatments. I am in New Zealand and am wondering how to find a good practitioner. Do you know what training your person has, and what length needles she uses? Could you describe what a treatment involves- like how many times she rolls each part of the face, does she go both horizontal and vertical with the roller etc? Did she come recommended to you or did you just find her by chance? Thanks!

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Tamaara, lovely to meet another Dermaroller fanatic! So happy that you also had the professional treatments and that you are happy with them. It's also great that I am not the only one trying to convince people to see a professional instead of attempting at home treatments. I wish you all the very best! xx

Thanks Quirky Fox smile.png! It's true, I'm a huge dermaroller fan. Can't wait to do new sessions in October and see even more improvement. I agree with you, all this procedures are delicate for your skin and there is a good reason why original dermaroller doesn't sell long needles for home use! If you want original, you can only get it done professionally.

I had 3 treatments so far. My dermatologist actually told me 3 is maximum, since they believe this is all you need and your skin isn't getting any better with higher number of treatments. What is your experience? I can see you did it 5 times. Is there a big difference between 3 and 5?

Thanks a lot smile.png


My Skin Care Regime


** Morning **

1. DermaQuest C3 Cleanser

2. DermaQuest Niacinamide B3 serum

3. DermaQuest C3 serum (Vitamin C)

4. DermaQuest Stem Cell 3D Daily Moisturiser (tinted) SPF 15 or

DermaQuest Daily Moisturising Lotion SPF 15 (on weekends)

** Makeup **

1. DermaQuest DermaPerfection Primer

2. Dermablend Smooth Indulgence Foundation SPF 15

3. Dermablend Setting Powder


** Night **

1. DermaQuest C3 Cleanser

2. DermaQuest Algae Facial Scrub (every second night)

3. DermaQuest Niacinamide B3 serum

4. DermaQuest Retexture serum (Vitamin A) (every second night)

5. DermaQuest Skin Rehydrating Serum (every other night)

6. DermaQuest Clarifying Pads (5% salicylic acid) (for my biggest acne prone areas)

7. DermaQuest DermaClear TX (for acne spots)

8. Swisse Ultiboost Hair Skin and Nails (vitamin supplement)


*** Current Treatment Plan ***

2010-2011: 5 x Fraxel Re:Store sessions - maybe 10-15% improvement.

2012-2013: 5 x Dermaroller sessions - at least 70% improvement!

2013: One eDermastamp treatment down, one more to go in Oct!


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Thanks so much Quirky Fox!! There is a place in my small city that offers the genuine Dermaroller treatment so I will try them and see how it goes smile.pngsmile.png Did you have any enlarged pores/tiny icepicks? Just wondering if they respond to Dermarolling. My problem areas are my cheeks which have some shallow indentations and also these tiny icepicks.

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Thanks so much Quirky Fox!! There is a place in my small city that offers the genuine Dermaroller treatment so I will try them and see how it goes smile.pngsmile.png Did you have any enlarged pores/tiny icepicks? Just wondering if they respond to Dermarolling. My problem areas are my cheeks which have some shallow indentations and also these tiny icepicks.

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Hey Hiddy Cheeks,

I have read about Dermapen and I went as far as making enquiries at a place in Auckland that offers it, but I think I feel a bit safer with Dermarolling as I have come across some people online who have had their skin really damaged by over enthusiastic use of the Dermapen. I am a bit worried about any form of needling because my skin heals so badly and I wonder if more trauma will make things worse, but I think I will give it a try anyway.

Have you investigated a dermatologist called Dr Kevin McKerrow? This website won't let me link to his website (skinspecialistcentre). I haven't heard anything about him but he seems pretty well qualified and does subcision and fillers. I might make an appointment with him if the Dermarolling doesn't work for me.

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Tamaara, lovely to meet another Dermaroller fanatic! So happy that you also had the professional treatments and that you are happy with them. It's also great that I am not the only one trying to convince people to see a professional instead of attempting at home treatments. I wish you all the very best! xx

Thanks Quirky Fox smile.png! It's true, I'm a huge dermaroller fan. Can't wait to do new sessions in October and see even more improvement. I agree with you, all this procedures are delicate for your skin and there is a good reason why original dermaroller doesn't sell long needles for home use! If you want original, you can only get it done professionally.

I had 3 treatments so far. My dermatologist actually told me 3 is maximum, since they believe this is all you need and your skin isn't getting any better with higher number of treatments. What is your experience? I can see you did it 5 times. Is there a big difference between 3 and 5?

Thanks a lot smile.png

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Hey Hiddy Cheeks,

I have read about Dermapen and I went as far as making enquiries at a place in Auckland that offers it, but I think I feel a bit safer with Dermarolling as I have come across some people online who have had their skin really damaged by over enthusiastic use of the Dermapen. I am a bit worried about any form of needling because my skin heals so badly and I wonder if more trauma will make things worse, but I think I will give it a try anyway.

Have you investigated a dermatologist called Dr Kevin McKerrow? This website won't let me link to his website (skinspecialistcentre). I haven't heard anything about him but he seems pretty well qualified and does subcision and fillers. I might make an appointment with him if the Dermarolling doesn't work for me.

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The sun is damaging to our skin! Whatever you do do not budge from the darkness of your house until you're wearing sunscreen. Even 5 minutes of direct sun exposure is enough to cause collagen breakdown thus leading to our scars looking much worse. Trust me on this!

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Thanks so much Quirky Fox!! There is a place in my small city that offers the genuine Dermaroller treatment so I will try them and see how it goes smile.pngsmile.png Did you have any enlarged pores/tiny icepicks? Just wondering if they respond to Dermarolling. My problem areas are my cheeks which have some shallow indentations and also these tiny icepicks.

Big pores, yes but no to ice-pick scarring. I have heard from others that the Dermaroller isn't so crash hot with ice-pick scarring but I can't really comment personally, sorry. But my pores do look so much better. smile.png

Tamaara, lovely to meet another Dermaroller fanatic! So happy that you also had the professional treatments and that you are happy with them. It's also great that I am not the only one trying to convince people to see a professional instead of attempting at home treatments. I wish you all the very best! xx

Thanks Quirky Fox smile.png! It's true, I'm a huge dermaroller fan. Can't wait to do new sessions in October and see even more improvement. I agree with you, all this procedures are delicate for your skin and there is a good reason why original dermaroller doesn't sell long needles for home use! If you want original, you can only get it done professionally.

I had 3 treatments so far. My dermatologist actually told me 3 is maximum, since they believe this is all you need and your skin isn't getting any better with higher number of treatments. What is your experience? I can see you did it 5 times. Is there a big difference between 3 and 5?

Thanks a lot smile.png

Interesting that they told you 3 was max. For me it was a maximum of 6 but to take it to at least 5 to see what the outcome was then. I didn't see much in the way of improvements after two sessions and was feeling like I'd made the wrong choice. But after the 3rd, 4th and 5th sessions I was amazed. It took time to really see the results. I am still seeing improvements even now and have decided to wait until the end of Winter to gauge my final results before I think about whether I need to do any other kind of treatment. smile.png


My Skin Care Regime


** Morning **

1. DermaQuest C3 Cleanser

2. DermaQuest Niacinamide B3 serum

3. DermaQuest C3 serum (Vitamin C)

4. DermaQuest Stem Cell 3D Daily Moisturiser (tinted) SPF 15 or

DermaQuest Daily Moisturising Lotion SPF 15 (on weekends)

** Makeup **

1. DermaQuest DermaPerfection Primer

2. Dermablend Smooth Indulgence Foundation SPF 15

3. Dermablend Setting Powder


** Night **

1. DermaQuest C3 Cleanser

2. DermaQuest Algae Facial Scrub (every second night)

3. DermaQuest Niacinamide B3 serum

4. DermaQuest Retexture serum (Vitamin A) (every second night)

5. DermaQuest Skin Rehydrating Serum (every other night)

6. DermaQuest Clarifying Pads (5% salicylic acid) (for my biggest acne prone areas)

7. DermaQuest DermaClear TX (for acne spots)

8. Swisse Ultiboost Hair Skin and Nails (vitamin supplement)


*** Current Treatment Plan ***

2010-2011: 5 x Fraxel Re:Store sessions - maybe 10-15% improvement.

2012-2013: 5 x Dermaroller sessions - at least 70% improvement!

2013: One eDermastamp treatment down, one more to go in Oct!


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^^ Sun is food. There were used to be cliniques with just using sun as their treatment.

We cant absob the sun due to toxins.When you walk in the city the sun goes into you,but all

those metals and toxins in the air from cars etc make sun to trap into your body and cause damage,.

Also deficiency in organic sulphur makes the cells not elastic thus sun damages them.

Sun is good we cant absorb sun unless we become again clean.

Coconut oil is the best sun screen in the world.But i believe it is just the coconuts oil nature that

make your face capable of absorbing the sun,

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Yeah I wouldn't take that chance. I think wearing sunscreen is very important to keep skin looking healthy.

Just go look at my outdoor furniture after sitting in the sun for a year! It has been destroyed from the uv's

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^^ Sun is food. There were used to be cliniques with just using sun as their treatment.

We cant absob the sun due to toxins.When you walk in the city the sun goes into you,but all

those metals and toxins in the air from cars etc make sun to trap into your body and cause damage,.

Also deficiency in organic sulphur makes the cells not elastic thus sun damages them.

Sun is good we cant absorb sun unless we become again clean.

Coconut oil is the best sun screen in the world.But i believe it is just the coconuts oil nature that

make your face capable of absorbing the sun,


My Skin Care Regime


** Morning **

1. DermaQuest C3 Cleanser

2. DermaQuest Niacinamide B3 serum

3. DermaQuest C3 serum (Vitamin C)

4. DermaQuest Stem Cell 3D Daily Moisturiser (tinted) SPF 15 or

DermaQuest Daily Moisturising Lotion SPF 15 (on weekends)

** Makeup **

1. DermaQuest DermaPerfection Primer

2. Dermablend Smooth Indulgence Foundation SPF 15

3. Dermablend Setting Powder


** Night **

1. DermaQuest C3 Cleanser

2. DermaQuest Algae Facial Scrub (every second night)

3. DermaQuest Niacinamide B3 serum

4. DermaQuest Retexture serum (Vitamin A) (every second night)

5. DermaQuest Skin Rehydrating Serum (every other night)

6. DermaQuest Clarifying Pads (5% salicylic acid) (for my biggest acne prone areas)

7. DermaQuest DermaClear TX (for acne spots)

8. Swisse Ultiboost Hair Skin and Nails (vitamin supplement)


*** Current Treatment Plan ***

2010-2011: 5 x Fraxel Re:Store sessions - maybe 10-15% improvement.

2012-2013: 5 x Dermaroller sessions - at least 70% improvement!

2013: One eDermastamp treatment down, one more to go in Oct!


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