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You Want To See Cortisone Atrophy? I'll Show You Atrophy.

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it's like 3 indents that are really most noticeable when I smile, as they are on the sides of my chin. They look like wrinkles when I smile. If only I had never gotten those shots...

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Has anyone tried using copper peptide products for their indents? I'm specifically looking at the SkinBiology product line (like their acne scar reduction kit which includes their copper serum and super cop 2x).

They are supposed to help build up collagen better than even retinol products but I have no experience with either, and wonder if they work too slow to really matter for cortisone atrophy.

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Has anyone tried using copper peptide products for their indents? I'm specifically looking at the SkinBiology product line (like their acne scar reduction kit which includes their copper serum and super cop 2x).

They are supposed to help build up collagen better than even retinol products but I have no experience with either, and wonder if they work too slow to really matter for cortisone atrophy.

Be careful with copper peptides. Look up "copper peptide uglies". I was using Neova's copper peptide mask some months ago, as recommended by my former esthetician, and I can honestly say it made my skin thinner and more prone to scarring. At first, I had decent results with controlling acne and with skin texture, but I used it too frequently instead of starting slow. My skin was worse off after using copper peptides, and I read online other people's similar experiences. They say your skin goes through an adjustment period, but mine just looked like crepe paper, it was pretty bad.

Cortisone also thins your skin and can make it more prone to scarring.

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I just wanted to update since no one else has and I know each success story made me feel better when I read them. I had my shot sept 2nd and I had atrophy after 2 days. It really didn't improve at all the first month and actually looked worse at the very beginning of October. However, I have seen a lot of improvement this week and it has probably gotten 75% better. It's still discolored and very slightly depressed but soooo much better than it was and I feel that it will only continue to improve. I didn't have any saline flushes :) cheers to you all and keep the faith that it will improve!! I honestly think that if the atrophy is from cortisone and not the zit than it will most definitely * at least* improve greatly from the initial, terrifying depression that you see.

Good luck and stop looking at it! (I know that's nearly impossible though!)

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Congratulations on your progress!! It has been a bit over 5 months since my cortisone shot and almost 2 months since my last saline shot and my skin is 90% improved with regard to the indentation!!!! All of the progress has happened in the last month! I still have discoloration and perhaps a bit of indent, but I am just so so grateful that the big hole is gone! Honestly what helped me is to stop staring at it / it was almost like a watched teapot not being able to boil! Good luck to you all ad keep us updated!!

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So the body will naturally fill in deep indents caused by cortisone injections but it won't fill in even very shallow indents caused by acne. I don't get that???

It's because there's no real scar, and the dent is simply a hormonal response to the cortisone (skin thinning, fat loss etc) which will reverse once the cortisone wears off.

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Anyone know how I can fully read this article on cortisone atrophy and saline injections? people keep posting the link to it, but i can only read the little abstract, i cant actually read the full article.

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I wanted to give an update on my atrophy. I was waiting to post an update after I had my DermaTude (new method of skin needling) done. While it has improved very much, it is still not 100% gone. I am at 19 weeks since the initial injection, and about 17 weeks since the atrophy occurred. Sometimes it is barely noticeable and other times its very noticeable. There is no long a hole in my face but skin where the hole was, is thinner. Not plump like the rest.

My derm says to give it a full six months. Sometimes up to a year. I was thinking about doing some saline injections but honestly, I am so over dealing with it. It's become very stressful to me. And I think I need a break. Just wanted to give you guys an updated. Hope all is well with everyone

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Also, I was one of the few that experienced breakouts around the area due to the kenalog. So that has just made it worse.

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Brief update - I still have an indentation and bluish discolouration but it is much better than it was before and gradually improving. I feel better about it these days (limiting mirror checking is a real help, as is not inspecting for progress more often that every few weeks). It has been nearly 5 months since the dent appeared. I suspect at this rate it will take at least another month or two to fill up, though I'm not sure the underlying tissue will ever be quite the same. Only time will tell. Will update again at some point.

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Brief update - I still have an indentation and bluish discolouration but it is much better than it was before and gradually improving. I feel better about it these days (limiting mirror checking is a real help, as is not inspecting for progress more often that every few weeks). It has been nearly 5 months since the dent appeared. I suspect at this rate it will take at least another month or two to fill up, though I'm not sure the underlying tissue will ever be quite the same. Only time will tell. Will update again at some point.

I feel the same way. I really don't think mine will ever be 100%. Who knows though, the skin does some crazy things....as we all know.

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Does anyone have any positive feedback regarding the atrophy?

I'm starting to get VERY discouraged. On November 5th, it will be 5 months since the kenalog injection. While it does look better, it's still very noticeable. And it's getting to just be down right embarrassing. I'm sick of having an area of thinned skin with jaggid edges. I feel like people at work and my friends keep looking at it. And I know they are thinking "what the heck happened and why isn't it healing?". It's feeling almost humiliating to me.

On Monday I am going to start a series (and be consistent, every 2 weeks) of saline injections. It's my last hope.

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Hi everyone! Man I'm so sorry that this has turned into a giant depressing thread! I hope everyone is doing well.

It was 6 months last friday I believe. I feel I am back to normal. There is a slight indentation where the one gigantic hole was, but I'm

confident that no one notices this besides me. I feel like myself again, actually even more outgoing than I was before since I hid myself for the past year. If it gets even better that's great, but if it doesn't I'll be okay with it.

I think it's hard to believe you will get better. I couldn't believe my mom, my doctors, any of you I've messaged with that came out the other side okay. But I did! And this experience has taught me a lot - doctors don't always know best, ask questions, when in doubt sleep on it, and appreciate everything you have right now because it could be worse, it has been worse. I'm stronger for it, which is what I was hoping for.

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Hi everyone! Man I'm so sorry that this has turned into a giant depressing thread! I hope everyone is doing well.

It was 6 months last friday I believe. I feel I am back to normal. There is a slight indentation where the one gigantic hole was, but I'm

confident that no one notices this besides me. I feel like myself again, actually even more outgoing than I was before since I hid myself for the past year. If it gets even better that's great, but if it doesn't I'll be okay with it.

I think it's hard to believe you will get better. I couldn't believe my mom, my doctors, any of you I've messaged with that came out the other side okay. But I did! And this experience has taught me a lot - doctors don't always know best, ask questions, when in doubt sleep on it, and appreciate everything you have right now because it could be worse, it has been worse. I'm stronger for it, which is what I was hoping for.

Thank you for your reassurance. I think it's difficult to believe that it will get better since its been there for so long. Hopefully by my 6 month mark it will be hardly noticeable or gone. It's been even more difficult because I've had clogged pores, and even some milia right in that area. Almost en circling the atrophy. I don't know if its because the skin in confused?? I also heard that sprionolactone (which I've been on for about 2 months) can slow healing. Who knows. I'm just over having to look at this every day. I'm going to my Derm on Monday.

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Oh I know exactly how you feel. It's TOUGH. This has been the hardest thing psychologically. But I think I'm on the home stretch. I'm close to 6 months since the cortisone injection so I've had this indentation for over 5 months (crazy!). It is finally getting to the stage where I feel like I can show my face mostly without embarrassement. I can still see it, and the discolouration is still there a bit, but I think it looks more like a garden variety little imperfection now than a hole in my face! And it is still improving so I have faith it'll heal.

From my experience and others here, it seems like 6 months is a typical timeline to expect for a decent sized dent but not one to get hung up on. I had 3 saline injections along the way that seemed to speed things along so hopefully those help you too. They were not a miracle cure but definitely seemed to kick start some healing. But progress is always slow. So slow it's easy to convince yourself it's not happening but try not to analyze it too closely too often. Visible progress happens over weeks (or months), not days. It's brutal.

I'm also someone who really doubted for a long time that this would heal but I think now that it will.

PS Now that the dent is much shallower, I've found that a bit of primer (layered on top of my makeup) softens the edges so it looks even less noticeable. It didn't do much when the dent was bigger but worth a shot.

Does anyone have any positive feedback regarding the atrophy?

I'm starting to get VERY discouraged. On November 5th, it will be 5 months since the kenalog injection. While it does look better, it's still very noticeable. And it's getting to just be down right embarrassing. I'm sick of having an area of thinned skin with jaggid edges. I feel like people at work and my friends keep looking at it. And I know they are thinking "what the heck happened and why isn't it healing?". It's feeling almost humiliating to me.

On Monday I am going to start a series (and be consistent, every 2 weeks) of saline injections. It's my last hope.

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Oh I know exactly how you feel. It's TOUGH. This has been the hardest thing psychologically. But I think I'm on the home stretch. I'm close to 6 months since the cortisone injection so I've had this indentation for over 5 months (crazy!). It is finally getting to the stage where I feel like I can show my face mostly without embarrassement. I can still see it, and the discolouration is still there a bit, but I think it looks more like a garden variety little imperfection now than a hole in my face! And it is still improving so I have faith it'll heal.

From my experience and others here, it seems like 6 months is a typical timeline to expect for a decent sized dent but not one to get hung up on. I had 3 saline injections along the way that seemed to speed things along so hopefully those help you too. They were not a miracle cure but definitely seemed to kick start some healing. But progress is always slow. So slow it's easy to convince yourself it's not happening but try not to analyze it too closely too often. Visible progress happens over weeks (or months), not days. It's brutal.

I'm also someone who really doubted for a long time that this would heal but I think now that it will.

PS Now that the dent is much shallower, I've found that a bit of primer (layered on top of my makeup) softens the edges so it looks even less noticeable. It didn't do much when the dent was bigger but worth a shot.

Does anyone have any positive feedback regarding the atrophy?

I'm starting to get VERY discouraged. On November 5th, it will be 5 months since the kenalog injection. While it does look better, it's still very noticeable. And it's getting to just be down right embarrassing. I'm sick of having an area of thinned skin with jaggid edges. I feel like people at work and my friends keep looking at it. And I know they are thinking "what the heck happened and why isn't it healing?". It's feeling almost humiliating to me.

On Monday I am going to start a series (and be consistent, every 2 weeks) of saline injections. It's my last hope.

Thanks Supernova for your feedback. It's been a very difficult time for me, that's for sure. I'm wondering if I should do the saline or just let it heal on its own? I'm going to talk to my Derm tomorrow. It for sure looks much better but there's still one side with jagged edges and it looks too irregular. One more month to go and it will be 6 months. At almost 30, my skin just doesn't heal like it used to. It takes forever! I've had a lingering bump for a former cystic pimple RIGHT by the atrophy. So that's just adding salt to the wound.

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I had a saline injection yesterday. And today I have a bruise. Lovely. Just making that area so much more noticeable. Today was a bad day. Everyone at work I could tell was looking at it. Make up hardly covered it. But then again, I only use a BB cream and mineral powder.

Anyways.....my Derm said I would most likely need NINE treatments. Yes, NINE! I could tell she had pity for me since its been 5 months and has not resolved (this is a Derm at dr. Sires office in Fullerton, not the same place that did the kenalog). What's strange to me is that all of the studies I've read online mention only 4-6 treatments to see full resolution. She only injected 1cc. The studies I've read seem to be injecting more. If she would have injected more I can only imagine what the bruise would look like!

I'm scheduled to have another one in 2 weeks. I'm still weighing it out right now. Part of me what's to continue with the saline injections since the past month has shown NO improvement on its own. But the other part of me is starting to get fed up with this consuming my life and causing me so much stress and worry.

I just want it gone.

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I'm sorry Jenna. Is the atrophy better due to the filler and you're just trying to fix the thin skin?

I had to get another round of boletero injections 3 months after my first because it wore off so quickly. I've already dumped $1200 in fillers to fix the atrophy. While it looks much better, who knows how soon I'll have to get more. I can't afford to keep doing this. I hope it fills in on it's own before I have to get the next one.

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I'm sorry Jenna. Is the atrophy better due to the filler and you're just trying to fix the thin skin?

I had to get another round of boletero injections 3 months after my first because it wore off so quickly. I've already dumped $1200 in fillers to fix the atrophy. While it looks much better, who knows how soon I'll have to get more. I can't afford to keep doing this. I hope it fills in on it's own before I have to get the next one.

Hey Hopful503,

Yes, at this point I am trying to fix the thinned skin. The filler seems to have made it level (no hole in my face). I did notice today that one small area did fill in. Not sure if its from the saline or just coincidence. I think I'm going to do a few more saline injections and go from there.

The only other option would be to see a plastic surgeon. But I think I would wait until the one year mark to do that route.

How is yours looking? Did you still have a dent when the boletero wore off?

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I don't have the dent because I got boletero again within 3 months of my first treatment. I hope this vial lasts longer. I hope the skin improves for you. I think it will. Just think that red marks can sometimes take months to go away but they always do. I imagine the skin will gradually improve as well. It will just take time.

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I don't have the dent because I got boletero again within 3 months of my first treatment. I hope this vial lasts longer. I hope the skin improves for you. I think it will. Just think that red marks can

sometimes take months to go away but they always do. I imagine the skin will gradually improve as well. It will just take time.

Gosh I hope your right. I am actually looking into filing a lawsuit. I've spoken with a few lawyers so think I have legal action here

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I was considering pursuing legal action as well. As recently as last week actually. I emailed a lawyer and got no response. What had the lawyers told you?

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I don't have the dent because I got boletero again within 3 months of my first treatment. I hope this vial lasts longer. I hope the skin improves for you. I think it will. Just think that red marks can

sometimes take months to go away but they always do. I imagine the skin will gradually improve as well. It will just take time.

When your 1st round of filler wore off, did it look any better than in the beginning ?

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Yes. It only wore off in one area in between my eyes where I have a lot of muscle movement. The dents in my chin stayed filled in.

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Yes. It only wore off in one area in between my eyes where I have a lot of muscle movement. The dents in my chin stayed filled in.

Oh ok. Yeah mine has stayed filled in pretty well. I'm wondering if I do a series of saline injectins, if the saline will dissolve the filler. My Derm said it shouldn't....but I have a hard time trusting the medical field these days.

And also, I had my filler in June. So I'm sure it's starting to wear off anyways though

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