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#21 AuguriesofInnocence

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 04:37 AM

deja, I could hug you for this wub.png

That was always my dilemma, IF you know what causes acne you can avoid it, but HOW do we know??

Even if you get skin tests/bood tests for allergies, not everything will show up. If there were a list for me of what to eat and how much to eat, Id be fine and never complain but there never will be because medicine simply isnt that advanced yet. Sure, one could say its trial and error but were all sick of trying and sick of being wrong.

I have PCOS, Ive had acne since I was 12. My acne was always mild. For the past 4 years Ive eaten healthy--not just apples or lettuce or water alone--it was only last year when my acne got really bad. I  went crazy with the diet thing out of desperation. Once I took yaz and anti-DHT supplements my skin got clear and has stayed clear. Sure I know there are risks to birth control, but there are risks to everything in life. Id rather take a pill with some risks than have acne and mood swings and horrific bleeding every month. If I have to stay on birth control till Im 50 I will, its my choice. Everything has its price.

I am glad you have come to peace with food deja, because in life there are so many things better than spending our time obsessing over acne.

Thats all I have to say on the subject, Peace everyone <3

TBH, if diet is indeed causing acne, it is so difficult to find out what food it is.

 

There are people who break out from ANYTHING grain related and dairy related... but can eat processed sausages as much as they want without breaking out

 

Others only break out from wheat (gluten).

 

Others only dairy

 

Others can break-out from a fucking banana (so if you eat 100% safe diet but are still eating bananas, IT DOESNT MATTER, you will get acne if you are sensitive to bananas).

 

Others from citrus fruits.

 

Hell, my brother eats hot pockets, sour punch, gogurt, WE ARE IDENTICAL TWINS, and my body acne is worse than his.

 

I know a girl who breaks out in SEVERE acne from most commercial american dairy. She can eat wheat/grains all she wants but gets no acne from them.

 

Yes food can definitely cause acne, and everyone has their own unique triggers. For me it's gluten, soy, dairy and anything fermented/probiotic, although I seem to be able to handle small bits of some of those things (not gluten) now that I'm medicated properly. The message I'm trying to spread now is to eat as normally as possible, aside from any obvious triggers or things your body doesn't react well to in general (stomach aches etc). By "normal" I mean what a normal, healthy-minded person who cares about their body while still living a normal happy life would do. I don't mean "normal" in the sense of some alcoholic who drinks all day and eats nothing but Taco Bell, even though people like that are unfortunately quite common.

 

Also... I'd appreciate it if we wouldn't say things like "If you can't eat healthy without getting an eating disorder, don't."  or that people who develop eating disorders have "poor coping skills." I've seen things like that said more than a few times and I've found it insulting. I do not have poor coping skills. I have great coping skills. The problem wasn't my inability to cope with my dietary needs, it was the confusion of having no idea what my dietary needs were. If anyone, at any point in time would have been able to sit me down and give me a healthy diet, I could have followed it without any problems coping. The problems came from some people saying to eat nutrient-dense foods like sweet potatoes and other people saying that sweet potatoes will clog your gut, feed candida and give you a face full of acne. You see? That's not an inability to cope, it's confusion.

 

No one PLANS to get an eating disorder. These things develop because of these vague yet extremely strict ideas about health that unfortunately are perpetuated on sites like this, such as "grains are bad" or "sugar feeds candida." People develop eating disorders because they are desperate to change something about their body and don't know how to do it in a healthy way. No one develops orthorexia on purpose. I didn't know I would get it, I didn't even know that I had it until it had progressed to a point where I was afraid to drink water or eat anything but lettuce.


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 02:47 PM

OP- I agree with you. Diets can work for some, but not everybody is the same. Different people react differently to acne. I've been dairy-free/gluten-free for a few months and at first I thought my acne was improving, but it made no difference. Everyone has different triggers for their acne (diet, stress, hormones, etc) I suspect that my acne is hormone-related; I'll have to take a blood test and find out.


On a dairy free, low gluten diet

 

Morning:

 

Wash face with Diva Stuff Premium Acne Face Wash with Charcoal,Sulfur and B3

After washing face, apply Neutrogena On-The-Spot on T-Zone, and tone cheeks with diluted tea tree oil

Moisturize cheeks with Skin Ceuticals Phyto Corrective Gel

Drink green smoothie (coconut milk, kale, frozen berries)

Take 100mg Doxycycline

 

Night:

 

Wash face with Diva Stuff Premium Acne Face Wash with Charcoal,Sulfur and B3

Apply tretinoin cream 0.01% to T-Zone, and tone cheeks with diluted tea tree oil

Moisturize cheeks with Skin Ceuticals Phyto Corrective Gel

Take 100mg Doxycycline

 


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 05:39 PM

OP- I agree with you. Diets can work for some, but not everybody is the same. Different people react differently to acne. I've been dairy-free/gluten-free for a few months and at first I thought my acne was improving, but it made no difference. Everyone has different triggers for their acne (diet, stress, hormones, etc) I suspect that my acne is hormone-related; I'll have to take a blood test and find out.

But diet does affect hormones so altering your diet can affect hormonal acne.



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Posted 25 April 2013 - 04:31 AM

yes...but do you know how, exactly? What foods to eat and what not to eat? Most of us dont which is where the frustration comes in. lol

OP- I agree with you. Diets can work for some, but not everybody is the same. Different people react differently to acne. I've been dairy-free/gluten-free for a few months and at first I thought my acne was improving, but it made no difference. Everyone has different triggers for their acne (diet, stress, hormones, etc) I suspect that my acne is hormone-related; I'll have to take a blood test and find out.

But diet does affect hormones so altering your diet can affect hormonal acne.



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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:52 AM

yes...but do you know how, exactly? What foods to eat and what not to eat? Most of us dont which is where the frustration comes in. lol

 

OP- I agree with you. Diets can work for some, but not everybody is the same. Different people react differently to acne. I've been dairy-free/gluten-free for a few months and at first I thought my acne was improving, but it made no difference. Everyone has different triggers for their acne (diet, stress, hormones, etc) I suspect that my acne is hormone-related; I'll have to take a blood test and find out.

But diet does affect hormones so altering your diet can affect hormonal acne.

If you eat meals with a low glycemic load your blood sugar should become stabilized after a period of time which should also regulate your hormones. Currently I take metformin after meals to stabilize my blood sugar and it has regulated my hormones and acne to an extent. If I was to follow a low gl diet my blood sugar would be even more stable which I assume would help my acne even more than the metformin. Hopefully soon I'll get the chance to try it out.

 

edit: I also want to add that my acne IS hormonal. I have PCOS and my male hormones are high. Spiro worked great for me but also made half my hair fall out. Metformin doesn't work quiet as well as spiro, but I'm not really getting inflamed acne anymore. I'm also on a low dose of metformin and I'm not really helping the situation by not eating like I should.


Edited by paigems, 25 April 2013 - 11:56 AM.


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:49 PM


- Use websites like Web Md or the Mayo Clinic for accurate medical information

 

Web MD article on the diet and acne connection: http://www.webmd.com...1/diet-and-skin


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:54 PM

Just tibits i'd thought i'd add:

 

Acne in textbooks (atleast for my nursing classes which are used for the whole state) are lacking god awful amounts of information; evidenced based information. It is repeated in my maternity/ pediatric textbook that acne is NOT caused by diet. It is stated many times. However medline plus (evidenced based site) states otherwise, yet future doctors and nurses are being preached "not diet related".instead is related to puberty related to increase in hormones and bad hygiene practices.

 

Anyone on this site who has done research knows there are more causes and more exceptions to the rule. However do not reticule doctors and nurses because this is what they are taught.

 

So my advice is be your own advocate. Investigate your own causes, aggreviating factors, and what works and what doesnt. In the meantime be supportive of each other.

 

I've had my roundswith alternatvista, i do not agree with everything she posts or advocates for. However i respect her opinion and her dedication. I wish people would do the same. If that means that they completely change their diet, added some product, something in or out of their life and it worked then so be it. Congratulations. For those that try and nothing happens or works, try try try again. Do not blow up at us or them or whatever.

 

 

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 05:26 AM

hey, I have PCOS too but am one of the odd ones who is underweight and I have no blood sugar problems. I actually tried a low glycemic diet, I cut out all processed foods, sugar and ate mostly veggies protein and good fats like salmon and olive oil. I drank only water and teas. My acne was at its worst when I ate the healthiest! It just so happned my hormones were so crazy nothing I ate would change that. I didnt necessarily have very high male hormones but I must be sensitive to normal amounts. My skin was super oily and I had cystic acne on my jawline chin and back. The only thing which helped was taking yaz along with anti-DHT supplements.

If you have PCOS how are you treateing it?

If you have blood sugar issues/insulin resistance its a good idea to stick to a low glycemic diet but for me, it didnt help my skin, unfortunately.

 

yes...but do you know how, exactly? What foods to eat and what not to eat? Most of us dont which is where the frustration comes in. lol

 

OP- I agree with you. Diets can work for some, but not everybody is the same. Different people react differently to acne. I've been dairy-free/gluten-free for a few months and at first I thought my acne was improving, but it made no difference. Everyone has different triggers for their acne (diet, stress, hormones, etc) I suspect that my acne is hormone-related; I'll have to take a blood test and find out.

But diet does affect hormones so altering your diet can affect hormonal acne.

If you eat meals with a low glycemic load your blood sugar should become stabilized after a period of time which should also regulate your hormones. Currently I take metformin after meals to stabilize my blood sugar and it has regulated my hormones and acne to an extent. If I was to follow a low gl diet my blood sugar would be even more stable which I assume would help my acne even more than the metformin. Hopefully soon I'll get the chance to try it out.

 

edit: I also want to add that my acne IS hormonal. I have PCOS and my male hormones are high. Spiro worked great for me but also made half my hair fall out. Metformin doesn't work quiet as well as spiro, but I'm not really getting inflamed acne anymore. I'm also on a low dose of metformin and I'm not really helping the situation by not eating like I should.



Great post! Thank you, doctors and nurses just teach what they are taught. I personally dont think derms who have never had acne should be allowed to treat acne. lol.

I have had 4 conditions which were misdiagnosed in 2 years, i eventualaly got the correct diagnosis because I researched my own problems and printed out the symptom list and handed it to the doctors...who I then paid after doing my own work(you still need them for the prescreiptons).

Truth is, doctors are taught, "when you hear hooves,  look for a horse" ...but sometimes its a zebra. Or a pronghorn antelope...rolleyes.gif

 

 

Just tibits i'd thought i'd add:

 

Acne in textbooks (atleast for my nursing classes which are used for the whole state) are lacking god awful amounts of information; evidenced based information. It is repeated in my maternity/ pediatric textbook that acne is NOT caused by diet. It is stated many times. However medline plus (evidenced based site) states otherwise, yet future doctors and nurses are being preached "not diet related".instead is related to puberty related to increase in hormones and bad hygiene practices.

 

Anyone on this site who has done research knows there are more causes and more exceptions to the rule. However do not reticule doctors and nurses because this is what they are taught.

 

So my advice is be your own advocate. Investigate your own causes, aggreviating factors, and what works and what doesnt. In the meantime be supportive of each other.

 

I've had my roundswith alternatvista, i do not agree with everything she posts or advocates for. However i respect her opinion and her dedication. I wish people would do the same. If that means that they completely change their diet, added some product, something in or out of their life and it worked then so be it. Congratulations. For those that try and nothing happens or works, try try try again. Do not blow up at us or them or whatever.

 

 

Yes, i am back from a long hiatus. Although i like to keep touch as there is always new information or things to read up on.


Edited by AuguriesofInnocence, 26 April 2013 - 05:27 AM.


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Posted 26 April 2013 - 12:34 PM

hey, I have PCOS too but am one of the odd ones who is underweight and I have no blood sugar problems. I actually tried a low glycemic diet, I cut out all processed foods, sugar and ate mostly veggies protein and good fats like salmon and olive oil. I drank only water and teas. My acne was at its worst when I ate the healthiest! It just so happned my hormones were so crazy nothing I ate would change that. I didnt necessarily have very high male hormones but I must be sensitive to normal amounts. My skin was super oily and I had cystic acne on my jawline chin and back. The only thing which helped was taking yaz along with anti-DHT supplements.

If you have PCOS how are you treateing it?

If you have blood sugar issues/insulin resistance its a good idea to stick to a low glycemic diet but for me, it didnt help my skin, unfortunately.


 

 

I'm also thin with PCOS (5'6", 120lbs.). My testosterone and DHEA are high according to my doctor and my blood sugar is also considered normal. I've tried using Spiro and yaz/yasmin to help my PCOS, and they do help, but they also make my hair fall out in crazy amounts so I can't take them. Right now I am taking 500mg of metformin 2x a day after meals to help stabilize my blood sugar (even though I don't have blood sugar problems according to blood tests). The metformin has helped to get my testosterone down from male levels to more female levels, but it doesn't make my skin perfect like when I was on spiro or yaz/yasmin; It only makes it better. Right now I'm living at a dorm so I haven't been able to change my diet so easily because I don't have a kitchen. Soon, though, when I have a kitchen I'm going to try a low GL diet and I really really hope it works for me. Otherwise I'm sort of out of options :(



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Posted 26 April 2013 - 08:30 PM

Well good luck with it all. Its not easy, for some reason 'they' say that thin women with PCOS tend to have more problems with acne/hirsutism etc.

I have had some hair thinning but Im doing treatments for that, I dont know if its from accutane or yaz but frankly, Id rather have thinner hair than the awful symptoms from PCOS like acne, mood swings, bleeding for most of the month and all the rest.

 

Being a woman sucks, in my next life I hope to be a dolphin ;-)

hey, I have PCOS too but am one of the odd ones who is underweight and I have no blood sugar problems. I actually tried a low glycemic diet, I cut out all processed foods, sugar and ate mostly veggies protein and good fats like salmon and olive oil. I drank only water and teas. My acne was at its worst when I ate the healthiest! It just so happned my hormones were so crazy nothing I ate would change that. I didnt necessarily have very high male hormones but I must be sensitive to normal amounts. My skin was super oily and I had cystic acne on my jawline chin and back. The only thing which helped was taking yaz along with anti-DHT supplements.

If you have PCOS how are you treateing it?

If you have blood sugar issues/insulin resistance its a good idea to stick to a low glycemic diet but for me, it didnt help my skin, unfortunately.


 

 

I'm also thin with PCOS (5'6", 120lbs.). My testosterone and DHEA are high according to my doctor and my blood sugar is also considered normal. I've tried using Spiro and yaz/yasmin to help my PCOS, and they do help, but they also make my hair fall out in crazy amounts so I can't take them. Right now I am taking 500mg of metformin 2x a day after meals to help stabilize my blood sugar (even though I don't have blood sugar problems according to blood tests). The metformin has helped to get my testosterone down from male levels to more female levels, but it doesn't make my skin perfect like when I was on spiro or yaz/yasmin; It only makes it better. Right now I'm living at a dorm so I haven't been able to change my diet so easily because I don't have a kitchen. Soon, though, when I have a kitchen I'm going to try a low GL diet and I really really hope it works for me. Otherwise I'm sort of out of options sad.png



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Posted 26 April 2013 - 10:07 PM

Well back in the days I had mild / moderate acne. Than when I came to the US I started eating junk food, cola etc. and my acne became quite severe. So I think a good diet helps in controlling acne but its not a total cure.

 

Agreed. It may or may not improve acne but that doesn't mean it alone is the sole cause and cure for acne for everyone. In fact, even some of the holistic things I've read suggest that diet only accounts for maybe a third of the puzzle of healing acne holistically. Also, there was a study among teenage boys where they ate a low glycemic diet, they had improvement in their acne, but I don't think they got completely clear with the diet. I can relate to eating too little, I have been working hard to eat enough to gradually gain back weight for months, I'm getting there. 



Well good luck with it all. Its not easy, for some reason 'they' say that thin women with PCOS tend to have more problems with acne/hirsutism etc.

I have had some hair thinning but Im doing treatments for that, I dont know if its from accutane or yaz but frankly, Id rather have thinner hair than the awful symptoms from PCOS like acne, mood swings, bleeding for most of the month and all the rest.

 

Being a woman sucks, in my next life I hope to be a dolphin ;-)

 

hey, I have PCOS too but am one of the odd ones who is underweight and I have no blood sugar problems. I actually tried a low glycemic diet, I cut out all processed foods, sugar and ate mostly veggies protein and good fats like salmon and olive oil. I drank only water and teas. My acne was at its worst when I ate the healthiest! It just so happned my hormones were so crazy nothing I ate would change that. I didnt necessarily have very high male hormones but I must be sensitive to normal amounts. My skin was super oily and I had cystic acne on my jawline chin and back. The only thing which helped was taking yaz along with anti-DHT supplements.

If you have PCOS how are you treateing it?

If you have blood sugar issues/insulin resistance its a good idea to stick to a low glycemic diet but for me, it didnt help my skin, unfortunately.


 

 

I'm also thin with PCOS (5'6", 120lbs.). My testosterone and DHEA are high according to my doctor and my blood sugar is also considered normal. I've tried using Spiro and yaz/yasmin to help my PCOS, and they do help, but they also make my hair fall out in crazy amounts so I can't take them. Right now I am taking 500mg of metformin 2x a day after meals to help stabilize my blood sugar (even though I don't have blood sugar problems according to blood tests). The metformin has helped to get my testosterone down from male levels to more female levels, but it doesn't make my skin perfect like when I was on spiro or yaz/yasmin; It only makes it better. Right now I'm living at a dorm so I haven't been able to change my diet so easily because I don't have a kitchen. Soon, though, when I have a kitchen I'm going to try a low GL diet and I really really hope it works for me. Otherwise I'm sort of out of options sad.png

 

You're not necessarily out of options. Sometimes, a combination approach is good. You could try a little bit of reasonable sun exposure or using something topical (like 5% tea tree oil) or taking a supplement if it is okay to take with the metformin. I think adding 1-2 tsp of turmeric a day to foods or adding it to water like a drink helps. But sometimes, it's hard to be sure which thing is helping me since I'm doing a combination of things.


Edited by melissa6980, 26 April 2013 - 10:01 PM.


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Posted 27 April 2013 - 01:41 AM

I think everybody knows that diet attributes to acne, poor eating habits can cause hormones to flucatuate, which can worsen acne. However, those food habits only worsen acne and I don't beleive it is the root cause of acne for most people. I've tried various adaptions and omissions and my skin has been clear at both points (eating healthy and eating healthy with abit of refined food). I don't know what the cause is of my acne, but I have noticed that my acne has worsened with age. I'm currently invesitigating hormonal treatments, as I have a strong feeling that my hormones are unbalanced. In the meantime, I will as always continue to maintain a healthy lifestyle for the sake of longevity/well-being more so than acne.



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Posted 28 April 2013 - 08:14 AM


Just tibits i'd thought i'd add:
 
Acne in textbooks (atleast for my nursing classes which are used for the whole state) are lacking god awful amounts of information; evidenced based information. It is repeated in my maternity/ pediatric textbook that acne is NOT caused by diet. It is stated many times. However medline plus (evidenced based site) states otherwise, yet future doctors and nurses are being preached "not diet related".instead is related to puberty related to increase in hormones and bad hygiene practices.
 
Anyone on this site who has done research knows there are more causes and more exceptions to the rule. However do not reticule doctors and nurses because this is what they are taught.
 
So my advice is be your own advocate. Investigate your own causes, aggreviating factors, and what works and what doesnt. In the meantime be supportive of each other.
   


Obviously it is what they are taught. That is the problem. But also that they don't seem to be doing any reading on their own to keep up with research. The peer reviewed journals in which these studies are found are published for them to read.

And yes, you must be your owner advocate. Acne isn't the only condition for which doctors are indoctrinated with bad info. And medicine isn't the only industry with this problem. I'll now refrain from ranting about how incredibly bad the builder and architects are, building things completely wrong for the climate.
Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 09:21 AM

(checked myself and deleted this post LOL)

Edited by CBIOT13, 28 April 2013 - 09:32 AM.

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Here's A Few Acne.org Threads Of Mine You May Find Useful/Interesting (updated 7/25/13)

-- DIY Apple Cider Vinegar Toner http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/324606-flakydryoily-skin-try-this/

-- How to Ice Inflammed or Picked at Cysts http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/327532-acne-redness-removal-trick/

-- Milk of Magnesia Uses http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/329385-ways-to-use-milk-of-magnesia-for-oily-skin/

Other Threads Worth Looking At

-- Oily Skin Research Thread: This shows some of our previous efforts and explains the mechanisms behind oily skin.

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/326345-oily-skin-research/

-- My failed but enlightening experiment going the "less is more" route, aka "The Caveman Routine"

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/327898-a-minimalist-approach-for-oily-skin/

 

 

 


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Posted 28 April 2013 - 12:03 PM

Sigh, reading this kinda of discourages me. I am one of the ones that have tried a diet, lost weight, and watch the acne not budge with diet. I don't know what I was doing wrong. No GI, no dairy. It seems really hard to find something that you are intolerant. Also, there are numerous other factors according to this board and the people in here, like parasites, candida, sleep stress....like how am I supposed to avoid that in my field? Maybe I am stuck with medicine that can harm my body....



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Posted 28 April 2013 - 01:25 PM

I started eating candy and quit restricting stuff like white rice and my skin is now the clearest it's been in probably 10 years. The regimen helped a lot, but I didn't get this total clarity and improved skin tone until the week I added grains back into my diet. So crazy. You can think you're doing something right for years but are actually making yourself worse. My body obviously needed grains for some reason. Diet is something that should always be changing, and that is something that these strict, locked-down diets don't allow for.


Current Skin-Care Regimen (A work in progress):

 

Morning:

Gentle wash with DKR cleanser

Benzoyl Peroxide 2.5% (Following Dan's Regimen)

DKR Lotion + A squirt of Argan or Grapeseed oil (The  lotion alone wasn't hydrating enough)

Skin 79 Korean BB Cream (excellent stuff)

 

Evening:

Gentle Wash with DKR Cleanser

Benzoyl Peroxide 2.5% (Following Dan's Regimen)

DKR Lotion + A squirt of Argan or Grapeseed oil

 


#37 Quetzlcoatl

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 01:53 PM

Sigh, reading this kinda of discourages me. I am one of the ones that have tried a diet, lost weight, and watch the acne not budge with diet. I don't know what I was doing wrong. No GI, no dairy. It seems really hard to find something that you are intolerant. Also, there are numerous other factors according to this board and the people in here, like parasites, candida, sleep stress....like how am I supposed to avoid that in my field? Maybe I am stuck with medicine that can harm my body....

 

It's more than just diet and lifestyle. Damage done over the course of years, sometimes decades, can't be undone retrospectively only by removing the offending agent. Sometimes we need medicine to heal. Also, you're right to say that the causes are numerous - and some of those causes are not internal; as in, it could be a topical infection.



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Posted 28 April 2013 - 01:56 PM

I started eating candy and quit restricting stuff like white rice and my skin is now the clearest it's been in probably 10 years. The regimen helped a lot, but I didn't get this total clarity and improved skin tone until the week I added grains back into my diet. So crazy. You can think you're doing something right for years but are actually making yourself worse. My body obviously needed grains for some reason. Diet is something that should always be changing, and that is something that these strict, locked-down diets don't allow for.


What are these 'strict, locked-down diets?'
Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 03:19 PM

80-10-10, Raw, Specific Carb Diet, anti Candida, anti sugar, all meat, vegan, etc. Just any strict diet.


Current Skin-Care Regimen (A work in progress):

 

Morning:

Gentle wash with DKR cleanser

Benzoyl Peroxide 2.5% (Following Dan's Regimen)

DKR Lotion + A squirt of Argan or Grapeseed oil (The  lotion alone wasn't hydrating enough)

Skin 79 Korean BB Cream (excellent stuff)

 

Evening:

Gentle Wash with DKR Cleanser

Benzoyl Peroxide 2.5% (Following Dan's Regimen)

DKR Lotion + A squirt of Argan or Grapeseed oil

 


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Posted 28 April 2013 - 11:14 PM


Just tibits i'd thought i'd add:
 
Acne in textbooks (atleast for my nursing classes which are used for the whole state) are lacking god awful amounts of information; evidenced based information. It is repeated in my maternity/ pediatric textbook that acne is NOT caused by diet. It is stated many times. However medline plus (evidenced based site) states otherwise, yet future doctors and nurses are being preached "not diet related".instead is related to puberty related to increase in hormones and bad hygiene practices.
 
Anyone on this site who has done research knows there are more causes and more exceptions to the rule. However do not reticule doctors and nurses because this is what they are taught.
 
So my advice is be your own advocate. Investigate your own causes, aggreviating factors, and what works and what doesnt. In the meantime be supportive of each other.
   


Obviously it is what they are taught. That is the problem. But also that they don't seem to be doing any reading on their own to keep up with research. The peer reviewed journals in which these studies are found are published for them to read.

And yes, you must be your owner advocate. Acne isn't the only condition for which doctors are indoctrinated with bad info. And medicine isn't the only industry with this problem. I'll now refrain from ranting about how incredibly bad the builder and architects are, building things completely wrong for the climate.

 

Depends on the docs and the hospitals. Nursing practices by evidence based practice which is basically research says:" ". Not all hospitals employ this practice, especially those that are in smaller communities and even then there is only 1-2 hospitals in my state that are actually magnet hospitals that practice EBP. If thats nurses, what of the docs? Instead most falll back on standard procedure, standard practices "lets treat the symptoms" bandaid approach. Looking back on it now spending $$$ to go to a specialist 3 years ago was a waste compared to the regular doc that i go to now; and atleast hes not a %^&*(

 

So until then we carry on.

 

Damage as quoted by coat, doesn't actually need years, more like months. I am a great example of my self.. to my self lol. I stopped running and eatting the way i was to support my running and now not even 6 months later my body is telling me whats up and it aint good. At least for me im not im teens where hormonal fluctuations are a roller coaster.

 

Yea the whole thing is perpetually bad.


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