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#41 Binga

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 11:24 PM

Whatever you do stay away from lasers. It makes the skin fragile and the results are temporary. If you breakout later you will end up with more scars.  To me subcision with a filler followed by needling is the way to go. Takes time though.



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Posted 26 August 2013 - 04:29 AM

Hi There,
I bought the Dr Roller 3 Line, 1.5mm Derma roller and the Titanium Needle Derma stamp 1.5mm from Ebay. I just purchased a new Derma stamp from Ebay * Moderator Edit, No Links Allowed, review the board rules.* I would recommend that you do the treatments every 4-6 weeks as it gives the skin time to heal. My regime is as follows:
  • Wash and dry the area to be treated
  • Apply numbing cream for around 45 mins and wipe clean after
  • Derma Roll/stamp skin, following instructions
  • Clean area with Distilled witch hazel
  • Use a collagen boosting cream (I use Terproline as suggested by another user from here). 
I hope this helps. I totally agree with your comments about saliva, It is a natural healer and worth looking into. I will look at the links you sent, thanks for that. I will try anything that helps, this site is great as we can all help each other. Its good genuine advice, we are all in the same boat and its better to hear from real people that have tried and tested these treatments. But sometimes some people have different success than others, but it's all worth a try. I haven't tried Fat transfer yet but have thought a lot about it and would like to try. I hear Juvederm is good, but think our own fat may react better as it's our own and is less likely to be rejected. Are you in the UK? I am in the UK. I would like to chat with you some more, would be good to discuss our ideas. 

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 04:32 AM

Re salive you have first to begin with good quality of salive meaning no dental metals and clean diet.

I am thinking immediatley about how cats wash with their own saliva themselves.



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Posted 30 August 2013 - 08:34 AM

Hi There,
I bought the Dr Roller 3 Line, 1.5mm Derma roller and the Titanium Needle Derma stamp 1.5mm from Ebay. I just purchased a new Derma stamp from Ebay * Moderator Edit, No Links Allowed, review the board rules.* I would recommend that you do the treatments every 4-6 weeks as it gives the skin time to heal. My regime is as follows:

  • Wash and dry the area to be treated
  • Apply numbing cream for around 45 mins and wipe clean after
  • Derma Roll/stamp skin, following instructions
  • Clean area with Distilled witch hazel
  • Use a collagen boosting cream (I use Terproline as suggested by another user from here). 
I hope this helps. I totally agree with your comments about saliva, It is a natural healer and worth looking into. I will look at the links you sent, thanks for that. I will try anything that helps, this site is great as we can all help each other. Its good genuine advice, we are all in the same boat and its better to hear from real people that have tried and tested these treatments. But sometimes some people have different success than others, but it's all worth a try. I haven't tried Fat transfer yet but have thought a lot about it and would like to try. I hear Juvederm is good, but think our own fat may react better as it's our own and is less likely to be rejected. Are you in the UK? I am in the UK. I would like to chat with you some more, would be good to discuss our ideas. 

I appreciate your response, I'm going to buy a derma roller soon. Can't wait to start rolling, what is your downtime like afterwards? Or was there any?If i used make up would that hide it? I got the idea of saliva, because many people have used it. Also, whenever I cry it starts healing my face, it's so weird actually. But there is so much LOGIC behind it that I could go on all day and explain why. I feel your emotions during healing are more important than anything. it's complicated..and no i don't live in the uk =/ but it's awesome having a friend there (you) you should check out my other thread i have recently started it contains good information and i hope it continues to grow



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Posted 30 August 2013 - 03:35 PM

 

Hi There,
I bought the Dr Roller 3 Line, 1.5mm Derma roller and the Titanium Needle Derma stamp 1.5mm from Ebay. I just purchased a new Derma stamp from Ebay * Moderator Edit, No Links Allowed, review the board rules.* I would recommend that you do the treatments every 4-6 weeks as it gives the skin time to heal. My regime is as follows:

  • Wash and dry the area to be treated
  • Apply numbing cream for around 45 mins and wipe clean after
  • Derma Roll/stamp skin, following instructions
  • Clean area with Distilled witch hazel
  • Use a collagen boosting cream (I use Terproline as suggested by another user from here). 
I hope this helps. I totally agree with your comments about saliva, It is a natural healer and worth looking into. I will look at the links you sent, thanks for that. I will try anything that helps, this site is great as we can all help each other. Its good genuine advice, we are all in the same boat and its better to hear from real people that have tried and tested these treatments. But sometimes some people have different success than others, but it's all worth a try. I haven't tried Fat transfer yet but have thought a lot about it and would like to try. I hear Juvederm is good, but think our own fat may react better as it's our own and is less likely to be rejected. Are you in the UK? I am in the UK. I would like to chat with you some more, would be good to discuss our ideas. 

I appreciate your response, I'm going to buy a derma roller soon. Can't wait to start rolling, what is your downtime like afterwards? Or was there any?If i used make up would that hide it? I got the idea of saliva, because many people have used it. Also, whenever I cry it starts healing my face, it's so weird actually. But there is so much LOGIC behind it that I could go on all day and explain why. I feel your emotions during healing are more important than anything. it's complicated..and no i don't live in the uk =/ but it's awesome having a friend there (you) you should check out my other thread i have recently started it contains good information and i hope it continues to grow

Not much down time really, around a day of redness but it all depends on your skin type. I usually do my treatments on a Friday night so i have the weekend to let my skin heal and breath. We are now Derma rolling friends lol. Are u in the UK? If so we can maybe talk over the phone if you want about this stuff



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Posted 03 October 2013 - 11:55 AM

Sorry it took so long to respond, I have had quite  a rough month. Things are finally starting to get better though. If you want I can send you my phone number in a pm



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Posted 03 October 2013 - 12:50 PM

Okay so I apologize as this is going to be long! I'm covering everything I've read on these boards and some new stuff that I have read about science that relates to scar tissue.

Okay, first off I had subcision done back in June, my improvement was not that much, but at the same time I was thinking very negatively about the whole process, so I kind of blame myself if that makes sense?

There is science that backs a lot of this up, it's not necessarily theories either.

Right now, I am looking into having fat injections , fat transfer , blood injections , or dermal grafts. I am wanting people to post their experiences with these, and their percentage of improvement. I want to also mention that I needled one scar on my forehead back in June (only half of it) and it filled it like 100% on that half. It's the weirdest thing, but I am having trouble getting the other side to fill in. It is a linear scar. This website and the internet is packed full of information to get rid of scars, almost to the point where they are not noticeable anymore.

I would reference what I'm about to write, but you will probably have to look it up for yourself, because I know you can't post websites on here.

I have seen numerous posts whether it be on other sites or this one, where fat transfers or fat injections & dermal grafts have significantly improved or gotten rid of scars. There is logic behind this, scientists have recently discovered (in July it was posted) a stem cell in liposuctioned fat  that has the ability to adapt to whatever part of the body you inject it in.

"The stem cells discovered in adipose, or fat tissue, are considered "pluripotent," meaning they can be differentiated into essentially any type of body cell, making them potentially useful for a variety of medical uses. Researchers believe that pluripotent stem cells will be used to treat neurological disorders such as Parkinson's and Alzheimer's Diseases.

Until the most recent discovery, made by University of California—Los Angeles researcher Gregorio Chazenbalk and described in the journal PLOS ONE, the two main types of pluripotent stem cells were embryonic and induced pluripotent cells, which are made by re-engineering skin cells. Several years ago, scientists discovered stem cells in fat tissue that could not be differentiated into other types of cells. According to Chazenbalk, the newly-discovered pluripotent stem cells that exist in fat tissue are known as Muse-AT cells and are particularly stress-resistant, meaning they would be useful for treating traumatic injuries.

This population of cells lies dormant in the fat tissue until it is subjected to very harsh conditions. These cells can survive in conditions in which usually only cancer cells can live," he says. "When you have an injury, it's a harsh environment for cells – there is inflammation and apoptosis (mass cellular death). Anything you put there has a low chance of survival. But these cells are already adapted to the stress, and when you put them in damaged tissue, they can survive at high rates.

Unlike embryonic and induced pluripotent stem cells, Muse-AT cells show no evidence of developing teratoma, a cancer-like situation where stem cells rapidly divide until a tumor develops. The development of teratoma has made the clinical application of embryonic stem cell therapies slower than many scientists would like.

"This is a huge advantage because you don't have to re-engineer them to not produce teratomas," he says. "These cells are likely to play a critical role for tissue regeneration in the event of acute injury.""

 

Okay so this would explain why there is clinical evidence that shows  when people get fat injections/or fat transfers the quality of skin texture improves too. There is also another thread I read on here about blood injections & fat transfers. It also relates to why subcision works for some people . Anyway hopefully this gives some people some home. Stem cells really are the future...well NOW. I am looking for people that have had positive experiences with fat transfer, dermal grafts, fat injections  etc. Thanks. Please forgive me I'm not an organized person, my mind is a little over active...lol

 

 

I had dermal grafts.  It worked well. On some scars it worked better than others.  The best areas, probably a 90%+ improvement, on the worst maybe 60%.  It's not a miracle treatment though, if you think it will restore your skin back to how it looked before you even had acne, you'll probably be disappointed.



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Posted 03 October 2013 - 01:15 PM

Okay so I apologize as this is going to be long! I'm covering everything I've read on these boards and some new stuff that I have read about science that relates to scar tissue.

Okay, first off I had subcision done back in June, my improvement was not that much, but at the same time I was thinking very negatively about the whole process, so I kind of blame myself if that makes sense?

There is science that backs a lot of this up, it's not necessarily theories either.

Right now, I am looking into having fat injections , fat transfer , blood injections , or dermal grafts. I am wanting people to post their experiences with these, and their percentage of improvement. I want to also mention that I needled one scar on my forehead back in June (only half of it) and it filled it like 100% on that half. It's the weirdest thing, but I am having trouble getting the other side to fill in. It is a linear scar. This website and the internet is packed full of information to get rid of scars, almost to the point where they are not noticeable anymore.

I would reference what I'm about to write, but you will probably have to look it up for yourself, because I know you can't post websites on here.

I have seen numerous posts whether it be on other sites or this one, where fat transfers or fat injections & dermal grafts have significantly improved or gotten rid of scars. There is logic behind this, scientists have recently discovered (in July it was posted) a stem cell in liposuctioned fat  that has the ability to adapt to whatever part of the body you inject it in.

"The stem cells discovered in adipose, or fat tissue, are considered "pluripotent," meaning they can be differentiated into essentially any type of body cell, making them potentially useful for a variety of medical uses. Researchers believe that pluripotent stem cells will be used to treat neurological disorders such as Parkinson's and Alzheimer's Diseases.

Until the most recent discovery, made by University of California—Los Angeles researcher Gregorio Chazenbalk and described in the journal PLOS ONE, the two main types of pluripotent stem cells were embryonic and induced pluripotent cells, which are made by re-engineering skin cells. Several years ago, scientists discovered stem cells in fat tissue that could not be differentiated into other types of cells. According to Chazenbalk, the newly-discovered pluripotent stem cells that exist in fat tissue are known as Muse-AT cells and are particularly stress-resistant, meaning they would be useful for treating traumatic injuries.

This population of cells lies dormant in the fat tissue until it is subjected to very harsh conditions. These cells can survive in conditions in which usually only cancer cells can live," he says. "When you have an injury, it's a harsh environment for cells – there is inflammation and apoptosis (mass cellular death). Anything you put there has a low chance of survival. But these cells are already adapted to the stress, and when you put them in damaged tissue, they can survive at high rates.

Unlike embryonic and induced pluripotent stem cells, Muse-AT cells show no evidence of developing teratoma, a cancer-like situation where stem cells rapidly divide until a tumor develops. The development of teratoma has made the clinical application of embryonic stem cell therapies slower than many scientists would like.

"This is a huge advantage because you don't have to re-engineer them to not produce teratomas," he says. "These cells are likely to play a critical role for tissue regeneration in the event of acute injury.""

 

Okay so this would explain why there is clinical evidence that shows  when people get fat injections/or fat transfers the quality of skin texture improves too. There is also another thread I read on here about blood injections & fat transfers. It also relates to why subcision works for some people . Anyway hopefully this gives some people some home. Stem cells really are the future...well NOW. I am looking for people that have had positive experiences with fat transfer, dermal grafts, fat injections  etc. Thanks. Please forgive me I'm not an organized person, my mind is a little over active...lol

 

 

I had dermal grafts.  It worked well. On some scars it worked better than others.  The best areas, probably a 90%+ improvement, on the worst maybe 60%.  It's not a miracle treatment though, if you think it will restore your skin back to how it looked before you even had acne, you'll probably be disappointed.

Even 60% is very significant though!! I'm just curious, can you tell based on the colour of skin or texture where the grafts are? Or do they blend in?



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Posted 03 October 2013 - 01:22 PM

 

Okay so I apologize as this is going to be long! I'm covering everything I've read on these boards and some new stuff that I have read about science that relates to scar tissue.

Okay, first off I had subcision done back in June, my improvement was not that much, but at the same time I was thinking very negatively about the whole process, so I kind of blame myself if that makes sense?

There is science that backs a lot of this up, it's not necessarily theories either.

Right now, I am looking into having fat injections , fat transfer , blood injections , or dermal grafts. I am wanting people to post their experiences with these, and their percentage of improvement. I want to also mention that I needled one scar on my forehead back in June (only half of it) and it filled it like 100% on that half. It's the weirdest thing, but I am having trouble getting the other side to fill in. It is a linear scar. This website and the internet is packed full of information to get rid of scars, almost to the point where they are not noticeable anymore.

I would reference what I'm about to write, but you will probably have to look it up for yourself, because I know you can't post websites on here.

I have seen numerous posts whether it be on other sites or this one, where fat transfers or fat injections & dermal grafts have significantly improved or gotten rid of scars. There is logic behind this, scientists have recently discovered (in July it was posted) a stem cell in liposuctioned fat  that has the ability to adapt to whatever part of the body you inject it in.

"The stem cells discovered in adipose, or fat tissue, are considered "pluripotent," meaning they can be differentiated into essentially any type of body cell, making them potentially useful for a variety of medical uses. Researchers believe that pluripotent stem cells will be used to treat neurological disorders such as Parkinson's and Alzheimer's Diseases.

Until the most recent discovery, made by University of California—Los Angeles researcher Gregorio Chazenbalk and described in the journal PLOS ONE, the two main types of pluripotent stem cells were embryonic and induced pluripotent cells, which are made by re-engineering skin cells. Several years ago, scientists discovered stem cells in fat tissue that could not be differentiated into other types of cells. According to Chazenbalk, the newly-discovered pluripotent stem cells that exist in fat tissue are known as Muse-AT cells and are particularly stress-resistant, meaning they would be useful for treating traumatic injuries.

This population of cells lies dormant in the fat tissue until it is subjected to very harsh conditions. These cells can survive in conditions in which usually only cancer cells can live," he says. "When you have an injury, it's a harsh environment for cells – there is inflammation and apoptosis (mass cellular death). Anything you put there has a low chance of survival. But these cells are already adapted to the stress, and when you put them in damaged tissue, they can survive at high rates.

Unlike embryonic and induced pluripotent stem cells, Muse-AT cells show no evidence of developing teratoma, a cancer-like situation where stem cells rapidly divide until a tumor develops. The development of teratoma has made the clinical application of embryonic stem cell therapies slower than many scientists would like.

"This is a huge advantage because you don't have to re-engineer them to not produce teratomas," he says. "These cells are likely to play a critical role for tissue regeneration in the event of acute injury.""

 

Okay so this would explain why there is clinical evidence that shows  when people get fat injections/or fat transfers the quality of skin texture improves too. There is also another thread I read on here about blood injections & fat transfers. It also relates to why subcision works for some people . Anyway hopefully this gives some people some home. Stem cells really are the future...well NOW. I am looking for people that have had positive experiences with fat transfer, dermal grafts, fat injections  etc. Thanks. Please forgive me I'm not an organized person, my mind is a little over active...lol

 

 

I had dermal grafts.  It worked well. On some scars it worked better than others.  The best areas, probably a 90%+ improvement, on the worst maybe 60%.  It's not a miracle treatment though, if you think it will restore your skin back to how it looked before you even had acne, you'll probably be disappointed.

Even 60% is very significant though!! I'm just curious, can you tell based on the colour of skin or texture where the grafts are? Or do they blend in?

 

They blend in eventually, but it takes some time though.  

 

Here's the thing about 60% or even 90% improvement, though.  I was initially very happy with the improvement, because before I had seen no improvement with past treatments.  But then, you become used to the way your skin looks and start finding more imperfections and start wanting more.  Don't get me wrong.  If I look at how my scarring looked before treatments and how it looks now, there is a visible difference, but I think our minds are just trained to see what's wrong.   At least that is the way it is for me.  


Edited by Datura, 03 October 2013 - 01:31 PM.


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Posted 04 October 2013 - 02:05 PM

 

 

Hi There,
I bought the Dr Roller 3 Line, 1.5mm Derma roller and the Titanium Needle Derma stamp 1.5mm from Ebay. I just purchased a new Derma stamp from Ebay * Moderator Edit, No Links Allowed, review the board rules.* I would recommend that you do the treatments every 4-6 weeks as it gives the skin time to heal. My regime is as follows:

  • Wash and dry the area to be treated
  • Apply numbing cream for around 45 mins and wipe clean after
  • Derma Roll/stamp skin, following instructions
  • Clean area with Distilled witch hazel
  • Use a collagen boosting cream (I use Terproline as suggested by another user from here). 
I hope this helps. I totally agree with your comments about saliva, It is a natural healer and worth looking into. I will look at the links you sent, thanks for that. I will try anything that helps, this site is great as we can all help each other. Its good genuine advice, we are all in the same boat and its better to hear from real people that have tried and tested these treatments. But sometimes some people have different success than others, but it's all worth a try. I haven't tried Fat transfer yet but have thought a lot about it and would like to try. I hear Juvederm is good, but think our own fat may react better as it's our own and is less likely to be rejected. Are you in the UK? I am in the UK. I would like to chat with you some more, would be good to discuss our ideas. 

I appreciate your response, I'm going to buy a derma roller soon. Can't wait to start rolling, what is your downtime like afterwards? Or was there any?If i used make up would that hide it? I got the idea of saliva, because many people have used it. Also, whenever I cry it starts healing my face, it's so weird actually. But there is so much LOGIC behind it that I could go on all day and explain why. I feel your emotions during healing are more important than anything. it's complicated..and no i don't live in the uk =/ but it's awesome having a friend there (you) you should check out my other thread i have recently started it contains good information and i hope it continues to grow

Not much down time really, around a day of redness but it all depends on your skin type. I usually do my treatments on a Friday night so i have the weekend to let my skin heal and breath. We are now Derma rolling friends lol. Are u in the UK? If so we can maybe talk over the phone if you want about this stuff

good to know people are from the UK! 

 

So where did you get your derma stamp from? this in conjunction with a baiden mitten seems to be what you advocate? i ACTUALLY have a baiden mitten btw! 

 

I am tempted to use a derma stamp though I have got shallow scaring from squeezing black heads out of my skin situated around my nose and the frontal cheek area (so when you look straight ahead) and unfortunately picking at an outbreak over a year ago that was caused from using emu oil... which ironically i was using to try and heal my skin... great :(

 

anyway the texture, tone and look of my skin is very patchy, red, pitted and it upsets me quite a bit, especially as i am a guy so cant just cover it with make up...

 

what does distilled witch hazel do? and where would you buy it? have you or anyone reading this used rose water before?

 

sorry for all the questions, its just you guys seem more knowledgable than me on this stuff and I dont know what route to take, thinking of microdermabrasion? 

 

thanks so much for your time


Edited by .JacktheLad., 04 October 2013 - 02:10 PM.


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Posted 05 October 2013 - 02:54 PM

 

 

 

Hi There,
I bought the Dr Roller 3 Line, 1.5mm Derma roller and the Titanium Needle Derma stamp 1.5mm from Ebay. I just purchased a new Derma stamp from Ebay * Moderator Edit, No Links Allowed, review the board rules.* I would recommend that you do the treatments every 4-6 weeks as it gives the skin time to heal. My regime is as follows:

  • Wash and dry the area to be treated
  • Apply numbing cream for around 45 mins and wipe clean after
  • Derma Roll/stamp skin, following instructions
  • Clean area with Distilled witch hazel
  • Use a collagen boosting cream (I use Terproline as suggested by another user from here). 
I hope this helps. I totally agree with your comments about saliva, It is a natural healer and worth looking into. I will look at the links you sent, thanks for that. I will try anything that helps, this site is great as we can all help each other. Its good genuine advice, we are all in the same boat and its better to hear from real people that have tried and tested these treatments. But sometimes some people have different success than others, but it's all worth a try. I haven't tried Fat transfer yet but have thought a lot about it and would like to try. I hear Juvederm is good, but think our own fat may react better as it's our own and is less likely to be rejected. Are you in the UK? I am in the UK. I would like to chat with you some more, would be good to discuss our ideas. 

I appreciate your response, I'm going to buy a derma roller soon. Can't wait to start rolling, what is your downtime like afterwards? Or was there any?If i used make up would that hide it? I got the idea of saliva, because many people have used it. Also, whenever I cry it starts healing my face, it's so weird actually. But there is so much LOGIC behind it that I could go on all day and explain why. I feel your emotions during healing are more important than anything. it's complicated..and no i don't live in the uk =/ but it's awesome having a friend there (you) you should check out my other thread i have recently started it contains good information and i hope it continues to grow

Not much down time really, around a day of redness but it all depends on your skin type. I usually do my treatments on a Friday night so i have the weekend to let my skin heal and breath. We are now Derma rolling friends lol. Are u in the UK? If so we can maybe talk over the phone if you want about this stuff

good to know people are from the UK! 

 

So where did you get your derma stamp from? this in conjunction with a baiden mitten seems to be what you advocate? i ACTUALLY have a baiden mitten btw! 

 

I am tempted to use a derma stamp though I have got shallow scaring from squeezing black heads out of my skin situated around my nose and the frontal cheek area (so when you look straight ahead) and unfortunately picking at an outbreak over a year ago that was caused from using emu oil... which ironically i was using to try and heal my skin... great sad.png

 

anyway the texture, tone and look of my skin is very patchy, red, pitted and it upsets me quite a bit, especially as i am a guy so cant just cover it with make up...

 

what does distilled witch hazel do? and where would you buy it? have you or anyone reading this used rose water before?

 

sorry for all the questions, its just you guys seem more knowledgable than me on this stuff and I dont know what route to take, thinking of microdermabrasion

 

thanks so much for your time

Hi There,

I got my Derma stamp from EBAY: (New Titanium Needle Derma stamp Microneedle ) It cost £9.95. 

Witch Hazel cleans and cools the skin after using the Derma roller/stamp. I use it but you don't have to follow what I do, It was suggested to me so I follow that regime now.  You can buy from any chemist. 

I also use Rose water after using the Baiden mitten, I dab onto my skin which helps soothe the skin, a bit like witch hazel, you can pick up quite cheaply from Asian supermarkets. 

I try out different treatments, but they are not miracle cures! Its all about trial and error. 

Best of luck



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Posted 05 October 2013 - 04:10 PM

 

 

 

 

Hi There,
I bought the Dr Roller 3 Line, 1.5mm Derma roller and the Titanium Needle Derma stamp 1.5mm from Ebay. I just purchased a new Derma stamp from Ebay * Moderator Edit, No Links Allowed, review the board rules.* I would recommend that you do the treatments every 4-6 weeks as it gives the skin time to heal. My regime is as follows:

  • Wash and dry the area to be treated
  • Apply numbing cream for around 45 mins and wipe clean after
  • Derma Roll/stamp skin, following instructions
  • Clean area with Distilled witch hazel
  • Use a collagen boosting cream (I use Terproline as suggested by another user from here). 
I hope this helps. I totally agree with your comments about saliva, It is a natural healer and worth looking into. I will look at the links you sent, thanks for that. I will try anything that helps, this site is great as we can all help each other. Its good genuine advice, we are all in the same boat and its better to hear from real people that have tried and tested these treatments. But sometimes some people have different success than others, but it's all worth a try. I haven't tried Fat transfer yet but have thought a lot about it and would like to try. I hear Juvederm is good, but think our own fat may react better as it's our own and is less likely to be rejected. Are you in the UK? I am in the UK. I would like to chat with you some more, would be good to discuss our ideas. 

I appreciate your response, I'm going to buy a derma roller soon. Can't wait to start rolling, what is your downtime like afterwards? Or was there any?If i used make up would that hide it? I got the idea of saliva, because many people have used it. Also, whenever I cry it starts healing my face, it's so weird actually. But there is so much LOGIC behind it that I could go on all day and explain why. I feel your emotions during healing are more important than anything. it's complicated..and no i don't live in the uk =/ but it's awesome having a friend there (you) you should check out my other thread i have recently started it contains good information and i hope it continues to grow

Not much down time really, around a day of redness but it all depends on your skin type. I usually do my treatments on a Friday night so i have the weekend to let my skin heal and breath. We are now Derma rolling friends lol. Are u in the UK? If so we can maybe talk over the phone if you want about this stuff

good to know people are from the UK! 

 

So where did you get your derma stamp from? this in conjunction with a baiden mitten seems to be what you advocate? i ACTUALLY have a baiden mitten btw! 

 

I am tempted to use a derma stamp though I have got shallow scaring from squeezing black heads out of my skin situated around my nose and the frontal cheek area (so when you look straight ahead) and unfortunately picking at an outbreak over a year ago that was caused from using emu oil... which ironically i was using to try and heal my skin... great sad.png

 

anyway the texture, tone and look of my skin is very patchy, red, pitted and it upsets me quite a bit, especially as i am a guy so cant just cover it with make up...

 

what does distilled witch hazel do? and where would you buy it? have you or anyone reading this used rose water before?

 

sorry for all the questions, its just you guys seem more knowledgable than me on this stuff and I dont know what route to take, thinking of microdermabrasion? 

 

thanks so much for your time

Hi There,

I got my Derma stamp from EBAY: (New Titanium Needle Derma stamp Microneedle ) It cost £9.95. 

Witch Hazel cleans and cools the skin after using the Derma roller/stamp. I use it but you don't have to follow what I do, It was suggested to me so I follow that regime now.  You can buy from any chemist. 

I also use Rose water after using the Baiden mitten, I dab onto my skin which helps soothe the skin, a bit like witch hazel, you can pick up quite cheaply from Asian supermarkets. 

I try out different treatments, but they are not miracle cures! Its all about trial and error. 

Best of luck

thanks for the reply. if you could link me in a private message the exact seller of the dermastamp, id appreciate it. 

 

seems like good advice, rosewater would be a good addition i think to my regime. who recommended you your regime? 



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 07:28 AM

Sep. 24, 2013 — Millions of people with scars suffer from pain, discomfort, and inability to perform regular activities. Some may have to revert to addicting pain medicine to get rid of their ailments. Now, and with a new methodology, such problems can be treated successfully. A technique using injection of the patient's own fat cells is an effective treatment for hard, contracted scars resulting from burns or other causes, reports a study in the September issue of The Journal of Craniofacial Surgery, edited by Mutaz B. Habal, MD, FRCSC, and published by Lippincott Williams & Wilkins, a part of Wolters Kluwer Health.


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Posted 15 October 2013 - 07:43 AM

Datura, I'm thinking about having dermal grafts done and then a fat transfer to sagging, rolling type scars. I want to have dermal grafts done on boxcar and maybe a few ice picks. I'm curious to know how much it generally costs to receive dermal grafts. I have a doctor here in Indy that does it, but I am not sure how much skill is required behind it. From what I read, it seems like a relatively simple procedure. I don't want to get a lot of them done maybe like 16 at most? How is the skin afterwards? I read somewhere that the skin gets an odd texture if it is dry. I'm not too worried about that though, because I would rather have dry skin than a crater. I'm really impressed with the 90%+ improvement. That's fantastic & I'm genuinely happy for you. Sorry for all of the questions. Hope you can get back to me soon. Thanks so much. 



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 11:13 PM

Some doctors use subcision and then use fat transfer as a filler.



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Posted 19 October 2013 - 11:21 AM

I have some questions about dermal grafts, if anyone could please answer.

I know they work best in small places and are more likely to take.

I wanted to know, do they look more normal than an acne scar?

I want to get this done, combined with a fat transfer to areas that just have tissue loss (when stretched they disappear.)

I have read mixed reviews on dermal grafts I am also confused are punch grafts and dermal grafts the same thing? What's the difference between them?

I'm going to try to go get dermal grafts done as soon as I get the money, but I'm hoping it's not too much.

 

Questions about dermal grafts

Do they look normal once the healing process is over?

How long is the healing process?

How long should you let the area avoid sun?

What methods, if any are used to "blend" the treated area. (Lasers, dermarolling, or just waiting until time passes)

Do the areas treated eventually gain pigment. For example, will they always remain lighter/darker than the surrounding skin?

Thanks so much please answer.



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Posted 19 November 2013 - 01:26 AM

I have some questions about dermal grafts, if anyone could please answer.

I know they work best in small places and are more likely to take.

I wanted to know, do they look more normal than an acne scar?

I want to get this done, combined with a fat transfer to areas that just have tissue loss (when stretched they disappear.)

I have read mixed reviews on dermal grafts I am also confused are punch grafts and dermal grafts the same thing? What's the difference between them?

I'm going to try to go get dermal grafts done as soon as I get the money, but I'm hoping it's not too much.

 

Questions about dermal grafts

Do they look normal once the healing process is over?

How long is the healing process?

How long should you let the area avoid sun?

What methods, if any are used to "blend" the treated area. (Lasers, dermarolling, or just waiting until time passes)

Do the areas treated eventually gain pigment. For example, will they always remain lighter/darker than the surrounding skin?

Thanks so much please answer.

dermal graft & punch graft is two different thing, dermal graft is best to treat rolling scars and punch graft treat ice picks & boxcar scars.

I found this before & after pictures:

 

dermal graft:

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punch graft:

 

fat transfer for fat lost:

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Different scars treat with different surgery. After dermal / punch graft, 3-5 session of spot dermabrasion is required to smooth the graft / surface. Hope this helpful to you. =)






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