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If You Want To Cure Your Acne All Bs Aside

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Shortly - promoting healthy eating is the best thing to do, but promoting elimination of foods in order to cure acne - targets the wrong spot and sends the wrong message. People need the focus on the positive - try to fight FOR good health, and not AGAINST acne.

An 'acne diet' and a truly healthy diet is actually the same thing. But by truly healthy I do mean that it addresses your personal intolerances and special health issues in addition to being filled with real whole nutrient dense foods, more anti-inflammatory than inflammatory foods in low to moderate glycemic load meals, drinks and snacks.

If you can't do that without obsessing, then don't.

Medication definitely won't help if you're eating something you're allergic to, that's for sure. But avoiding stuff you're allergic to won't cure acne either. In severe cases, it's going to take both at once.

Uh, hello. My acne was severe.


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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How nice for you. Must feel good to be so easily cured.


Current Skin-Care Regimen (A work in progress):

Morning:

Gentle wash with DKR cleanser

Benzoyl Peroxide 2.5% (Following Dan's Regimen)

DKR Lotion + A squirt of Argan or Grapeseed oil (The lotion alone wasn't hydrating enough)

Skin 79 Korean BB Cream (excellent stuff)

Evening:

Gentle Wash with DKR Cleanser

Benzoyl Peroxide 2.5% (Following Dan's Regimen)

DKR Lotion + A squirt of Argan or Grapeseed oil


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How nice for you. Must feel good to be so easily cured.

Well, it took thirty years of dermatologists telling me that diet had nothing to do with acne.

You seem to be going from one extreme attitude to the other.


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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Diet does affect everyone's acne. It sent possible for it not to. Your friends don't get acne because they do not have the genetic traits that make them acne prone.

You are saying everyone?

I have a friend who had completely stopped eating dairy for 6 months!

She don't have acne anymore, because in the end she ended up taking accutane, because the diet with no dairy didn't work a tiny bit for her, it just made her missed all the good joy we can get with food.

I did it, i don't have acne anymore, because ind the end i took accutane, because the dairy shit didn't work.

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Diet does affect everyone's acne. It sent possible for it not to. Your friends don't get acne because they do not have the genetic traits that make them acne prone.

You are saying everyone?

I have a friend who had completely stopped eating dairy for 6 months!

She don't have acne anymore, because in the end she ended up taking accutane, because the diet with no dairy didn't work a tiny bit for her, it just made her missed all the good joy we can get with food.

I did it, i don't have acne anymore, because ind the end i took accutane, because the dairy shit didn't work.

Yes, if affects everyone. It isn't possible for it not to. It's how you get the nutrients your body needs to function. And how you get crap that your body struggles to deal with.

But I fail to understand how your anecdote about dairy is a counter argument. Avoiding dairy or not makes little noticeable difference to my skin as well. So what? Yes, there are numerous ways dairy contributes to factors involved in acne formation. But it isn't the only cause of those factors. And while it is very common to be intolerant of it, but if you aren't, you probably won't notice a big difference.

Is avoiding dairy the only thing you've tried?, or rather knowing someone who tried avoiding dairy? You are basing all your beliefs on that?

And regarding accutane, have you visited the accutane forums? Seen all the 'about to go on accutane for the third/fourth/fifth time" threads?

Nutrients and lifestyle habits for the brain, mood, coping with stress, etc.

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/230714-good-things-for-the-many-factors-that-lead-to-acne/?p=2679680


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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I believe you because I have been on a dairy-free diet for a few weeks and my skin has greatly improved. It has been proven that refined sugars and milk cause acne. Milk still has natural cow hormones in it, even if it is advertised as hormone-free. Eating refined sugars will cause a spike in blood sugar, and as a result androgenic hormones are released- leading to break outs. I either drink almond or coconut milk, and I use organic agave if I want to sweeten something. Agave is low glycemic so it doesn't raise blood sugar. Reducing gluten in your diet may help too.

For dairy/gluten free recipes go there: elanaspantry.com

She has many great recipes and i use them all the time :)

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On a dairy free, low gluten diet

Morning:

Wash face with Diva Stuff Premium Acne Face Wash with Charcoal,Sulfur and B3

After washing face, apply Neutrogena On-The-Spot on T-Zone, and tone cheeks with diluted tea tree oil

Moisturize cheeks with Skin Ceuticals Phyto Corrective Gel

Drink green smoothie (coconut milk, kale, frozen berries)

Take 100mg Doxycycline

Night:

Wash face with Diva Stuff Premium Acne Face Wash with Charcoal,Sulfur and B3

Apply tretinoin cream 0.01% to T-Zone, and tone cheeks with diluted tea tree oil

Moisturize cheeks with Skin Ceuticals Phyto Corrective Gel

Take 100mg Doxycycline


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HMMM..

have you read the first page?

This thread is all about dairy ?

What causes acne : dairy (butter, buttermilk, milk, cheese), nuts, and sugar.

And i live extremely healthy, always did, and still does, but i still had acne.

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HMMM..

have you read the first page?

This thread is all about dairy ?

What causes acne : dairy (butter, buttermilk, milk, cheese), nuts, and sugar.

And i live extremely healthy, always did, and still does, but i still had acne.

Yes. And have you read the conversation we've been having? such as the first post in which you said:

Some people have acne, and you can't cure it without medicine

Your face is spotless, because you are lucky and your acne fade away, not because of your diet.

And then I replied with this:

Diet does affect everyone's acne. It isnt possible for it not to. Your friends don't get acne because they do not have the genetic traits that make them acne prone.

My diet habits kep my acne under control while years of dermatologists and drugs did not. Not even two courses of accutane helped.

See. I said diet. Although dairy probably does affect everyone as well, there's too many things about it for it not to such as how it's insulinemic which screws with hormones, contains hormones involved in acne and a precursor to DHT formation which is a hormone involved in acne. It just that if you aren't intolerant to it, it might not affect you enough that you would notice a difference, especially considering all the other possible diet and lifestyle habits of yours that contribute to the very same hormone issues.


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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I really think cysts and nodules are reactions to some kind of food or other intolerance. Have you tried a methodical elimination diet?

May I ask what that is exactly? Is it extreme elimination? If so, I've only been taking out the gluten, dairy and sugar from my diet, but have replaced most things with raw, uncooked greens. If there is a green that can also causing my cystic acne then no, I haven't eliminated any vegetables yet. I suppose it is possible for me to have cystic acne from gluten, dairy, and/or sugar as well as a vegetable, but I have yet to specifically search that food group. So far, juicing raw vegetables 5-7 times a week has ben the only thing that has helped my acne.


08/20/13: Acne is gone!! Success thread here --->

--------------------

My Regimen: NO Dairy, Sugar, and *most* High GI/GL foods.

My Previous Regimen Here: http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/288705-how-i-cleared-my-acne-after-26-years-try-it/ 
My FAQ's Are Written Here: http://www.acne.org/messageboard/gallery/image/46898-day-one-my-faqs/ 

My Experiences with Dan's Regimen Here:


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I really think cysts and nodules are reactions to some kind of food or other intolerance. Have you tried a methodical elimination diet?

May I ask what that is exactly? Is it extreme elimination? If so, I've only been taking out the gluten, dairy and sugar from my diet, but have replaced most things with raw, uncooked greens. If there is a green that can also causing my cystic acne then no, I haven't eliminated any vegetables yet. I suppose it is possible for me to have cystic acne from gluten, dairy, and/or sugar as well as a vegetable, but I have yet to specifically search that food group. So far, juicing raw vegetables 5-7 times a week has ben the only thing that has helped my acne.

An elimination diet is either following a very hypoallergenic diet for a period during which you will hopefully notice an improvement, then methodically adding foods back in and watch for a reaction. Or methodically avoiding foods one by one or in groups of related foods, such a the citrus that cause me to break out in cysts by the next day.


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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An elimination diet is either following a very hypoallergenic diet for a period during which you will hopefully notice an improvement, then methodically adding foods back in and watch for a reaction. Or methodically avoiding foods one by one or in groups of related foods, such a the citrus that cause me to break out in cysts by the next day.

I haven't read a lot into hypoallergenic diets yet, except that I should start with the common gluten/dairy/sugar allergens and consume as much fresh and raw vegetables as possible. I understand that this isn't exactly ideal, especially with the paleo, southbeach, and "gut" diets having a bit more body to them, but I figured it was a good place to start. My current diet has help considerably, but I've only been about 3 months into it, give or take. I've been juicing a lot longer... about 6 months I think. I just started allowing myself a small meal of something once a week (usually sunday mornings) such as bran flakes or oatmeal cookies, mainly for convenience purposes so that I may sit and talk with my family. These have yet to show any negative effects, but if I need to stop then I most certainly will.

I actually hate oranges and anything citric tasting. The only citric exception was adding lemons to my vegetable juice which I eventually stopped because it was making it too tangy. I was consuming a lot of fruit about 4 months ago, but cut back quite a bit almost 2 months ago. I ate all kinds of berries and exotic fruits I could get my hands on, mostly for their antioxidants and health benefits, but also because I thought it was 'healthy'. Cutting back on them hasn't made too much difference. I also have arm eczema that was violently flaring up for the past few months, but has since subsided quite a bit itself when I stopped eating so many eggs.

There's a lot going on with me... maybe a hypoallergenic diet would be my best bet. Care to spare any helpful links? :3


08/20/13: Acne is gone!! Success thread here --->

--------------------

My Regimen: NO Dairy, Sugar, and *most* High GI/GL foods.

My Previous Regimen Here: http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/288705-how-i-cleared-my-acne-after-26-years-try-it/ 
My FAQ's Are Written Here: http://www.acne.org/messageboard/gallery/image/46898-day-one-my-faqs/ 

My Experiences with Dan's Regimen Here:


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An elimination diet is either following a very hypoallergenic diet for a period during which you will hopefully notice an improvement, then methodically adding foods back in and watch for a reaction. Or methodically avoiding foods one by one or in groups of related foods, such a the citrus that cause me to break out in cysts by the next day.

I haven't read a lot into hypoallergenic diets yet, except that I should start with the common gluten/dairy/sugar allergens and consume as much fresh and raw vegetables as possible. I understand that this isn't exactly ideal, especially with the paleo, southbeach, and "gut" diets having a bit more body to them, but I figured it was a good place to start. My current diet has help considerably, but I've only been about 3 months into it, give or take. I've been juicing a lot longer... about 6 months I think. I just started allowing myself a small meal of something once a week (usually sunday mornings) such as bran flakes or oatmeal cookies, mainly for convenience purposes so that I may sit and talk with my family. These have yet to show any negative effects, but if I need to stop then I most certainly will.

I actually hate oranges and anything citric tasting. The only citric exception was adding lemons to my vegetable juice which I eventually stopped because it was making it too tangy. I was consuming a lot of fruit about 4 months ago, but cut back quite a bit almost 2 months ago. I ate all kinds of berries and exotic fruits I could get my hands on, mostly for their antioxidants and health benefits, but also because I thought it was 'healthy'. Cutting back on them hasn't made too much difference. I also have arm eczema that was violently flaring up for the past few months, but has since subsided quite a bit itself when I stopped eating so many eggs.

There's a lot going on with me... maybe a hypoallergenic diet would be my best bet. Care to spare any helpful links? :3

See the section on food intolerances in the Good Things thread. There's a link to a thread with info on delayed inflammatory responses, the anti bodies involved, and the most hypo allergenic foods.

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Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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