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Acne Is Not Caused By Diet

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Yes but I was only driven to insanity to the point of eating disorder because of the fact that a more balanced, complex nutrient rich diet didn't help my acne. I'm not saying food hasn't helped my body at all, but my skin just seems to progressively get worse as I go on. Like I'm beating back a monster that will never stop.


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Benzoyl Peroxide 2.5% (Following Dan's Regimen)

DKR Lotion + A squirt of Argan or Grapeseed oil (The lotion alone wasn't hydrating enough)

Skin 79 Korean BB Cream (excellent stuff)

Evening:

Gentle Wash with DKR Cleanser

Benzoyl Peroxide 2.5% (Following Dan's Regimen)

DKR Lotion + A squirt of Argan or Grapeseed oil


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Some people suffer allergic-like reactions to very specific food groups. This might manifest itself as cystic acne in those individuals. Dairy, citrus, and gluten come to mind.

Others like myself, have zero reaction to food, but horrible reactions to the body's post orgasm processes. Avoid/limiting orgasms clears me 100%. Everyone is different when it comes to their specific trigger.

Pretending to understand why these things occur is only useful as a hobby. For the rest of us, we'll take the practical approach, stick with what works, and get on with our lives. If diet works for you, fantastic. If not, figure something else out or learn to deal with it.

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Yes but I was only driven to insanity to the point of eating disorder because of the fact that a more balanced, complex nutrient rich diet didn't help my acne. I'm not saying food hasn't helped my body at all, but my skin just seems to progressively get worse as I go on. Like I'm beating back a monster that will never stop.

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I agree with the sentiment that people shouldn't beat themselves up over having acne or if they don't have success with diet, and that people should steer clear of the 100% cures and people who rack it all up to leaky gut, candida, demodex mites, or whatever else.

That being said, you haven't exactly linked any evidence that absolutely establishes no link between diet and acne. It's sort of ironic that you're so sure of the etiology of acne to the point where you can't have an open discussion about it. In that sense, you're not so different from the very people you're criticizing for misleading people. People like polarized, clear cut answers, but the reality is that the body is extremely complicated. Disease is complicated.

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I agree with the sentiment that people shouldn't beat themselves up over having acne or if they don't have success with diet, and that people should steer clear of the 100% cures and people who rack it all up to leaky gut, candida, demodex mites, or whatever else.

That being said, you haven't exactly linked any evidence that absolutely establishes no link between diet and acne. It's sort of ironic that you're so sure of the etiology of acne to the point where you can't have an open discussion about it. In that sense, you're not so different from the very people you're criticizing for misleading people. People like polarized, clear cut answers, but the reality is that the body is extremely complicated. Disease is complicated.

Your username should be Canadianheart, since you have so many posts belittling us stoooopid 'Muricans tongue.png

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Acne isn't caused by any one thing--for most people. There are people like alternavista who found very specific food triggers, such as soda and citrus. Then there are people like tritonxiv who react badly post-orgasm. It wouldn't be fair to say orgasm has nothing to do with it just because there are children with acne any more than it would be fair to say that gluten is a factor just because some people can eat it and be fine. If I eat gluten I get explosive nodular acne not to mention horrible stomach problems, blackouts, crying fits and other crazy mood disturbances. I believe tritonxiv that he gets a bad reaction to orgasm.

I think for most of us, we have 5-10 major triggers and it's very difficult to get them all in alignment to have good skin.

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Current Skin-Care Regimen (A work in progress):

Morning:

Gentle wash with DKR cleanser

Benzoyl Peroxide 2.5% (Following Dan's Regimen)

DKR Lotion + A squirt of Argan or Grapeseed oil (The lotion alone wasn't hydrating enough)

Skin 79 Korean BB Cream (excellent stuff)

Evening:

Gentle Wash with DKR Cleanser

Benzoyl Peroxide 2.5% (Following Dan's Regimen)

DKR Lotion + A squirt of Argan or Grapeseed oil


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Some people suffer allergic-like reactions to very specific food groups. This might manifest itself as cystic acne in those individuals. Dairy, citrus, and gluten come to mind.

Others like myself, have zero reaction to food, but horrible reactions to the body's post orgasm processes. Avoid/limiting orgasms clears me 100%. Everyone is different when it comes to their specific trigger.

Pretending to understand why these things occur is only useful as a hobby. For the rest of us, we'll take the practical approach, stick with what works, and get on with our lives. If diet works for you, fantastic. If not, figure something else out or learn to deal with it.

You do realize there are children/virgins out there with acne? I don't think the great mighty "Orgasm" is a factor. Dear lord... the dumbness of some people is astounding.


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Nope sorry, it is. Acne is 100% a symptom of bad eating I don't care what you stubborn people say it is. And a leaky gut is definitely real and causes all forms of acne and other diseases all the time. Doctors and Dermatologists deny this because they'd be *out of business* if people found out. Stop lying to yourselves. Become a raw vegan and stay away from dairy! and your acne will be no more.

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I tend to agree with this. In fact, I think my acne got worse due to following a strict diet because I was so god damned stressed all the time! I think stress is much more of a problem than diet (same with lack of sleep). Not eating much (because lets be honest, veggies do not fill you up or give you the required calories, and eating too much fat/meat could be causing me acne), makes you feel anxious all the time.

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Nope sorry, it is. Acne is 100% a symptom of bad eating I don't care what you stubborn people say it is. And a leaky gut is definitely real and causes all forms of acne and other diseases all the time. Doctors and Dermatologists deny this because they'd be *out of business* if people found out. Stop lying to yourselves. Become a raw vegan and stay away from dairy! and your acne will be no more.


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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Nope sorry, it is. Acne is 100% a symptom of bad eating I don't care what you stubborn people say it is. And a leaky gut is definitely real and causes all forms of acne and other diseases all the time. Doctors and Dermatologists deny this because they'd be *out of business* if people found out. Stop lying to yourselves. Become a raw vegan and stay away from dairy! and your acne will be no more.


Current Skin-Care Regimen (A work in progress):

Morning:

Gentle wash with DKR cleanser

Benzoyl Peroxide 2.5% (Following Dan's Regimen)

DKR Lotion + A squirt of Argan or Grapeseed oil (The lotion alone wasn't hydrating enough)

Skin 79 Korean BB Cream (excellent stuff)

Evening:

Gentle Wash with DKR Cleanser

Benzoyl Peroxide 2.5% (Following Dan's Regimen)

DKR Lotion + A squirt of Argan or Grapeseed oil


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Bah, who says raw veganism is the ideal diet for acne? :/

Anyway, I'm not saying that that is the reason why dejaclairevoyant hasn't got results through diet. But seriously, raw veganism is such an extreme diet that it's not too unlike starving yourself. I don't think it's healthy in the long term.

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Nope sorry, it is. Acne is 100% a symptom of bad eating I don't care what you stubborn people say it is. And a leaky gut is definitely real and causes all forms of acne and other diseases all the time. Doctors and Dermatologists deny this because they'd be *out of business* if people found out. Stop lying to yourselves. Become a raw vegan and stay away from dairy! and your acne will be no more.

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mfw when I've been studying human biology for over two years and you are making bold statements my friend..

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mfw when I've been studying human biology for over two years and you are making bold statements my friend..

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mfw when I've been studying human biology for over two years and you are making bold statements my friend..

You can study whatever degree of science you'd like, I could care less. All I know from *****fourteen years***** of experience with severe acne is that that true acne vulgaris is not influenced by diet what-so-ever. Anyone that says their acne has been *cured* as a result of cutting out dairy, casein or gluten has never experienced severe acne I can tell you that. Half of these people probably didn't even have acne they improved by cutting out a certain food, probably just had some acne-like rash from an allergic reaction.


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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mfw when I've been studying human biology for over two years and you are making bold statements my friend..

You can study whatever degree of science you'd like, I could care less. All I know from *****fourteen years***** of experience with severe acne is that that true acne vulgaris is not influenced by diet what-so-ever. Anyone that says their acne has been *cured* as a result of cutting out dairy, casein or gluten has never experienced severe acne I can tell you that. Half of these people probably didn't even have acne they improved by cutting out a certain food, probably just had some acne-like rash from an allergic reaction.

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mfw when I've been studying human biology for over two years and you are making bold statements my friend..

You can study whatever degree of science you'd like, I could care less. All I know from *****fourteen years***** of experience with severe acne is that that true acne vulgaris is not influenced by diet what-so-ever. Anyone that says their acne has been *cured* as a result of cutting out dairy, casein or gluten has never experienced severe acne I can tell you that. Half of these people probably didn't even have acne they improved by cutting out a certain food, probably just had some acne-like rash from an allergic reaction.

I had acne for thirty years. Severe acne. And Now that I know the truth, i control my acne with diet. My skin cleared completely in a little over one month from the day I began improving my diet. And I did so after seeing post after post from Atkins dieters saying the diet cleared their skin during he last big Atkins fad.

And it isn't just certain foods causing reactions It's the nutrients your body needs to function properly, balance hormones, control inflammatory responses, produce sebum that protects rather than clog pores, heal, and on and on.

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Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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mfw when I've been studying human biology for over two years and you are making bold statements my friend..

You can study whatever degree of science you'd like, I could care less. All I know from *****fourteen years***** of experience with severe acne is that that true acne vulgaris is not influenced by diet what-so-ever. Anyone that says their acne has been *cured* as a result of cutting out dairy, casein or gluten has never experienced severe acne I can tell you that. Half of these people probably didn't even have acne they improved by cutting out a certain food, probably just had some acne-like rash from an allergic reaction.

I had acne for thirty years. Severe acne. And Now that I know the truth, i control my acne with diet. My skin cleared completely in a little over one month from the day I began improving my diet. And I did so after seeing post after post from Atkins dieters saying the diet cleared their skin during he last big Atkins fad.

And it isn't just certain foods causing reactions It's the nutrients your body needs to function properly, balance hormones, control inflammatory responses, produce sebum that protects rather than clog pores, heal, and on and on.

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Acne is caused by an inherited sensitivity to androgen hormones which affects the way the "pore" exfoliates creating infection - not a leaky gut or dairy allergy or even hormonal imbalance. A "leaky gut" is a hypothesized condition (isn't real) and is more correlated in the development of autism than acne and a dairy allergy would manifest in the form of "hives" rather than pimples. Also a dairy allergy is HIGHLY uncommon and affects less than 2% of adults. Stop spreading false information.

The hollistic section should be focused more on researching natural treatments such as vitamin D and "Saw Palmetto" which is known to make people less sensitive to androgen hormones through gradual exposure. So many of you people lack education and seem to view acne as a "dietary disease" and not a genetic disorder of the pore caused by androgen sensitivity as it truly is. Stop blaming the victim.

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Acne is caused by an inherited sensitivity to androgen hormones which affects the way the "pore" exfoliates creating infection - not a leaky gut or dairy allergy or even hormonal imbalance. A "leaky gut" is a hypothesized condition (isn't real) and is more correlated in the development of autism than acne and a dairy allergy would manifest in the form of "hives" rather than pimples. Also a dairy allergy is HIGHLY uncommon and affects less than 2% of adults. Stop spreading false information.

The hollistic section should be focused more on researching natural treatments such as vitamin D and "Saw Palmetto" which is known to make people less sensitive to androgen hormones through gradual exposure. So many of you people lack education and seem to view acne as a "dietary disease" and not a genetic disorder of the pore caused by androgen sensitivity as it truly is. Stop blaming the victim.

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Hello,

I would highly suggest you read "The Clear Skin Diet" by Dr. Valorie Treloar, a respected NY Dermatologist who includes hundreds of researched articles straight from medical journals over the last century which show both strong links and concrete evidence linking diet/lifestyle to acne.

If you go to any area of the world not influenced by the western diet medicine and you will see acne is virtually non existent. One landmark study in her book showed how rural Japanese farmers with a low insulin spiking diet and high organic and vegatable based diet experienced very little acne, but their offspring who moved to cities and familiarized themselves with preserved, sugary, high fat, and chemically laced food are now experiencing acne at astronomically higher levels.

This is because the western diet fuels the flames of inflammation and insulin spikes which has a strong effect on the rise of acne causing hormones. Come on, even mainstream Derms who love Accutane are writing articles about diet and acne now. There is too much overwhelming research for even them to ignore it. This whole "diet has nothing to do with acne" is based upon a few flawed studies that were published half a century ago and were the only real diet related studies that were exposed to most dermatologists. Since many more Holistic-type Dermatologists are out there now, books are being published such as the one mentioned above where doctors have dug up hundreds of studies linking diet to acne. Most were unfortunately pushed under the rug and ignored by mainstream dermatology up until now. I used to think diet and acne had no relation, and then I read her book and the research is non-debatable. Even if you are someone who strongly disagrees with me now, I believe that after seeing this research you will at least admit diet plays a significant role in almost all cases of acne.

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Did you read any of what I wrote? I even admitted your case could be a type of acne where diet is only somewhat/minimally effective or takes a lot of time and adjustment to become effective. These cases do exist, as not everyone is the same and there are a minority group of acne patients whom diet seems to not have a significant effect compared with most people. I'm even agreeing that you may be right! Why are you so ignorant? Can't you see I took the time to tell you where these medical studies are? Have you looked any of it up?

No, you haven't. You won't. Like a little child convinced he's right that 2+2=3 and even if teacher shoves a book in his face you run away with your hands over your ears. You don't want to hear fact. You just want to say YOUR experience means EVERYONE'S experience. Because you have not had success with diet and acne, the patients in these studies must be liars, the members on this site must be liars, or they didn't have severe acne (which they did and we do), etc.

You did not come here to have a rational debate about the scientific literature. You came to whine and complain about your personal experience and how that proves you are right about all acne treatments, and if Dermatologists and other people disagree with you, well then too bad! You're right and they are wrong, because you said so.

This thread is a waste of time and I regret trying to be reasonable with someone that from first glance wasn't a mature and respectful person. Have fun, I am pretty sure you will end up talking to yourself at the end of this discussion, as everyone who tried to reason with you will see you are just an angry person with too much time on their hands.

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mfw when I've been studying human biology for over two years and you are making bold statements my friend..

You can study whatever degree of science you'd like, I could care less. All I know from *****fourteen years***** of experience with severe acne is that that true acne vulgaris is not influenced by diet what-so-ever. Anyone that says their acne has been *cured* as a result of cutting out dairy, casein or gluten has never experienced severe acne I can tell you that. Half of these people probably didn't even have acne they improved by cutting out a certain food, probably just had some acne-like rash from an allergic reaction.


How I Stay Clear:

  • Accutane 5mg/day
  • Probiotics 25 billion organisms/day
  • Cetaphil gentle skin cleanser 2x/day

Low Dose Accutane Log


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