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DAY 73

Having a totaly crap day. Like UBER CRAB. My skin is WORSE today. Im thinking is this my skin breaking out now to the Skinoren? It has been over 2 and a half weeks of using it now...hmm?

I seem to have a lot of tiny tiny red/non inflamed spots all around my face right now, it was very VERRRRY cold out today and when I cam home from college and being out in the cold my hyperpigmentation marks are worse. Ugh I'm sick of this guys..I just want clear skin. Is it too much to ask for??????

I do feel really shitty actually. I had a long day and I am tired, very tired.

I feel like I just want to cry and honestly just give up, Im fed up. I don't get how, when you start a new topical or soap or whatever we have initial breakouts, and at first it seems good and initially looks better but them a week or so later BAM - acne explosion...wtf!

Hi Stacey! Thanks for the encouragement as always.

You should definitely go with your instincts about the Salicylic Peel. If you aren't comfortable, don't do it. Here was my experience: I looked fine the day of the peel and the next day but I felt my skin was super tight. Then for two days after that I was shedding like a snake. Super dry. But if you time it right (get your peel done on a Thursday) then most of the bad peeling happens on the weekend when you hopefully aren't working. Then it was another two or so days of dry skin, but I could still go out in public. I was able to moisturize the whole time and I could have even done a better job moisturizing to minimize the peeling. Still very happy with the results.

I am really happy to hear your skin is starting to clear up and your hair isn't falling out anymore. That's great news! It sounds like the higher dose of spiro is starting to make a difference. That might be why you have the extreme thirst. BUT, please give your doctor a call about the chest pains!! That's not something you should mess around with. Maybe you can do a search about spironolactone and chest pains. Have you had your potassium levels checked recently?

As for your curvier look, I know this a really sensitive subject for you. I noticed the same changes in my body and I believe they are from spiro too. I've been able to work off some of the weight by ramping up my exercise routine, but I do still have a curvier shape. Before you ditch the spiro altogether, maybe just ask yourself if you would regret not seeing it all the way through, at least 6 months. And if you do decide to go off of it, just be sure to ween off very slowly! That was my biggest mistake last time I quit spiro cold turkey. Worst. Idea. Ever.

In any case, we support you no matter what you choose to do!

By the way, I have heard really good things about Dianette. Wish we could get that in the States... it does still have a low dose of spiro so I wonder if that would have the same curvier affect to your body? I think it's only 25mg of spiro, so maybe it wouldn't. Not sure.


Limited dairy/gluten - everything in moderation - lots of healthy fats, and veggies. Too much fruit breaks me out unfortunately.

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Prescription:

Isotrex - Active ingredient of Accutane, Isotretinoin (0.05%) Week 2

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Medik8 Beta Cleanse - (morning)
Benzoyl Peroxide (10%)
Acne.org Moisturiser mixed with a little Sweet Almond oil
Micellular water face cleanse Garnier - (night)
Eucerin Toner - sometimes if skin is very dry
Isotrex


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Stacey i have never posted on your log but i have been following along. I can sympathize with how you feel. Starting a new treatment and suffering through the side effects and NOT KNOWING IF it will help is mega frustrating. Cry if need to as it is therapeutic and try your best to not look in mirrors (its like a knife to the chest when we see the results). From what i've read, SPIRO can take anywhere from 3- 6 months to show consistent improvement so don't get deterred if your skin cycles from good to shitty, etc. Are you doing a topical?

It may help in the interim as Spiro does its thing.

I too am starting a new regimen tonight and i am scared of making things worse but i also know if i don't try, i won't know if i've finally found what works for me.

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It's a rocky road but like everything else in life, there is always a beginning and an end. Here's to finding my end.

God is good to me..........more than I deserve.

James 1:2-4

Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance. And let endurance have its perfect result, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.


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i did a few tca peels and they dried up my existing acne but didnt really clear out my pores too much. best thing i did was get a facial and then everyday in the morning i use thayers alcohol free toner with aloe and then in the evening i use proactiv toner with glycolic acid. that really helps to keep them clear along with my benzaclin too. glycolic acid helps with red marks too so its a win/win. it can dry out your face though so sometimes after i use the toner i rinse my face with water.

a salicylic acid peel would clear out those pores though and clear up your acne too.


Limited dairy/gluten - everything in moderation - lots of healthy fats, and veggies. Too much fruit breaks me out unfortunately.

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Prescription:

Isotrex - Active ingredient of Accutane, Isotretinoin (0.05%) Week 2

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Medik8 Beta Cleanse - (morning)
Benzoyl Peroxide (10%)
Acne.org Moisturiser mixed with a little Sweet Almond oil
Micellular water face cleanse Garnier - (night)
Eucerin Toner - sometimes if skin is very dry
Isotrex


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Stacey there is definitely OBVIOUS improvement! Especially around the chin area. Azeliac Acid is very gentle but i personally cannot attest to its effectiveness. 3 weeks is definitely not enough time to see if things are working out. 3 months is a more realistic timeline so hang in there.

I definitely could use all the support i can get. I just started The Regimen (from this website) yesterday as accutane while improving my acne did not stop it. This will probably be the last stop before i go back to a derm and ask about spiro w/o birth control. I also started a log so feel free to stop by:

Good Luck hun and keep us posted - you are definitely headed in the right direction

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It's a rocky road but like everything else in life, there is always a beginning and an end. Here's to finding my end.

God is good to me..........more than I deserve.

James 1:2-4

Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance. And let endurance have its perfect result, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.


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Ok, thanks for the clarification. Yes so it's tough to know what had the most impact of if it was both combined. I think that's so interesting that Yaz broke you out because it's a derivative of Spiro and Spiro works for you. As much as we try to figure this stuff out it's all a mystery isn't it? Are you planning on getting your hormones rechecked at any time? I just got mine redone this morning again - even though I did it 3 weeks ago the Endo wanted a second look before he refers me for an MRI (for insurance purposes and just to make sure). I'll find out my results in 2 weeks. Oh and the reason for my MRI is because it boggles his mind how my estrogen can be so low yet my FSH is also low - the pituitary gland in our brain sends a signal to raise FSH to try to in turn raise low estrogen and that is not happening for me. What was your FSH?

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that is a great tutorial! I've basically heard that from the esthetician I saw, who was awesome EXCEPT for the fact she caused a small scar once sad.png I think it will go away completely over time but still........and that was when I asked her to extract very lightly. anyway, I do think in some instances it's better to pop the zits. i mean...it's sort of like minor surgery. if we didn't do surgery for people in real life, they would die. that being said, i feel like some kind of freaky addict cuz I seriously won't even pop one. I'm like all or nothing. I'm afraid if I relieve one...i might start getting encouraged and then it would be on to all the others. If it's an inflamed clog pore aka a pimple, and its totally ready like u said, i think its fine and even beneficial to pop. what I have noticed with non inflamed clogged pores (closed comodones, blackheads, whatever else) then I've found more success with leaving them IF I have something effective topically that draws them out. Whenever i would extract my own non inflamed clogged pores they would often fill back up in the same spot, but when they've purged on their own they haven't come back at all. this is still mostly a theory but i'm curious to see the end result of not having squeezed pores for so long.

my acne actually got worse BECAUSE of this I figured out. I use to basically maintain my mild/moderate acne for the last year by continually giving myself all over extractions. while "effective" it just sort of masked the problem. now my acne is worse but it feels like it's actually healing or something. idk. time shall tell. it's doing better today but, I have not been staring in the mirror or anything, quite the opposite. I actually decided to take a break from washing as well, cuz so many of my pores are unclogging right now that I don't even feel the need to keep encouraging my skin to purge, I just need these ones to finish purging. for example, I have this large (sorry...) blackhead on my nose. it's more just that i can tell it's deep and normally i would have extracted that shit in a heartbeat. but this time, the blacksoap drew it out (very quickly, thank god) and it's like a blackhead scab on the side of my nose. i let all my scabs fall away naturally (i think this is an even worse crime than popping a zit--picking a scab. big no no shake.gif ) so we'll see what happens with this guy.

And while we're at it i'll just get more in detail. so that dumb zit on my forehead that I DIDNT pop (which probably would have gone away much better if I did) is like so nuts. its formed blood under it (!!?!??!?!) I've never really had a zit do this. i mean of course i've had zits bleed, after popping them tho. never have i had a whitehead stay there, form blood under it, and just like keep existing strangely. it sort of itches too so i hope that means its healing. the rest of my forehead continues to purge and there are spots that are flatter with less clogged pores, but it still looks bumpy to me and my eyebrows are kind of acting out right now.

omg carb cravings. sigh. i mean, i think everyone has these to one extent or another. carbs give us energy blah blah. but yeah, I love a really good sweet. ironically i don't like things overly sweet, so that just means i like expensive stuff or fruit based pastries like muffins. I can TOTALLY see how metformin would take away carb cravings. from my memory of googling it weeks ago, it like puts insulin to use directly into your cells or something crazy, cuz IR means your body is not able to use all the free insulin. i probably just heinously butchered that explanation but i'm too lazy to open another browser. I knew I had some level of IR previously, but birth control and getting my health together is helping that a lot. Did you ever get your glucose levels measured. mine were def below pre diabetic but still higher than I want. 5.1 was the number last time i got blood tested (don't have the units right here). I know you said your levels were really good and thats why the doctor said it was unecessary, so hopefully bc will help you in the long run too. Do you think you are craving carbs cuz you are thin and ur body wants to put on weight or is it prolly hormonal?


Limited dairy/gluten - everything in moderation - lots of healthy fats, and veggies. Too much fruit breaks me out unfortunately.

-------------------------------------------------------
Prescription:

Isotrex - Active ingredient of Accutane, Isotretinoin (0.05%) Week 2

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Medik8 Beta Cleanse - (morning)
Benzoyl Peroxide (10%)
Acne.org Moisturiser mixed with a little Sweet Almond oil
Micellular water face cleanse Garnier - (night)
Eucerin Toner - sometimes if skin is very dry
Isotrex


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Heeeelooo. Okay I'm gonna blab because this realy is the best place to go on about the minutia and strange details that most ppl would be weirded out by. Skin assessment: prettttttttty good. better. I just washed my face for the first time in I think 3 days. One downfall: i looked kind of pale and tired after doing that (i eat so many vegetables how is this possibleneutral.gif ) but I guess maybe I just need some legit sun. My acne however is better. Since I stopped washing my face with african black soap, I have not had a single whitehead. not one in three days. I definitely think it was contributing to my whitehead problem. I also think I was overwashing. With this stuff, once every two days is prollly enough if its giving you whiteheads. I love the AFB because its purged all my pores, but I don't love that it's contributed to whiteheads. I was getting some before AFB, so can't blame it all on that, but I did notice in the spots where it was irritating my skin a little, like mouth and chin, I was getting more whiteheads than I would normally. Bless the skin gods cuz I don't get zits on my cheeks. Anyway, not a single whitehead in three days, and many purged pores have fallen away on my forehead. like little seeds have been falling out of my face guys. or pearls. ugh. I think my skin is purging on its own, and combined with black soap, it just went full blown. i've been continuing to purge in these last three days. blackheads are coming straight out of the skin. and there are other blackheads and clogged pores that are just starting to come up so i'm not out of the woods yet ye hear. prolly like 80 clogged pores left in total.

I did notice like, six blackheads (smallish) on my left cheek all in a cluster. fun times. not sure what thats about. Oh i've been reading You Can Heal Your Life, (it should be titled You can Heal Your Life and Freak Yourself the Fuck Out in the Process) lol. my mom thinks its all sort of "craziness", the whole we create our illness and each illness reflects an emotional block and issue. there is actually a word for this, I just read it in part of gwyneth paltrow's book (that I skimmed on amazon). Somatization. It means "the (unfortunate) art of turning unexpressed emotions into physical symptoms".

On saturday I turned to the back of you can heal your life and there is this index of literally every health problem I could think of and the emotional cause of the illness, and how to overcome it. from cellulite to leukemia. Blackheads symbolize "little bursts of anger" if my memory serves me right. lol lol. it's probably fairly accurate, even tho upon reading it I was like "omg wtf is with these mind body connections and these crazy hippies" but yah I've really been focusing on trying to let myself "feel" my emotions. Even the anger. The only anger I have is about past events, or when my mom harasses me (eusa_hand.gif ) which is luckily not that often. Really I think its past stuff that makes me more irritable in the present. So i've been "working through" old stuck emotions and situations that I didn't fully process at the time. I went through a series of really hard events all at the same time at the end of college, and then "acted out" a bunch after cuz I didn't process it really at all, and so now I struggle with both the hard events and the way I acted out after (mostly drinking/smoking pot even though it gave me horrible panic attacks/being weird and alienating towards my friends and family/AND having cripplingly low self esteem from aforementioned bad relationship).

The therapist I'm seeing says basically this is really hard to do on your own, process old emotions, and she wants me to wait till therapy. but i'm only there one hour a week--emotions come up all the OTHER hours of the week toohuh.png . So I do my best to give myself therapy and just lie there and feel frustrated and angry at like an ex boyfriend and crazy ppl from college. I also get randomn bursts of anxiety throughout the day, and a lot of times I'll feel "scared". Even if i'm by myself at home during the day, I'll walk in the bathroom and the shower curtain will be shut, and I"ll be like, well what if there's a serial killer behind it? and then I"ll feel this heavy rush of anxiety until I look behind the curtain. I didn't used to feel like this ever. I think the last time I felt like this was as a six year old after accidentally watching parts of Chucky. That movie messed me up for years lol. is anyone else in their mid 20's and afraid of the dark?

The weird thing about acne that I've been feeling is that my acne "makes sense" to me. It's like as I'm processing/purging emotionally, my skin is purging. And when I get heightened emotions, like prolonged irritability and anxiety, i'll often get a breakout. If I was in a really happy peaceful phase of my life, I would be REALLY confused about having acne. but since i'm in this turbulent, intense, emotional healing part, it makes sense I guess. Not that I like it, just that...it seems to reflect how the mind body work together. and coincidentally when I was at peace and in control of my emotions (as much as one can be) I had no zits. And this might not be true for everyone at all so not trying to say if you have acne you aren't super happy or something. do you guys have any thoughts on this? ps I still think hormonal treatments taking f*** forever to work. Bc may just now be kicking into full gear.

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Kelsey - Are you taking spiro? I totally agree about stress/mind acne connection and my dermatologist, therapist and primary care doc have all confirmed this. They told me stess can even have much worse effects than acne. I have always managed stess well and actually liked it so I don't think I ever really knew how to relax. I have never had acne before until 6 months ago and the past 6 months have also been the most depressive/stressful/sorrowful time of my life - worse than teenaged years. It all started with moving multiple times away from where I had lived forever and my family, losing my career due to moving, taking forever to find a job, some other family issues and then bam acne! Which fuels my anxiety like gasoline on a fire. And I have never had an anxiety disorder before. I working on healing emotionally and physically over the next several months and I just thank God for my husband every day.


PM - Clean face with water and cotton rounds. Spot treat with Finacea.
AM- Wash face with Aveeno Gentle Foaming Cleanser and apply Sanitas Oil Free moisturizer
30mg Absorbica for 8 months


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wow that is the exact same as me:

"have never had acne before until 6 months ago and the past 6 months have also been the most depressive/stressful/sorrowful time of my life - worse than teenaged years" except extend that to like 9 months smile.png

the stress connection like...stresses me out. haha. it's something that is more holistic and challenging to tackle than even lifestyle stuff. Like i'm fullblown in healing my emotions right now. I cry over stuff that happened 5 years ago often. Or I feel really mad about it. But its the only way to heal, cuz I didn't heal from it at the time. "You can't heal what you can't feel" is a corny quote I read in a book my counselor gave me. seriously, therapy is really hard but I think its crucial for what i'm going thru right now. I actually have it tomorrow morning.

honestly, the best thing I can say is just go THROUGH it. like feel all the feelings. because then they will GO. if you run from them (cuz its really hard to go through something 5 or 10x harder than you've ever faced and its tempting to want to numb/dissasociate) it will do no good. Like I mentioned, I feel intense pangs of anxiety throughout the day (which I never previously experienced) and in the beginning I would mentally "run from them". I would avoid anything that triggered them or do anything to remedy them. Typically it involved mild ocd rituals to mitigate the feeling, but this is very a. boring and b. isolating. so anyway w/o getting too in depth i try my best to not give into whatever behavior will help me dissasociate from the feeling, and just feel the anxiety/pain in its whole. Then I noticed that I actually start to make progress, which is really awesome. The only way out is through I guess. But yeah if you feel those feelings, they will then be released. It hurts and it's not fun but it's actually the most natural and logical for me.

I was very lucky in most ways growing up, and staying cemented in academics and being a serious athlete always kept me "grounded" if potentially overly perfectionistic. my parents split up before I was born, but my mom is very loving and did literally everything for me. My dad and I were close but I only saw him on the weekends. He also struggles with anxiety and depression, and I think I resemble him in personality more than my mom. Him and I have had conflict tho, bad at times (fighting), which I know has affected me. In college I got into a relationship with an older guy (10 years older) who was actually my teacher. Well he was the teaching assistant (TA, working toward his PhD) for this amazing philosophy class I took my junior year. He pursued me but I had a momentous crush on him---too much of a crush, you know the unhealthy kind. Well I found out pretty quickly into dating that he was kind of a creep and an asshole, and a very negative and critical person. I pulled back in the beginning and he started treating me really badly. Then I floundered and felt I was losing him, so I abandoned all my intuition telling me it was a bad situation and sacrificed everything and anything to make the relationship work, as he continued to ignore and humiliate me verbally and socially. he would invite me over, only once or twice a week, and then make it sound like it was going to be just him there, but when I arrived several friends would be there and he would essentially act like he barely knew me or sort of belittle or very visibly ignore me in front of them. It was very cruel and I had never experienced anything that bad before. He was meaner than the cattiest girl in high school, really.

This probably reflects some "dad" issues with him being so much older and what not. He was such a jerk tho, criticizing what I ate, wore, my friends, my opinions, my family, constantly ditching me or giving me the silent treatment or even yelling at me and having angry panic attacks directed at me anytime I brought up anything having to do with feelings. It made me have very negative associations about even talking about feelings, which I'm trying to undo now. it was so painful. I had had a string of like 7 or 8 really nice, well adjusted boyfriends from loving families before him. I had broken up with all of them; I never felt challenged and I wanted to date a "really smart" guy. Maybe its my relationship karma for breaking previous hearts. my aunt and uncle told me I would get karma someday for it, and I guess in some f'd up way they were right.

I went from being very confident with guys to being so intensely insecure, even bounds beyond my weakest years as a teen. it was so ugly. I could barely even talk to people and i completely lost all the things that made me who I was. I stopped exercising, I stopped reading challenging intellectual material, I stopped hanging out with my friends cuz I got panic attacks around them, I stopped being close to family and acted out towards them. I started criticizing everyone and mostly myself, and developing all these close minded, bitchy opinions who weren't me at all, but just cuz I was trying to cover up all the wounds inside. Basically it was just like a major crash and I got ptsd, I still have sypmtoms of it now; sometimes I will shake and obviously panic attacks. The whole situation really made me re-evaluate the basis of self esteem and who I am. Apparently my self esteem wasn't as strong as I thought it was if all it took was one terrible ass hole boyfriend and a few crazy roommates to completely unhinge me and send me into an intense spiral of self hate and shame. So i'm working on that lol.

Oh yeah at the time that I started dating the ass hole, I was living with 9 girls who were pretty intense ppl although I had gotten along with everyone all year long and made sure to not get involved in all the gossip/vitriol that went on between some of them throughout the year. Well when I wanted to move out early they all flipped shit on me and basically attacked me emotionally. One of the weirdest girls, who sat in her room all day everyday with her boyfriend, smoked pot, did nothing else and I didn't even know prior to moving in together... told me I was a huge thoughtless bitch, super selfish, and really "hard to like". it all stung bad, but that last one stung like a bitch. I guess I just had never had anyone look me in the eyes and say I really fucking hate you. sure I'd had ppl be jerks, but this was a whole new level. This was right around the time my boyfriend (the asshole) told me I was a selfish bitch in a letter, after I had literally done nothing except try to stick up for myself when he treated me like shit. He was actually insane (he admitted to me that he was crazy and needed therapy), and I basically worshipped him, so this was a terrible combination. Maybe I WAS a little bit selfish before, but it kept me happy, healthy, and loving towards my friends and family. In our society, as a woman, you're either too insecure or too confident, too selfish or too selfless (giving too much). you can't fucking win. That girl was not even one of my friends, and I was very loyal and generous to my friends and family whereas I kept my distance from ppl like her who I perceived to be toxic. nevertheless, the words ate me alive inside and triggered all my own issues to erupt, anxiety, depression, and susceptibliity to deeply low self esteem. sometimes I think my biggest weakness is my minds ability and imagination. I have been told my whole life I am smart, I skipped a grade, took all ap classes, got straight a's, easily got into college...but when all this "intellect" turns on how much I hate myself, because someone didn't accept me or criticized me, I will obliterate everything I've ever done and sink my self esteem as low as it can go.

Writing all that was really therapeutic for me and I also think it's extremely weird that I wrote it at all but I'm posting this cuz it is really helping me heal. If you didn't even read it, no worries, we can move on and continue talking about super fun zits.

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hey misssac17, i am doing pretty good i am still on the spiro (5 months on friday) at 100mg and have dropped down the keflex to 500mg a day. the plan is to slowly wean off of the keflex and hope the spiro has kicked in by now. i also use hylunia gentle cleanser and then thayers non alcohol toner for the morning and proactiv toner for the evening with glycolic acid to keep my pores clear. i also use benzaclin twice a day and its all been working pretty well. my red marks are fading nicely but i have some bad scarring on my chin so just trying to figure out when or if i am going to get laser done on it.

how is your skin doing?

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Kelseylee –

I did indeed read it. I can definitely relate. It sounds like you are similar to me in that you have always had everything under control and then after numerous negative life events and kind of realizing you aren’t in control after all, you crashed. It’s time for me to write a long post, hopefully others aren’t annoyed! I have always been the type of person to bottle things in and never ever used to cry…and now I cry almost daily! I am also a perfectionist and am used to always having control of my life and having life perfectly planned. I always felt that I was strong and confident before, was athletic and took great care of my body and health or so I thought…but then we moved to Colorado a little over a year ago (we chose to move, which makes me all the more frustrated at my situation). This was the first time I have ever not lived in the same city as my parents (even though I’m 27 I went to both colleges in the same city and stayed in the area after marrying- DFW is a big place). I am also extremely close to my mom and for some reason I didn’t even think twice about how moving away would affect me. I initially took the job with me that I loved and was working remotely (I figured out pretty quickly that working from home is not for me). The first 8 months were relatively ok for me…but when I think back I think I can see how things were creeping up and I just didn’t even notice. I was very slowly getting more and more homesick…getting a pimple here and there on my lower face where I never used to get pimples. I was starting to have little obsessions at that point as well, but I didn’t recognize anything as signs of stress. I was getting more and more discontent with working at home as well so we decided we needed to move to a larger city (we were in a small rural area originally, which was kind of a silly move coming from living in a huge metro area when I think back).

That summer we did all kinds of hiking trips, trying to climb a bunch of the CO mountains, drove almost cross country on a road trip and ended up in California climbing the tallest peak in the lower 48…which was one of the most physically stressful things I have ever done. These things were definitely fun and what we enjoyed doing, but I think it was just all too much. At the end of the summer I had seriously hurt both my knees (I still can’t hike more than 2 miles without pain, which really saddens me) from all the hiking and climbing. We got back from all that and moved again in a whirl wind…I think that’s when my body finally said enough is enough. Shortly after our second move (which we decided to try out a cabin type house in the mountains close to the city right before winter – which was another dumb decision for this Texas girl) my face started noticeably breaking out…I was still working from home but looking for a job in the city at that point…which ended up taking 4 months!! I felt like I was trapped in this snowy cabin in the mountains for months in a completely new place. We didn’t even get to spend holidays with any family. It was so isolating. Around that time my sister was also making really bad decisions that were majorly effecting our family emotionally…we are still recovering from it. I think I was mildly depressed at that point and only fully realized my depression about 3 months ago. I finally got a new job and took a trip back to Texas to resign from my beloved job, see family and friends and kind of “say goodbye”. After we came back I really crashed. I had thought that getting a job where I lived was going to make everything better…but it didn’t. This time leaving, I sobbed every time I said goodbye to someone. I cried in front of my old boss when I left that day. She was completely shocked because this is like the opposite of my personality. It was like moving and leaving everything didn’t register the first time, and now when I was finally cutting some cords, it was all so real and emotions that I hadn’t expressed or even realized I had were coming out like a hurricane. Even though my new job isn’t stressful and my new boss is super cool, my anxiety has grown by leaps and bounds. At that point I started going back to dermatologists I had seen and begging for something to help me. I was trying everything for my face which now was at the worst point it’s ever been in my life (still not severe acne, as my derm keeps reminding me, but pretty damn persistent and commodonal which feels like a nightmare because it NEVER goes away or does anything but look disgusting under my skin).

Six weeks ago I relented and went to a therapist who told me I had major separation anxiety from moving, was extremely uncomfortable in this unplanned and unsure situation, which has now developed into a complete lack of confidence and general anxiety mainly focused on my face (which was caused by all the stress in the first place) and depression. We are working on biofeedback and relaxation techniques. She has told me the acne is a direct manifestation of the stress and once I stop being stressed and anxious it will start going away. The dermatologist recently put me on Spiro and Doxy as my acne is in a very hormonal place on my face. They assure me it will help in 2-3 months. Stress changes your hormones, so this could very well be what’s happening. The derm also told me I’m at that “age in a women’s life when hormones sometimes change and cause adult acne”. In the past 3 months I have also started losing weight (when I am already tiny), having trouble sleeping, waking up with night sweats, feeling completely unmotivated/unable to do anything requiring a lot of energy. I am part of a soccer team and I just keep not going. My husband basically has to drag me out of the house to do things that were my previous passions. I am late for work a lot…thank God for an understanding boss. Waiting on the Spiro and topicals to work is all well and good, but my anxiety continues to grow, even with therapy…and I feel like if I can’t stop being stressed the medicines might have a much harder time doing anything. Last weekend brought me to the point of going to my primary care doctor to get bloodwork and to talk about an anti-anxiety medicine. I’ve started having worse and worse anxiety attacks and last weekend it took my husband several hours to get me out of bed as I was irrationally terrified to get up. I have never experienced this kind of debilitating fear in my life…I always considered myself to be mentally healthy, it’s so bizarre. So back to present, my doc is testing all my hormones and my thyroid (I have a family history) to see if there could be anything else going on. If it’s all clear he’s going to prescribe me an anti-anxiety (something I would never in a million years imagined taking in the past) to help me get over this hump. I feel like I am stuck in a cycle of being anxious, my acne gets worse, making me get more anxious, my acne gets worse….and I can’t break it. Hoping this will give me the boost I need to stop caring and obsessing over my face enough so that my mind can go back to normal things and be happy again…allowing the acne medications I am on to take full effect and my face go back to normal. If my face improves I think my anxiety will lessen and I won’t have any pimples to freak out about. In the meantime, my therapist is working on my being confident again…and I need to fully work through my dreaded homesickness. We are meeting people/making friends and making efforts to get back to “life as normal” with regular activities and being involved at church. Some people say homesickness just takes time. I have this little mental deadline in my head that maybe maybe my face will be mostly healed and my emotional state much much better over the next 3-4 months (we are moving down into the city out of the mountains into a normal house in 3 months, which I hope will help me feel more normal, but I am also hoping to be a lot better by then so I don’t bring these bad memories with me and can really enjoy it). Does anyone think that is a reasonable hope to have? I have no idea how long it takes things like this to clear or emotions to get better.

PS. On a side note I am also very spiritual and have been really having to make myself trust God during this hard time. I have been learning that I am not in control, as much as I want to be. I try to take comfort in the fact that God is growing me through this experience and I will hopefully be a better, more compassionate person on the other side. I need to let go and learn to be better at patience, contentment and joy. I think God has a purpose for everyone and sometimes getting us to where we need to be is a hard, uncomfortable process. God can use trials to produce qualities in us that could not be cultivated in any other way. This too shall pass.

Greetings---

Sierra I looked at your pics and was loling at the carb craving comments...haha definitely had those!!! I've found theyve gone down with bc, and I was thinking back to when I was on bc before or just when I was feeling better in general, and I craved savory foods almost predominantly. I mean I still liked fruit and occasional sweets, but mostly I would be like yum dinner, savory food etc. Whereas now i'm like thinking about sweets based things, even though I really try to eat mostly savory food. it's definitely hormonal/acne related for me. I hope they continue to go down. Have sugar cravings gone down with spiro or bc for you?

Hi Kelseylee!

Glad to hear I'm not alone with those crazy cravings. I've had issues with carb cravings and binge eating for years. I think it's at an all time high right now to be honest and I don't know if it has any relation to the spiro. When I was on spiro and bc before I would still get those cravings but I could manage them better. Now if I don't leave the kitchen immediately after a meal I will eat all day. No joke.

The one thing that did help was my very brief stint on Metformin which is actually a drug for diabetics. According to my labs I am not a diabetic so that's why I went off of it, but, oh my. It was the only time in my adult life that I have been totally free of my insane carb cravings. Still miss that pill...

I'm sorry to hear your skin is not treating you well. But I do commend you on not popping those suckers! I try to never pop but I still do on occasion if I know the zit is "ripe". If you must pop, I got a great lesson from my esthetician who said if I really have to pop here's how to do it:

Clean and steam your face beforehand to open pores. I usually just take a warm shower. Then clean the pimple with an alcohol based toner, prick it with a sanitized safety pin, then use two cotton swabs dipped in the alcohol on the sides of your fingers (instead of the tips) to apply pressure on both sides of the pimple so you don't accidentally hurt your skin by pinching. If it pops easily, continue to make sure you get ALL of the gunk out. Leaving some of that in there will only make it worse. You'll know it's all out when the blood runs more clear and you don't feel that deeper infected ache, just a dull pain caused by popping. Move your fingers around the pimple instead of just trying one angle. Pores are not always straight up and down so you have to find the right angle. If it doesn't pop easily, leave it alone! When you're done wipe it with another cotton swab dipped in alcohol. I've been using that method on my recent smaller pimples and it works like a charm. They heal up quickly and don't come back.

Wow, didn't realize I was such a zit popping expert til I wrote that manifesto! Anyway, hope that helps smile.png

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>Skindeepstory - did you have a lot of clogged pores and did yuo find that Spiro helped clear and stop those?

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Hey Lifeinfaith - I read your whole story and feel for what you're going through. Life events are hard enough sometimes and to have skin problems on top of it feels like a whilrwind of chaos. I'm glad you have a supportive husband and a family that loves you even if they are not always close by. It is so interesting about the stress causing acne. I suppose they really can be related. I think it makes it hard that you feel isolated too - I will tell you that staying busy and having distractions really does help. I would try getting outside where you are and taking, long peaceful walks. Is it pretty where you are? Sounds like it must be. Anyway, this is just to calm down becuase you need a breather. I believe the meds will work for you. Also, since acne is a relatively new thing for you that means you don't have scarring. I used to believe like you that God had a plan and my trials would lead me to the best person I was supposed to be. But when I started getting acne scarring that is when I had trouble continuing to believe everything happens for a reason. It is a life sentence more or less and I have spent the last year devastated. Thank goodness for my husband who is just endlessly loving and carefree about whatever my skin is going through. I really struggle on a daily basis though. So I understand what you're going through. I used to be excited about life and, like you, I was in really good shape and loved running and working out. Now I hardly do those things and feel like a shell of myself. It's just not fair is it? Anyway, just wanted to tell you I relate! Hugs!

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Hi Tracy521 - When do you feel like the Spiro started working for you/making your face less oily? My derm tells me to give it 6 weeks to see a difference and then it keeps getting better. I mostly have lots of closed comedones and a few active pimples that come up.

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Hi Michi,

I'm sorry to hear that. Have you had acne for a really long time? It's weird that some people scar and others don't. I should be more grateful for what I do have. I try to tell myself that it's not cancer or like I am paralyzed or lacking limbs or something. Keep hope in the new treatments there are for acne scarring and the fact that you have a loving husband no matter what imperfections you have.

Hey Lifeinfaith - I read your whole story and feel for what you're going through. Life events are hard enough sometimes and to have skin problems on top of it feels like a whilrwind of chaos. I'm glad you have a supportive husband and a family that loves you even if they are not always close by. It is so interesting about the stress causing acne. I suppose they really can be related. I think it makes it hard that you feel isolated too - I will tell you that staying busy and having distractions really does help. I would try getting outside where you are and taking, long peaceful walks. Is it pretty where you are? Sounds like it must be. Anyway, this is just to calm down becuase you need a breather. I believe the meds will work for you. Also, since acne is a relatively new thing for you that means you don't have scarring. I used to believe like you that God had a plan and my trials would lead me to the best person I was supposed to be. But when I started getting acne scarring that is when I had trouble continuing to believe everything happens for a reason. It is a life sentence more or less and I have spent the last year devastated. Thank goodness for my husband who is just endlessly loving and carefree about whatever my skin is going through. I really struggle on a daily basis though. So I understand what you're going through. I used to be excited about life and, like you, I was in really good shape and loved running and working out. Now I hardly do those things and feel like a shell of myself. It's just not fair is it? Anyway, just wanted to tell you I relate! Hugs!


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Hi guys, I just read this on tumblr and wanted to share. -warning- strong language used

  • Woman: I'm smart
  • Patriarchy: Well you're probably ugly then
  • Woman: I'm creative
  • Patriarchy: You mean unattractive right?
  • Woman: I have all these incredible accomplishments
  • Patriarchy: Yeah but look how ugly you looked doing them
  • Woman: I have value
  • Patriarchy: Not if you're ugly lol
  • Woman: I'm conventionally-attractive & posted selfies on my blog
  • Patriarchy: I'm so sick of these empty-headed chicks only caring about their looks. Just because you are attractive and get attention from men doesn't mean you are special or deserve respect. Why don't you read a book or do something productive with your life you dumb slut

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Ok, thanks for the clarification. Yes so it's tough to know what had the most impact of if it was both combined. I think that's so interesting that Yaz broke you out because it's a derivative of Spiro and Spiro works for you. As much as we try to figure this stuff out it's all a mystery isn't it? Are you planning on getting your hormones rechecked at any time? I just got mine redone this morning again - even though I did it 3 weeks ago the Endo wanted a second look before he refers me for an MRI (for insurance purposes and just to make sure). I'll find out my results in 2 weeks. Oh and the reason for my MRI is because it boggles his mind how my estrogen can be so low yet my FSH is also low - the pituitary gland in our brain sends a signal to raise FSH to try to in turn raise low estrogen and that is not happening for me. What was your FSH?

Hi Michi,

I wasn't planning on getting my hormone levels rechecked unless my endo requests that I do. My endo is the one who said he doesn't think I have PCOS and has no idea what's wrong with me...so...probably going to look for a new endo at some point anyway.

This is all such a big mystery. I was pretty caught up in getting a diagnosis and actually felt really relieved to find out I had PCOS, and then getting undiagnosed was a bit of a blow. But, I'm relaxing a little on figuring it all out because the medicine I'm on seems to be helping. I hope your MRI goes well! It would be nice to figure all of this out, right?

My FSH was at 7.0. I don't think that's low, but the FSH level is confusing to me. According to my lab, my level indicated I'm either follicular, midcycle, or luteal. I don't think it means much of anything because at that point I wasn't menstruating or ovulating at all. What was your level if you don't mind me asking?

Sierra

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I had a dermasweep done by an aesthetician at my derm’s office yesterday. This is basically a microderm plus putting salicylic acid on my skin after. Then she steamed my face and did a few extractions. I think the microderm was fine, my face felt smoother (in the areas I don’t have clogged pores) after and there was no redness or down time like a chemical peel sometimes. However…I don’t really feel like it did a whole lot for the clogged pores. AND she kind of sucked at doing extractions. She only did like a handful of them, she would lance each and then use the comodo extractor…nothing really got swollen or irritated…but later that evening when I was looking at the spots she “extracted” they all seemed to still look like clogged pores and so I squeezed them all and got stuff out of each and every one, one she had especially worked on for a while, squeezed a ton of stuff out when I barely touched it….so I am like, what gives, I paid her a ton of money to do unsuccessful extractions that I had to come home and finish myself (which I absolutely hate and it sends me into an anxiety attack most of the time L). The only real improvement I see on my clogged pores are that a few of them maybe look slightly slightly closer to the surface..and this morning I had a couple of tiny white heads that came off in the shower. Does anyone have experiences with microderm or know if there will be more delayed effects in a few days? Also, how do you guys find an aesthetician that does good extractions?? I feel like I can’t find any. I had one done 4 months ago when I had a sal peel done at a medical spa and basically the exact same thing happened...she failed to extract anything. I feel like extractions are more successful without using the little extraction tool. She also made the comment when she was doing them that “all your clogged pores are under the skin instead of right at the surface that come off easily.” If they came off easily I think I would have taken care of them myself and not be going crazy over…also isn’t that one of the definitions of being a closed comodone, being under the skin?

Skindeepstory – I know you said you had to get facials to get rid of a lot of you clogged pores. Did you have to ask them to do them a certain way or were yours all already whiteheads and not really under the skin?


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hey lifeinfaith,

I know what you're talking about with extractions. luckily I always seemed to find ppl that were good at them, but my problem would be that a few weeks later the same spots would refill. when I was younger, and barely had acne, this would'nt happen and a facial would make me feel great for a while, but part of this was how good my skin already was. anyway, i really think its up to the individual and not the tools they use etc. The lady I saw who was the best at it mostly only used her hands, and she was really fast. she unclogged my pores a lot like I would myself, with sort of a delicate but firm grasp and just pushing at angles on the skin, with tissue, to get all the stuff out. mine might be closer to the surface however which DEFINITELY makes it easier. anything stuck below the surface she would just leave because it was too dangerous. or use the little tool which worked well most of the time. it did make me nervous towards the end though-making a little incision and then squeezing...back to the minor surgery analogy. actually one of the best extracters I ever had was when I got my eyebrows waxed at a really fancy hair salon. the lady was like oooh you have a milia right there can I get it for you. So she did and I barely felt a single thing she was so gentle and I think she got a few more.

So my advice is don't necessarily go to a "medical" spa. I would find a really high end salon. I don't find that those salons are even more expensive necessarily, just that their ppl know what they're doing. Aveda salons are generally quite good, and when you call, ask for the person that does the best/knows the most about extractions. plain and simple. just be like, I want the best facialist and extractor you have. after I had a few facials with the lady who was really good, the desk girls were like "oh yeah shes definitely the best". I also found the best and most expensive hair salons (gary manuel) in the pacific northwest to have really good estheticians. Hence the lady that waxed my eyebrows. hope that helps. In some ways estheticians can vary in skill as much as a hair stylist or dermatologist, so don't go back to one who wasn't able to extract your pores as easily as YOU did at home, that's crazy. The micro and SA probably helped loosen up your pores, but still she should have been able to get most that gunk out.

the last two times I got facials I had red spots all over my face and my skin just looked attacked, and that kind of freaked me out. I still have two more facials at an aveda salon in seattle that I will use w/o extractions. are you in the boulder, co area?

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Hi Everyone! Just been reading through all 9 pages of this and decided to join this website so I could join in the chat!! wavey.gif

I have been on 50mg of spironolactone for a week now. It was an absolute nightmare trying to get it prescribed in England, it seems here its rarely used for acne, and i had to go to the dermatologist with an arm load of research id gathered and a very persuasive pre-planned speech. She eventually agreed to let me try it but wanted me to have blood tests to check my potassium levels and hormones.

So, a bit of background, iv had acne since i was 11, im now 26. Iv done lots of antibiotics, dianette, yasmin, accutane 3 times, n litle laser treatment, duac, differin, epiduo, dalacin-t, benzoyl peroxide, paula's choice salicylic acid, dairy free diet, gluten free diet, sugar free diet, wild oregano oil. Basically, iv done everything! I had success with accutane but only whilst I was on it, a few months after id come off it my skin would break out again. I also had some success with dianette but my sister got a blood clot from the contraceptive pill and iv now been told i'm never allowed it again as i may have a genetic pre-disposition towards blood clots.

So the last few years iv been trying to cope by gently cleansing and using a combination of epiduo and duac, but things really got out of control recently. I had read a lot about spiro and had asked the doctor about it a few years back but she looked at me like i was an idiot and said it wasn't an acne drug. So anyway, this time i was determined to be taken seriously, and by some miracle i actually got prescribed it!

So right, its been a week at 50mg and so far i havn't really noticed anything. Had a few headaches but nothing major.

Just wanna thanks all you girls for all your information on here, it's been great for me to read as i'm just starting out on it! Really praying this tablet will be my holy grail!!!!! Il keep you updated!

Abby xxx

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Hey Kelseylee -

Thanks for all the advice! I have always gone to Aveda Salons for hair cuts and loved them, it never occurred to me to use them for aestetician services. I will have to try calling them up and asking for the best extractor... I didn't really know you could do that. I wonder if I could ask what technique they use -hands v tool.

No, I am in CO Springs. But if you know of any places to recommend in the Denver area I would deffinitely make the drive.

Are you on any type of retinoid? I find that when I have done my own extractions while using retinoids it leaves terrible red marks and tears my skin. I have been off retin a micro for over a week now and the extractions I have done on myself have not left nearly the marks they usually make.

hey lifeinfaith,

I know what you're talking about with extractions. luckily I always seemed to find ppl that were good at them, but my problem would be that a few weeks later the same spots would refill. when I was younger, and barely had acne, this would'nt happen and a facial would make me feel great for a while, but part of this was how good my skin already was. anyway, i really think its up to the individual and not the tools they use etc. The lady I saw who was the best at it mostly only used her hands, and she was really fast. she unclogged my pores a lot like I would myself, with sort of a delicate but firm grasp and just pushing at angles on the skin, with tissue, to get all the stuff out. mine might be closer to the surface however which DEFINITELY makes it easier. anything stuck below the surface she would just leave because it was too dangerous. or use the little tool which worked well most of the time. it did make me nervous towards the end though-making a little incision and then squeezing...back to the minor surgery analogy. actually one of the best extracters I ever had was when I got my eyebrows waxed at a really fancy hair salon. the lady was like oooh you have a milia right there can I get it for you. So she did and I barely felt a single thing she was so gentle and I think she got a few more.

So my advice is don't necessarily go to a "medical" spa. I would find a really high end salon. I don't find that those salons are even more expensive necessarily, just that their ppl know what they're doing. Aveda salons are generally quite good, and when you call, ask for the person that does the best/knows the most about extractions. plain and simple. just be like, I want the best facialist and extractor you have. after I had a few facials with the lady who was really good, the desk girls were like "oh yeah shes definitely the best". I also found the best and most expensive hair salons (gary manuel) in the pacific northwest to have really good estheticians. Hence the lady that waxed my eyebrows. hope that helps. In some ways estheticians can vary in skill as much as a hair stylist or dermatologist, so don't go back to one who wasn't able to extract your pores as easily as YOU did at home, that's crazy. The micro and SA probably helped loosen up your pores, but still she should have been able to get most that gunk out.

the last two times I got facials I had red spots all over my face and my skin just looked attacked, and that kind of freaked me out. I still have two more facials at an aveda salon in seattle that I will use w/o extractions. are you in the boulder, co area?


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Hi no not on a retinoid...i've actually never been to a dermatologist and thank god its starting to get better cuz I would have otherwise. Yeah I think what she did was fine on my pores, it just looked worse in my head because my acne was worse and she had to do so many more extractions than normal. as you guys can prolly relate, it got worse really fast and definitely freaked me out. I went from having like some manageable clogged pores to having sooo many.

w/extractions it was mostly the problem that the pores would just re fill, and that's when I realized for me, extractions were sort of just covering up the problem. Albeit they are a very good cover up. and that might not even necessarily be true, maybe they are an effective acne cure, I just noticed mine kept refilling and I kept thinking ohhh shit. Now my face is purging like crazy. Any small blackhead has come to the surface and all the closed comodones are coming out. I have like 10 pores at all times that have pushed a thing out. My body is changing in other ways too, starting (verrry slowly) to go back to how it used to be, also when I had no acne. So that's good. Still tho, right now I have like five small whiteheads around my right lip area. ALso interesting-as my acne purges and gets better, my ezcema improves at the exact same rate.

Honestly my skin kind of looks like I took accutane (for having mild/moderate acne). In the way that its behaving, purging like crazy. I think i'm having a healing crisis. I shld take a picture. I have been avoiding it cuz I don't really enjoy doing it and I don't have a mac anymore so I have to do it on my phone. But yeah the only products I use are african black soap and randomnly, salycilic acid (2%). I swing through periods of using black soap every day, every other day and stopping it for a little while. Right now i'm using it every day or every other day. But I notice as my body makes more fundamental, serious changes, I see how topicals matter less and less for me. They can do an excellent job controlling, but really (for me) acne comes from an inside level.

my mom saw an esthetician for years who was a total professional, her name was sally. I remember even as a kid thinking she had the best skin. Luckily my skin always was a lot like my dads, he probably has never had a pimple in his life. However, when I started to get acne, my skin started behaving like my mom's! And she's had moderate acne her whole life. some cystic and clogged pores. But she also just trusted dermatologists her whole life and never believed it could be cured. She just treated it externally only I guess is what i'm saying. I googled "best estheticians colorado springs" and am looking @ results.

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I wish I was feeling like I was starting to heal. I am not sure I am on the downhill yet....its so hard to gauge. I have definitely been purging a lot lately, and actually since the microderm on Thursday, Friday evening a whole ton of clogged pores (like 8-10) around my jaw area looked real near the surface, and so I gently squeezed and they all kinda just came out. Additionally, this morning 2 clogs on my left cheek bone were looking kinda red/swollen and came out with some squeezes. None of them really left red marks so....im thinking its a lot easier to squeeze stuff out when not on retin a and maybe the microderm helped loosen stuff. I still have so many other clogs on my cheeks bones though and on the back of my jaw, and its so weird cause they're in the exact same place and pattern on each side of my face. I am thinking of rotating SA and retin a every other night so that maybe the SA helped dry stuff up that Retin a is trying to bring up. If I attempt another extraction appt next month I'll take a break from the retin a again. I really feel like the extractions can help since my issue is mostly tiny bumps that love to hang out under the skin. It just sucks getting them to come to the surface. I wonder what makes the difference between ones that come to the surface and make the skin red, swollena nd tender, and others that just kind push the little clog up and out without any irritation. Kelsey have you experienced both of this happening in your purging?

In other news, my labs came in today. All my thyroid came in totally normal, estrogen normal, but my testosterone is really low. I didn't really expect that. If anything I would have though it to be high since all my life I have been thin with very little fat (low testosterone usually causes the opposite of this and make it hard for women to loose weight, especially fat) and have had oily skin. Unfortunately I don't have hormone tests from before I was on Spiro, so I am wondering if the Spiro is dropping my testosterone so low and if it could have even had that much of an effect in 2 weeks....my doc will be talking to me about it on Monday.


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AM- Wash face with Aveeno Gentle Foaming Cleanser and apply Sanitas Oil Free moisturizer
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Hi Everyone! Just been reading through all 9 pages of this and decided to join this website so I could join in the chat!! wavey.gif

I have been on 50mg of spironolactone for a week now. It was an absolute nightmare trying to get it prescribed in England, it seems here its rarely used for acne, and i had to go to the dermatologist with an arm load of research id gathered and a very persuasive pre-planned speech. She eventually agreed to let me try it but wanted me to have blood tests to check my potassium levels and hormones.

So, a bit of background, iv had acne since i was 11, im now 26. Iv done lots of antibiotics, dianette, yasmin, accutane 3 times, n litle laser treatment, duac, differin, epiduo, dalacin-t, benzoyl peroxide, paula's choice salicylic acid, dairy free diet, gluten free diet, sugar free diet, wild oregano oil. Basically, iv done everything! I had success with accutane but only whilst I was on it, a few months after id come off it my skin would break out again. I also had some success with dianette but my sister got a blood clot from the contraceptive pill and iv now been told i'm never allowed it again as i may have a genetic pre-disposition towards blood clots.

So the last few years iv been trying to cope by gently cleansing and using a combination of epiduo and duac, but things really got out of control recently. I had read a lot about spiro and had asked the doctor about it a few years back but she looked at me like i was an idiot and said it wasn't an acne drug. So anyway, this time i was determined to be taken seriously, and by some miracle i actually got prescribed it!

So right, its been a week at 50mg and so far i havn't really noticed anything. Had a few headaches but nothing major.

Just wanna thanks all you girls for all your information on here, it's been great for me to read as i'm just starting out on it! Really praying this tablet will be my holy grail!!!!! Il keep you updated!

Abby xxx


Limited dairy/gluten - everything in moderation - lots of healthy fats, and veggies. Too much fruit breaks me out unfortunately.

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Prescription:

Isotrex - Active ingredient of Accutane, Isotretinoin (0.05%) Week 2

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Medik8 Beta Cleanse - (morning)
Benzoyl Peroxide (10%)
Acne.org Moisturiser mixed with a little Sweet Almond oil
Micellular water face cleanse Garnier - (night)
Eucerin Toner - sometimes if skin is very dry
Isotrex


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Day 82 - 25mg -- AGAIN

Ooookay guys. Long update I know. I have something to say though.

I have decided to quit the Spiro. I am going to be doing this by progressively cutting down - 25mg for 1 weeks then 25mg every second day for the 2nd and 3rd week and then the 4th week once per week and I will hopefully stop on the 5th.

Ive just had enough. Its the weight side of things. I know that not everyone experiences weight changes, but I tell you I certainly HAVE. Its weird its like my body does not register when I am full and I crave ALOT of sugary things and junk food basically. Ive deffo gained some and Im not weighing myself because it will upset me.

My weight has been a BIG issue for me all my life really, more or less anyway. Now that my body is alot curvier - I hate it. I know it may sound daft since Im not fat or anything but I would rather be sa bit thinner and leaner and if I stay on the Spiro I know I won't be that, no matter how much I work out.

I am actually ecxited to stop it completely and see how things change, I actually think my skin looks better now after being on Skinoren for the past 4 weeks as opposed to being on the Spiro - its obviously hard to tell.

It makes sense though that whilst the testosterone decreases, estrogen is raised, therefore it will be hard to maintain muscle mass Im presuming, which would make sense tbh. I have also got ALOT more cellulite, and Im sorry but for me Im just not keen on this side-effect.

I will be clear AND smooth one day and totally love my appearance, and whether that be now or later I need to accept that it WILL come to me. Ive met a few lovely people from starting this Log, I shant name names, but you know who you are!! And I am glad I started it because there is ALOT of GOOOOD info on this Log which would never have come to the surface (haha clogged pore anyone?) if I had not started it.

So good luck everyone with YOUR Spiro journey. Remember we're all so so different, and we need to listen to our bodies and do whats right for us. If we believe something will work for US then most often it will come true for US.

xoxox


Limited dairy/gluten - everything in moderation - lots of healthy fats, and veggies. Too much fruit breaks me out unfortunately.

-------------------------------------------------------
Prescription:

Isotrex - Active ingredient of Accutane, Isotretinoin (0.05%) Week 2

-------------------------------------------------------
Medik8 Beta Cleanse - (morning)
Benzoyl Peroxide (10%)
Acne.org Moisturiser mixed with a little Sweet Almond oil
Micellular water face cleanse Garnier - (night)
Eucerin Toner - sometimes if skin is very dry
Isotrex


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Hi Everyone! Just been reading through all 9 pages of this and decided to join this website so I could join in the chat!! wavey.gif

I have been on 50mg of spironolactone for a week now. It was an absolute nightmare trying to get it prescribed in England, it seems here its rarely used for acne, and i had to go to the dermatologist with an arm load of research id gathered and a very persuasive pre-planned speech. She eventually agreed to let me try it but wanted me to have blood tests to check my potassium levels and hormones.

So, a bit of background, iv had acne since i was 11, im now 26. Iv done lots of antibiotics, dianette, yasmin, accutane 3 times, n litle laser treatment, duac, differin, epiduo, dalacin-t, benzoyl peroxide, paula's choice salicylic acid, dairy free diet, gluten free diet, sugar free diet, wild oregano oil. Basically, iv done everything! I had success with accutane but only whilst I was on it, a few months after id come off it my skin would break out again. I also had some success with dianette but my sister got a blood clot from the contraceptive pill and iv now been told i'm never allowed it again as i may have a genetic pre-disposition towards blood clots.

So the last few years iv been trying to cope by gently cleansing and using a combination of epiduo and duac, but things really got out of control recently. I had read a lot about spiro and had asked the doctor about it a few years back but she looked at me like i was an idiot and said it wasn't an acne drug. So anyway, this time i was determined to be taken seriously, and by some miracle i actually got prescribed it!

So right, its been a week at 50mg and so far i havn't really noticed anything. Had a few headaches but nothing major.

Just wanna thanks all you girls for all your information on here, it's been great for me to read as i'm just starting out on it! Really praying this tablet will be my holy grail!!!!! Il keep you updated!

Abby xxx

Hey Abby, welcome to my Log. Im happy you actually read through all the information!

Good luck and do keep us updated smile.png

>I wish I was feeling like I was starting to heal. I am not sure I am on the downhill yet....its so hard to gauge. I have definitely been purging a lot lately, and actually since the microderm on Thursday, Friday evening a whole ton of clogged pores (like 8-10) around my jaw area looked real near the surface, and so I gently squeezed and they all kinda just came out. Additionally, this morning 2 clogs on my left cheek bone were looking kinda red/swollen and came out with some squeezes. None of them really left red marks so....im thinking its a lot easier to squeeze stuff out when not on retin a and maybe the microderm helped loosen stuff. I still have so many other clogs on my cheeks bones though and on the back of my jaw, and its so weird cause they're in the exact same place and pattern on each side of my face. I am thinking of rotating SA and retin a every other night so that maybe the SA helped dry stuff up that Retin a is trying to bring up. If I attempt another extraction appt next month I'll take a break from the retin a again. I really feel like the extractions can help since my issue is mostly tiny bumps that love to hang out under the skin. It just sucks getting them to come to the surface. I wonder what makes the difference between ones that come to the surface and make the skin red, swollena nd tender, and others that just kind push the little clog up and out without any irritation. Kelsey have you experienced both of this happening in your purging?

In other news, my labs came in today. All my thyroid came in totally normal, estrogen normal, but my testosterone is really low. I didn't really expect that. If anything I would have though it to be high since all my life I have been thin with very little fat (low testosterone usually causes the opposite of this and make it hard for women to loose weight, especially fat) and have had oily skin. Unfortunately I don't have hormone tests from before I was on Spiro, so I am wondering if the Spiro is dropping my testosterone so low and if it could have even had that much of an effect in 2 weeks....my doc will be talking to me about it on Monday.


PM - Clean face with water and cotton rounds. Spot treat with Finacea.
AM- Wash face with Aveeno Gentle Foaming Cleanser and apply Sanitas Oil Free moisturizer
30mg Absorbica for 8 months


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