New Acne Scar Treatment

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well 700 for a 5% improvement.... :P

Do you have any scars on your nose?

How are the boxscars doing?



and lasers are expensive because the price of the machines needed is really expensive so the doctor charges high to cover his costs .

We're just doing accupuncture here so lol

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bloodwar44:

no scars on nose, only on mid and upper cheeks and temple area and in between ... somewhat similar to OP in terms of severity

the moderate-to-deep box scars improved about 30% two weeks after 4th treatment, but optimal healing time is more like a few months so it should look better (my 5th treatment was done at the end of 2nd week)

its hard to describe improvement as a percentage bc it varies, but 2 weeks after 4th treatment there was an *average* improvement of 30 to 40%

2-3 months after 5th treatment, i should be seeing an average of 50% improvement (this is a conservative guess based on how i've been healing so far)

i was only aiming for 20% so pretty happy up to this point

it's not really acupuncture, although they do use needles, the needles are used in a completely different way

each treatment takes about 1 to 1.5 hours

so basically looking at 50% improvement for about $3k

talking economics, i think most of the cost is eaten up by time (no machines like in fraxel) as well as skill and knowledge of technique (there are only possibly like 5-10 practices in the world that specialize in using needles for acne scars, all in korea)

If u have a very few deep scars, the cost my guess should be much lower (closer to $300 maybe?) ... but u would need more visits (possibly 6-10 treatments)

If unsure or skeptical, get a native Korean speaker saavy with using naver.com (and call) to research for u

Im a noob to cora therapy as well and can only talk about my experience so far

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hmmm , im planning on doing it for the nose where my deepest scars are. They did tell me it would be harder for the nose but not sure how much harder.

Also, for your scars. is the surface of the scar better now? Or do they look like crap scar skin? (not considering the indents jsut the texture of the skin itself)

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hmmm , im planning on doing it for the nose where my deepest scars are. They did tell me it would be harder for the nose but not sure how much harder.

Also, for your scars. is the surface of the scar better now? Or do they look like crap scar skin? (not considering the indents jsut the texture of the skin itself)

I'm no dermatoglist but I'm guessing the nose has less collagen development, so I guess it makes sense.

If you want, I can take a few snapshots of their marketing material that explains cora therapy (pm me your email). It's in Korean though but you'll understand more clearly after seeing the diagrams in the book.

The surface is almost untouched. It's the same skin so it should be the same texture. The surface of the scar is "raised" but this occurs from underneath when the pins agitate the dermis (a few layers below the skin, not the outer layer) which promote collagen development.

Probably a terrible analogy but think of a moon crater (scar). Pretend the center of the crater is slowly being pushed upward (like magma pushing upwards as it does for a volcano), so it raises at the center (with each treatment). Sorry, my explanation may be bad ... hehe.

Just wanted to clarify how I use percentages - 30% vs. 50%, which varies for people. For myself, 30% improvement would only be noticeable by yourself and people close to you like family and close friends. 50% improvement should be noticed by people you see occassionally like your boss maybe or neighbor. Point is that there is improvement but will not be 100% perfect and smooth.

I have only 3-4 somewhat moderately deep scars (they are not super deep but deeper than my other scars). 5 treatments should improve these deeper ones ranging from 20-40% The smaller ones I'm seeing definitely over 50% (which there are more of). This is after 5 treatments. For scars on nose, it may require more treatments (this is a guess based on my treatment).

I already indirectly answered your question previously, but my skin texture is the same as before (because it's the same skin).

There is redness after each treatment (on the treated areas) but that dissipates over a period of 1-3 weeks (for me it has taken around 1.5 weeks for redness to reduce down to around 20% ... and probably another 2-3 weeks to be completely gone).

If I wanted to hit 70-90% for the deep scars, I would probably go for 6 - 8 treatments (but this totally depends on the person). Doctor said everyone is different. I also have a feeling that # of treatments could be reduced if the doctor is more aggressive with the cora therapy.

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would you say that the pictures on their site are a lie? I'm looking at the nose one , and honestly it seems pretty decent

likely real but obviously they will only be posting their best work (it's advertising)

for extremely deep (and/or difficult) scars, would very likely need much more than 5 treatments

... the issue is healing time. 7-9 treatments with minimal healing time of 2-3 weeks between treatments. looking at 14-27 weeks.

with so many treatments, it starts to get very expensive

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Hi all,

I came across this thread recently when I was researching about cora therapy.

For those who have received treatment in Korea, could you help to share how they go about doing the subcision undermining?

Do they pinch the area and insert the 24G~26G needle size horizontally then do the fanning motion?

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This seems similar to Cosmetic Acupuncture or Facial Rejuvenation that's offered in the US. Although I guess they are much more aggressive to break up scar tissue underneath the skin.

From what I've researched, the American Cosmetic Acupuncture Association website seems to be dead. So not sure what happened to them. Probably had to shut down due to liability problems and not being licensed doctors. Or pressure from plastic surgeons and dermatologists whose practice they're encroaching on. Acupuncturists in the U.S. are not doctors and are only L.Ac. or licensed acupuncturists.

I'm guessing the Korean version is a more advanced one combined with lasers/other traditional scar treatments. The majority of the cost is probably due to labor, to micromanage the needles to break up tissue. To get skilled acupuncturists with experience to treat your scars you'd probably have to go to Korea.

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Can anybody tell how to do it self?

And how does it works? I don't get it...

What the difference between subcision or needling and this technique?

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Hello guys! I'm in Seoul now and had my first Cora therapy done yesterday. I came from Russia after reading this post.  Korea is my last hope, I have done a lot for my scars and condition of my skin is just terrible. I have a lot of deep scars. Doctor told me that he will do his best to get the best result and promised 5-10% of improvement after each time. I'm planning to get 5 procedures and if I see improvement I will come again. 

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Just a word of advice.... it is always the METHOD of treatment that gives you the best results. Scar revision is based on 3 main factors- skin type ( skin colour), scar type (box car, ice pick, rolling, atrophic, tethered, etc...) and downtime. Emerging treatments from Korea include micro needling and RF ( Radiofrequency). There is a device called INFINI RF that can needle up to 3.5 mm deep, 49 needle per pass. and if 200 shots fired, will equate to 10,000 micro channels. RF heat the dermis and collagen, causing scar remodelling. Coupled with PRP, this should be the game changer for 2016. 

Inside information I read on realself.com  

So stay tuned. Exciting stuff

 

Davin Lim 

 

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Hello guys! I think my scars look better even after the first treatment! Looking forward to my second one on next Monday! :)

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On 1/6/2016, 10:56:12, Lalena said:

Hello guys! I think my scars look better even after the first treatment! Looking forward to my second one on next Monday! :)

congrats :) hope u do well ....

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On 9 января 2016 г., 17:16:14, foreveralone said:
congrats :) hope u do well ....

Thanks! Yes, I do! I'm waiting for my second treatment tomorrow :)

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On 1/10/2016 at 8:21 AM, Lalena said:

Thanks! Yes, I do! I'm waiting for my second treatment tomorrow :)
Any updates

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2 hours ago, Binga said:
On 10 января 2016 г. at 10:21 PM, Lalena said:

Thanks! Yes, I do! I'm waiting for my second treatment tomorrow :)
Any updates

My last 5th treatment was done on Saturday. I would like to get 1-2 more, but I can stay in Korea without a visa only for 60 days every 6 months. So, tomorrow I'm going back home. At the moment I can't say that I see visible improvement because I had only 10-14 days between the procedures and it's hard to see something when your face is swollen and has red marks. The doctor said that I will see final result only after 2-3 months. And he promised that I will see it for sure :) My scars are deep and old, so, as doctor told me, the scars tissue is very hard to cut and I need more procedures than their usual patients do ( usually they recommend 5-6). He recommends me 4-5 procedures more. I think , I will come back in September to
continue the treatment.
i will keep you informed about my progress.
Sorry for my English, I'm still learning the language and don't speak well. 
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Hey Lalena,

I was wondering if you've seen any more improvement with your scarring since your last treatment. And about what percent you'd say your scars have improved. Thanks!

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