Solutions To Adult Acne? Alternatives To Accutane? B5 & L-Carnitine? Light Therapy?

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So here's my situation: I'm 24, out in the professional world, and having adult acne is nothing short of a nightmare. I have very sensitive skin, which often appears red and inflamed at the onset of any blemish. I get painful cystic bumps and my skin always looks and feels very oily and greasy.

I have been researching and considering Accutane for the past 6 months but presently deal with dry eyes - made drier from LASIK surgery one year ago - and so I have been hesitant to proceed.

In the meantime I have been considering similar but realistic solutions. Right now I'm currently on 115 mg of Solodyn, which helps with the cystic acne but by no means has been a cure. Along with that, I take Nicomide (an expensive prescription Vitamin B and Zinc supplement), which, so far in the course of a month, seems to have only provided minimal relief.

Finally, I've recently begun taking Pantethine (the active ingredient in Vitamin B5) (450 mg, twice daily) but my skin is still very oily. I've read about L-Carnitine and how it's suppose to enhance the effects of Pantethine and so I am considering that as well.

This is all very frustrating, very overwhelming, and I just want a solution - not researching and experimenting well into my late 20s. Anyway can anyone provide any insight? Has anything helped? Has anyone ever considered realistic alternatives to Accutane that have worked? Any help would be well appreciated.

I am a 24 year old male.

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Supplements: Vitamin D3, krill oil, zinc, and comprehensive detox protocol by Bio-Botanical Research. 

Diet: 100% paleo since circa 2014. Recently began including grass-fed liver; bone broth; fermented foods; and more greens into my diet. I cannot stress enough that healing your gut is critical to overcoming acne and all other related health issues. Sleep, exercise, stress management, and social interaction are also very important.

Status as of 04/15/2016: Renu 28 honestly seems to have helped my skin. Usually I am very skeptical of topical treatments because acne is the result of hidden internal stressors (hormones, gut bacteria, food sensitivities, blood sugar response, etc.) but this seems to have provided some level of relief.


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Pantothen works because it contains B5. B5 is a weak anti-androgen. If you want better results, use a stronger anti-androgen.

There are many natural ones available over the counter. Saw palmetto, stinging nettle, pygeum, and pumpkin seed oil are the most common.

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Pantothen works because it contains B5. B5 is a weak anti-androgen. If you want better results, use a stronger anti-androgen.

There are many natural ones available over the counter. Saw palmetto, stinging nettle, pygeum, and pumpkin seed oil are the most common.

Hmm as a male the idea of an anti-androgen kind of freaks me out.

Pantothen seems interesting but I wonder if there's any real difference between just taking Pantethine and L-Cartinine. I've been on Nicomide (B5 and Zinc) for a month and have noticed absolutely no difference. I also started taking Pantethine (2 x 450 mg / day) for about a week now and have noticed no difference. I'm hoping that adding L-Cartinine will help.


Current Health Strategy

Supplements: Vitamin D3, krill oil, zinc, and comprehensive detox protocol by Bio-Botanical Research. 

Diet: 100% paleo since circa 2014. Recently began including grass-fed liver; bone broth; fermented foods; and more greens into my diet. I cannot stress enough that healing your gut is critical to overcoming acne and all other related health issues. Sleep, exercise, stress management, and social interaction are also very important.

Status as of 04/15/2016: Renu 28 honestly seems to have helped my skin. Usually I am very skeptical of topical treatments because acne is the result of hidden internal stressors (hormones, gut bacteria, food sensitivities, blood sugar response, etc.) but this seems to have provided some level of relief.


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Pantothen works because it contains B5. B5 is a weak anti-androgen. If you want better results, use a stronger anti-androgen.

There are many natural ones available over the counter. Saw palmetto, stinging nettle, pygeum, and pumpkin seed oil are the most common.

Hmm as a male the idea of an anti-androgen kind of freaks me out.

Pantothen seems interesting but I wonder if there's any real difference between just taking Pantethine and L-Cartinine. I've been on Nicomide (B5 and Zinc) for a month and have noticed absolutely no difference. I also started taking Pantethine (2 x 450 mg / day) for about a week now and have noticed no difference. I'm hoping that adding L-Cartinine will help.

That's what I'm saying...if you're taking Pantethine you're already taking an anti-androgen...that's what Pantethine is...


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Pantothen works because it contains B5. B5 is a weak anti-androgen. If you want better results, use a stronger anti-androgen.

There are many natural ones available over the counter. Saw palmetto, stinging nettle, pygeum, and pumpkin seed oil are the most common.

Hmm as a male the idea of an anti-androgen kind of freaks me out.

Pantothen seems interesting but I wonder if there's any real difference between just taking Pantethine and L-Cartinine. I've been on Nicomide (B5 and Zinc) for a month and have noticed absolutely no difference. I also started taking Pantethine (2 x 450 mg / day) for about a week now and have noticed no difference. I'm hoping that adding L-Cartinine will help.

That's what I'm saying...if you're taking Pantethine you're already taking an anti-androgen...that's what Pantethine is...

While I'm still somewhat uneasy about that whole idea, pantethine is a natural and very mild anti-androgen. Something like Accutane would be worse.


Current Health Strategy

Supplements: Vitamin D3, krill oil, zinc, and comprehensive detox protocol by Bio-Botanical Research. 

Diet: 100% paleo since circa 2014. Recently began including grass-fed liver; bone broth; fermented foods; and more greens into my diet. I cannot stress enough that healing your gut is critical to overcoming acne and all other related health issues. Sleep, exercise, stress management, and social interaction are also very important.

Status as of 04/15/2016: Renu 28 honestly seems to have helped my skin. Usually I am very skeptical of topical treatments because acne is the result of hidden internal stressors (hormones, gut bacteria, food sensitivities, blood sugar response, etc.) but this seems to have provided some level of relief.


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Pantothen works because it contains B5. B5 is a weak anti-androgen. If you want better results, use a stronger anti-androgen.

There are many natural ones available over the counter. Saw palmetto, stinging nettle, pygeum, and pumpkin seed oil are the most common.

Hmm as a male the idea of an anti-androgen kind of freaks me out.

Pantothen seems interesting but I wonder if there's any real difference between just taking Pantethine and L-Cartinine. I've been on Nicomide (B5 and Zinc) for a month and have noticed absolutely no difference. I also started taking Pantethine (2 x 450 mg / day) for about a week now and have noticed no difference. I'm hoping that adding L-Cartinine will help.

That's what I'm saying...if you're taking Pantethine you're already taking an anti-androgen...that's what Pantethine is...

While I'm still somewhat uneasy about that whole idea, pantethine is a natural and very mild anti-androgen. Something like Accutane would be worse.

Uhh I didn't recommend Accutane, I recommended Saw Palmetto, which is another natural anti-androgen. It's often used for male prostate health. But do what you want.


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Pantothen works because it contains B5. B5 is a weak anti-androgen. If you want better results, use a stronger anti-androgen.

There are many natural ones available over the counter. Saw palmetto, stinging nettle, pygeum, and pumpkin seed oil are the most common.

Hmm as a male the idea of an anti-androgen kind of freaks me out.

Pantothen seems interesting but I wonder if there's any real difference between just taking Pantethine and L-Cartinine. I've been on Nicomide (B5 and Zinc) for a month and have noticed absolutely no difference. I also started taking Pantethine (2 x 450 mg / day) for about a week now and have noticed no difference. I'm hoping that adding L-Cartinine will help.

That's what I'm saying...if you're taking Pantethine you're already taking an anti-androgen...that's what Pantethine is...

While I'm still somewhat uneasy about that whole idea, pantethine is a natural and very mild anti-androgen. Something like Accutane would be worse.

Uhh I didn't recommend Accutane, I recommended Saw Palmetto, which is another natural anti-androgen. It's often used for male prostate health. But do what you want.

I know you didn't suggest Accutane. The reason I mention Accutane is because I feel like in the end it will be my only choice.


Current Health Strategy

Supplements: Vitamin D3, krill oil, zinc, and comprehensive detox protocol by Bio-Botanical Research. 

Diet: 100% paleo since circa 2014. Recently began including grass-fed liver; bone broth; fermented foods; and more greens into my diet. I cannot stress enough that healing your gut is critical to overcoming acne and all other related health issues. Sleep, exercise, stress management, and social interaction are also very important.

Status as of 04/15/2016: Renu 28 honestly seems to have helped my skin. Usually I am very skeptical of topical treatments because acne is the result of hidden internal stressors (hormones, gut bacteria, food sensitivities, blood sugar response, etc.) but this seems to have provided some level of relief.


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Sorry for the revival of this topic, but wanted to put my 2 cents in...First off I don't think B5 is considered an anti-androgen, yes saw palmetto is. Now I've read research and Taking 3 times daily of B5 450mg along side with 1 L-caritine pill will help acne. I'm doing it myself and well see a slight change its hard to say.

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Hi! Did you decide what to do? Just a heads up that I have just had to stop my accutane course due to unbearably dry eyes and mood swings - the chances of accutane making your eyes drier are quite high, and I know how miserable that can be! In the end I decided that I'd rather have acne (which I'm hoping I can tackle with a low sugar diet/other medication!) than damaged eyes which could potentially prevent me from following my career dreams :) Good luck to you x

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18 hours ago, Yasmine93 said:

Hi! Did you decide what to do? Just a heads up that I have just had to stop my accutane course due to unbearably dry eyes and mood swings - the chances of accutane making your eyes drier are quite high, and I know how miserable that can be! In the end I decided that I'd rather have acne (which I'm hoping I can tackle with a low sugar diet/other medication!) than damaged eyes which could potentially prevent me from following my career dreams :) Good luck to you x

STAY AWAY FROM ACCUTANE. I am an X-accutane user. The drug is dangerous! I've been on 2 courses. There are other alternatives to beating acne. YES, low sugar diet or complete elimination of sugar will reduce acne if not eliminate it completely. Supplement and stick to WHOLE foods. Eliminate processed foods as well.
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13 minutes ago, Catalyst123 said:
18 hours ago, Yasmine93 said:

Hi! Did you decide what to do? Just a heads up that I have just had to stop my accutane course due to unbearably dry eyes and mood swings - the chances of accutane making your eyes drier are quite high, and I know how miserable that can be! In the end I decided that I'd rather have acne (which I'm hoping I can tackle with a low sugar diet/other medication!) than damaged eyes which could potentially prevent me from following my career dreams :) Good luck to you x

STAY AWAY FROM ACCUTANE. I am an X-accutane user. The drug is dangerous! I've been on 2 courses. There are other alternatives to beating acne. YES, low sugar diet or complete elimination of sugar will reduce acne if not eliminate it completely. Supplement and stick to WHOLE foods. Eliminate processed foods as well.
Yes, it's a dangerous drug. That's why it has all the warnings and large existing standards to taking the drug. The drug is designed as a last resort, not a first or near that. But dermatologists have misunderstood that concept and it's a price we all have to pay. I'm also an ex-accutane user and I've had the worst side effects possible. Luckily, I quit the drug 2 months in.

You're right Catalyst123, there's alternative methods that work better long-term than Accutane. That's why this community is here, to discover some of those options and I hope to post about that very soon. 
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On 7/30/2016 at 9:13 PM, AcneScience said:
Yes, it's a dangerous drug. That's why it has all the warnings and large existing standards to taking the drug. The drug is designed as a last resort, not a first or near that. But dermatologists have misunderstood that concept and it's a price we all have to pay. I'm also an ex-accutane user and I've had the worst side effects possible. Luckily, I quit the drug 2 months in.

You're right Catalyst123, there's alternative methods that work better long-term than Accutane. That's why this community is here, to discover some of those options and I hope to post about that very soon. 
Well I'm glad you stopped in time and did your due diligence. I have healed  the side effects of accutane through probiotics and intense supplementation.

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