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#1 vincevega

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 03:45 AM

I went to a dermatologist today. First time I've been there, I had to find a new one as my previous two were completely useless at solving my problems. My problems being extremely oily skin and blackheads.

So, this is exactly what I told him: I want to fix my extremely oily skin and get rid of blackheads. I've tried epiduo gel, i've tried differin gel. I've tried antibiotics and I've tried a whole bunch of mattifyers and cleansers, including bioderma's mattifying cream and paula's choice her mattifying solution (which, according to their website is clinically proven to keep your skin matte for up to 6-8 hours.. in reality it barely lasts an hour on my skin). I've also tried a Vitamin B5 overdose.. which actually helped slow down my oil production significantly (slowed it down an hour or 2), but due to the cost and unknown side-effects of this, I quit. My question is, should I try a really low-dose course of accutane? I've heard so many positive results of this...

He immediately replied by telling me vitamin B5 does not work for oily skin whatsoever. I told him, it does because... well, it worked. He ignored it. Then he said differin should work for me. I told him, no, I've tried it for months without it working. Then he said BioDerma have a good range of oil-curbing products. I said it sounds like every other product out there, promising a lot but delivering very little. Then I asked him again, what about accutane? His answer: accutane isn't meant to dry up your skin, it's just a side-effect. I replied by telling him I don't care if it's a side-effect, as long as it gets the job done. Once again he said the only solution for me is BioDerma's products...

So I told him about all the positive reviews and success stories I've read from people in the same position as me who've gone on a low-dose accutane course and got good results. He replied by telling me the internet is full of lies and people wanting to make money. Why would people suffering with the same condition as me lie about something like that??

Pardon my French but how the fuck do these people get a job? He clearly does not have a clue what he's talking about. He claims a couple of topical cosmetic products will reduce my oil production and claimed Vitamin B5 does absolutely nothing for oily skin. Both claims just complete nonsense - I've tried god knows how many topical products and none have diminished my oil production at all, yet B5 actually did to something.

I felt like punching him in the face, the smug happyflowers. That little visit, which did absolutely nothing for me and taught me nothing I didn't already know, cost me 33 euros. 33 fucking euros for listening to a bunch of shitty excuses and lies.

So fucking fed up having to deal with these people.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 04:32 AM

33 euros is cheap. mine costs 110 per visit!

you obviously are frustrated, but most dermatologists know what they are talking about. if you're not happy, go to someone else simple as that. i would take their advice seriously though. they arent conspiring against you, and all of them would have your interests at heart. it might be that he's cautious of prescribing accutane for oily skin problems when other treatments might also do the job just as effectively.

youve got to trust dermatologists at the end of the day, because the vast majority do know what they are talking about. they are experts in their field. you should take their words with more credibility then any people on internet forums.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 07:16 AM

Zinc, vitamin A and E are required for a healthy skin. Try to increase food intake high on those.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 03:35 PM

33 euros is cheap. mine costs 110 per visit!

you obviously are frustrated, but most dermatologists know what they are talking about. if you're not happy, go to someone else simple as that. i would take their advice seriously though. they arent conspiring against you, and all of them would have your interests at heart. it might be that he's cautious of prescribing accutane for oily skin problems when other treatments might also do the job just as effectively.

youve got to trust dermatologists at the end of the day, because the vast majority do know what they are talking about. they are experts in their field. you should take their words with more credibility then any people on internet forums.

This one did not have a single clue what he was talking about. I will be going to someone else, but it's still cost me time and money to listen to a load of shit. Why the fuck would I take his advice seriously? The man knew less about oily skin than I do. There are no other treatments out there that do the job just as effectively. None. Unless you know of one?

And again, you don't seem to have read my post at all. I do not care if somebody is supposedly an expert in his or her field... what it comes down to is; he didn't have a clue how to effectively treat oily skin, couldn't answer my questions, didn't respond when I told him his suggestions simply would not work, simply did not have any knowledge of accutane being described for oily skin or vitamin B5 and ended up suggesting I buy a shitload of cosmetic products. This does constitute an expert.. unless they changed the meaning of the word expert when I wasn't paying attention.

(Also, I'm specifically talking about my experiences here, I know there's probably good dermatologists out there, hence why I said some)

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 10:48 AM

My advice!

I'm currently on my sixth month of accutane and I was taking zinc for a couple of months and that dried out my skin by a lot - I think I actually was zinc deficient.

Zinc definitely works at regulating your oil production and it worked wonders with me - so give that a try for a couple of months. I was on 45 milligrams for about two months and I noticed it working really well after a few weeks. Pick it up from pretty much anywhere, like $10 for 100 capsules (at most!).
Please give it a shot, it worked so well for me. Posted Image

PS. Give it a shot before going back to another dermatologist - there is not much they will be able to do for oily skin except accutane and many won't give it just for oily skin. I hope it works for you!

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 11:31 AM

Thanks mate I'll be down the shops tomorrow to find me some Zinc... if it doesn't have any side-effects, that is. I'll look it up, thanks for the suggestion!

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 10:13 PM

Most doctors do not research or recognize the benefits of non-prescription medications.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:21 AM

Most doctors do not research or recognize the benefits of non-prescription medications.

Sadly, this seems to be the case. They only go by what they're told to go by. Can't believe the last one I went to flat-out denied a vitamin B5 overdose does not help oily skin.... why would I lie about it? I don't expect him to prescribe it, but denying it is just stupid.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 10:10 PM


33 euros is cheap. mine costs 110 per visit!

you obviously are frustrated, but most dermatologists know what they are talking about. if you're not happy, go to someone else simple as that. i would take their advice seriously though. they arent conspiring against you, and all of them would have your interests at heart. it might be that he's cautious of prescribing accutane for oily skin problems when other treatments might also do the job just as effectively.

youve got to trust dermatologists at the end of the day, because the vast majority do know what they are talking about. they are experts in their field. you should take their words with more credibility then any people on internet forums.

This one did not have a single clue what he was talking about. I will be going to someone else, but it's still cost me time and money to listen to a load of shit. Why the fuck would I take his advice seriously? The man knew less about oily skin than I do. There are no other treatments out there that do the job just as effectively. None. Unless you know of one?

And again, you don't seem to have read my post at all. I do not care if somebody is supposedly an expert in his or her field... what it comes down to is; he didn't have a clue how to effectively treat oily skin, couldn't answer my questions, didn't respond when I told him his suggestions simply would not work, simply did not have any knowledge of accutane being described for oily skin or vitamin B5 and ended up suggesting I buy a shitload of cosmetic products. This does constitute an expert.. unless they changed the meaning of the word expert when I wasn't paying attention.

(Also, I'm specifically talking about my experiences here, I know there's probably good dermatologists out there, hence why I said some)


Here is what I've learned about oily skin. Oil comes from within. Topicals don't do much. Accutane doesn't seem to help in the long term for oil reduction, I ignored the posts on here and hoped it would help me but it didn't, but I did have a nice dose of hair loss from accutane. Oil is triggered by male hormones, this is why women who use androgen blocking medications (spiro) usually experience significant oil reduction. Unfortunately for men, using androgen blocking hormones will create feminine characteristics. I don't know if an endocrinologist can help you, but I wouldn't rule it out. I went to one specifically for women for hair and skin issues. I don't know if there is something equivalent for men.