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[Blue09]

So just to clarify, NO ONE- Philly, PJ, Exister, etc actually did Step 2, the Crude Oil. And did anyone try step 3, which is connected to the thyroid, being part of the adrenals someone mentioned above.

 
In your 1st post you said you hadn't seen any hair regrowth yet because it took time. Do you have any regrowth by now?

 
yes 100% hair, 100% acne free


Mis911 is correct by the way. Edgar cayce (where i got the atomidine from) said do not stop any vitamisn immediately because it will cause to great a strain on the system. Glad to see scientific proof of that. Remember that guy from the healthforums who cured his hairloss a few years ago continued taking b5.
 
For those who have money and think it is partially conencted to the thyroid, maybe you should try atomidine+ acupuncture. Acupuncture is suppose to the correct the endrocrine system which the thyroid is part of.

Itsover do you think that the atomidine was what cured the hairloss rather than the l-cysteine as I feel like its not doing anything. Do you still take l-cysteine and atomidine. Also how much atomidine did you take. You seem to be the only 1 out of hundreds of people that have cured this.

Also a guy on a steroid forum told me to take bimatoprost in gel form and it will solve my problem. Those guys use a lot of b5 to stop acne on cycle.

[nakedsmurf]

I think the reason I cleared up when I first started taking B5 was because I dropped all my other supplements to do so. Now that I've dropped B5 too, and am taking nothing but an anti-histamine, my skin is getting clearer than ever.

How many mg's or grams are you taking ?

[Exister]

I think the reason I cleared up when I first started taking B5 was because I dropped all my other supplements to do so. Now that I've dropped B5 too, and am taking nothing but an anti-histamine, my skin is getting clearer than ever.

How many mg's or grams are you taking ?

 

0, which is why I'm clear. I was taking anywhere from 500 mg to 9 g per day over the last few months.

[itsoveryes]

Guys who are experiencing hairloss is cause they arent taking other vitamin Bs.

I been on 9 grams ..almost done with month 3
No acne no oils no hairloss
Take a complete vitamin b pill to avoid hair damage
Plus I heard people take b5 for hairloss

 

Are you also taking l-cysteine/NAC or l-carnitine?

So do you think If I start taking say 500mg b5 again it may help even tho I havnt taken any for months?

So do you think If I start taking say 500mg b5 again it may help even tho I havnt taken any for months?

 

You could try it. If you are still experiencing hairloss I don't see how it could hurt you anymore, but everyone's body is different. For example Nakedsmurf has been taking a b complex for months, while b complex did nothing (positive) for others.

[mis911]

After doing some reading up on crude oil I've decided against it, in my opinion there isn't enough people that have tried it with positive results

for me to include it in my regime.

All I could find is 2or3 reviews that didn't seem authentic, & these few reviews I found were written years ago, if this treatment was released years

ago & hasn't taken off by now well....?

Plus the negative's discussed on the few forums I read seemed to outweigh the positive's in my opinion.

But anyone else that's game to try this please share your results so others may benefit.

[phillyeagles91]

Blue09 any updates from your doctor's visit?

[Blue09]

Went to docs but he didn't have a clue and never heard of b5 hairloss, so waste of time really but got blood test next week

[phillyeagles91]

Do you know what you're getting tested? Make sure to ask for those results. If you're getting vitamin levels tested, it may be a waste of time. 

 

Like stated above, you wanna get cortisol, testosterone/DHT, and thyroid tested....best of luck

[Blue09]

To be honest I kind of rule out cortisol and dht as I use blockers when on cycle and my hair never changes, but thyroid yes

[AAAdrien]

According to my humble researches the Pantothenic Acid / hairloss connection might be explained by two mechanisms :

 

1) Hypercalcemia :  1 g Calcium Pantothenate = 90 mg Calcium, so taking very high doses like 10/20 g everyday will deplete Magnesium over time, and Magnesium deficiency is linked to hair loss.

 

2) Cysteine depletion : Coenzyme A is synthesized from Pantothenate and Cysteine, large amounts of Pantothenic Acid would bind to all the Cysteine present in the body and lead to its depletion. Cysteine being particularly important for hair, hair loss would occur.

 

I have insanely oily skin myself and I'm planning to tackle it like this :

 

1 g Calcium Pantothenate + 2 g Cysteine /day

 

or 

 

1 g Calcium Pantothenate + 0.5 g Panthetine + 2.5 g Cysteine /day

 

or 

 

1 g Calcium Pantothenate + 0.5 g Panthetine + 2 g Cysteine per day + 0.5 g NAC /day

 

The purpose of adding two cysteine derivatives like cysteamine (contained in Panthetine) and NAC is to increase the chance of absorption of that Amino Acid.  

 

Tell me what you guys think. Thanks.

 

Sincerely,

Adrien, from France

[mis911]

Hello Adrien & welcome, I'm also quite new to this forum

I'm very fascinated by your research & choices of dosage.

May I ask...

Why did you choose the 2:1 reatio in regards to taking more cysteine/nac then b5?

This forum mostly discusses a 1:2 ratio, which is what I have been following.

Also

What is your opinion on the absorption of L cysteine to NAC?

As with the research I've done I've come to the conclusion that NAC is the best form to take, the least toxic, & the most binding,

I have attatched this info in previous quotes written in this forum.

And finally..

Since you discussed magnesium as also being depleted while dosing on b5,

why have you not included it in your regime?

Oh & if you could please include the sources/links of you research,

would love to read into them myself.

Especially in regards to the doses of calcium depleting magnesium

as im taking high doses of calcium ascorbate along with the b5,

but I've also recently included magnesium ascorbate, but wasn't planing on staying on it long

[patientx]

as im taking high doses of calcium ascorbate along with the b5,

but I've also recently included magnesium ascorbate, but wasn't planing on staying on it long

 

Did you take calcium ascorbate & magnesium ascorbate for your acne? Aren't they just vitamin C?

[mis911]

I'm taking them for overall health aswell as an acne remedy, it is so far providing some assistance at minimising & shifting the breakouts.

I alternate between the calcium & magnesium ascorbate daily, yes they are both forms of vitamin C or mineral ascorbates.

 

Mineral ascorbates: When mineral salts of ascorbic acid are taken, BOTH the ascorbic acid and the mineral appear to be well-absorbed, so it is important to take into consideration the dose of the mineral accompanying the ascorbic acid when taking large doses of mineral ascorbates.

 

Hence why I chose those two forms of mineral ascorbate's, to get my vitamin C along with a suitable amount of calcium & magnesium dosage.

 

So I answered yours...will you answer mine?

Patientx please forgive my last statement

"So I answered yours...will you answer mine?"

 

I thought it was AAAdrien that wrote that comment, which is why I said that, please diregard

According to my humble researches the Pantothenic Acid / hairloss connection might be explained by two mechanisms :

 

1) Hypercalcemia :  1 g Calcium Pantothenate = 90 mg Calcium, so taking very high doses like 10/20 g everyday will deplete Magnesium over time, and Magnesium deficiency is linked to hair loss.

 

2) Cysteine depletion : Coenzyme A is synthesized from Pantothenate and Cysteine, large amounts of Pantothenic Acid would bind to all the Cysteine present in the body and lead to its depletion. Cysteine being particularly important for hair, hair loss would occur.

 

I have insanely oily skin myself and I'm planning to tackle it like this :

 

1 g Calcium Pantothenate + 2 g Cysteine /day

 

or 

 

1 g Calcium Pantothenate + 0.5 g Panthetine + 2.5 g Cysteine /day

 

or 

 

1 g Calcium Pantothenate + 0.5 g Panthetine + 2 g Cysteine per day + 0.5 g NAC /day

 

The purpose of adding two cysteine derivatives like cysteamine (contained in Panthetine) and NAC is to increase the chance of absorption of that Amino Acid.  

 

Tell me what you guys think. Thanks.

 

Sincerely,

Adrien, from France

Hello Adrien & welcome, I'm also quite new to this forum

I'm very fascinated by your research & choices of dosage.

May I ask...

Why did you choose the 2:1 reatio in regards to taking more cysteine/nac then b5?

This forum mostly discusses a 1:2 ratio, which is what I have been following.

Also

What is your opinion on the absorption of L cysteine to NAC?

As with the research I've done I've come to the conclusion that NAC is the best form to take, the least toxic, & the most binding,

I have attatched this info in previous quotes written in this forum.

And finally..

Since you discussed magnesium as also being depleted while dosing on b5,

why have you not included it in your regime?

Oh & if you could please include the sources/links of you research,

would love to read into them myself.

Especially in regards to the doses of calcium depleting magnesium

as im taking high doses of calcium ascorbate along with the b5,

but I've also recently included magnesium ascorbate, but wasn't planing on staying on it long

[munsterfan]

Hey guys,

So I have been taking finestride for hair loss for about 8 months with great results. Hair has got much thicker.

3 Days ago I started taking 1.5g of B5 a day for acne.

I have just come across this forum and now I'm a little worried.

I emailed the doc who prescribed the finestride and he said it should be fine to take the b5 as long as I keep going with the finestride.

Be interested to hear your opinions? Thanks!!!

[Blue09]

DON'T TAKE B5 it fucked my life up my hair is really really thin now I may have to shave it all off, except for the op know one else has found a cure out of hundreds of people. Don't take anymore than 1.5 if you really do want to take it

[pjjordan]

I wouldn't take B5 at any dose higher than .5 grams per day. A girl on another forum said she lost her hair by using 1 gram a day and it never grew back. 

 

It ruined my hair. Still looking for a cure. I am going to book a doctors apt and get tests done on thyroid/ hormones. 

 

I meant to mention this earlier but I have been on Propecia (Finasteride) and Rogain for 6 months and I am still shedding like crazy and it has not slowed down...

Edited by pjjordan, 25 March 2013 - 01:19 PM.

[Blue09]

I was thinking about regain but I guess ill think again, I read earlier that a guy reduced his his shedding massively by using acetyl-l-carnitine

[munsterfan]

Cheers. Glad I found this forum. I guess I'll cut it out completely. Not worth the risk in my opinion. Have to find something else to help with the acne I guess. Thanks a million guys!

[nakedsmurf]

I been taking. B5 9 grams for about 3 months now everyday and I don't have any hairs falling out ....if anything I think it makes my hair look healthy plus no more acne. I rather take b5 than Accutane.

[Blue09]

Mate I was the same I took about 6 grams for about 7 months and then it began and it hasn't stopped since and I havnt taken b5 for about 8 months now, 9 grams is way too much man ur just messing yourself up but it's your choice at the end of the day

Cheers. Glad I found this forum. I guess I'll cut it out completely. Not worth the risk in my opinion. Have to find something else to help with the acne I guess. Thanks a million guys!

Try msm powder for acne that's what I've been using and I find it pretty good, also get some real African black soap form eBay or somewhere that also helps.