Vitamin B5 Hairloss- Cured (Pictures)

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Okay, today I have been taking 300 mg/day Vitamin b1 for 1 week.

Im gonna start from beginning, explaining my situation. Took Vitamin b5 15-20 g a day for 2 years I think. 6 months ago I started shedding, thats maybe 4-7 months after quitting b5, not really sure. My scalp itched really bad, flaking etcetc. Doctor told me I might have seb.dermatitis. I started searching internet for hours about my symptoms and I found this site 5 months ago, and I realized this might be the problem. It feels like I tried everything to cure this, lots of different vitamins/minerals, oils/schampos, corticosterioids etc.

3 weeks ago I shaved my hair down to 1mm, looked like I was bald, I have hair but so thin now.

Now my hair is maybe 3cm, and when I pull my hair, not a single strand of hair comes out. I can pull really hard but it doesnt shed. 1-2 months ago when I had same length hair I could easily pull out my hair, all over my head.

I dont even know if I suffer from B5 hairloss or if its something else that caused the dermatitis and shed.

I also don't know if Vitamin B1 is the cause that I dont shed hair at the moment but it does seems positive, since im not shedding atm. I actually think I have slept better since starting B1 too. Now, all I can do is hope that this actually works and I dont start to shed again and get some regrowth/thicken up my hair.

Now my question to tw12. Do you think I should up my b1 dosage? I am willing to do anything you say, what you think is best. I can be your and everyone else here personal guinea pig. I suffered so much from this bullshit that I am willing to do anything that "might" cure this, I don't care if it can do any harm to me.

Holy shit bro your not shedding anymore, so before you started the b1 where you shedding and a week on b1 your not shedding?

Exactly. But i dont wanna tell you all that this WORKS, cause I simply don't know yet, but as I said earlier it does look positive. As im writing this I tried pull out hair 30 times in a row, not one single strand of hair. Thats almost close to a miracle.

At the same time I started Vitamin B1 I also started taking MSM, starting at 1g/day and increasing 1/g every week, gonna go up to 3-5g I think. Google MSM and read about it, it can do wonders to the body.

4. Skin and hair care

The sulfur provided by MSM produces generous quantities of collagen and keratin, both of which are vital for healthy hair and nails. In fact, MSM is often referred to as the ‘beauty mineral’ owing to its ability to add to enhance the thickness and strength of nails as well as hair in a very short span of time. Moreover, research also shows that MSM is quite helpful in the treatment of skin conditions such as:

  • Psoriasis
  • Eczema
  • Rosacea
  • Dermatitis
  • Acne
  • Dandruff

READ THIS. http://www.foodmatters.tv/articles-1/5-important-ways-msm-could-benefit-your-health

1-2 months ago at this same length of hair, my hair felt really hard and brittle. Now it feels soft and nice when I run my hands trough it.

So, the things I have done in the last week that has, well I gotta be able to say IMPROVED my hair (from hard to soft, no shed) is MSM and Vitamin b-1.

But I dont wanna give you guys false hope, I can't be 100% sure this works yet. Try at your own risk is all I can say.

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I mega dosed B5 (10g+) for maybe 1 month or so in summer of 2012. Now my temples have receded quite a bit and front has gotten noticeably thinner. Right now when I put my hand over my head, I always have a few hairs from the front of my head come out. I'm not losing hair as rapidly as I did before (it was INSANE fast before, my mom would go in the kitchen and be like, wtf is all this hair??? lol) but still quite fast.

I will probably start this B1 300mg thing. Would Sulbutiamine (b1-derivative that crosses blood brain barrier) be better perhaps?

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Mike, use the standard b1, the other is not well researched and i dont want u 2 take any risks with it...Elesarx, imvery happy for you my friend, im glad its working for u, but beware sulfur depletes thiamine and depletes copper as well, u are taking too much and it will build up and might ruin eeverything...I urge u to stop it and just continue with the b1, u can up to 500 a day, its safe...CONGRATSSSSSSSSSSS :)

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Mike, use the standard b1, the other is not well researched and i dont want u 2 take any risks with it...Elesarx, imvery happy for you my friend, im glad its working for u, but beware sulfur depletes thiamine and depletes copper as well, u are taking too much and it will build up and might ruin eeverything...I urge u to stop it and just continue with the b1, u can up to 500 a day, its safe...CONGRATSSSSSSSSSSS

Thanks man, will start taking 500mg/day tomorrow. Will report back atleast once a week here guys

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Pay extreme attention to every detail, even with ur general attitude and response to anger for example...Elessarx, i wont be exaggerating to tell u that ur lifestyle will turn 180 degrees...



Report back in 3 days, new things to notice by then...

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Well I am definitely going to try this. Does it have to be 3 x 100 mg, at morning midday and evening, or can it be 1 x 300? I can only find 300 mg tablets, except for online.

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Well I am definitely going to try this. Does it have to be 3 x 100 mg, at morning midday and evening, or can it be 1 x 300? I can only find 300 mg tablets, except for online.

I believe he said it's much better to space them, I got mine from a pharmacy they sold 50mg and 100mg so try have a look there if u have one near to you

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U can split the tablet, it is much much better...U can also take more than 300 if u want to have the results faster, its totally safe...

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Thanks. Found 25 mg versions now. Think I might just split up the 300's in two as i already bought them. Was advised to take them with a b-complex as they otherwise could deplete other vitamins, what are your thoughts on that?

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No, dont do that...After u have finished ur course on b1 u can introduce a very small b2 dose, but not now...

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So tw12 tells all of you that his hair loss will never stop, yet you continue to megadose on b1. Below is a link showing large dose given intravenously caused anaphylactic reactions which are life threatening. There were no oral studies past 200mg/day.

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/thiamin/index.html#safety

I will ask you directly TW12, did you ever even megadose on b5? You state you had/have a metabolic disorder, but this thread is about b5 megadosing.

Also insulin resistance causes hyperglycemia, not hypoglycemia. They are the exact OPPOSITE and b1 has no effect on insulin. If it did, it would be used for diabetes. B12 has an effect in insulin, NOT b1. You admit you have no medical training, and I fear you are putting people in danger by encouraging megadosing which is what got us all here in the first place.

I stopped the b1 when i solved the cortisol and insulin resistance...I know all this from research, i have found that doctors know very very little about basic nutrient interactions and they have been teached how to react to conditions through man made alternatives and not natural vitamins and minerals so u never get cured, but treated instead......Iv been resarching for years now as i have a metabolic condition which is now coming to an end now...I can cure all of you from acne, using natural means ofcourse, by curing i mean CURING not treating but let us first fix this hair loss...My hair loss will never stop as its androgenic but im seeing regrowth from previous sheds...

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So tw12 tells all of you that his hair loss will never stop, yet you continue to megadose on b1. Below is a link showing large dose given intravenously caused anaphylactic reactions which are life threatening. There were no oral studies past 200mg/day.

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/thiamin/index.html#safety

I will ask you directly TW12, did you ever even megadose on b5? You state you had/have a metabolic disorder, but this thread is about b5 megadosing.

Also insulin resistance causes hyperglycemia, not hypoglycemia. They are the exact OPPOSITE and b1 has no effect on insulin. If it did, it would be used for diabetes. B12 has an effect in insulin, NOT b1. You admit you have no medical training, and I fear you are putting people in danger by encouraging megadosing which is what got us all here in the first place.

I stopped the b1 when i solved the cortisol and insulin resistance...I know all this from research, i have found that doctors know very very little about basic nutrient interactions and they have been teached how to react to conditions through man made alternatives and not natural vitamins and minerals so u never get cured, but treated instead......Iv been resarching for years now as i have a metabolic condition which is now coming to an end now...I can cure all of you from acne, using natural means ofcourse, by curing i mean CURING not treating but let us first fix this hair loss...My hair loss will never stop as its androgenic but im seeing regrowth from previous sheds...

Who said insulin resistance causes hypo? i said pantothenic acid leads to insulin resistance and thiamine reverses it...Have i told anyone to take intravenous ?? Thiamine intravenously contain alumunium and that is where the reaction to it stems from... Please stop spreading shit just for the sake of it...I have taken up to 1500mg and if you were informed and read studies you will know that doses of up to 3000mg have been taken daily...Thaimine is in fact used for diabetes but its not mainstream as its not promoted...It can actually treat diabetes and if big companies were not making billions and billions of dollars off treating diabetes synthetically u would have known about it...Im not forcing any1 to try this, im helping and u can see that elserax already saw results, if u want help u can have it, if u dont then u can go on and try finasteride and other useless shit that will turn u into a woman...Other than that dont bother me with ur ignorance...And yes i have suffered from hair loss due to increasing my cortisol further with b5...And i have solved it, just as i will solve the rest of the people whos lives have been miserable ever since they started b5, including u...

In your face, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23715873

Dont u dare accuse me of putting peoples life in stake, im the one helping here, wake up...

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Well said tw12, itsoveryes I think your forgetting that you where the one that told everyone that l-cysteine was the cure which infact did absolutely nothing, tw12 is trying to help like you where back then. your 2 very knowledgeable guys lets stick together and beat this stupid hairloss. I've tried many many vitamins and supplements and minerals and topicals and nothing has worked, if elessarx is seeing results then that's good enough for me, I'd much rather try b1 than fin that's for sure. I have done some research And have seen people doing much much higher doses than what where doing.

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Its crazy, all day at work today i tried pulling some hair out but it just wont come out! I really hope its the b1 thats working.

Also noticed more energy when waking up early this week.

Started 500mg today, lets see if it will continue to improve

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Its crazy, all day at work today i tried pulling some hair out but it just wont come out! I really hope its the b1 thats working.

Also noticed more energy when waking up early this week.

Started 500mg today, lets see if it will continue to improve

Very encouraging. Keep us updated, I will buy the b1 today as well.

I took pictures of my hair wet last night... it's bad, worse than I thought. Front density is horrible and even the crown is becoming bad.

Used to have full head of hair...

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Its crazy, all day at work today i tried pulling some hair out but it just wont come out! I really hope its the b1 thats working.

Also noticed more energy when waking up early this week.

Started 500mg today, lets see if it will continue to improve

That's 1 thing I've noticed too elessarx especially today when I woke up in the morning I was straight up and felt really good for a change normally I'm all groggy and can't be arsed to even move haha also my energy throughout the day has definantly increased I normally have to sit down a lot at work but I've been going strong all day. The b1 is def having an effect on me and today will be my first at 300mg.

Its crazy, all day at work today i tried pulling some hair out but it just wont come out! I really hope its the b1 thats working.

Also noticed more energy when waking up early this week.

Started 500mg today, lets see if it will continue to improve

Very encouraging. Keep us updated, I will buy the b1 today as well.

I took pictures of my hair wet last night... it's bad, worse than I thought. Front density is horrible and even the crown is becoming bad.

Used to have full head of hair...

Yeh trust me we all know that feeling haha I won't even look in the mirror when my hair is wet it just makes me more stressed and I think stress increases cortisol, just try your hardest not to think about it mate. Let's hope tw12 is our saviour haha

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it's so messed up though, how can using B5 megadose for like 1-2 months mess us up for so long (years+) ?!??

You would think whatever it put out of whack would get itself fixed and regulated over time???

Has anyone run tests on their thyroid and found out if there were any issues there?

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So tw12 tells all of you that his hair loss will never stop, yet you continue to megadose on b1. Below is a link showing large dose given intravenously caused anaphylactic reactions which are life threatening. There were no oral studies past 200mg/day. http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/thiamin/index.html#safety

I will ask you directly TW12, did you ever even megadose on b5? You state you had/have a metabolic disorder, but this thread is about b5 megadosing.

Also insulin resistance causes hyperglycemia, not hypoglycemia. They are the exact OPPOSITE and b1 has no effect on insulin. If it did, it would be used for diabetes. B12 has an effect in insulin, NOT b1. You admit you have no medical training, and I fear you are putting people in danger by encouraging megadosing which is what got us all here in the first place.

I stopped the b1 when i solved the cortisol and insulin resistance...I know all this from research, i have found that doctors know very very little about basic nutrient interactions and they have been teached how to react to conditions through man made alternatives and not natural vitamins and minerals so u never get cured, but treated instead......Iv been resarching for years now as i have a metabolic condition which is now coming to an end now...I can cure all of you from acne, using natural means ofcourse, by curing i mean CURING not treating but let us first fix this hair loss...My hair loss will never stop as its androgenic but im seeing regrowth from previous sheds...

i got nothing but respect for you. But tw12 Said he cant cure his hairloss because its mainly androgenic = mpb which means he have to use finas/avodart, and it looked in his latest post he Isnt very interested in using it.

He also Said he noticed regrowth from earlier sheds which might be from his high cortisol and b-1 maybe solved that.

You both seems to be well educated so the best thing would be you two getting along and could have mature discussions about this. It will benefits all of US.

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Hey guys, is your hair loss mostly located in the MIDDLE of your head? I noticed for me, the middle front is really bad, and it continues back along the scalp too. Temples receded as well too though quite badly.

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So tw12 tells all of you that his hair loss will never stop, yet you continue to megadose on b1. Below is a link showing large dose given intravenously caused anaphylactic reactions which are life threatening. There were no oral studies past 200mg/day. http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/thiamin/index.html#safety

I will ask you directly TW12, did you ever even megadose on b5? You state you had/have a metabolic disorder, but this thread is about b5 megadosing.

Also insulin resistance causes hyperglycemia, not hypoglycemia. They are the exact OPPOSITE and b1 has no effect on insulin. If it did, it would be used for diabetes. B12 has an effect in insulin, NOT b1. You admit you have no medical training, and I fear you are putting people in danger by encouraging megadosing which is what got us all here in the first place.

I stopped the b1 when i solved the cortisol and insulin resistance...I know all this from research, i have found that doctors know very very little about basic nutrient interactions and they have been teached how to react to conditions through man made alternatives and not natural vitamins and minerals so u never get cured, but treated instead......Iv been resarching for years now as i have a metabolic condition which is now coming to an end now...I can cure all of you from acne, using natural means ofcourse, by curing i mean CURING not treating but let us first fix this hair loss...My hair loss will never stop as its androgenic but im seeing regrowth from previous sheds...

i got nothing but respect for you. But tw12 Said he cant cure his hairloss because its mainly androgenic = mpb which means he have to use finas/avodart, and it looked in his latest post he Isnt very interested in using it.

He also Said he noticed regrowth from earlier sheds which might be from his high cortisol and b-1 maybe solved that.

You both seems to be well educated so the best thing would be you two getting along and could have mature discussions about this. It will benefits all of US.

Exactly

Hey guys, is your hair loss mostly located in the MIDDLE of your head? I noticed for me, the middle front is really bad, and it continues back along the scalp too. Temples receded as well too though quite badly.

I'm receding pretty bad, my scalp sucks, and the sides have thinned out massively you can literally see where the hair is missing all over, 4 years of shedding thought I would of been bald my now lol, luckily in England it's quite stylish to have your hair combed over to 1 side so it's not to bad, I find using a blow dryer makes it look a lot more thinker.

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So tw12 tells all of you that his hair loss will never stop, yet you continue to megadose on b1. Below is a link showing large dose given intravenously caused anaphylactic reactions which are life threatening. There were no oral studies past 200mg/day. http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/thiamin/index.html#safety

I will ask you directly TW12, did you ever even megadose on b5? You state you had/have a metabolic disorder, but this thread is about b5 megadosing.

Also insulin resistance causes hyperglycemia, not hypoglycemia. They are the exact OPPOSITE and b1 has no effect on insulin. If it did, it would be used for diabetes. B12 has an effect in insulin, NOT b1. You admit you have no medical training, and I fear you are putting people in danger by encouraging megadosing which is what got us all here in the first place.

I stopped the b1 when i solved the cortisol and insulin resistance...I know all this from research, i have found that doctors know very very little about basic nutrient interactions and they have been teached how to react to conditions through man made alternatives and not natural vitamins and minerals so u never get cured, but treated instead......Iv been resarching for years now as i have a metabolic condition which is now coming to an end now...I can cure all of you from acne, using natural means ofcourse, by curing i mean CURING not treating but let us first fix this hair loss...My hair loss will never stop as its androgenic but im seeing regrowth from previous sheds...

i got nothing but respect for you. But tw12 Said he cant cure his hairloss because its mainly androgenic = mpb which means he have to use finas/avodart, and it looked in his latest post he Isnt very interested in using it.

He also Said he noticed regrowth from earlier sheds which might be from his high cortisol and b-1 maybe solved that.

You both seems to be well educated so the best thing would be you two getting along and could have mature discussions about this. It will benefits all of US.

Exactly

>>Hey guys, is your hair loss mostly located in the MIDDLE of your head? I noticed for me, the middle front is really bad, and it continues back along the scalp too. Temples receded as well too though quite badly.

I'm receding pretty bad, my scalp sucks, and the sides have thinned out massively you can literally see where the hair is missing all over, 4 years of shedding thought I would of been bald my now lol, luckily in England it's quite stylish to have your hair combed over to 1 side so it's not to bad, I find using a blow dryer makes it look a lot more thinker.

I'm tempted to use RU (topical antiandrogen) it should work wonders, theoretically. However, I'm pretty sure I would have side effects after everything I've read. Also there was 1 reported case of someone getting a terminal heart disease after using it for only 1 week (obviously rare but it's no joke) anti-androgens can mess with the heart negatively. Fin = hell no. Way too many horror stories of people having depression+ED issues even after just taking fin for a few times, and they are messed up for life now.

So that said, hopefully B1 works... it would be so funny if B1 works. Like really.. B1?!? lol. Will start the B1 today.

FYI, I ordered retin-A 0.05% and will use that mixed with hydro-cortisone in thinning areas. (It's called Saba gel) some people have had good results with this. It doesn't have any potential to mess you up like anti-androgens do so I figure why not.

ALSO, this may be getting a little advanced but, I know having high SHBG is good to keep hair, and I used to be on low dose clomid awhile back (which really boosts SHBG, FSH, LH, testosterone), and my hair was great. So I'm going back on that. Probably 12.5/mg every other day. Check this for reference: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14758568

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Mike, Please dont use anything else, the b1 is more than enough to fix u ...Dont get urself hooked on anything...Give the b1 a week and see how u do on it...Iv saw many posts that retin a causes further hair loss so i wont advise...Trust me...

Good luck everyone, im pretty sure this is the cure for all of you...

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yeh I hear ya out of everything and after 4 years or searching for this cure it could turn out to be vitamin b1 haha very random. Fingers crossed guys

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16552990 this is pretty interesting as well. premature balding basically = low SHBG, FSH, and insulin resistance.



Mike, Please dont use anything else, the b1 is more than enough to fix u ...Dont get urself hooked on anything...Give the b1 a week and see how u do on it...Iv saw many posts that retin a causes further hair loss so i wont advise...Trust me...

Good luck everyone, im pretty sure this is the cure for all of you...

Interesting... alright sir. I will try it your way.

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