Vitamin B5 Hairloss- Cured (Pictures)

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I have buzzed my hair down to a 4. Since I am diffuse This makes the loss look better.

I am starting on Promox from dr Klein. This is topical fin with 5% minox as a vechical. It also has retin a to help penetrate the scalp better. I am using it once a day to hopefully prevent any sides. Goal is to maintain what I have, if I have regrowth even better.

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You still think this is just normal MPB?

What happened with the progress you had with b5+l-cysteine at start of the thread?

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Cysteine didn't work and it doesn't make sense as levels would of returned to normal after two years.

It's possible the body became cysteine resistant, similar to insulin resistance, but I am unaware of anyway to test that.

In addition, RU is a topical DHT blocker which worked for me and DHT is the cause of MPB

To answer your question I do think this is regular MPB, but what's important is how did B5 trigger the "mpb start gene". If we could answer that, then maybe we could prevent mpb in ALL men.

For example, men who are chronically deficient in b5, do they never develop hairloss? I like to see a study done that in a third world country.

This was interesting. Discussion of homeless people's hair. Many suspect alcohol, but perhaps malnutrition leads to a b5 deficient?

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=10&threadid=53158

"How many homeless people have I seen? Likely more than you. I've done alot of volunteer work. Alot of them, even white older men, seem to have, on average, alot more hair than the average person their age. That doesn't mean it looks good, only that I noticed less had any noticeable hair loss.

But do I think alcohol plays a role in reducing hairloss? Only if diet in general plays a role, which I think it does, though I have no idea to what extent. I wouldn't dare say that alcohol is the reason that homeless people seem to have more hair though; that's a bit of a stretch in my opinion."

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http://immortalhair.forumandco.com/t9975-good-news-diffuse-thinneres-regimen-for-diffuse-hairloss-that-i-know-will-work-for-the-majority

they are talking lots about B vitamins in that thread.

This was the thread starters answer to me about b5 megadosing

"dude you most likely forced your body to burn fat for fuel through high dose b5. When a cell has more acetyl coa then oxaloacetate it will force your cells to produce energy through b oxidation. You could have also depleted your body of biotin, cysteine and lysine. I won't go into detail as to why but if youre curiois tpu can just let me know and ill post later. Also riboflavin requirements could have been it into overdrive and thus depleted."

Im gonna try with the supplements he talked about in that thread, ofc I will comeback and tell if its made any difference

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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=160444941

Check this out if you're wary about trying fin, people have had decent results on it. I'm scared of fin because of the potential sexual side effects it poses. Still looking for alternatives...I haven't been up to date with this forum for a while, but has anyone gotten any real tests done? If we could get a few blood test reports and cross check them with each other at critical test points (Cortisol, test, dht), we could find the culprit.

Lets try to keep this alive guys.

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has anyone experienced hair loss at all from taking pantethine daily for an extended period of time rather than normal b5?

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has anyone experienced hair loss at all from taking pantethine daily for an extended period of time rather than normal b5?

Yes. I have had diffuse hair loss now for 2 years after 10 days on 3 x 300 mg pantethine per day (stopped taking it after hair loss started on day 10).

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has anyone experienced hair loss at all from taking pantethine daily for an extended period of time rather than normal b5?

Yes. I have had diffuse hair loss now for 2 years after 10 days on 3 x 300 mg pantethine per day (stopped taking it after hair loss started on day 10).

Ah man that sucks, sorry to hear :/ it's so weird how no websites mention this side effect or any side effects for that matter except from typical possible nausea/diarrhea symptons etc

Thanks for the heads up anyway man, guess it's just not worth the risk

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My hairloss has slowed a lot with the use of Nizoral and Minoxidil...there are even little hairs growing but not sure if they will really ever amount to much.

Before, when washing my hair or styling it, many would fall out. Now it is just 1-3 hairs which is probably quite normal.

Has anybody considered, or tried having a hair transplant for this? It's tempting to be honest though my hair still looks OK but receded between 1-2 inches.

I'm living in SE Asia nowadays where the cost is probably quite affordable, it would be awesome to get my hairline back.

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Hello guys,

I have the greatest news ever for you. I have ur cure fir ur condition...Thiamine a.k.a vitamin b1....u are suffering hair loss due to high cortisol levels which i have suffered before and have succesfully cured using thiamine. U need to start asap with 100mg 3 times a day for a week. Ur hair loss will stop in the 2nd or third day and will be cured by the 7th. I did this account to tell you this news. It wont cost you more than 10 dollars and save ur self the hassle of paying very high expenses for other treatments not for you case. I repeat, this is probably the most precious advice u will ever get. I would be happy to see you report back to other people on ur 7 day timeline.

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Hello guys,

I have the greatest news ever for you. I have ur cure fir ur condition...Thiamine a.k.a vitamin b1....u are suffering hair loss due to high cortisol levels which i have suffered before and have succesfully cured using thiamine. U need to start asap with 100mg 3 times a day for a week. Ur hair loss will stop in the 2nd or third day and will be cured by the 7th. I did this account to tell you this news. It wont cost you more than 10 dollars and save ur self the hassle of paying very high expenses for other treatments not for you case. I repeat, this is probably the most precious advice u will ever get. I would be happy to see you report back to other people on ur 7 day timeline.

Im starting this today with taking thiamine 100mg 3 times/day. Will report back in a week.

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Hello guys,

I have the greatest news ever for you. I have ur cure fir ur condition...Thiamine a.k.a vitamin b1....u are suffering hair loss due to high cortisol levels which i have suffered before and have succesfully cured using thiamine. U need to start asap with 100mg 3 times a day for a week. Ur hair loss will stop in the 2nd or third day and will be cured by the 7th. I did this account to tell you this news. It wont cost you more than 10 dollars and save ur self the hassle of paying very high expenses for other treatments not for you case. I repeat, this is probably the most precious advice u will ever get. I would be happy to see you report back to other people on ur 7 day timeline.

Hallo tw12,

If this works ill worship you for the rest of my life. Just to clearify you want us to take 100mg 3 times a day = 300 mg/day ? Thats very high doses, recommended doses is 1.4 mg/day. Is there b1 pills that contain that amount? Or should I pop more or less a hundrerd pills everyday for a week?

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Hello Folks,

100 mg of thiamine 3 times a day, a total of 300 mg...Any b complex normally has 100mg of thiamine so these are okay. Nothing will make me happier than to see people have a better life. Take note of differences in sleep patterns because this will hopefully change your 24 hr pattern, not only ur hair. I reckon ever since u took the b5 ur sleeping pattern have not been optimum. I used to take twin labs b1, it has 500 mg in 1 cap but its better u space it out.

Goodluck.

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Any updates on this yet? I've taken b1 before but in a mixture with other vitamins and it was only around 66mg which had no effect. Very interested to see if this works but as you can all understand I've tried many things in the last 4 years and nothing has worked. This really would be a miracle

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Any updates on this yet? I've taken b1 before but in a mixture with other vitamins and it was only around 66mg which had no effect. Very interested to see if this works but as you can all understand I've tried many things in the last 4 years and nothing has worked. This really would be a miracle

haha same here dude..

Hello guys,

I have the greatest news ever for you. I have ur cure fir ur condition...Thiamine a.k.a vitamin b1....u are suffering hair loss due to high cortisol levels which i have suffered before and have succesfully cured using thiamine. U need to start asap with 100mg 3 times a day for a week. Ur hair loss will stop in the 2nd or third day and will be cured by the 7th. I did this account to tell you this news. It wont cost you more than 10 dollars and save ur self the hassle of paying very high expenses for other treatments not for you case. I repeat, this is probably the most precious advice u will ever get. I would be happy to see you report back to other people on ur 7 day timeline.

Hallo tw12,

If this works ill worship you for the rest of my life. Just to clearify you want us to take 100mg 3 times a day = 300 mg/day ? Thats very high doses, recommended doses is 1.4 mg/day. Is there b1 pills that contain that amount? Or should I pop more or less a hundrerd pills everyday for a week?

I have NOW Foods Vitamin B-1. Good quality brand

http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-B-1-100-mg-100-Tablets/403

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Most other vitamins raise cortisol even more...Thats why people who go on biotin after pantothenic, suffer even more hair loss as it decreases cortisol breaking down speed and thus leave u with even more cortisol. Thiamine and b6 directly inhibit cortisol and i think b5 depletes the body of thiamine but its not mentioned in literature. Its sad how poor nutrient interactions studies are and how scientists are not interested in them since they dont profit from them...



Have any of you guys noticed a difference in sleep pattern since the b5?

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Most other vitamins raise cortisol even more...Thats why people who go on biotin after pantothenic, suffer even more hair loss as it decreases cortisol breaking down speed and thus leave u with even more cortisol. Thiamine and b6 directly inhibit cortisol and i think b5 depletes the body of thiamine but its not mentioned in literature. Its sad how poor nutrient interactions studies are and how scientists are not interested in them since they dont profit from them...

Have any of you guys noticed a difference in sleep pattern since the b5?

Im not sure its because of b-5, but for a year~ ive been waking up many times (not every night) at approx 2-3 at night if I go to sleep at 11-12 at night. And I have a hard time feeling awake when its time to go up, almost feel dizzy the first 1-2 hours after I woke up

Is this a sign of high cortisol?

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To be fair I've just looked at the top 10 signs of high cortisol and I pretty much have about 8 of them, elessarx have have you started the b1 yet?

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To be fair I've just looked at the top 10 signs of high cortisol and I pretty much have about 8 of them, elessarx have have you started the b1 yet?

Just woke up, 3rd day on vitamin b-1 now. Same here, but I have been taking Ashwaganda, Rhodiola and Vitamin C which all are potent supplements to reduce cortisol with no results yet.

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To be fair I've just looked at the top 10 signs of high cortisol and I pretty much have about 8 of them, elessarx have have you started the b1 yet?

Just woke up, 3rd day on vitamin b-1 now. Same here, but I have been taking Ashwaganda, Rhodiola and Vitamin C which all are potent supplements to reduce cortisol with no results yet.

Yeh had a feeling this would be the case, well that sucks haha

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"Yeh had a feeling this would be the case, well that sucks haha"

Blue09, dont give up just yet. Of course it will probobly not work, but it could still be the miracle we have been waiting for. Elessarx says hes been taking Ashwaganda, Rhodiola and Vitamin C which all are potent supplements to reduce cortisol without any results. But how much has he been taking? Tw12 is telling us to take 300 mg B1 a day wich is 215 times the suggested daily dose. Maybe thats what you need to beat this, a one week long attack.

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"Yeh had a feeling this would be the case, well that sucks haha"

Blue09, dont give up just yet. Of course it will probobly not work, but it could still be the miracle we have been waiting for. Elessarx says hes been taking Ashwaganda, Rhodiola and Vitamin C which all are potent supplements to reduce cortisol without any results. But how much has he been taking? Tw12 is telling us to take 300 mg B1 a day wich is 215 times the suggested daily dose. Maybe thats what you need to beat this, a one week long attack.

500-1000mg Ashwaganda, 500~ mg Rhodiola and 2-4 g vitamin C everyday for a month maybe

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Stop everything else except the thiamine...You are depleting ur ceruloplasmin with vitamin c and i will cause urself more hair loss...as for the others they are adaptogens and i found them to raise my cortisol even more...Stop everything except the b1, i dont know why ur doing this...this is very harmful...pantothenic acid depletes thiamine and this is why thiamine is ur only solution...how long have u been doing the c and others? stop them immediately

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Stop everything else except the thiamine...You are depleting ur ceruloplasmin with vitamin c and i will cause urself more hair loss...as for the others they are adaptogens and i found them to raise my cortisol even more...Stop everything except the b1, i dont know why ur doing this...this is very harmful...pantothenic acid depletes thiamine and this is why thiamine is ur only solution...how long have u been doing the c and others? stop them immediately

Tw12 sorry to ask but how do you know so much about this stuff, you seem to know a hell of a lot about these vitamins. Also did you lose hair due to b5 or something else.

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