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Vitamin B5 Hairloss- Cured (Pictures)

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Na no regrowth my hair sucks its so thin now, I have never tried minoxidil yet and hear really good things about lipogaine so think I may give that a try soon, u got balls taking b5 again tho mate haha. Keep posting

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I am now gonna give up on the stining nettle pills. I have been taking them for about 5 months now without any results. don't really know what to try next, it seems pretty hopeless. there is still overall thinning, very itchy scalp and now a receding hairline. still baffled by how 10 days of pantethine within the suggested daily amount could cause such permanent effects.

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I am now gonna give up on the stining nettle pills. I have been taking them for about 5 months now without any results. don't really know what to try next, it seems pretty hopeless. there is still overall thinning, very itchy scalp and now a receding hairline. still baffled by how 10 days of pantethine within the suggested daily amount could cause such permanent effects.

The stinging nettle dident do much good. I think the root nettle did some good, but not enough..

10 days only thats crazy! When you say "within the suggested amount", how much do mean?

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yeah, I took both nettle and nettle root. I took 300 mg 3 times daily. daily suggested intake that has been scientifically tested is 300 mg 3-4 times daily. so yeah, pretty crazy.

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so i didnt read the entire thread, i dont have a hair shedding/loss problem, but i dont mega dose, but im trying to understand much of the role of b5 on the body and feel the affect of b5 mega dosing and hair shedding will provide some insight into understanding the effect this vitamin has on the body.

from the few pages i read and bit of research ive done on b5, as it states on wikipedia, CoA biosynthesis requires cysteamine, pantothenate (b5) and adensine triphosphate (atp).

so mega dosing b5 can deplete cysteamine.. so taking l-cysteine or nac (acetylcysteine) assists in coa production, or fat metabolism, which helps the b5 to work as well as doesnt allow cysteamine to deplete ? and this somehow has a relationship with the shedding hair ?

a post i replied to called High Dose B5 And Increased Cortisol someone asked if there was a relationship of adrenal gland size with mega dosing b5.. and perhaps mega dosing b5 could increase cortisol levels to a point which it affects hair loss ? is this what has been discussed here ?

so l-carnitine, l-cysteine and nac all just assist in coenzyme a production, or fat metabolism, and creates an environment where cysteamine does not deplete. that is what is being attempted here in this discussion ?

any cliffs on this thread or feedback on some of the points above would be appreciated and im sure helpful for all.. cheers

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Fuck, fuck, fuuuuck!!! Iv lost so much hair now. Looks horrible. Going back on b5 had done some damage. Push it to the limit!? keep eating b5? Is that a good ide? It definitely is!

Not quite sure what you mean here, are you saying taking b5 again has made the hairloss even worse?

so i didnt read the entire thread, i dont have a hair shedding/loss problem, but i dont mega dose, but im trying to understand much of the role of b5 on the body and feel the affect of b5 mega dosing and hair shedding will provide some insight into understanding the effect this vitamin has on the body.

from the few pages i read and bit of research ive done on b5, as it states on wikipedia, CoA biosynthesis requires cysteamine, pantothenate (b5) and adensine triphosphate (atp).

so mega dosing b5 can deplete cysteamine.. so taking l-cysteine or nac (acetylcysteine) assists in coa production, or fat metabolism, which helps the b5 to work as well as doesnt allow cysteamine to deplete ? and this somehow has a relationship with the shedding hair ?

a post i replied to called High Dose B5 And Increased Cortisol someone asked if there was a relationship of adrenal gland size with mega dosing b5.. and perhaps mega dosing b5 could increase cortisol levels to a point which it affects hair loss ? is this what has been discussed here ?

so l-carnitine, l-cysteine and nac all just assist in coenzyme a production, or fat metabolism, and creates an environment where cysteamine does not deplete. that is what is being attempted here in this discussion ?

any cliffs on this thread or feedback on some of the points above would be appreciated and im sure helpful for all.. cheers

Really good post mate it sounds like you understand it a lot more than me, I think Itsover and yourself should get talking as I think you two understand the whole thing a lot more than others.

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So after all this, would you guys suggest NOT taking b5?

I took it before for 4 months, my hair got dry but no excess shedding was noticed.

My skin didn't completely clear, but that was because I was eating coconut oil and coconut milk every single day the entire time I was taking it, and I know with 100% certainty that coconut oil/fat makes me break out like crazy.

When I took b5 last time, the areas of my back that usually got acne cleared, but my chest and different areas of my back got it instead, I think that was the b5 trying to work and the coconut fat making acne appear elsewhere.

I've just started taking b5 again, as I said it gave me dry hair last time but no shedding, but I don't know if I want to continue if I'll be bald in a few years from it.

Thoughts?

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So after all this, would you guys suggest NOT taking b5?

I took it before for 4 months, my hair got dry but no excess shedding was noticed.

My skin didn't completely clear, but that was because I was eating coconut oil and coconut milk every single day the entire time I was taking it, and I know with 100% certainty that coconut oil/fat makes me break out like crazy.

When I took b5 last time, the areas of my back that usually got acne cleared, but my chest and different areas of my back got it instead, I think that was the b5 trying to work and the coconut fat making acne appear elsewhere.

I've just started taking b5 again, as I said it gave me dry hair last time but no shedding, but I don't know if I want to continue if I'll be bald in a few years from it.

Thoughts?

Dude don't even bother taking the stuff it's not worth it man don't make the same mistake I did, im 24 and I have 50% less hair because of it, I'd rather have hair and deal with the acne Edited by Blue09

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so the mega dosing causes the hair loss ?

and the theory behind it is that mega dosing b5 extracts cysteamine which has a role in hair development/loss,..?

can someone advise regarding this, we kind of need to know what is happening, what process is happening for this to happen,..

if it is related to mega dosing only.. or have people noticed this hair loss on 2-3-4g...

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Fuck, fuck, fuuuuck!!! Iv lost so much hair now. Looks horrible. Going back on b5 had done some damage. Push it to the limit!? keep eating b5? Is that a good ide? It definitely is!

I don't get it? You lost so much hair now and you are going to stop B5?

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Yes to all, we suggest not taking B5 as it has caused hair loss in many of us. I have read a forum where a girl started shedding hair from taking 1 gram of B5 a day (look back in this forum for the link). We are not certain the reason. We have theories.

Better news:

The Clobetasol Propionate (steroid) .05% solution and shampoo have slowed down the shedding. My dermatologist informed me the shedding should slow down if the dandruff/irritation on my scalp was suppressed. Right now I am alternating the steroid shampoo, Ketoconazole 1% and 2% shampoo, and DHS Zinc shampoo. My dermatologist suggested alternating the shampoos would have a greater effect which seems to be working. I am applying the steroid solution every other day.

I am still taking Avodart and applying Rogain 2x per day which has helped me to regrow hair slowly but surely. I also started the stinging nettle root 250mg 2x per day.

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1g a day of b5 causes hair loss ? come on this cant be true.. this is mega dosing causing a cortisol issue.. there must be some evidence to show this issue..

itsoveriknowiknow what is the evidence regarding this... anyone else care to comment.. what is the correlation.. is it cortisol ? i have no doubt people experience hair shedding from mega dosing b5,.. too much anectodal evidence to suggest there isnt something to it,.,. but we should find out how/why this is happening.. obviously avoiding high dosing of b5,.. mega dosing is going to be the way to go..

but have people experienced it from 2-3-4 grams ?

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The girl who started shedding from 1 gram a day was a post I read.

To be safe, I wouldn't recommend taking anything over half a gram a day.

Could be cortisol that is the cause of shedding. Read through these:

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=10&threadid=56798&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=175738

Low cortisol causes inflammation. Could explain why are scalps are inflamed/irritated and therefore shedding hair. One of the users stated he is now taking B12 shots which some dermatologists give to stop hair shedding, but usually for Telogen Effluvium. I also read a while back that a guy shedding from megadosing on B5 would get monthly steroid injections that helped slow down the shedding. There is also an oral steroid (see below).

Possible treatment?:

http://www.webmd.com/drugs/drug-6730-Cortef+Oral.aspx?drugid=6730&drugname=Cortef+Oral

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I recently went to the dermatologist and she said I needed to take biotin, and try rogaine for women. But my question is I heard Biotin can break certain people out, and I went on B5 to help with oily skin and cystic acne. Would it be wise to try out Biotin anyway? She suggested Elon or Nature made Biotin.

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Update-

I took RU for 3 months. It completely stopped my shedding/scalp itching and my hair started to grow back. I stopped taking it because I don't want to continue to order chemicals from China, but if interested you may read about it on thebaldtruth. I currently use Ketoconazole 1% (nizoral) which slows down the shedding, but causes no regrowth.

I believe the evidence points towards b5 tiggering male pattern baldness. Those who are having success use products that affects DHT such as AVODART which pjjordan is using. I don't post much because there is no cure if my theory is correct. Don't take b5, hair>acne. Take b5 if you can rock the bald/jacked look or get scalp micro pigmentation.

I am currently taking 3000IU of vitamin D a day for acne with a non dairy diet. I get the occasional pimple, nothing more.

Regarding b5 dosing- B5 turns into testosterone. Men have ~17x more T then girls. Therefore we would expect that B5 would affect girls much more drastically then men due to it being a much bigger percentage change. Here are two cases from acne.org which I posted about earlier.

Two months ago I stopped taking Vitamin B5 due to hair loss. My hair is still falling out in tremendous amounts but I am now starting to notice a bunch of new hairs growing in. I check my scalp regularly & each day I'm noticing more and more new hairs. I'm hoping this is a good thing but the hair falling out has not stopped yet. Anyone suffering from hair loss due to B5 please let me know if this has also happened to you. ~Beautyy

Hi, Just want to give everyone a big warning about this vitamin. I started my 14 year old daughter on pantothenic acid for her skin,. I bought it from Holland and Barratt. A couple of months in she started to shed hair but I thought it was just cyclical. After 5 months and more sheds I took her off it and a fortnight later I could see lots of scalp through her normally thick curly hair. ~Liz Grimshaw

Beautty claimed her hair was growing back, something we would expect since girls don't have MPB. Hope I'm wrong, but take RU if you are desperate.

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Agreed. It clearly started Male Pattern Baldness. It's what every dermatologist labeled my hair loss and I've been to 5 in the past 3 years. In addition, my scalp biopsy came back conclusive MPB.

I am going to try to get RU. Just difficult since you order from China...

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So I've been re-reading this whole thread from start to finish now, and as it is now it seems pretty hard to get an overview over regimens that have actually been succesful. Itsoveryes seems to have good news with the RU and ketoconazole.

Could anyone else who seem to have found a succesful regimen recap/update, so we have the latest and best info collected.

For me personally nothing has worked so far, I still have diffuse shedding all over the scalp, and all my bloodtests have been within the normal range as I have previously posted.

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So I've been re-reading this whole thread from start to finish now, and as it is now it seems pretty hard to get an overview over regimens that have actually been succesful. Itsoveryes seems to have good news with the RU and ketoconazole.

Could anyone else who seem to have found a succesful regimen recap/update, so we have the latest and best info collected.

For me personally nothing has worked so far, I still have diffuse shedding all over the scalp, and all my bloodtests have been within the normal range as I have previously posted.

Since we believe it is MPB you would treat it with what's called the big 3. That is an internal DHT blocker such as fin/avodart (stronger), rogaine, and a shampoo containing keto. RU is an alternative DHT blocker which is supposedly safer due to it blocking DHT only at the scalp, not systemically. Remember there is no cure, all this will slow down the hair loss until hopefully a real cure is developed.

I personally have focused on other areas in my life. Gained ten pounds of muscle, put more stye in my wardrobe, great haircut can make it look like you have zero loss.

Agreed. It clearly started Male Pattern Baldness. It's what every dermatologist labeled my hair loss and I've been to 5 in the past 3 years. In addition, my scalp biopsy came back conclusive MPB.

I am going to try to get RU. Just difficult since you order from China...

http://www.thekaneshop.com/index.php/popular-products/ru58841.html

Order RU there via western union. It's legit, where I got mine.

http://www.mpbtreatments.com/#/shop/4563157000/KB-Solution/1716873

Order KB there, it's the vehicle to deliver the RU into the hair follicle. Never oder pre made it degrades.

Order a small bottle with dropper on amazon to mix the solution. It's very easy.

DON'T go higher than a 4% solution, the KB can only carry that much solution at one time.

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=12391

Complete RU guide

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