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#21 FredTheBelgian

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 03:55 PM

Francophone. Because I don't want to screw up my health and my skin.


Edited by FredTheBelgian, 25 August 2013 - 11:36 PM.

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 05:49 PM

Seban Liquid always worked for me. About 20 years ago I could buy it at Walgreens. Now you can get it at the cooperlabs website.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:25 AM

Francophone Posted Image. Because I don't want to screw up my health and my skin Posted Image.


Ah too bad, my French is terrible!

I'm in the same situation as you, extremely oily skin. I'm trying to get an accutane prescription as it is the only option that I think will work. I've tried most of the other stuff with little or no effect.

If you do some research on low-dose accutane courses, you'll find 90% of people are extremely happy with their results (and lack of side-effects).

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 06:53 AM

My skin is not extremely oily, it becomes moderately oily 4-5 hours after showering, but that still bothers me as I see other people don't have that problem.

Edited by FredTheBelgian, 22 December 2012 - 06:53 AM.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 10:32 AM

Same bro ^^^^ I been taking b5 for 2 weeks helping but too soon to know if it will help

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 10:43 AM

My skin is not extremely oily, it becomes moderately oily 4-5 hours after showering, but that still bothers me as I see other people don't have that problem.


Is that your only problem?

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 10:53 AM

Now that my skin is completely clear, yes.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 03:35 PM

Now that my skin is completely clear, yes.


Lucky bastard! Have you tried Vit. B5? Or milk of magnesia? Or Paula's Choice Mattifying serum? Because the latter 2 can keep you matte for a long time, especially if you only get oily 4 or 5 hours after you shower!

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 02:22 AM

i hear the oil cleansing method truly works
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:01 AM

It's topical, it just won't work, just as effective as washing your face. Something has to be done from the inside of your body if you can to get rid of oily skin. Plus the only topical oils that work for oily skin are oils like lavender or peppermint are estrogenic so not suitable for men.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:09 AM

High doses of vitamin A are far from safe. I don't think it should be on the list. Vitamin A accumulates in the body over time with supplementation, excess gets stored in your liver, you can't excrete it that easily, thus you suffer from vitamin A toxicity, or Hypervitaminosis A.

Early symptoms are diarrhea, vomiting, headaches, dizziness, loss of coordination, eye problems such as blurred vision, angular stomatitis and dry skin.

Later stages include liver malfuntion, hair losss, intracranial hypertension [pressure on the brain], reduced bone mineral density, skin discolouration, osteoporosis and at this stage, unless you stop consuming vitamin A altogether, death is a possibility. Liver failure is almost certain. At the very least, you will become severely ill.

If you eat liver on a regular basis, never take vitamin A supplements. Don't exceed 10,000 IU per day [this is for adults, anyone under 18 should take even less]

However, taking betacarotene is safe, even in large doses[a precursor for vitamin A] as your liver won't convert the excess into Vitamin A.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 10:43 AM

I took 50000 IU a day for six months last year and it worked quite well, I had regular blood testing from my GP. I'm going back on it since nothing else would work. This time 30000 IU a day (15000 in the morning and the other half in the evening), I'm 190 cm so I think it's safe for me. I will still do regular blood tests. I was trying 1g of B5 with 1g of carnitine a day for two weeks but it isn't doing anything. So screw it, I'm fed up of bloating my face in front of everyone wondering what I'm doing.

On a side note, no one ever had liver failure or died from vitamin A overdose alone (combined with alcohol consumption or smoking, there have been some cases, but hell, you don't need vitamin A for that). You can try to find one case if you have time to waste.


Edited by FredTheBelgian, 25 August 2013 - 11:37 PM.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 03:54 PM

I took 50000 IU a day for six months last year and it worked quite well, I had regular blood testing from my GP. I'm going back on it since nothing else would work. This time 30000 IU a day (15000 in the morning and the other half in the evening), I'm 190 cm so I think it's safe for me. I will still do regular blood tests. I was trying 1g of B5 with 1g of carnitine a day for two weeks but it isn't doing anything. So screw it, I'm fed up of bloating my face in front of everyone wondering what I'm doing.

On a side note, no one ever had liver failure or died from vitamin A overdose alone (combined with alcohol consumption or smoking, there have been some cases, but hell, you don't need vitamin A for that). You can try to find one case if you have time to waste Posted Image.


erm...the most famous death from vitamin A poisoning is Xavier Mertz [and Douglas Mawson who didn't die, but became very ill], the Antarctic explorer, who died after eating the livers of their sled dogs...as far we know, there were no other factors that contributed to his death. Also, plenty of Inuits have died from eating polar bear, moose, walrus and seal liver, before they realised what was causing the deaths and they stopped consuming the livers of these animals, which are exceptionally high in vitamin A.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'I'm 190cm so I think it's safe for me.' Toxicity has nothing to do with your height, but rather your age and weight. 50,000IU a day for 6 months won't kill you or do much else, maybe give you hairloss, but do it for 5 years or more, and I'd be surprised if your liver wasn't damaged. As soon as you stop taking high doses of vitamin A, your skin will gradually return to its previous oily state, so I don't see how this would be a viable solution to control oily skin, considering the damage it can do long-term. It's obviously your decision, I'm just saying.

Hormonal treatments are much safer, despite what you might think, even for men. Plenty of men take Spironolactone at a low dose without 'ill' effects, i.e. feminization and anti-androgens are pretty much 100% effective when it comes to controlling sebum production.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:50 PM

I've just undergone gynecomastia surgery so I think I'm gonna stick with the vitamin A. It's my choice yes: compromizing my liver to have a normal social life, it isn't doing anything right now so I'm not sure I will continue.

Edited by FredTheBelgian, 06 January 2013 - 05:51 PM.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 06:34 PM

I took 50,000IU vitamin a every day for a month straight and my acne cleared up, oily skin finally went away. And then my legs started to hurt, every joint in my body cracked when I moved and I literally could not walk without severe pain in my knees.

 

I also started having this weird neurological issue where my head and body rocked during my sleep.



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Posted 30 June 2013 - 10:06 AM

How about a probiotic in a high dose (10 bill to 30 bill)? It's been proven to reduce sebum content and inflammation. I've been using one for awhile and can attest to this. My skin used to be very oily and I'd get cysts and since I've been taking one daily I'm experiencing dry skin and haven't had a cyst since.


What type or brand of probiotics?

Current Skincare Regimen

 

MORNING

Green Tea Cleanser from Dermatologist

CeraVe Facial Moisturizing Lotion

Murad Acne Treatment Concealer (Light) 

 

NIGHT

Green Tea Cleanser from Dermatologist

CeraVe Facial Moisturizing Lotion

 

OTHER

Monthly Chemical Peels (Salicylic and Glycolic Based)

Current Supplements: Zinc, Vitamin D3.

 

Past Efforts: Topical Treatments (BP, Evoclin, Differin, Duac, Ziana, Epiduo, etc.); Antibiotics (Doxycycline, Bactrim, Solodyn); Other Treatments (IsoLaz, Chemical Peels, Supplementation, Elimination Diets, etc.)

 

 


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Posted 25 August 2013 - 01:44 PM

I’ve compiled a list for my own research regarding topicals that may help reduce sebum, and I decided that I may as well post it here since it might be helpful to others.

 

I’m about to start using a combination of two shampoos and a cream that contain a number of these ingredients, and I will of course make a thread if I see a reduction in my sebum. If anyone else is feeling adventurous, please consider trying some of these topicals for yourself. The only way we will ever find a solution for oily skin is if we experiment.

 

Green tea (camellia sinensis)

60% reduction of sebum after 8 weeks using a formulation containing 3% green tea extract:

http://bjbms.org/arc...0-3/mahmood.pdf

 

“Twenty mg of (-)epigallocatechin gallate (EGCG) in 0.2 ml 70% ethanol was applied to the left forehead twice a day for 6 days (FIG. 25). The L/R ratio decrease from 1.20±0.02 to 0.71±0.04 during this period . . . Clearly EGCG was more effective in reducing the sebum production from forehead than (-)epicatechin.”

http://www.freepaten...om/5605929.html

 

“we examined the effects of EGCG, the major polyphenol in green tea, on human SEB-1 sebocytes and in patients with acne. In SEB-1 sebocytes, we found that EGCG reduced sebum”

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/23096708

 

 “Steady and statistically significant reductions in sebum secretions were noted for mono (green tea) and combined treatments (green tea plus lotus) compared to placebo treatment.”

http://www.ncbi.nlm....les/PMC3738281/

 

Ketoconazole (Nizoral)

“The sebum casual level appeared to be decreased by KCZ”

“A 19.4% decrease in the mean sebaceous gland area was observed in the KCZ group”

[Yes, the ketoconazole decreased the actual size of the sebaceous glands.]

http://vipadenievolo...ampoo_Study.pdf

 

“The sebum excretion rate is reduced with ketoconazole (-6.54%)”

http://www.hairlossh...zoral1study.cfm

 

Sea buckthorn (hippophae rhamnoides)

“Concentrated sea buckthorn (H.rhamnoides) fruit extract was entrapped in the inner aqueous phase of w/o emulsion. . . the Formulation showed statistically significant (P < 0.05) effects on skin sebum secretion.”

http://www.ncbi.nlm....les/PMC3146084/

 

Licorice (Glycyrrhiza inflata or glycyrrhiza glabra)

Among the herbal extracts tested, polyol-soluble licorice extract P-U (product name) derived from Glycyrrhiza inflata showed the most potent testosterone 5 .ALPHA.-reductase inhibition, androgen receptor binding inhibition and antimicrobial activities, which are closely related to sebum secretion. In addition to the findings on polyol-soluble licorice extract P-U, clove extract and peppermint extract showed testosterone 5 .ALPHA.-reductase inhibition, arnica extract and rose fruit extract showed androgen receptor binding inhibition

http://sciencelinks....804A0230063.php

 

Clove

Licorice study.

 

Arnica

Licorice study.

 

Rose hip/fruit

Licorice study.

 

“Effects of rose fruit extract on sebum secretion were evaluated by determining the inhibitory effect on TSR activity and androgen receptor binding. Rose fruit extract showed inhibitory effects on TSR activity and androgen receptor binding.”

http://www.personalc...aspx?Story=4113

 

Saw palmetto (serenoa repens)

Study: " The study participants applied a cream containing saw palmetto extract, sesame seeds, and argan oil twice daily for four weeks. . .  a significant reduction of sebum levels was noted—up to 42% in oily spots."

http://onlinelibrary...0306.x/abstract

 

“In a study of 34 men and 28 women (18-48 years) topically applied SR [serenoa repens] extract in lotion and shampoo base for three months led to 35% increase in hair density and 67% increase in sebum reduction”

http://www.ncbi.nlm....les/PMC2840915/

 

Sesame seed

First saw palmetto study.

 

Argan oil

First saw palmetto study.

 

Cedarwood oil

"The two extracts- cedarwood and poplar bud extract retained their activity at 0.5%. and effectively reduced the sebum levels."

“Cedar wood and elubiol application led to a significantly greater fall in the sebum reading at 6 weeks as compared to 3 weeks”

http://www.freepaten.../EP1172087.html

 

Anecdotal

“After a couple of weeks, I noticed the chin was "dryer", indicative of less sebum being secreted than the other side . . . I can certainly assert that cedarwood alone helped that side of my chin to make less sebum."

http://www.hairlosst...oil-test-notice

 

L-Carnitine

 “topical in vivo application of a formulation containing 2% L-carnitine for 3 weeks significantly decreased the sebum secretion rate compared to the treatment with vehicle.”

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/22360332

 

Hydrolyzed wheat and soy protein

“Mean sebum readings charts showed Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein and Hydrolyzed Soy Protein exhibiting similar profiles versus Elubiol, with sebum readings decreasing with time, from 124-138 mu g/cm<2> at baseline to 68-81 mu g/cm<2> at week 12.”

“a similar trial in Australia on Australian teenagers . . . again showed Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein and Hydrolyzed Soy Protein exhibiting similar profiles to elubiol with sebum readings decreasing from 145-155 mu g/cm<2> at baseline to 117-124 mu g/cm<2> at week 12”

http://www.freepaten.../EP1172087.html

 

"We have demonstrated the inhibitory activity of [soy] isoflavone . . . suggesting that genistein and isoflavone would be used as an effective agent for androgenetic acne and for the inhibition of secretion of sebum by modifying androgen conversion"

http://ift.confex.co...paper_24710.htm

 

Lavender

"Transactivation of the MMTV-luciferase reporter plasmid by 0.1 nM DHT was inhibited in a concentration-dependent manner by both lavender oil and tea tree oil"

http://www.nejm.org/...64725#t=article

 

Anecdotal:

"About a month-6 weeks ago I started using about 1 drop or less of lavender essential oil in my nightly moisturiser (Neutrogena Essential Moisture) . . . Since I made this change (and I have pretty much kept everything else in my pretty simply routine the same) I have noticed a huge difference- I now don't get shiny skin at all, but it doesn't really feel dry.”

http://www.acne.org/...-O-t227604.html

“I noticed that Lavender oil helped reduce the oiliness. But it also dries out your skin if you don't moisturize.”

http://www.acne.org/...skin/?p=2564766

 

Tea tree oil

Lavender study.

 

Seaweed extract (laminaria digitata)

“The findings taken together suggest that SOZC can significantly ameliorate symptoms of acne vulgaris, particularly in terms of reducing sebum production and populations of Propionibacterium acnes.”

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/23752036

 

Green apple rind extract

 “These results suggest that GAR-E can be applied in cosmetics to reduce facial pore size and sebum secretion.”

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/23563562

 

Zinc

“Zinc displays 'in vitro' some antiandrogen activity through an inhibition of the 5 alpha-reductase activity”

ttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8252759

 

Niacinamide

“The results of the Japanese study demonstrated that the SER of the two groups was not significantly different at baseline, but the 2% niacinamide treated group demonstrated significantly lowered SER after 2 and 4 weeks of application. The results were somewhat different in the Caucasian study. After 6 weeks of treatment, the CSL was significantly reduced, but the SER was not significantly reduced.”

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/16766489

 

Pumpkin seed oil

“The oil fraction of pumpkin seed has been shown to inhibit 5 alpha-reductase. The mixture of delta 7-sterols has been shown to inhibit the binding of DHT to androgen receptors.”

http://www.web-outpa...hp?Article_Id=5

 

Other

Other ingredients that are purported to have an anti-androgenic or sebum-reducing effect but don’t have studies or significant anecdotal evidence to back them up (that I can find).

 

Topical: Thyme, sage, nettle, rosemary, pygeum.

Oral: Curcumin, resveratrol, magnesium, lithium.


Edited by Jofo, 06 September 2013 - 12:26 AM.


#38 FredTheBelgian

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 11:38 PM

Impressive compilation Jofo!


Edited by FredTheBelgian, 25 August 2013 - 11:38 PM.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 09:32 PM

I'll tell you what I've tried that has NOT worked.

 

I'm 28 now.

 

When I was 19, I tried high doses of B5, didn't work and it made me very lethargic and tired all the time - wasn't worth it.

Then I was 22 I went on Accutane. I never had severe acne, but I had persistent moderate acne where I've tried every topical prescription, natural topicals, antibiotics, etc..nothing. Accutane was awesome and the only thing that helped my oil (I wouldn't recommend going on it to treat oil though, it's a serious prescription) While I still get pimples here and there, if it were to ever come back as it used to, I would take Accutane again; however, this is not an easy recommendation for most people.

 

Saw Palmetto, just took this last week, and I got the worst rash all over my neck and chest from this. Went off it immediately, it was the only new thing in my diet and I gave it to my boyfriend and it didn't affect him. Sometimes I think Accutane has ruined my health, but hard to tell, just feel like I'm sensitive to supplements now and my eyes are always dry ( I did qualify and had LASIK for my eyes 2 years after accutane )

 

I've also tried spearmint tea everyday for 8 months, it did absolutely nothing. I eat healthy and drink hot water with lemon every morning before I have my first morning. I also drink green tea everyday.

 

Anyway, the point is, at least for me, nothing has remotely come close to Accutane, but as I said before, wouldn't recommend it for someone just wanted to control their oil.

 

As for now, I don't know what to do. I have EXTREMELY oily skin, nobody else in my family does. I thought I had PCOS just to find a reason, but the doctor said I didn't have any such symptoms.

 

This is just tricky because I've seen lots of older adults still have oily skin, so I don't see mine going away. I've had this since I was 12. Really annoying for me because I feel like it limits what I can do. I don't even want to go camping or stay out for longs periods of time without freshening up.

 

All in all, there's no one holy grail for oil control that has worked that is healthy.


Edited by janis808, 27 August 2013 - 09:34 PM.


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Posted 02 September 2013 - 10:53 AM

How about a probiotic in a high dose (10 bill to 30 bill)? It's been proven to reduce sebum content and inflammation. I've been using one for awhile and can attest to this. My skin used to be very oily and I'd get cysts and since I've been taking one daily I'm experiencing dry skin and haven't had a cyst since.

 

 

What brand of probiotics are you taking and what dosage?


Edited by John457, 02 September 2013 - 10:53 AM.

Current Skincare Regimen

 

MORNING

Green Tea Cleanser from Dermatologist

CeraVe Facial Moisturizing Lotion

Murad Acne Treatment Concealer (Light) 

 

NIGHT

Green Tea Cleanser from Dermatologist

CeraVe Facial Moisturizing Lotion

 

OTHER

Monthly Chemical Peels (Salicylic and Glycolic Based)

Current Supplements: Zinc, Vitamin D3.

 

Past Efforts: Topical Treatments (BP, Evoclin, Differin, Duac, Ziana, Epiduo, etc.); Antibiotics (Doxycycline, Bactrim, Solodyn); Other Treatments (IsoLaz, Chemical Peels, Supplementation, Elimination Diets, etc.)

 

 





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