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Accutane Is Poison

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Seriously, I just want to start off with saying that Accutane is literally poison. I can provide substantial evidence support that it's poison. For one, the ingredients consist of a lot of hydrogenated oils. Hydrogenated oils are poison in themselves. I will continue to follow up with posts to support this new topic.

BTW, Accutane and generic manufactures are under fire right now because of the damages Accutane has caused. For those that write about a "positive" experience on a Accutane treatment plan, they are either lying, sales representatives/ both, or just purely lucked out.

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Well yes, it is a poison . Some people however, would choose poison because they are desperate to cure their acne.

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“All things are poisons, for there is nothing without poisonous qualities. It is only the dose which makes a thing poison.”

Paracelsus

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Like 13yearsofacne said, the "poison" is in the dose. Of course, if you're on Accutate/Isotretinoin you should not take more than what was prescribed to you and follow directions!

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yes most people know this. its one of the worst drugs out there. you can just take vitamin a and that will be fine. the pharmas have exploited vitamin a so they can sell it. if they told you the cure to acne problems they couldn't make any money.

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yes most people know this. its one of the worst drugs out there. you can just take vitamin a and that will be fine. the pharmas have exploited vitamin a so they can sell it. if they told you the cure to acne problems they couldn't make any money.

Vitamin a can be just as bad. For it to actually work you would have to megadose it, and megadosing a fat soluble vitamin quickly adds up to toxic levels.


How I Stay Clear:

  • Accutane 5mg/day
  • Probiotics 25 billion organisms/day
  • Cetaphil gentle skin cleanser 2x/day

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Have any you of actually taken Accutane? I for one can say that Accutane effectively put my acne into remission. After years of suffering from severe cystic acne and failing every single therapy out there, Accutane was the only thing that worked. It worked for me and it has worked for thousands of people. Unfortunately the extreme voices dominate the conversation about Accutane and there is an obscene amount of misinformation out there. So I guess I must be lying or a pharma sales rep.

Every person on here has to make an educated decision based on the facts and not ridiculous fear mongering or wives tales. I put this ridiculousness in the same category as using lemon juice to cure acne scars. Really? I mean really?

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I Kinda consider acne to be poison as well. Ya sure dont want or need it and in some tragic cases, it leads to suicide as I know oh so well.huh.png

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I took accutane and it worked great for me. 3 members of my family took accutane in 80s they are still alive, free of acne, have children and none of them suffered scary side effects. After 20 years of fighting acne with topicals, antibiotics, vegetarian diet etc the only thing that made my skin look good was accutane. I guess writing about it just made me sale representative and a liar, hahaha

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use the natural ways in my signature to cure acne.

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Like 13yearsofacne said, the poison is in the dose. Of course, if you're on Accutate/Isotretinoin you should not take more than what was prescribed to you and follow directions!

what if your like me and took it as directed by the 'professional' you trusted and they completely overdosed you?

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Have any you of actually taken Accutane? I for one can say that Accutane effectively put my acne into remission. After years of suffering from severe cystic acne and failing every single therapy out there, Accutane was the only thing that worked. It worked for me and it has worked for thousands of people. Unfortunately the extreme voices dominate the conversation about Accutane and there is an obscene amount of misinformation out there. So I guess I must be lying or a pharma sales rep.

Every person on here has to make an educated decision based on the facts and not ridiculous fear mongering or wives tales. I put this ridiculousness in the same category as using lemon juice to cure acne scars. Really? I mean really?

I haven't taken Accutane, but I do in fact support its usage with those who truly have severe, resistant acne. I may have come across as a critic (re-reading it I realize that now), and I probably should've worded what I wrote earlier better like putting 'poison' in quotation marks. I am however dead set against megadosing on OTC vitamin A or any other supplement and trying to obtain Isotretinoin without a prescription.

I absolutely 100% agree with your statement, "Unfortunately the extreme voices dominate the conversation about Accutane and there is an obscene amount of misinformation out there." People panic over ingredients and drugs all the time, from small Vitamin A derivatives in sunscreen to "statins cause all sorts of cancer and permanently damage your liver in small doses" and they fear what they don't understand. Part of the hatred towards Isotretinoin and other prescription drugs lies in their preference with "natural" and "herbal" treatments which has no evidence other than several anecdotes they read online or people they talked to. I also agree with not using lemon juice for acne scars -- while it may have alpha hydroxy acids, you have no idea how stable or what the concentration is and there's no guarantee it'll even absorb into your skin, not to mention possibly getting contact dermatitis!

Like 13yearsofacne said, the poison is in the dose. Of course, if you're on Accutate/Isotretinoin you should not take more than what was prescribed to you and follow directions!

what if your like me and took it as directed by the 'professional' you trusted and they completely overdosed you?

So what exactly happened? Did you accidentally wind up going to a quack doctor? What dosage were you on? What did you try to fix your side effects? Did you go back to your dermatologist or go to another one?

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everyone on accutane is aware of what they are taking. we are essentially poisoning ourselves on purpose to cure our acne. the common side effects are short term, and last a little over the length of the course. the much rarer, more serious side effects, or just that... much rarer.

we are all taking risks taking this drug in the hope of giving ourselves a better quality of life. nobody takes the decision lightly, and scaremongering and uneducated fact slinging is insulting to everyone who is going through, or has gone through their treatment. nobody takes the decision to go accutane lightly, and for most, there is no other choice.

people can copy and paste facts from uncited websites and think they are discovering something that 30 years of proffessional research into the drug cannot find if they want, but keep it to yourselves until your speculative theories are factual.

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everyone on accutane is aware of what they are taking. we are essentially poisoning ourselves on purpose to cure our acne. the common side effects are short term, and last a little over the length of the course. the much rarer, more serious side effects, or just that... much rarer.

we are all taking risks taking this drug in the hope of giving ourselves a better quality of life. nobody takes the decision lightly, and scaremongering and uneducated fact slinging is insulting to everyone who is going through, or has gone through their treatment. nobody takes the decision to go accutane lightly, and for most, there is no other choice.

people can copy and paste facts from uncited websites and think they are discovering something that 30 years of proffessional research into the drug cannot find if they want, but keep it to yourselves until your speculative theories are factual.

You have no right to tell anybody that they need more substantial evidence to support the fact that accutane is dangerous and shouldn't be prescribed. All my evidence is from experience. All the others that I have managed to talk to have shared nothing positive about accutane. If you don't agree with this thread then you don't have to post. Please don't troll this thread when it was created out of good intentions to help people.

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everyone on accutane is aware of what they are taking. we are essentially poisoning ourselves on purpose to cure our acne. the common side effects are short term, and last a little over the length of the course. the much rarer, more serious side effects, or just that... much rarer.

we are all taking risks taking this drug in the hope of giving ourselves a better quality of life. nobody takes the decision lightly, and scaremongering and uneducated fact slinging is insulting to everyone who is going through, or has gone through their treatment. nobody takes the decision to go accutane lightly, and for most, there is no other choice.

people can copy and paste facts from uncited websites and think they are discovering something that 30 years of proffessional research into the drug cannot find if they want, but keep it to yourselves until your speculative theories are factual.

You have no right to tell anybody that they need more substantial evidence to support the fact that accutane is dangerous and shouldn't be prescribed. All my evidence is from experience. All the others that I have managed to talk to have shared nothing positive about accutane. If you don't agree with this thread then you don't have to post. Please don't troll this thread when it was created out of good intentions to help people.

i have no right to ask for evidence for people making serious claims? ah i see...

your evidence is biased, uninformed and based on personal observations. all you're doing is scaremongering.

it's a serious drug, but i'd rather people trust the advice of their qualified dermatologists who spent years studying for their degree, rather then someone on the internet making claims they cant back up.

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Wow intense lol. Personally, I feel every drug has risks. Accutane may be a more serious drug, but I trust my derm and my gp actually told me its not TOO bad. Yeah there are risks, but I heard people who had issues with bcp or antibiotics.

As long as people are properly informed I think it's s personal decision. If you've tried other stuff and they don't work it may be a last resort.

We all have different experiences and at least here we can hear the good and the bad for most pills or products. In glad I read some negative comments so I can better be on the look out for any nasty side effects :)

We all want the same thing --clear skin. How we'll get it, is sadly always different

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everyone on accutane is aware of what they are taking. we are essentially poisoning ourselves on purpose to cure our acne. the common side effects are short term, and last a little over the length of the course. the much rarer, more serious side effects, or just that... much rarer.

we are all taking risks taking this drug in the hope of giving ourselves a better quality of life. nobody takes the decision lightly, and scaremongering and uneducated fact slinging is insulting to everyone who is going through, or has gone through their treatment. nobody takes the decision to go accutane lightly, and for most, there is no other choice.

people can copy and paste facts from uncited websites and think they are discovering something that 30 years of proffessional research into the drug cannot find if they want, but keep it to yourselves until your speculative theories are factual.

You have no right to tell anybody that they need more substantial evidence to support the fact that accutane is dangerous and shouldn't be prescribed. All my evidence is from experience. All the others that I have managed to talk to have shared nothing positive about accutane. If you don't agree with this thread then you don't have to post. Please don't troll this thread when it was created out of good intentions to help people.

What evidence is that?? I have evidence to prove it was a safe cure for my horrible acne. I am type 1 diabetic and risked it and it was worth it at the end! You will be biased and wrong to tell people it is poison. If you do not let the other side speak on this thread then truth will never find its way here....it will be all biased lies.
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Great posts g33tar.

I don't understand why people make threads just to scare people and regard it as helping. Don't they realise young kids probably come onto this site looking for advice on isotretinoin? Share your experience, fair enough. But scaremongering is highly irresponisble.

ONE person having a negative experience with isotretinoin does not qualify them to spout everything as a 'fact' and for every negative experience, there are far more positive experiences because it is a FACT that the majority of people come out the other side pleased with the results and don't experience any really bad side effects. Yes we know that bad side effects can occur. But the point is, it's rare. EVERY drug has a risk, every drug has a list of common, uncommon and rare side effects. All the people who have had a positive experience are less likely to take the internet to share their experience but the stats from Dermatologists speak for themselves.

I've been through the process twice... so does that make me an expert? No it doesn't. And YES I have been pleased with the results both times, NO I didn't have any major side effects and NO I don't work for a drug company nor am I pathalogical liar.

Suggesting that anybody who claims that isotretinoin worked for them just fine is most probably working for a drug company or lying is downright silly and immature and no wonder you don't know anyone who has had a positive experience because you've just admitted you don't listen to them. What % of the population have acne? What % of acne suffers have a severe form? What % of severe cases end up having a course of isotretinoin? You really think the drug companies are going to spend all day 'trolling' the internet to persuade a small % of people to take it?

Get a grip.

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everyone on accutane is aware of what they are taking. we are essentially poisoning ourselves on purpose to cure our acne. the common side effects are short term, and last a little over the length of the course. the much rarer, more serious side effects, or just that... much rarer.

we are all taking risks taking this drug in the hope of giving ourselves a better quality of life. nobody takes the decision lightly, and scaremongering and uneducated fact slinging is insulting to everyone who is going through, or has gone through their treatment. nobody takes the decision to go accutane lightly, and for most, there is no other choice.

people can copy and paste facts from uncited websites and think they are discovering something that 30 years of proffessional research into the drug cannot find if they want, but keep it to yourselves until your speculative theories are factual.

You have no right to tell anybody that they need more substantial evidence to support the fact that accutane is dangerous and shouldn't be prescribed. All my evidence is from experience. All the others that I have managed to talk to have shared nothing positive about accutane. If you don't agree with this thread then you don't have to post. Please don't troll this thread when it was created out of good intentions to help people.

What evidence is that?? I have evidence to prove it was a safe cure for my horrible acne. I am type 1 diabetic and risked it and it was worth it at the end! You will be biased and wrong to tell people it is poison. If you do not let the other side speak on this thread then truth will never find its way here....it will be all biased lies.

Lucky for you! Since you already had type 1 diabetes there wasn't much to risk in that aspect! Accutane caused my Type 1 and No it is not Normal to develop suddenly at 35....

Anyways, It's the same old thing...Thoose who are new to Accutane or had a good experince will praise, thoose damaged will not, then there is thoose who praise it and get damaged and have a change of heart....Then there are thoose that say take the adivice of your derm, but if you get f**cked up then you should of listened to your own body blah blah blah...etc..... Point is it's dangerous drug Roche states that themselves and it is missued by derms all the time. It Russian Roulette!

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http://www.fda.gov/d...y/ucm085812.pdf

Active Ingredient: Isotretinoin

Inactive Ingredients: beeswax, butylated hydroxyanisole, edetate disodium, hydrogenated soybean oil flakes, hydrogenated vegetable oil, and soybean oil. Gelatin capsules contain glycerin and parabens (methyl and propyl), with the following dye systems: 10 mg — iron oxide (red) and titanium dioxide; 20 mg — FD&C Red No. 3, FD&C Blue No. 1, and titanium dioxide; 40 mg — FD&C Yellow No. 6, D&C Yellow No. 10, and titanium dioxide.

This Medication Guide has been approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

Dilantin is a registered trademark of Warner-Lambert Company LLC.

Now lets start off with reviewing what Hydrogenated oils are. They are oils that have been hydrogenated, hydrogenation of unsaturated fats produces saturated fats and, in some cases, trans fats. To treat with hydrogen - is a chemical reaction between molecular hydrogen (H2) and another compound or element, usually in the presence of a catalyst. (aid of wikipedia)

In fact hydrogenated oil is only one molecule away from being plastic. When you eat anything containing this material, just as the oil is now thicker and more viscous (dense), so too does your blood become thicker and more viscous right along with it. The heart now has to work so much harder to pump blood throughout the system. This is one of the major ways that consuming hydrogenated oils contributes to high blood pressure. As you can imagine, this thicker blood with this gummy substance flowing with it can easily lodge in the arteries and build up the arterial plaque. It doesn't take anywhere near as much time as you may think for this to occur. Some studies have shown that negative health effects of eating processed foods occurs within only minutes of consuming such foods.

In some studies it has been shown that such oils contributes to high cholesterol because it actually scars the internal walls of the arteries. This is due to the nickel that is often used in the hydrogenation process. This causes the body to then produce cholesterol to heal the walls of the arteries which is one reason that the plaque builds up on the arterial walls. As the walls are continually scarred this slowly shrinks the opening for blood to flow through making the heart work much harder, placing a great strain on the heart and eventually wears the heart out. This also creates more heat or "yang fire" energy to be created as well.

This thicker blood which has a harder time pumping through the arteries and up to the brain. Hydrogenated oils can slow the micro circulation of blood through the brain further causing various emotional and physical ailments such an Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, ADHD and muddled thinking just to name a few. Remember also that one of the metals sometimes used in the hydrogenation process is aluminum which has been linked to the onset of Alzheimer's disease in a number of studies.

There are stories of doctors who performed surgery and found several inches of a thick fatty substance in patient's arteries. Later this was identified to be the fatty, hydrogenated oil laden fast food breakfast of that patient the day before surgery. Not a pleasant thought at all.(Learn more: http://www.naturalne...l#ixzz2EhCZ22Qw)

(Learn more: http://www.naturalne...l#ixzz2EhBwrdNL)

For more on Hydrogenated oils-

http://www.jctonic.c...ogenatedoil.htm

Now should I get started on the food coloring and potential health risks that are endused by ingesting such?

http://www.fda.gov/d...y/ucm085812.pdf

Not to mention, just having to go through so much to be prescribed a pharmacuetical is a "red flag" in itself. Not only the strict stipulations and cirteria that one has to go through to recieve such prescription, look at the side effects. They are to leave you with more problems then what you began with. Still want to leave your life in the hands of somebody else?

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everyone on accutane is aware of what they are taking. we are essentially poisoning ourselves on purpose to cure our acne. the common side effects are short term, and last a little over the length of the course. the much rarer, more serious side effects, or just that... much rarer.

we are all taking risks taking this drug in the hope of giving ourselves a better quality of life. nobody takes the decision lightly, and scaremongering and uneducated fact slinging is insulting to everyone who is going through, or has gone through their treatment. nobody takes the decision to go accutane lightly, and for most, there is no other choice.

people can copy and paste facts from uncited websites and think they are discovering something that 30 years of proffessional research into the drug cannot find if they want, but keep it to yourselves until your speculative theories are factual.

You have no right to tell anybody that they need more substantial evidence to support the fact that accutane is dangerous and shouldn't be prescribed. All my evidence is from experience. All the others that I have managed to talk to have shared nothing positive about accutane. If you don't agree with this thread then you don't have to post. Please don't troll this thread when it was created out of good intentions to help people.

What evidence is that?? I have evidence to prove it was a safe cure for my horrible acne. I am type 1 diabetic and risked it and it was worth it at the end! You will be biased and wrong to tell people it is poison. If you do not let the other side speak on this thread then truth will never find its way here....it will be all biased lies.

Lucky for you! Since you already had type 1 diabetes there wasn't much to risk in that aspect! Accutane caused my Type 1 and No it is not Normal to develop suddenly at 35....

Anyways, It's the same old thing...Thoose who are new to Accutane or had a good experince will praise, thoose damaged will not, then there is thoose who praise it and get damaged and have a change of heart....Then there are thoose that say take the adivice of your derm, but if you get f**cked up then you should of listened to your own body blah blah blah...etc..... Point is it's dangerous drug Roche states that themselves and it is missued by derms all the time. It Russian Roulette!

Well, I am very sorry to hear you got type 1 and I hope you are coping with it well. I knew what I could get(still might) after taking accutane....it can be MS, IBS, Crohn's you name it... I guess I can still lose all my hair etc.... But, I made an informed decision to take accutane. Even if I do get another problem I would not regret taking it. You might wonder why and I can tell you- I did not want to live with what I had on my face, head and back. I considered and attempted suicide because I have been spat on the streets by adults and abused verbally by teenagers for the most of my life.... We are not talking acne that is moderate we are talking acne that is severe and never healing(maybe, partially due to diabetes). So, I thought if I can have even 6 months of clear skin in the whole of my life I would still take it....just to know for 6 months what it feels to have clear skin. I do not care if it comes back but I do enjoy every day from the time my acne cleared and I am happy now. Whatever the price I have to pay, I am ready for it, my life was never easy and I risked it, and it is still a risk, but I live the most wonderful days of my life at the moment. I knew what it can do to me and I still took it. There would be no surprises and disappointment because I believe I can win. I know what it is to be in coma several times so I have nothing to lose...and maybe a world to gain. For my it was worth it.

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I can provide substantial evidence support that it's poison.

Yes, please post the evidence.


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They clearly care more about the health risks in the US due to lawsuits than the rest of the world. Here Is Australia the only testing that was done was pregnancy testing.

Completley negligent of patient care.

The fact this drug causes birth defects should have made alarm bells go off for me - but they play it down as though its nothing and anything can cause birth defects.

Im beyond disgusted and hate myself for putting my health/ future/body in the hands of a dermatoligist.

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They clearly care more about the health risks in the US due to lawsuits than the rest of the world. Here Is Australia the only testing that was done was pregnancy testing.

Completley negligent of patient care.

The fact this drug causes birth defects should have made alarm bells go off for me - but they play it down as though its nothing and anything can cause birth defects.

Im beyond disgusted and hate myself for putting my health/ future/body in the hands of a dermatoligist.

you cant base how dangerous something is for you as an adult, by comparing the dangers it poses for unborn foetuses.

im sure you've had a few drinks of alcohol in your time? birth defects happen because of alcohol too, yet its perfectly safe for adults to drink (within reason of course).

as for Seanagins.

using buzz words to sound like you know what youre talking about isnt going to fool anyone. did you know that everyone should consume at least 8 glasses of dihydrogen monoxide a day or else we'll die!? using chemical buzz words to scare people isn't acceptable. your poor understanding of chemistry and molecules has again caused invalid scaremongering.

of all the concerns about accutane, minuscule amounts hydrogenated fats has to be the least concerning of all. you are drawing comparisons between a fast food diet and consuming a pill every day. they are just simply not comparable. ingesting milligrams of hydrogenated fats isnt going to harm anyone. we'll have all likely eaten more hydrogenated fats in a single burger then from a course of accutane.

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