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#1 armadillo

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 08:14 AM

I have a really deep cyst on my neck, just underneath my chin in the midline. I think it's about the size of a bottletop, maybe smaller, but it's kind of flat and has a bit that protrudes more than the rest. It's quite soft and it seems to move around.

I've never used a drawing salve before, do they actually work? How long does it take approx. to bring a deep cyst to a head with this technique?

This cysts has been there for about 10 years and it kind deflates and inflates, and it actually has a little hole in it where if you squeeze it, some cheesy material will come out, it's really strange...I've had it kind of extracted before, but it came back, or maybe it wasn't fully extracted. The beautician who was doing the extraction said she thinks it's a blocked hair follicle, mind you, this was 5 years ago.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 02:07 PM

I haven't used a drawing salve, but if the stuff coming is out is cheesy it's generally a keratin plug, not a normal zit.

As for the drawing salves, though, it might be good to know that they don't actually "draw" anything out, they're just wound ointments. See:


Drawing salve is an ointment that can be used to treat a variety of skin inflammations. The ointment "draws out" problems such as infections, ingrown toenails, wood splinters, glass shards, and insect poison. The term "drawing" appealed to some people's sense that infection was a spiritual affliction. Instead of drawing something out, the liniment simply treats the wound. For generations, this home remedy has been used to heal cuts, poison ivy, sores, and many other surface abrasions.
Main Ingredients

The most popular brands of drawing salve list their main ingredients as ichthammol, phenyl alcohol, arnica montana, and several familiar herbs such as echinacea, calendula, etc. These are combined with skin-enriching vitamin E, antiseptic bergamot oil, and anti-inflammatory comfrey oil, in a base of beeswax. Ichthammol, the most active ingredient, is considered a medicine in some countries and is natural substance found in the rock, schist. It softens skin by weakening it slightly, which increases circulation. When more blood goes to the area, the wound will heal faster by ejecting any pus or irritant.
The History of Drawing Salve

Drawing salve became successful during the period of widely advertised medicinals and balms of the late 1800s. Catchy slogans, bright packaging, and sworn testimonials from satisfied customers littered the old-fashioned pharmacies. The line between medicine and fraud was not as firmly drawn as it is today. However, this salve, otherwise known as Black Ointment, or Icthyol Salve, was an effective blend of herbs, roots, extracts, and oils, which actually serve to soothe skin.
Drawing salve is still commonly used in modern times. Many families today consider it a staple of their medicine cabinet, and use it liberally when children encounter bee stings, splinters, or rose bushes. Due to advances in modern medicine, it is now known that the salve does soothe irritated skin, and this has now become it's main purpose. While still unregulated by the FDA, and not considered a medicine in the United States, over-the-counter demand for drawing salve remains high. The ointment can be purchased from many major drug stores or online in a variety of brands.
In the early 2000s, interest was reinvigorated in the use of drawing salve as a holistic treatment for cancerous tumors, in particular skin cancer. Some people believe it can heal internal inflamed or abnormal tissue, like cysts and tumors. However, more scientific research needs to be conducted to support these claims.


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Posted 15 October 2012 - 08:00 AM

I thought it was a load of **** Posted Image Some people go on about using it to bring a boil to a head etc, but looking at the ingredients I can't see how it would do anything

It's due to be removed soon anyway, I guess I'll just have to wait until then

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 03:23 AM

I've used a drawing salve on my acne several times before. As for small pimples it works nice, it's also fairly cheap. I'd be very careful though if you want to use it to draw a cyst out. I've tried before and sometimes it seems to work and sometimes not. Probably depends on how deep the cyst is. The ointment I've been using contains ichthammol and salicylic acid but the problem is it's fairly strong and not really supposed to be put on your face so you don't want to leave it there overnight. If the pimple it too stubborn and you leave the ointment there for a long time it's going to cause irritation. I don't have super sensitive skin but it's happened to me a couple of times (red inflamed nodules that are itchy and flaking at the same time... definitely not nice). You might be able to find a product that doesn't contain salicylic acid, I don't think it will be as much effective but it's not likely to cause any irritation.
Overall the drawing salve works, letting the cyst heal naturally is probably a better choice but if you want to remove it faster this will help. If your cyst is really painful and you just want to relieve the pain it's worth giving a try.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 09:12 AM

Drawing salves do work, especially on cysts. (I know from personal experience rather than just reading some article on the internet.)

If you want a cheap, effective drawing salve, make a very concentrated water/epsom salt solution in the microwave. Soak a cotton ball in the solution and bandage it to the cyst. Replace or resoak as the cotton ball dries up.

You could also buy some Magnoplasm, but it's basically the same thing.

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 09:30 AM

Drawing salves do work, especially on cysts. (I know from personal experience rather than just reading some article on the internet.)

If you want a cheap, effective drawing salve, make a very concentrated water/epsom salt solution in the microwave. Soak a cotton ball in the solution and bandage it to the cyst. Replace or resoak as the cotton ball dries up.

You could also buy some Magnoplasm, but it's basically the same thing.


Tried this...I used to make a saline solution as well and do the same thing, did nothing. I think the cyst is too deep to be 'brought' to the surface. My doctor told me to stop badgering it, as he thinks it might be a thyroglossal one...I'm seeing an ENT next month, and even if it's not a thyroglossal cyst, he/she will be cutting it out because of the sensitive location. He reckons it's going to leave a 2 inch scar Posted Image But I don't care I just want it OUT, it's been there almost 10 years...too long.

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 10:35 AM

Just as a side note, Epsom salt (Magnesium Sulfate) has nothing to do with regular salt (Sodium Chloride) I'm sure you know that, but I just thought I'd throw it out there for everyone else. I wish you the best of luck whatever you decide.

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 10:30 AM

Just as a side note, Epsom salt (Magnesium Sulfate) has nothing to do with regular salt (Sodium Chloride) I'm sure you know that, but I just thought I'd throw it out there for everyone else. I wish you the best of luck whatever you decide.


I mean I have tried it with epsom salt as well as sea salt a few years back. I put a bandage with cotton wool soaked in saline on it, and slept like that for 2 weeks with no results. Posted Image

I think this lump/cyst is far too deep for anything topical to work, unfortunately. I don't think I'm going to try a drawing salve.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 08:07 PM

Wow ten years?? Is it a cystic pimple? Or an actual cyst?

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 02:06 PM

It's an actual cyst, but it does get infected sometimes, so it becomes inflamed. My doctor is not even sure it's a sebaceous cyst, that's why I'm seeing and ENT specialist.

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 09:36 AM

If it hasn't come out to the surface in 10 years the salve probably won't help much.
For medium size pimples that would normally heal within a few weeks it's worth trying though.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 01:20 AM

I have had success with epsom salt soaks and just hot compresses in the past, sometimes they do the trick.

And sometimes they were the deep deep variety...epsom salt and sulfur are my go-tos as far as topicals which I normally stray from.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:40 AM

Update:

I had an ultrasound and it's not clear whether this cyst is attached to my thyroid or not [thyroglossal]

The ENT surgeon agreed to cut it out as soon as it comes out of dormancy, because at the moment, it's too small to be removed effectively. [around 5mm across]

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 10:49 AM

This is a moot point now on this thread to you, armadillo, but I wanted to add that drawing salve does work for things like splinters, small pieces of foreign objects in the skin, though not intended to be used on the face as it could burn the skin.

However, Mario Badescu does have a drying mask that contains the ingredient ichthammol that is specifically for acne. It is a good spot treatment, though it smells terrible.

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