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Posted 09 September 2012 - 05:41 PM

Just wondering if there was a poll/thread done for those who've tried to incorporate linoleic acid either internally or topically. If not, I'd love to hear what your experience has been, esp. with those topical oils that are rich in linoleic acid. I'm little confused as to how the body can appropriately process the linoleic acid from simply applying topically, but the science behind it and other dht inhibitors is very intriguing. I don't have the cystic acne I had in my teens and twenties, but still suffer from deep blackheads/whiteheads, which means I'm always one glass of milk, slice of cheese, drink, etc. away from a bad breakout LOL

Did it work for you?

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 06:24 PM

Just wondering if there was a poll/thread done for those who've tried to incorporate linoleic acid either internally or topically. If not, I'd love to hear what your experience has been, esp. with those topical oils that are rich in linoleic acid. I'm little confused as to how the body can appropriately process the linoleic acid from simply applying topically, but the science behind it and other dht inhibitors is very intriguing. I don't have the cystic acne I had in my teens and twenties, but still suffer from deep blackheads/whiteheads, which means I'm always one glass of milk, slice of cheese, drink, etc. away from a bad breakout LOL

Did it work for you?

Thanks!


It spreads throughout the skin/sebaceous glands. The same way spot on flea treatments like advantage work all over your dog even though you only put it on one spot.



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Posted 11 September 2012 - 06:47 AM

No, it did not work for me. I'd always be skeptical about science that isn't tested.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 10:59 PM

i have been taking 4,000 mg ingested daily and applying it topically as well. i have noticed pimples and white heads dry up. acne scars have faded. it is in evening primrose oil and this is how i get it.THE FACT IS IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS. THE SCIENTIFIC PROOF IS OUT THERE THAT THIS WORKS. PEOPLE USED TO SAY THE EARTH WAS FLAT AND IT WAS THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE. YES LINOLEIC IS A POSSIBLE CURE TO ACNE. IT MIGHT NOT WORK FOR EVERYONe. see the link in my signature for some scientific research. alternatavista has also done some great research and posts on it showing how it helps acne.

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 03:36 AM

i have been taking 4,000 mg ingested daily and applying it topically as well. i have noticed pimples and white heads dry up. acne scars have faded. it is in evening primrose oil and this is how i get it.THE FACT IS IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS. THE SCIENTIFIC PROOF IS OUT THERE THAT THIS WORKS. PEOPLE USED TO SAY THE EARTH WAS FLAT AND IT WAS THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE. YES LINOLEIC IS A POSSIBLE CURE TO ACNE. IT MIGHT NOT WORK FOR EVERYONe. see the link in my signature for some scientific research. alternatavista has also done some great research and posts on it showing how it helps acne.

Dietary linoleic acid is an essential fatty acid which gets converted to arachidonic acid in the body. Arachidonic acid, then again, is a precursor in eicosanoid signaling that can lead to further systemic inflammation. I would recommend that you would only use linoleic acid on your skin and skip the supplements, because those supplements may aggravate inflamed acne.

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 09:38 AM


i have been taking 4,000 mg ingested daily and applying it topically as well. i have noticed pimples and white heads dry up. acne scars have faded. it is in evening primrose oil and this is how i get it.THE FACT IS IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS. THE SCIENTIFIC PROOF IS OUT THERE THAT THIS WORKS. PEOPLE USED TO SAY THE EARTH WAS FLAT AND IT WAS THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE. YES LINOLEIC IS A POSSIBLE CURE TO ACNE. IT MIGHT NOT WORK FOR EVERYONe. see the link in my signature for some scientific research. alternatavista has also done some great research and posts on it showing how it helps acne.

Dietary linoleic acid is an essential fatty acid which gets converted to arachidonic acid in the body. Arachidonic acid, then again, is a precursor in eicosanoid signaling that can lead to further systemic inflammation. I would recommend that you would only use linoleic acid on your skin and skip the supplements, because those supplements may aggravate inflamed acne.

hmm true. i didn't know this. thanks! but it still inhibits dht which is why i think it works too. because i think dht could have to do with acne. thats a very good point you make though about only applying it to the skin. currently i drink it and apply it topically but im doing many other things too that are in my sig. i will try not drinking and see what happens.

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 11:26 AM


i have been taking 4,000 mg ingested daily and applying it topically as well. i have noticed pimples and white heads dry up. acne scars have faded. it is in evening primrose oil and this is how i get it.THE FACT IS IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS. THE SCIENTIFIC PROOF IS OUT THERE THAT THIS WORKS. PEOPLE USED TO SAY THE EARTH WAS FLAT AND IT WAS THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE. YES LINOLEIC IS A POSSIBLE CURE TO ACNE. IT MIGHT NOT WORK FOR EVERYONe. see the link in my signature for some scientific research. alternatavista has also done some great research and posts on it showing how it helps acne.

Dietary linoleic acid is an essential fatty acid which gets converted to arachidonic acid in the body. Arachidonic acid, then again, is a precursor in eicosanoid signaling that can lead to further systemic inflammation. I would recommend that you would only use linoleic acid on your skin and skip the supplements, because those supplements may aggravate inflamed acne.


linoleic acid is an essential nutrient, the rdi is 17 grams per day. every single cell in your body requires fat to run optimally.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:39 PM



i have been taking 4,000 mg ingested daily and applying it topically as well. i have noticed pimples and white heads dry up. acne scars have faded. it is in evening primrose oil and this is how i get it.THE FACT IS IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS. THE SCIENTIFIC PROOF IS OUT THERE THAT THIS WORKS. PEOPLE USED TO SAY THE EARTH WAS FLAT AND IT WAS THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE. YES LINOLEIC IS A POSSIBLE CURE TO ACNE. IT MIGHT NOT WORK FOR EVERYONe. see the link in my signature for some scientific research. alternatavista has also done some great research and posts on it showing how it helps acne.

Dietary linoleic acid is an essential fatty acid which gets converted to arachidonic acid in the body. Arachidonic acid, then again, is a precursor in eicosanoid signaling that can lead to further systemic inflammation. I would recommend that you would only use linoleic acid on your skin and skip the supplements, because those supplements may aggravate inflamed acne.


linoleic acid is an essential nutrient, the rdi is 17 grams per day. every single cell in your body requires fat to run optimally.

It's true that body needs fat to run optimally, but it's not quite that simple. Linoleic acid is an essential nutrient, but a deficiency in linoleic acid would be extremely rare, and people tend to get too much of it if anything. Basically it's better to avoid linoleic acid - even if you tried to minimize it best you can, you would most likely still get enough in your diet.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 09:41 PM




i have been taking 4,000 mg ingested daily and applying it topically as well. i have noticed pimples and white heads dry up. acne scars have faded. it is in evening primrose oil and this is how i get it.THE FACT IS IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS. THE SCIENTIFIC PROOF IS OUT THERE THAT THIS WORKS. PEOPLE USED TO SAY THE EARTH WAS FLAT AND IT WAS THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE. YES LINOLEIC IS A POSSIBLE CURE TO ACNE. IT MIGHT NOT WORK FOR EVERYONe. see the link in my signature for some scientific research. alternatavista has also done some great research and posts on it showing how it helps acne.

Dietary linoleic acid is an essential fatty acid which gets converted to arachidonic acid in the body. Arachidonic acid, then again, is a precursor in eicosanoid signaling that can lead to further systemic inflammation. I would recommend that you would only use linoleic acid on your skin and skip the supplements, because those supplements may aggravate inflamed acne.


linoleic acid is an essential nutrient, the rdi is 17 grams per day. every single cell in your body requires fat to run optimally.

It's true that body needs fat to run optimally, but it's not quite that simple. Linoleic acid is an essential nutrient, but a deficiency in linoleic acid would be extremely rare, and people tend to get too much of it if anything. Basically it's better to avoid linoleic acid - even if you tried to minimize it best you can, you would most likely still get enough in your diet.


mhm. but the deficiency is in the skin. they did research on it and people with acne have deficiency in linoleic acid in skin compared to people without acne. once again its a relative deficiency. i noticed that my acne cleared up after 1 week using evening primrose oil topically. i thought that it was the probiotic topical i was putting on my skin so i stopped eveining primrose oil and now my acne is coming back. still though this doesnt mean linoleic acid topically cures acne. i will have to wait at least one month before i can justify that.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 05:35 AM





i have been taking 4,000 mg ingested daily and applying it topically as well. i have noticed pimples and white heads dry up. acne scars have faded. it is in evening primrose oil and this is how i get it.THE FACT IS IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS. THE SCIENTIFIC PROOF IS OUT THERE THAT THIS WORKS. PEOPLE USED TO SAY THE EARTH WAS FLAT AND IT WAS THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE. YES LINOLEIC IS A POSSIBLE CURE TO ACNE. IT MIGHT NOT WORK FOR EVERYONe. see the link in my signature for some scientific research. alternatavista has also done some great research and posts on it showing how it helps acne.

Dietary linoleic acid is an essential fatty acid which gets converted to arachidonic acid in the body. Arachidonic acid, then again, is a precursor in eicosanoid signaling that can lead to further systemic inflammation. I would recommend that you would only use linoleic acid on your skin and skip the supplements, because those supplements may aggravate inflamed acne.


linoleic acid is an essential nutrient, the rdi is 17 grams per day. every single cell in your body requires fat to run optimally.

It's true that body needs fat to run optimally, but it's not quite that simple. Linoleic acid is an essential nutrient, but a deficiency in linoleic acid would be extremely rare, and people tend to get too much of it if anything. Basically it's better to avoid linoleic acid - even if you tried to minimize it best you can, you would most likely still get enough in your diet.


mhm. but the deficiency is in the skin. they did research on it and people with acne have deficiency in linoleic acid in skin compared to people without acne. once again its a relative deficiency. i noticed that my acne cleared up after 1 week using evening primrose oil topically. i thought that it was the probiotic topical i was putting on my skin so i stopped eveining primrose oil and now my acne is coming back. still though this doesnt mean linoleic acid topically cures acne. i will have to wait at least one month before i can justify that.

I was talking about a dietary deficiency only, sorry if I was confusing. I don't think the deficiency in the skin correlates with a dietary deficiency. Topical use of linoleic acid is a very interesting and possibly effective idea, I was just trying to make a point that using linoleic acid internally may not be worth it because 1) it probably doesn't affect the deficiency in the skin and 2) it could cause inflammation.

Edited by austra, 06 December 2012 - 05:36 AM.


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 07:44 AM






i have been taking 4,000 mg ingested daily and applying it topically as well. i have noticed pimples and white heads dry up. acne scars have faded. it is in evening primrose oil and this is how i get it.THE FACT IS IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS. THE SCIENTIFIC PROOF IS OUT THERE THAT THIS WORKS. PEOPLE USED TO SAY THE EARTH WAS FLAT AND IT WAS THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE. YES LINOLEIC IS A POSSIBLE CURE TO ACNE. IT MIGHT NOT WORK FOR EVERYONe. see the link in my signature for some scientific research. alternatavista has also done some great research and posts on it showing how it helps acne.

Dietary linoleic acid is an essential fatty acid which gets converted to arachidonic acid in the body. Arachidonic acid, then again, is a precursor in eicosanoid signaling that can lead to further systemic inflammation. I would recommend that you would only use linoleic acid on your skin and skip the supplements, because those supplements may aggravate inflamed acne.


linoleic acid is an essential nutrient, the rdi is 17 grams per day. every single cell in your body requires fat to run optimally.

It's true that body needs fat to run optimally, but it's not quite that simple. Linoleic acid is an essential nutrient, but a deficiency in linoleic acid would be extremely rare, and people tend to get too much of it if anything. Basically it's better to avoid linoleic acid - even if you tried to minimize it best you can, you would most likely still get enough in your diet.


mhm. but the deficiency is in the skin. they did research on it and people with acne have deficiency in linoleic acid in skin compared to people without acne. once again its a relative deficiency. i noticed that my acne cleared up after 1 week using evening primrose oil topically. i thought that it was the probiotic topical i was putting on my skin so i stopped eveining primrose oil and now my acne is coming back. still though this doesnt mean linoleic acid topically cures acne. i will have to wait at least one month before i can justify that.

I was talking about a dietary deficiency only, sorry if I was confusing. I don't think the deficiency in the skin correlates with a dietary deficiency. Topical use of linoleic acid is a very interesting and possibly effective idea, I was just trying to make a point that using linoleic acid internally may not be worth it because 1) it probably doesn't affect the deficiency in the skin and 2) it could cause inflammation.


Yes, it doesn't seem likely that we have a dietary deficiency and the researchers didn't believe we had a systemic deficiency, but rather a few gene mutations that result in a deficiency in the skin. On the other hand, it looks like ingesting linoleic acid has done more for my Dog's skin problems than topical application.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:48 PM

I use hemp oil topically which helps a lot with breakouts. It definitely hasn't cleared my acne though. I would say it helps 20%.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 07:32 PM







i have been taking 4,000 mg ingested daily and applying it topically as well. i have noticed pimples and white heads dry up. acne scars have faded. it is in evening primrose oil and this is how i get it.THE FACT IS IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS. THE SCIENTIFIC PROOF IS OUT THERE THAT THIS WORKS. PEOPLE USED TO SAY THE EARTH WAS FLAT AND IT WAS THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE. YES LINOLEIC IS A POSSIBLE CURE TO ACNE. IT MIGHT NOT WORK FOR EVERYONe. see the link in my signature for some scientific research. alternatavista has also done some great research and posts on it showing how it helps acne.

Dietary linoleic acid is an essential fatty acid which gets converted to arachidonic acid in the body. Arachidonic acid, then again, is a precursor in eicosanoid signaling that can lead to further systemic inflammation. I would recommend that you would only use linoleic acid on your skin and skip the supplements, because those supplements may aggravate inflamed acne.


linoleic acid is an essential nutrient, the rdi is 17 grams per day. every single cell in your body requires fat to run optimally.

It's true that body needs fat to run optimally, but it's not quite that simple. Linoleic acid is an essential nutrient, but a deficiency in linoleic acid would be extremely rare, and people tend to get too much of it if anything. Basically it's better to avoid linoleic acid - even if you tried to minimize it best you can, you would most likely still get enough in your diet.


mhm. but the deficiency is in the skin. they did research on it and people with acne have deficiency in linoleic acid in skin compared to people without acne. once again its a relative deficiency. i noticed that my acne cleared up after 1 week using evening primrose oil topically. i thought that it was the probiotic topical i was putting on my skin so i stopped eveining primrose oil and now my acne is coming back. still though this doesnt mean linoleic acid topically cures acne. i will have to wait at least one month before i can justify that.

I was talking about a dietary deficiency only, sorry if I was confusing. I don't think the deficiency in the skin correlates with a dietary deficiency. Topical use of linoleic acid is a very interesting and possibly effective idea, I was just trying to make a point that using linoleic acid internally may not be worth it because 1) it probably doesn't affect the deficiency in the skin and 2) it could cause inflammation.


Yes, it doesn't seem likely that we have a dietary deficiency and the researchers didn't believe we had a systemic deficiency, but rather a few gene mutations that result in a deficiency in the skin. On the other hand, it looks like ingesting linoleic acid has done more for my Dog's skin problems than topical application.

i know you posted a lot of great stuff on linoleic acid. do you think i could ever become 100% clear just by using it topically and eating it? and do you have any recommendation on how much i should take per day? i'm taking 4000mg a day right now. and is it true that it inhibits dht from being converted from regular testosterone? thanks! Posted Image

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 01:04 PM

This woman has had great success with hemp seed oil (1-3 drops, very little) AFTER a SA toner. Here is her protocol. Important to note that it took her 4 months to clear. I am sometimes confused here at why people try things that they think are going to work but only give it a month, when the life-cycle of acne is about 4 months. I realize it is hard to stick things out. Anyway, BPO is toxic IMO, and so I am going to try this regemin, as I have lots of whiteheads since stopping BPO and adding jojoba. What a disaster that was...

 

http://practicalbohe...s-and-tips.html

 

I have no vested interest in this company. Just in clearing my  closed comedone whiteheads!



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Posted 20 May 2013 - 03:01 PM

This woman has had great success with hemp seed oil (1-3 drops, very little) AFTER a SA toner. Here is her protocol. Important to note that it took her 4 months to clear. I am sometimes confused here at why people try things that they think are going to work but only give it a month, when the life-cycle of acne is about 4 months. I realize it is hard to stick things out. Anyway, BPO is toxic IMO, and so I am going to try this regemin, as I have lots of whiteheads since stopping BPO and adding jojoba. What a disaster that was...

 

http://practicalbohe...s-and-tips.html

 

I have no vested interest in this company. Just in clearing my  closed comedone whiteheads!

 

Yeah, she visited the linoleic acid thread many months ago.   so you are going to pay $70 bucks for that?   Wow.  I do need to start a skin care line.  But I just couldn't make myself charge those kind of prices for such inexpensive things. Or create all that garbage with the packaging.

 

Also, I tried hemp seed oil for a while for my dog and me.  My KP came back, and the dog wouldn't ingest it. I couldn't say if it worked as well or not for his skin problems as the higher linoleic acid content safflower.



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Posted 20 May 2013 - 03:24 PM

Which high linoleic acid oil would you recommend over the hemp oil? Safflower or sunflower? Also, do you think using BP temporarily under the high linoleic oil will negate the effects?

 

Thanks for your thoughts!!

 

I plan for the long term to just use a cold-pressed oil. I suppose I can make my own SA toner. I was just so desperate last week, I didn't want to think about it! Agree the price is high! You should make your own line! I bet it would be lovely :)



I checked the linoleic acid content of oils. Do you recommend/preffer the safflower oil over the hemp? Are there any other properties we should be considering in the oils? Thanks!



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Posted 20 May 2013 - 03:44 PM

Which high linoleic acid oil would you recommend over the hemp oil? Safflower or sunflower? Also, do you think using BP temporarily under the high linoleic oil will negate the effects?

 

Thanks for your thoughts!!

 

I plan for the long term to just use a cold-pressed oil. I suppose I can make my own SA toner. I was just so desperate last week, I didn't want to think about it! Agree the price is high! You should make your own line! I bet it would be lovely smile.png



I checked the linoleic acid content of oils. Do you recommend/preffer the safflower oil over the hemp? Are there any other properties we should be considering in the oils? Thanks!

I use safflower. And I buy Napa Valley Organics or Naturals. I can never remember exactly.  From California and sold at Whole Foods.  Put a little in a small dark bottle for your daily use and keep the rest in the fridge.  Add nice essential oils like lemongrass, lavender, ginger, etc. Many of those will also repel insects so bonus for summer.  Or things that are healing. A lot of people like tea tree.  Calendula oil is the only other one I've tried, for the dog. It's used a lot in diaper rash baby products, so I figured it would be ok for him to lick it off. 

 

I am switching to the baking soda/ACV instead of shampoo method.  It's my third time today. I decided to try adding a little tea tree oil, accidently put a little too much (there's no dropper) and my hair reeked. It was making me nautious, but the smell went away after I sat outside in the sun for lunch.
 


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Posted 20 May 2013 - 03:54 PM

Thank you! I was using the BP to help the inflammed, red acne. Will the safflower help with the inflammation?

 

Can't use essential oils for another year or so, as I have an immune condition. Will try those when I can!

 

Do you think that once I am clear, I could just skip the SA toner and use the linoleic acid by itself? Possible that SA or SA + BP are aggrevating my bladder/digestion issue.

 

Thanks so much!!



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Posted 20 May 2013 - 04:25 PM

Thank you! I was using the BP to help the inflammed, red acne. Will the safflower help with the inflammation?

 

Can't use essential oils for another year or so, as I have an immune condition. Will try those when I can!

 

Do you think that once I am clear, I could just skip the SA toner and use the linoleic acid by itself? Possible that SA or SA + BP are aggrevating my bladder/digestion issue.

 

Thanks so much!!

 

Have you tried using aloe vera to sooth inflammation?



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Posted 20 May 2013 - 04:51 PM

Thanks! I have an unusual condition. Things with high anti-oxidant, anti-fungal, anti-inflammatory have a negative effect on my health condition. The more healed my gut lining is, the more I will be able to tolerate these "healthy" things like aloe vera. For example, I can't YET eat EVOO (thank goodness I tolerate grass-fed butter). 

 

So can't use aloe for inflammation :( I will ice which helps a little.

 

My skin was clear 3 weeks ago and now it is utterly covered in closed comedones from the jojoba oil. I am just miserable. Thanks for your thoughts!






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