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#41 northerngal100

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 07:52 PM

Hi aug817, 

 

My skin got worse after I started taz. All the little blackheads, skin coloured bumps (I think these are whiteheads), and perhaps some milia raised their angry heads. It seemed way worse because instead of them coming out slowly when they were ready, there just seemed to be colonies of them being exposed. This calmed down significantly after 5 weeks or so. I think week three-five was the worst - but didn't really stop completely until 4 months (sad truth). HOWEVER - there was substantial improvement by three months. Hang in there.

 

As for the dryness, my skin probably got the most noticeably dry after two or three weeks. The first week for me wasn't bad. I did find it made me shiny in the morning sometimes with the cream formula, but after I washed my face it was tight and peely. Just because you haven't started peeling yet, I wouldn't apply more - you can really damage your skin. For me, I find I peel the worst after 3 days of application. So I do three days on, *peel*, two days off. I try to do every other day, but if my skin isn't reacting, it's hard to resist using it.

 

Just because your skin isn't visibly peeling like mine did doesn't mean it isn't working - the fact that all your non-inflammatory stuff is coming up probably means some exfoliation is happening. I tend toward dry skin anyway, so it could have just been that that made it worse! Don't wish for the peel - it caused me some heartbreak for sure. If you think acne is embarrassing, try acne with a good portion of your cheeks flaking off :P

 

I guess only time will tell. Three months feels like forever...I know.

 

What type of taz are you using? cream or gel and what percentage? Sometimes people with oilier skin do better with the gel, though it is much stronger I find.

 

Hang in there :)



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Posted 28 May 2013 - 01:07 AM

Hi aug817, 
 
My skin got worse after I started taz. All the little blackheads, skin coloured bumps (I think these are whiteheads), and perhaps some milia raised their angry heads. It seemed way worse because instead of them coming out slowly when they were ready, there just seemed to be colonies of them being exposed. This calmed down significantly after 5 weeks or so. I think week three-five was the worst - but didn't really stop completely until 4 months (sad truth). HOWEVER - there was substantial improvement by three months. Hang in there.
 
As for the dryness, my skin probably got the most noticeably dry after two or three weeks. The first week for me wasn't bad. I did find it made me shiny in the morning sometimes with the cream formula, but after I washed my face it was tight and peely. Just because you haven't started peeling yet, I wouldn't apply more - you can really damage your skin. For me, I find I peel the worst after 3 days of application. So I do three days on, *peel*, two days off. I try to do every other day, but if my skin isn't reacting, it's hard to resist using it.
 
Just because your skin isn't visibly peeling like mine did doesn't mean it isn't working - the fact that all your non-inflammatory stuff is coming up probably means some exfoliation is happening. I tend toward dry skin anyway, so it could have just been that that made it worse! Don't wish for the peel - it caused me some heartbreak for sure. If you think acne is embarrassing, try acne with a good portion of your cheeks flaking off :P
 
I guess only time will tell. Three months feels like forever...I know.
 
What type of taz are you using? cream or gel and what percentage? Sometimes people with oilier skin do better with the gel, though it is much stronger I find.
 
Hang in there :)



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Posted 28 May 2013 - 01:22 AM

Thanks northerngal! I didn't know you would response :)
I'm on my week 5 now but let me tell you it seems to be getting worse :( I still have new breakouts coming through and those flesh coloured bumps.. It's embarrassing... These new breakouts also take a while to go away, unlike in your experience.
And my face still doesn't get dry or flaky, it would get more oily and disgusting.
I'm using the 0.5% cream. After doing my research I think my derm should have given me the gel version for my oily skin. I stopped taking minocycline cause I'm afraid of taking too much antibiotics. Which tazorac version did you use? We're you on minocycline as well?
I'm heartbroken that tazorac doesn't seem to work for me. My face is a mess.
Do you use makeup while on tazorac? I don't normally use it, but may have too now.
Also did you exfoliate or use clarisonic at all?
Thanks northerngal for your help! Really appreciate your help!

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 04:23 PM

Hi Northern Gal -

Did you ever recover from the OCM outbreak it gave you? I had the exact same experience as you. The only difference is that I wasn't being treated for acne previously to trying OCM. I've always had pretty clear skin and wanted to try a natural cleanser. I used it for cleanser and moisturizer for almost 2 months and all the while my face was getting more and more clogged pores. I thought it was because we had just moved to CO and I needed more moisture (even though I have really oily skin) so kept using more until like every pore on my face was clogged - like hundreds of them and some really deep. I ended up having to get on antibiotics cause I was getting cysts (which I never had previously) and on Spiro (my doc said in case hormones were also a culprit) along with Retin a micro. I too went through like 2 months of hell as all the stupid oil that clogged my skin got brought up creating swollen pimples and nasty bumpy texture all over my cheeks and jaw. I had to get tons of extractions to get most of it out over months time. Finally last month it started getting significantly better. Several rounds of extractions finally got the last of the major clogs out. I am going on week 11 with Retin a now and most of the red marks (there were soooo many before it was scary) are faded. However, I still feel like I have a handful of small clogged pores on both cheeks and chin that just won't go away. I know probably only I can see them, but they make my skin there look bumpy in weird lighting and I can feel them. I still get a few new ones every week too. No active pimples in a while, but I wish these would totally clear. I was thinking of stepping up to Taz to get the rest cleared and wondered if Ide have an adjustment period after being on retin a micro for 11 weeks. It never really made me red or irritated, just my skin would come off in the shower every other morning and Ide get occasional flakies.

I just can't believe it's been 4.5 months since I stopped OCM and I am still trying to fully fix this.

Aug817 - how has Taz been going for you in the past month?


Hi Northern Gal -

Did you ever recover from the OCM outbreak it gave you? I had the exact same experience as you. The only difference is that I wasn't being treated for acne previously to trying OCM. I've always had pretty clear skin and wanted to try a natural cleanser. I used it for cleanser and moisturizer for almost 2 months and all the while my face was getting more and more clogged pores. I thought it was because we had just moved to CO and I needed more moisture (even though I have really oily skin) so kept using more until like every pore on my face was clogged - like hundreds of them and some really deep. I ended up having to get on antibiotics cause I was getting cysts (which I never had previously) and on Spiro (my doc said in case hormones were also a culprit) along with Retin a micro. I too went through like 2 months of hell as all the stupid oil that clogged my skin got brought up creating swollen pimples and nasty bumpy texture all over my cheeks and jaw. I had to get tons of extractions to get most of it out over months time. Finally last month it started getting significantly better. Several rounds of extractions finally got the last of the major clogs out. I am going on week 11 with Retin a now and most of the red marks (there were soooo many before it was scary) are faded. However, I still feel like I have a handful of small clogged pores on both cheeks and chin that just won't go away. I know probably only I can see them, but they make my skin there look bumpy in weird lighting and I can feel them. I still get a few new ones every week too. No active pimples in a while, but I wish these would totally clear. I was thinking of stepping up to Taz to get the rest cleared and wondered if Ide have an adjustment period after being on retin a micro for 11 weeks. It never really made me red or irritated, just my skin would come off in the shower every other morning and Ide get occasional flakies.

I just can't believe it's been 4.5 months since I stopped OCM and I am still trying to fully fix this.

Aug817 - how has Taz been going for you in the past month?


Hi aug817, 
 
My skin got worse after I started taz. All the little blackheads, skin coloured bumps (I think these are whiteheads), and perhaps some milia raised their angry heads. It seemed way worse because instead of them coming out slowly when they were ready, there just seemed to be colonies of them being exposed. This calmed down significantly after 5 weeks or so. I think week three-five was the worst - but didn't really stop completely until 4 months (sad truth). HOWEVER - there was substantial improvement by three months. Hang in there.
 
As for the dryness, my skin probably got the most noticeably dry after two or three weeks. The first week for me wasn't bad. I did find it made me shiny in the morning sometimes with the cream formula, but after I washed my face it was tight and peely. Just because you haven't started peeling yet, I wouldn't apply more - you can really damage your skin. For me, I find I peel the worst after 3 days of application. So I do three days on, *peel*, two days off. I try to do every other day, but if my skin isn't reacting, it's hard to resist using it.
 
Just because your skin isn't visibly peeling like mine did doesn't mean it isn't working - the fact that all your non-inflammatory stuff is coming up probably means some exfoliation is happening. I tend toward dry skin anyway, so it could have just been that that made it worse! Don't wish for the peel - it caused me some heartbreak for sure. If you think acne is embarrassing, try acne with a good portion of your cheeks flaking off :P
 
I guess only time will tell. Three months feels like forever...I know.
 
What type of taz are you using? cream or gel and what percentage? Sometimes people with oilier skin do better with the gel, though it is much stronger I find.
 
Hang in there :)



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How are things going for you on Taz? My purge on retin a micro took over 2 months before major improvements. During that time I had to wear way more makeup than usual (I hardly wore any before) to hide the mess it caused in its wake ( which was really my fault for putting oil on my face in the first place with the OCM I tried). The retin a has really helped with red marks now though and I just dab on a spot of concealer here and there in the morning now and that's it. I'm still trying to get rid of some last remaining clogs and stop new ones from forming so I am thinking of upping to Taz. I know your post was a month ago but hopefully you will get this!


Thanks northerngal! I didn't know you would response :)
I'm on my week 5 now but let me tell you it seems to be getting worse :( I still have new breakouts coming through and those flesh coloured bumps.. It's embarrassing... These new breakouts also take a while to go away, unlike in your experience.
And my face still doesn't get dry or flaky, it would get more oily and disgusting.
I'm using the 0.5% cream. After doing my research I think my derm should have given me the gel version for my oily skin. I stopped taking minocycline cause I'm afraid of taking too much antibiotics. Which tazorac version did you use? We're you on minocycline as well?
I'm heartbroken that tazorac doesn't seem to work for me. My face is a mess.
Do you use makeup while on tazorac? I don't normally use it, but may have too now.
Also did you exfoliate or use clarisonic at all?
Thanks northerngal for your help! Really appreciate your help!



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Posted 01 July 2013 - 05:55 PM

Hi lifeinfaith, 

 

Tazorac did not help me at all.. I have recently stopped using it after over 11 weeks of usage. 

I think one reason why it didn't work for me is because I used the cream rather than the gel version, and since my skin is very oily it made my face even more oily. 

I asked my derm to prescribe me the gel version but here in Australia, Tazorac (or zorac in Australia) only comes in cream apparently.  

She did increase the dosage to 0.1% but it did nothing to my face, no peeling whatsoever. 

I also believe Retin-A is not available here in Australia but I'm glad Retin-A worked wonders for you! :)

 

I just ordered the Acne.org products, so am waiting for that to arrive and fingers crossed this will work for me as I have heard many good reviews about this regimen.

Have you the Acne.org regimen? How bad was your breakout? What skincare are you using, if I may ask? 

 

Re makeups, I don't wear makeup on a daily basis despite my broken out face... :( But I do wear make-up on weekends. 



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Posted 01 July 2013 - 09:38 PM

I have not tried the acne.org regimen. I haven't reacted very well to continuous benzyl peroxide in the past, it alwsys burns and makes my face red. Also my breakout was mostly closed comedones not inflamed. I did get some inflamed ones and a few cysts when the retin a was purging the worst of it, but that only lasted a month. Most of what I had were tons of waxy plugs clogged in my pores from trying the oil cleansing method. They took forever to come out. The retin a and microdermabrasion helped get them closer to the surface to finally have them extracted. I still have some small ones but I am mostly clear now. I do get occasional new ones surfacing which I am trying to stop. My face isn't quite back to normal yet. It mostly happened all over my checks, jaw and chin,especially cheekbones, which was weird for me. My skin is super oily too. I think you can buy generic tazoratene or tretinoin gel online if you have a prescip. Ever try that? Do you have Adapalene (differin) over there? That's a good retinoid too.

I use Paulas choice skin balancing toner to cleanse my face at night then use the retin a. I spot treat with Paulas Choice sal acid 9 and use her 2% Sal acid liquid when i take a break from the retin a. In the morning I cleanse with a gentle Calming Aveeno wash, use aqua glycolic acid toner and Sanitas oil free moisturizer if I feel dry.

Hi lifeinfaith, 
 
Tazorac did not help me at all.. I have recently stopped using it after over 11 weeks of usage. 
I think one reason why it didn't work for me is because I used the cream rather than the gel version, and since my skin is very oily it made my face even more oily. 
I asked my derm to prescribe me the gel version but here in Australia, Tazorac (or zorac in Australia) only comes in cream apparently.  
She did increase the dosage to 0.1% but it did nothing to my face, no peeling whatsoever. 
I also believe Retin-A is not available here in Australia but I'm glad Retin-A worked wonders for you! :)
 
I just ordered the Acne.org products, so am waiting for that to arrive and fingers crossed this will work for me as I have heard many good reviews about this regimen.
Have you the Acne.org regimen? How bad was your breakout? What skincare are you using, if I may ask? 
 
Re makeups, I don't wear makeup on a daily basis despite my broken out face... :( But I do wear make-up on weekends. 



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Posted 23 January 2014 - 05:07 PM

Hi guys, 

I have been off the radar for a looooong time. I suppose I will give you a quick update and maybe respond to your questions, though I am not sure the responses will be of use now...

 

Update: I continue to use tazorac gel 0.5 once per week (maybe twice) over a light cream at night (olay sensitive). I am a bit lazy about it these days because my skin is COMPLETELY CLEAR (ok ok, maybe one pimple around my period). I'm not sure I can really put it on one thing - but here's what happened: 

 

1) The OCM completely f*cked up my skin. Honestly the worst choice I have ever made with my skin. I suppose I wanted to believe all the good reviews and ignored the warnings. Even after I started to notice my skin get congested I kept going because that's what happens on taz - it really does get worse before it gets better. It took about 6-8 months for my skin to get back to normal after stopping the OCM. I was scarred, red, pimply - blackheads in every single pore (or that's how it felt anyway). My skin was soooo rough and uneven. It was the most crushing time of my life. I know that sounds shallow, but everyone was commenting on my skin and asking what was happening. I went to the doctor for a pap and she honestly just spent 45 minutes talking about my skin. She referred me to a derm although that clearly wasn't the point of my appointment. I left the office crying. I spent tons of money on cleansers/potions...then I made another terrible mistake. I went on Yaz. After a blood clot and my skin getting even worse (If that's even possible) - I went off BC/everything for a while. 

 

2) After I calmed down I went to the doctor to reassess my BC options. Surprisingly suggested Alesse. I have read bad things in the past, but the doctor convinced me I should try it for 5-6 months - even though it contains I highly androgenic hormone it contains it at such a low dose that it is less androgenic then some other pills. Either way, I took it diligently. Initially my face got a tad worse (or maybe this was a normal cycling of terrible skin) but my chest which broke out on yaz cleared right up. I noticed some improvement in my face after 3 months - but this basically just got me back to "normal" (pre-taz). I continued to use taz 3 times/week. He said I needed to be cautious about moisture. My skin is dry/oily. Gentle cleansers and moisture are key.

 

3) I switched my cleansers back to the gentle cleansers - Avene Clean-Ac is my HG - no BP, no SA, nothing harsh ---- no scrubs! A gentle (clean/new) wash cloth every few days in the shower. Oil of Olay sensitive SPF 15.

 

4) After being on Alesse for 5 months, my skin was looking much better. What really pushed my skin across the "ok" to the "I am sooooo happy" is maracuja oil. Now this is completely random. You think I would have been scarred by my OCM horror story, but I got a delux sample of this at Sephora and used with caution after speaking to a sephora rep about my predictament (dry/oily sensitive skin - but clearly acne prone). I tried it just in one area for a few weeks - no bad reactions. I started applying nightly and in two weeks my skin looked amazing. No blotchiness, my pigmentation is gone, and remarkably my blackheads are really really reduced. My pores look smaller (cleaner, I suppose). I can honestly wake up at my bfs place and go without makeup and not have to be self-conscious. It has had this looping effect. Because my skin is better, I am less stressed, because I am less stressed, my skin is better. I have been using it for six weeks now with no issues. I have to put moisturizers over it, but way less than I would normally use. This clearly isn't going to be everyone's solution, but it helped. 

 

5) MOST IMPORTANTLY (and most difficult) -- I STOPPED PICKING. I know, I have OCD/anxious tendencies. I have pulled hair in the past (not fully recovered) and am a terrible skin picker. During the OCM time, my picking was out of control. I feel my face for unevenness and I KNOW it makes my skin worse. I have kept a stressball at my desk (unoccupied hand holding it), started wearing masks around the house (you can't touch your face with all that crap on it), and even wearing gloves. I threw out my magnifying mirror and blemish extractor. Breaking the pattern is hard - but it is getting a lot better. Also, as your skin clears there is less to pick so it helps to break the cycle anyway. I tried really hard when I was first starting taz because I peeled so bad and it worked for a while, but old habits die hard. If I HAVE to get rid of a pimple (you know, its poking right out) I press my skin with a warm washcloth, dab the spot with alcohol and use two tissues on my index fingers and press lightly. If it doesn't come out easily, stop immediately!! If you have a really bad picking problem, sometimes it can help to talk to your doctor about it or a therapist if you have access to one. They can help you come up with solutions and some behaviour alterations/awareness practices you can try - and in extreme cases maybe some anti-anxiety meds might be needed. It's really making your issues worse. This was the hardest part for me (even just admitting this was a huge problem in my life), but made the biggest difference. It's still a constant battle of course, but is way better. 

 

In conclusion, I have learned to be happy with my occasional pimple. I am not trying to improve my routine. It is working. I promised to stop searching the internet endlessly for my own sanity (which is why I haven't been on this site in 8 months) and really trying to focus my attention to other things. This has been partially a strategy to help manage the anxiety and also a strategy to treat myself well and respect myself a little. Searching constantly and failing only made myself feel worse - especially at the pit of despair in my post-OCM time. Hang in there everyone and remember to give yourself a break sometimes. 

 

 

ON TO THE QUESTIONS!

 

1) Did your skin improve after OCM? 

Yes. Eventually. But it took a long time and patience. The scarring took a while to go away but almost a year later is completely gone.

 

2) Re: white bumps after OCM

The only thing that really dealt with these for me was a combination of taz and proper moisture. The facial oil helped a lot in this regard. But many of them took a loooong time to surface. I'll still notice one sometimes but just leave it.

 

3) Have you used Acne.org products?

No. I don't react well to BP. My skin is super sensitive. I know people say you can build a tolerance, but for me the root cause was hormones and over-treating/dryness aggravated by picking.

 

4) Which type of taz did I use?

Both taz cream 1% and taz gel .05%. I think the gel ended up being my preferred option. It feels better on your face if that makes any sense. I find it way more drying though - so pea-sized amount is key. I have heard that the gel is a bit better for acne because it doesn't have mineral oil. This can be irritating for some.

 

5) Did I use antibiotics?

No. Not specifically while on taz. I considered doing a round of them after my OCM breakout. My acne tends to be mostly blackheads/whitebumps so antibiotics wouldn't have helped much initially. I know some doctors prescribe them to help calm the week 3-7ish flare-up, but I just suffered through....

 

6) Make up?

While on my first while with taz I used make up. I used makeup forever face and body after a while because it was the only makeup which I found gave some coverage without making my dry skin look brutal (very water-based) and then patted on a tiny bit of loose powder to set it. make up forever makes great super-fine powder, but pricey. I tried to wear as little as possible in general though (none on weekends, tried to avoid it on "good" days).  I currently use nars tinted moisturizer (oil free).

 

6) Exfoliation/Clarisonic

I got on the clarisonic bandwagon when it was first released. It dried me out big time. Initially made my skin amazing and then red, irritated and grouchy. Using it once a week didn't seem like a good use of nearly $200 (mia didn't exist) so I returned it. Gritty/sandy exfoliators are a bad choice for me and I found made those little white bumps worse. Since taz is a chemical exfoliant, I found just using a gentle, clean washcloth the best solution (only twice a week maybe) to get rid of the flakes. Treat your skin like silk!

 

 

I think that's it. Anyway. I will check in now and then :) Hope everyone on this thread is well.






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