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Posted 17 November 2012 - 08:07 AM

Definitely on the right track.


Thanks. Is there any more information that you could provide me about the root causes of acne? I have looked into Candida, Leaky Gut, Hypothyroidism, Estrogen Dominance, etc. But this is the first time I have tried to treat acne from an insulin perspective.

Update: Dammit I masturbated again yesterday. So that is twice in a row. Okay. I will abstain now for 2 weeks at least. Also, I woke up this morning and I have less active spots. Hmmmmm.... I definetly see an improvement although it may not look that way because of the redness, scars, and old acne thats on its way out.

However, if I continue this regimen and clear up, I will have no way of knowing which one is the greatest contributing factor. Could it be the HCL that I started last Sunday, 6 days ago? Or the Chromium/Zinc/Cinnamon that I start 3 days ago? Or is it the Borage/Yolk/Hemp that I always have done but became more strict and increased my dosage 3 days ago? It could be all those things combined but I would rather not take this many supplements because it is expensive and time consuming.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:50 AM

I stopped taking Betaine HCL completley yesterday and before that I started to use less and less. I didn't think it was contributing because I saw no improvement in 5 days. I know that is a short amount of time but I will try HCL again later when my skin is more consistent. Okay today is monday and I have seen alot of improvement. There is far less active spots just some redness that needs to heal. I feel great. Last week I felt extremely depressed. I'm taking the zinc, chromium, GLA+lecithin+ALA, and taking cinnamon with every meal.

I drank alcohol yesterday and have been bad with my diet, lets see if my face breaks out because so far its doing alot better.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 09:49 AM

My acne is doing so good. Like amazing. I am still getting active spots but my appearance is much healthier and radiant. I stopped taking Betaine HCL on Nov. 19th. And I stopped taking my Egg yolk + borage oil + hemp oil on Nov. 22nd. So far, taking both of those away has not increased my acne alot. Also I have been eating rather unhealthy lately. No doubt I have consumed soy in high volumes. I also drank on the 19th, 20th, 22th, and 23th. This was thanksgiving break when I went to New York. I guess the reason for my acne is insulin resistance. All I am doing is taking 800mcg chromium a day and cinnamon with all my meals. Though I have skipped a few meals with cinnamon.

I also mastrubated once on the 24th. and twice yesterday, the 25th. I will try to go another week without masturbating...

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 07:17 PM

Ok so my skin got increasingly better until today, i noticed some new spots. I think I can attribute this to either the magnesium that I started yesterday or my excessive masturbation. The magnesium is Magnesium Glycinate which is two 200mg pills a day, one in the morning, one at night always with food. I have not seen alot of evidence on acne.org concerning magnesium and acne. One post i saw that they reduced their acne 80% with it, and two others I saw broke out from it in cysts. I will give magnesium at least 3 days to see improvement or worsening. Also I have been masturbating way too much recently which definetly will cause acne for me but im still not relatively sure when I can expect breakouts form masturbating. I have seen that testosterone spikes 7 days after abstaining from masturbation but one time when I abstained my acne just slowly got better without a worsening. Another time it definetly got worse on the 7th day. So its hard to pinpoint what happens. I could have been trying other methods at the time that interfered. But I do know for certain that if I abstain from masturbating for at least a week, (2 weeks is a better measure) my acne is noticeably better but never 100% clear, not at all. So masturbated once on the 24th, twice on the 25th, once on the 26th and once today on the 28th. Damn that is alot for me. I will try to abstain for another 2 weeks. It sucks because whenever I start to do really well with my skin, I get reckless. I masturbate more, I drink more, and I eat more unhealthy. A strange thing, during thanksgiving, my sking stayed relatively clear despite drinking alot and eating unhealthy. So because of these two things I thought I could get away with masturbating more which I did right after thanksgiving break. But now my acne is not improving anymore but getting a bit worse. BUT my gut feeling says its the magnesium for some odd reason, even though magnesium supplementation reduces insulin resistance in non-diabetic patients! (thats me!)

http://onlinelibrary...1332.x/abstract

Hopefully in the next couple of days my acne will improve again because of the magnesium. If it does improve that shows that the magnesium is another helper in my insulin resistance. Though I am not 100% positive I have insulin resistance. But im pretty sure I do because chromium & cinnamon have helped so much. But then again, I did the low stomach acid test with baking soda and I thought i had low stomach acid, yet my acne did not improve with Betaine HCL. If my acne gets worse in the next couple of days, then I won't know if it is causes by the magnesium or by masturbation. (or maybe both?) So what I will do is abstain to masturbating for at least a week and completley stop magnesium. I say masturbating once a week is a realistic goal. Then I will try magnesium again once I have not masturbated for a while.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 06:58 AM

This morning my skin is a bit worse but still plenty manageable compared to my outbreak 2 weeks ago. I'm dropping the magnesium for now as I have found studies showing that it increases both free and total testosterone. Also I am not going to masturbate for a week at least. Will update then.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 09:59 AM

So my acne is a little worse today. The last time I took magnesium was the night before last. I am praying that this recent worsening is caused by magnesium so that I can clear in the next coming days as I have a presentation. I started on Bitter melon noon yesterday the 29th. This is my alternative to fenugreek and magnesium. Both are supposed to increase insulin sensitivity and aid with insulin resistance but have down sides. Fenugreek is a phytoestrogen (soy, flax break me out) and magnesium increases free testosterone. I'm not sure how that relates to dht though I think it would be best to keep overall testosterone down. So I am taking two pills of bitter melon with each meal. Today is my second day. I'm praying.

Though bittermelon has only been proven to help insulin resistance in rats. hmmm...

anecdotes here:

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php/topic/253856-can-magnesium-clear-acne/

"Not trying to scare you, but I was taking a Calcium/Magnesium, D3 pill and eventually I started getting the craziest acne around my neck (and back), where I never usually get any acne let alone deep ones. They were weird looking ones, kind of like a red splotch with a knot underneath. I don't know if it wa the calium, D mag, or capsule fillers, but I haven't had them anymore since I stopped (they were vitamin shoppe brand)."

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http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php/topic/251401-zma-great-supplement-for-acne/

"he first time I had ZMA I broke out shortly after. If I was to make a guess, I'd attribute the breakout to the fact that ZMA has been shown to increase testosterone production. IMHO I would take zinc by itself."

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:17 AM

http://forum.bodybui...?t=11110&page=1

"Im in the same boat you are. ZMA made my face break out terribly bad. Are there any alternatives to ZMA that would work as well or nearly as well??"

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http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php/topic/207321-just-added-magnesium-im-breaking-out/

"I added 250mg magnesium in the last week and I am suddenly breaking out more than I have been. Is my body just going through "crisis" mode?"

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 07:08 AM

Today is the 4th day since I last masturbated. Sunday from Wednesday. AUGH could this go any slower?! I am breaking out even worse so I guess I can attribute it to the masturbation rather than the magnesium. Or possibly the magnesium worsened my acne a bit and now the effects of over masturbating have kicked in. I think I undersestimated how under control my acne was because of the cinnamon and chromium. I guess I will have avoid masturbating for some time again. I will report to see if I have a spike of testosterone on the 7th day which would be next wednesday the 5th of december. I hate how long it takes to clear when abstaining from masturbation. I am not sure about the 7th day testosterone spike. Does that mean every time you masturbate there will be a spike 7 days later. If so, that would make sense right now because my breakout worsened yesterday, a week after I first started masturbating.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:52 PM

Today is the 8th day and I am doing alot better. I didn't masturbate for a while and then I masturbated everyday for 5 days and then suddenly stopped again. The 3rd day of abstaining it got worse until the 6th day. On the 7th day it was still bad but a bit less. I am on the 8th day and I feel good. Just waiting for the old acne to heal. I give it three more days. I am also takinb b5 and carnitine once again!