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[jordeyy]

i have alot of whiteheads all over my face, with deeper ones on my chin and more raised ones on my forehead, with more scattered on my cheeks and nose. Since there are so many closed comedones some get irritated or just naturall turn into red spots, or infect hairs if its in my beard area. i wanted to try the oil cleansing method as this is suppose to clean pores, and therefore would get rid of the closed comedones and spots. i used a mix of 75% castor and 25% hemp seed oil (because i have ALOT of blocked of pores). i tried it first last thursday, and have done it everyday since. I didnt notice a difference in my skin after a few days, despite reviews of it saying it cleaned peoples pores straight away. now, i have loaaaadsss more blackheads everywhere, a few more whiteheads, more inflamed spots/ whiteheads, general redness, and the whiteheads in my chin have either stayed the same or increased. not only this but i also have alot of red marks from previous spots which seem to be more visible now. i dont know what to do, my skin is making me so depressed at the moment, and seems like i'm fighting a losing battle. i dont want to go a doctor or a derm, as they're so f*cking stupid, everytime i go i just get prescribed more antibiotics (ive been given 6 different courses), and stupid topicals that never work. i even paid almost £200 to see a private derm and he suggested either accutane or antibiotics - argghh! i don't want to go on accutane as it stunts growth. does anyway know what im doing wrong or what i can do?

[Need Solutions]

Have a read of that, I havent done it myself yet but by reading other peoples experiences it seems it should be done in a certain way, with good quality oils, ones that are unlikely to clog pores, massaged in for long enough, thourouglhy removed through steaming and washing.


http://www.acne.org/...eansing-method/


Even doing it properly may clog pores even more for some people I dont know. Also the people that it worked for seemed to have reseached it thourouglhy, got the right oils, right mix of oils etcc...

It seems to have literally ruined some peoples faces so be very careful =/

I have so many blocked pores also, my face is a fucking mess =/

[jordeyy]

Have a read of that, I havent done it myself yet but by reading other peoples experiences it seems it should be done in a certain way, with good quality oils, ones that are unlikely to clog pores, massaged in for long enough, thourouglhy removed through steaming and washing.


http://www.acne.org/...eansing-method/


Even doing it properly may clog pores even more for some people I dont know. Also the people that it worked for seemed to have reseached it thourouglhy, got the right oils, right mix of oils etcc...

It seems to have literally ruined some peoples faces so be very careful =/

I have so many blocked pores also, my face is a fucking mess =/

castor oil is the base oil so that cant be avoided, and hemp seed oil i chose because it is rated 0 in comedogenic rating.

i have researched it a fair bit, and do the steam afterwards.

on reason may be that i'm not removing all of the oil, but i dont know how to do this, as i steam then lightly rub to get rid of it, and repeat. maybe a toner is needed.

thats the only thing i could think of, its either that or OCM is just a load of bs...

[Need Solutions]

Have a read of that, I havent done it myself yet but by reading other peoples experiences it seems it should be done in a certain way, with good quality oils, ones that are unlikely to clog pores, massaged in for long enough, thourouglhy removed through steaming and washing.


http://www.acne.org/...eansing-method/


Even doing it properly may clog pores even more for some people I dont know. Also the people that it worked for seemed to have reseached it thourouglhy, got the right oils, right mix of oils etcc...

It seems to have literally ruined some peoples faces so be very careful =/

I have so many blocked pores also, my face is a fucking mess =/

castor oil is the base oil so that cant be avoided, and hemp seed oil i chose because it is rated 0 in comedogenic rating.

i have researched it a fair bit, and do the steam afterwards.

on reason may be that i'm not removing all of the oil, but i dont know how to do this, as i steam then lightly rub to get rid of it, and repeat. maybe a toner is needed.

thats the only thing i could think of, its either that or OCM is just a load of bs...

It probably just works for some people and doesnt work for other people god knows.

And from what ive read 75% is probably way too high for the castor oil. some of the people that got it to work were saying like 10%. and adding in some polysorbate 20 so the oil is removed easier.

Ive ended up with a face 10x many blocked pores than when I started trying to sort my face out so I know what its like.

I Wish id never even bothered researching any of this too be honest..Now I actually do have a skin problem.

Fucked up really

[jordeyy]

Have a read of that, I havent done it myself yet but by reading other peoples experiences it seems it should be done in a certain way, with good quality oils, ones that are unlikely to clog pores, massaged in for long enough, thourouglhy removed through steaming and washing.


http://www.acne.org/...eansing-method/


Even doing it properly may clog pores even more for some people I dont know. Also the people that it worked for seemed to have reseached it thourouglhy, got the right oils, right mix of oils etcc...

It seems to have literally ruined some peoples faces so be very careful =/

I have so many blocked pores also, my face is a fucking mess =/

castor oil is the base oil so that cant be avoided, and hemp seed oil i chose because it is rated 0 in comedogenic rating.

i have researched it a fair bit, and do the steam afterwards.

on reason may be that i'm not removing all of the oil, but i dont know how to do this, as i steam then lightly rub to get rid of it, and repeat. maybe a toner is needed.

thats the only thing i could think of, its either that or OCM is just a load of bs...

It probably just works for some people and doesnt work for other people god knows.

And from what ive read 75% is probably way too high for the castor oil. some of the people that got it to work were saying like 10%. and adding in some polysorbate 20 so the oil is removed easier.

Ive ended up with a face 10x many blocked pores than when I started trying to sort my face out so I know what its like.

I Wish id never even bothered researching any of this too be honest..Now I actually do have a skin problem.

Fucked up really

i think im gonna give ocm a break for a couple of days, then do it again, but with 50% castor oil instead, and using an acv and green tea toner.

hopefully i see some results, i had such high hopes for OCM - its so disappointing!

[Need Solutions]

Have a read of that, I havent done it myself yet but by reading other peoples experiences it seems it should be done in a certain way, with good quality oils, ones that are unlikely to clog pores, massaged in for long enough, thourouglhy removed through steaming and washing.


http://www.acne.org/...eansing-method/


Even doing it properly may clog pores even more for some people I dont know. Also the people that it worked for seemed to have reseached it thourouglhy, got the right oils, right mix of oils etcc...

It seems to have literally ruined some peoples faces so be very careful =/

I have so many blocked pores also, my face is a fucking mess =/

castor oil is the base oil so that cant be avoided, and hemp seed oil i chose because it is rated 0 in comedogenic rating.

i have researched it a fair bit, and do the steam afterwards.

on reason may be that i'm not removing all of the oil, but i dont know how to do this, as i steam then lightly rub to get rid of it, and repeat. maybe a toner is needed.

thats the only thing i could think of, its either that or OCM is just a load of bs...

It probably just works for some people and doesnt work for other people god knows.

And from what ive read 75% is probably way too high for the castor oil. some of the people that got it to work were saying like 10%. and adding in some polysorbate 20 so the oil is removed easier.

Ive ended up with a face 10x many blocked pores than when I started trying to sort my face out so I know what its like.

I Wish id never even bothered researching any of this too be honest..Now I actually do have a skin problem.

Fucked up really

i think im gonna give ocm a break for a couple of days, then do it again, but with 50% castor oil instead, and using an acv and green tea toner.

hopefully i see some results, i had such high hopes for OCM - its so disappointing!

If its causing more blackheads I would mabye think about not doing it at all too be honest, or mabye with alot less castor oil.

Ive had high hopes for the 2/3 things ive tried and everyone single one of them have left me in a worse state than I started..

If I would of dont any of them I would be alot better off, and now I really have got to find something to sort my skin out as spots may go away on their own but pores wont unblock themselves.........

[Vanbelle]

OCM is completely hit or miss.

Be careful: oils are not created equal--and I'm not just speaking of comedogenicity.

The method the oil was extracted and processed is extremely important as well:

Quote
"Regular, mass-produced vegetable oils have turned rancid from the time they were produced, because they are extracted using high heat. Having gone bad, the oils are then deodorised and various chemicals are also added to remove the bad smell, give the oil a nice colour."


Polyunsaturated oils are prone to spoiling:

Quote
"polyunsaturated fats - unlike saturated fats - are highly unstable and they spoil easily when exposed to heat, light and air. By the time they reach you, most would have already turned rancid. And rancid oils are highly toxic."

For these reasons, make sure your oils are cold pressed, stored in dark bottles, kept away from heat, and preferably unrefined and organic as well. If you order your oil online, I'm not sure the regulations on preserving the oil quality. Exposure to heat could be a reality (and even the oils shipped to stores from the manufacturer are at risk). Bottom line: oils vary greatly in quality! Beware. Also, I do NOT think the majority of acne sufferers will benefit from OCM.

The main idea is that oil dissolves oil, so why not cleanse with oil? Because when you rub oil all over your face, how do you get it off? Not with water, which is usually how people rinse. You could steam it off, as steam will help the oil's adhesion, but I don't recommend steaming your face twice a day. Actually, detergents dissolve oil. And very effectively. That's what detergents are. Don't be fooled by OCM. If you want to cleanse with oil, I'd recommend a second step that uses a dissolving liquid to allow the oil to be rinsed off easily with room-temperature water.

I believe in natural derivatives like oils, extracts, hydrosols, distillates and so on. I also believe, in the same way not every dermatologist's prescription will work for you, neither will every natural derivative. Just because it's natural doesn't mean a whole lot of anything. If a product works, it works. I would compare natural products to any other "chemical-laden" product, because in the end, what produces results in a safe manner will win.

Edited by Vanbelle, 08 August 2012 - 01:51 PM.

[jordeyy]

OCM is completely hit or miss.

Be careful: oils are not created equal--and I'm not just speaking of comedogenicity.

The method the oil was extracted and processed is extremely important as well:

Quote
"Regular, mass-produced vegetable oils have turned rancid from the time they were produced, because they are extracted using high heat. Having gone bad, the oils are then deodorised and various chemicals are also added to remove the bad smell, give the oil a nice colour."


Polyunsaturated oils are prone to spoiling:

Quote
"polyunsaturated fats - unlike saturated fats - are highly unstable and they spoil easily when exposed to heat, light and air. By the time they reach you, most would have already turned rancid. And rancid oils are highly toxic."

For these reasons, make sure your oils are cold pressed, stored in dark bottles, kept away from heat, and preferably unrefined and organic as well. If you order your oil online, I'm not sure the regulations on preserving the oil quality. Exposure to heat could be a reality (and even the oils shipped to stores from the manufacturer are at risk). Bottom line: oils vary greatly in quality! Beware. Also, I do NOT think the majority of acne sufferers will benefit from OCM.

The main idea is that oil dissolves oil, so why not cleanse with oil? Because when you rub oil all over your face, how do you get it off? Not with water, which is usually how people rinse. You could steam it off, as steam will help the oil's adhesion, but I don't recommend steaming your face twice a day. Actually, detergents dissolve oil. And very effectively. That's what detergents are. Don't be fooled by OCM. If you want to cleanse with oil, I'd recommend a second step that uses a dissolving liquid to allow the oil to be rinsed off easily with room-temperature water.

I believe in natural derivatives like oils, extracts, hydrosols, distillates and so on. I also believe, in the same way not every dermatologist's prescription will work for you, neither will every natural derivative. Just because it's natural doesn't mean a whole lot of anything. If a product works, it works. I would compare natural products to any other "chemical-laden" product, because in the end, what produces results in a safe manner will win.

on the basis of that, i actually use cold pressed organic oils, kept in dark bottles, and also kept in the fridge. i think my problem is getting the oil off, do you have any idea of what i could use to get th oil off after cleansing? i dont think detergent would be very good for skin...

[jordeyy]

Have a read of that, I havent done it myself yet but by reading other peoples experiences it seems it should be done in a certain way, with good quality oils, ones that are unlikely to clog pores, massaged in for long enough, thourouglhy removed through steaming and washing.


http://www.acne.org/...eansing-method/


Even doing it properly may clog pores even more for some people I dont know. Also the people that it worked for seemed to have reseached it thourouglhy, got the right oils, right mix of oils etcc...

It seems to have literally ruined some peoples faces so be very careful =/

I have so many blocked pores also, my face is a fucking mess =/

castor oil is the base oil so that cant be avoided, and hemp seed oil i chose because it is rated 0 in comedogenic rating.

i have researched it a fair bit, and do the steam afterwards.

on reason may be that i'm not removing all of the oil, but i dont know how to do this, as i steam then lightly rub to get rid of it, and repeat. maybe a toner is needed.

thats the only thing i could think of, its either that or OCM is just a load of bs...

It probably just works for some people and doesnt work for other people god knows.

And from what ive read 75% is probably way too high for the castor oil. some of the people that got it to work were saying like 10%. and adding in some polysorbate 20 so the oil is removed easier.

Ive ended up with a face 10x many blocked pores than when I started trying to sort my face out so I know what its like.

I Wish id never even bothered researching any of this too be honest..Now I actually do have a skin problem.

Fucked up really

i think im gonna give ocm a break for a couple of days, then do it again, but with 50% castor oil instead, and using an acv and green tea toner.

hopefully i see some results, i had such high hopes for OCM - its so disappointing!

If its causing more blackheads I would mabye think about not doing it at all too be honest, or mabye with alot less castor oil.

Ive had high hopes for the 2/3 things ive tried and everyone single one of them have left me in a worse state than I started..

If I would of dont any of them I would be alot better off, and now I really have got to find something to sort my skin out as spots may go away on their own but pores wont unblock themselves.........

yeah when i get some acv, i will use alo less castor oil and see how it goes

[Vanbelle]

on the basis of that, i actually use cold pressed organic oils, kept in dark bottles, and also kept in the fridge. i think my problem is getting the oil off, do you have any idea of what i could use to get th oil off after cleansing? i dont think detergent would be very good for skin...

"detergent" is just a term identifying it's ability to cut through oil. I'm not talking about dish shoap detergent. You could use cosmetic detergents, which are found in regular cleansers. You need some kind of surfactant. If you don't want to do this, you need a hydrophilic cleanser that likes water.

What I'm saying is that either you need to be comfortable with oil residue, using a detergent to rinse it off, or skipping both the detergent and oil altogether and using perhaps a gel or clay based cleanser.

Edited by Vanbelle, 09 August 2012 - 12:16 AM.

[jordeyy]

on the basis of that, i actually use cold pressed organic oils, kept in dark bottles, and also kept in the fridge. i think my problem is getting the oil off, do you have any idea of what i could use to get th oil off after cleansing? i dont think detergent would be very good for skin...

"detergent" is just a term identifying it's ability to cut through oil. I'm not talking about dish shoap detergent. You could use cosmetic detergents, which are found in regular cleansers. You need some kind of surfactant. If you don't want to do this, you need a hydrophilic cleanser that likes water.

What I'm saying is that either you need to be comfortable with oil residue, using a detergent to rinse it off, or skipping both the detergent and oil altogether and using perhaps a gel or clay based cleanser.

well i would like to continue using the oil, so i guess i need a cleanser to get it off, do you know of any cosmetic detergents i could use that wont break me out?

[beautifulppl]

Ughh i know the feeling. I used the ocm a little while ago. It seemed to help at first but after about a week i continued to get break outs everywhere. I would use castor oil, safflower oil, and olive oil i think.. and i bought a facial steamer. At first my skin was glowing, but then my face was a wreck. I had high hopes for it but then again i beleive i have sensitive skin. What i started using was Cetaphil but i still struggle to this day. Im looking into changing my diet and nutrition. I honestly believe it doesnt matter what you put ON your face. Its about what you put IN your body.

[jordeyy]

Ughh i know the feeling. I used the ocm a little while ago. It seemed to help at first but after about a week i continued to get break outs everywhere. I would use castor oil, safflower oil, and olive oil i think.. and i bought a facial steamer. At first my skin was glowing, but then my face was a wreck. I had high hopes for it but then again i beleive i have sensitive skin. What i started using was Cetaphil but i still struggle to this day. Im looking into changing my diet and nutrition. I honestly believe it doesnt matter what you put ON your face. Its about what you put IN your body.

i can only really partly agree on the diet thing. while i think diet is important for healthy skin, im an amateur bodybuilder, go to the gym 5 times a week, and eat very healthily accordingly, eating alot of lean protein, 5+ fruit and veg a day, about 3 litres of water a day, and rarely eat any junk/ excessive refined sugar.

regarding OCM, i've changed my routine today. i have a few new, under the skin very inflamed spots, which im assuming is the result of my picking and the very high increase in stress ive been under lately. i changed my oil cleansing to about 40%castor oil, 50% hemp seed oil, and 10 % tamanu oil. this mixture was alot less thick, so was easier to get off. after lightly steaming/ rubbing the oil off, i applied a 50/50 ACV and green tea toner to further get the crap off and make my skin more acidic again. i then waited for my face to completely dry, then rubbed a small amount of tamanu oil all over, and then a little more tamanu oil in to the active spots/ most noticable red marks. then i put a little steroid cream on my most inflamed spots. its very hard to tell as its so soon, but i feel like my face is healing, and although its only been a day, i think the tamanu oil is already reducing red marks. with this oil combination i could feel maybe 10 grains (sebum plugs) come out of the skin, which i never felt with the original high concentration of castor oil.

what was your original oil ratio?

Edited by jordeyy, 09 August 2012 - 04:03 PM.

[beautifulppl]

My ratio i cant exactly remember. All i know is i had about half a bottle of castor oil, (about 5 ounces), with 1/2 olive oil and 1/2 safflower oil filled the rest of the way. Sounds like you have a nice diet! I may have been doing something wrong. Im not really sure. What i am sure of is Ive tried everything under the sun. Im getting so tired and frustrated of having to deal with this. Its been years now. Ive had very depressing days and i hate it when i have to see people. That makes it even worse. I sometimes have to put my life on hold which i dont want to do because of my acne. I havent had to do that in a while thank god. It may seem trivial but it really does affect me and shoots my confidence and self esteem way down. I wish it would just go away for good and this could be one less thing to worry about. Id much rather have other things on mind than this piece of crap that seems like im the only one having to deal with in my circle of friends and family. It sucks!

Hopefully if you have the correct ratio it will work for you. I researched it and heard a lot of positive things about which was what prompted me to try it. Good luck!

As for me on the upside i have been taking supplements for about 3 weeks and im getting great results but i dont want to get too excited too soon. Im looking forward to the six week mark. Wish me luck!

[jordeyy]

My ratio i cant exactly remember. All i know is i had about half a bottle of castor oil, (about 5 ounces), with 1/2 olive oil and 1/2 safflower oil filled the rest of the way. Sounds like you have a nice diet! I may have been doing something wrong. Im not really sure. What i am sure of is Ive tried everything under the sun. Im getting so tired and frustrated of having to deal with this. Its been years now. Ive had very depressing days and i hate it when i have to see people. That makes it even worse. I sometimes have to put my life on hold which i dont want to do because of my acne. I havent had to do that in a while thank god. It may seem trivial but it really does affect me and shoots my confidence and self esteem way down. I wish it would just go away for good and this could be one less thing to worry about. Id much rather have other things on mind than this piece of crap that seems like im the only one having to deal with in my circle of friends and family. It sucks!

Hopefully if you have the correct ratio it will work for you. I researched it and heard a lot of positive things about which was what prompted me to try it. Good luck!

As for me on the upside i have been taking supplements for about 3 weeks and im getting great results but i dont want to get too excited too soon. Im looking forward to the six week mark. Wish me luck!

yeah i think from what you've said, your castor oil was too high. i think if theres too much castor oil it's not lose enough to be moved around and get into the pores hence why it doesn't clean as well, and since its so thick, blocks pores and makes it worse. i have alot of whiteheads aswell as spots and my pores get blocked very very easily. for instance when i tried OCM first, i notice that my whiteheads seemed larger, blackheads and whiteheads where increasing, and inflamed spots where increasing. after lowering the castor oil, adding an acv and green tea toner, and using tamanu oil, after only 2 days my skin is looking so much better. i have so many red marks that it looks like i have more spots than i actually do, but they have been greatly reduced now, and all spots apart from 2 under the skin inflamed whitheads have gone. i have noticed alot more blackheads, but i think this is due to the sebum coming to the surface/ drying out, which should come away slowly with some gentle mechanical exfoliation. if progress continues like this i should be 80% clear in about a week or two - but dont wanna get my hopes up just yet!

i think im in a similar boat to you, ive tried so many things with the exception of accutane (even though a derm offered it). ive had acne for about 3 years now. my acne is also greatly influenced on stress, so when i get really stressed i get more acne, then the acne gives me more stress - vicious cycle! im sick of spending money just to look 'normal' and the fact that i hate going out in public, even to the gym! my new regime is working though, so lets hope it continues to. i know how it feels with your friends as well, all my friends seem to have perfect skin (or close to) despite have poor nutrition and general poor understanding of what to eat and why.

what are these supplements you're taking btw?

[lightersUP]

Please be careful with the OCM! I tried it for 2 months early this year and it gave me the worst breakout of my life that took forever to clear up! Reading your post brought back terrible memories. I remember the countless whiteheads popping up every morning, and severely inflamed cysts that followed. I probably went through 50+ full size zits on every part of my face and neck too.

Even after stopping the OCM, residual breakouts continued for another few weeks, followed by the redmarks. It was a living nightmare for me and one of the worst decisions of my life. I'm just glad I recovered from that episode. Beware!

I used castor, olive and tea tree oils.