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Posted 18 September 2013 - 06:26 PM

hey guys, 

 

i wanna update you on a new discovery:

 

beta glucans or oat beta glucans!

 

i suggest you do your own research...but people in forums think that it works miracles for regenerating the skin.

 

i am thinking of buying my own and testing it out and letting you know what happens.

 

my skin is fine, but i want it to be even better, ya know....

 

so...yeah, i hope that if any of the other methods aren't working for you, give beta glucans a try. and some people say it works pretty quickly...and the researcher said it could possibly work in 10 days! that's what i'm talking about!

 

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 04:39 AM

Ok it has been 8 weeks since i started the niacinamide and n-acatyl glucasmine spray in distilled water.

 

Results:

 

I'm afraid that i have had no change to my skin, but i have indeed found a fix to my problem and it has repaired and restored my skin trumendously. I give thanks to cubed for the advice and help along the way, and i hope the method has helped other people fix their problem. I believe that everyones skin is different, and requires different methods to fix problems that affect them. Even though the toner i used did not help me, what i did has indeed fixed my problem.

 

My problem was that i used a anti-bacterial agent for my acne that caused really terrible damage to the epidermis structure. Many would argue that the epidermis gets repaired by the skin every month, but it looked the same for about 3 years. The product i used made my skin look really thin and dehdrated, with a polished and plasticy look to the skin (Not nice). My skin was also somewhat crepey, but i think the reeason why it looked like that is that it was severely dehydrated. I tried over the many years with this problem to fix my issue, sometimes something worked, but it only worked for about 1 day. Anyway, more onto how i fixed my problem.

 

What i did was use glycolic acid cream for 1 week and a half to prep my skin to a mild TCA peel. The peel was 12.5%. I used the glycolic acid to remove the statum corneum for an even peel. I used alcohol on a cotton ball to remove fats (makes the peel penentrate better) from the skin after washing and applied the 12.5% TCA peel for 5 agonising minutes to a dry face before finally neutralising with baking soda. At around about 2 minuts into the peel, i frosted pretty much all over. Frosting is where your skin looks like it has sugar all over it. Normally people dont tend to frost at a 12.5 solution, but i certainly did. Afterwards i used antiseptic cream and eucerin healing oitment. I peeled for about 5 days, which the entire epidermis pretty much came off in sheets (Literally peeling like crazy). After those 5 days, it took about 3 more days for my skin to calm down and WOW. It actually looks pretty nice now. Looks pretty normal and healthy. Moisturiser actually works and i can wash my face witout it feeling horrible. I waited about a week to be sure it was not just me, but the result are still here and it looks pretty decent for 1 peel. I am going to do a further 2 peels spaced 1 month apart because i have some hyperpigmentation from all the rubbish things i used to fix my problem over the years, which im sure some made it worse.

 

Anyway, the only reason why i think this worked is that it look off the damaged epidermis completely, with a  healthy one below in the process which makes the skin look more normal now. I am hoping my skin will look better after another 2, to get some collagen production going to sort some skin thinness.

 

If you have tried everything and have nothing to lose, try this method and take a week off to avoid the sun completely. But try the toner first. You may just be lacking lipids. I think my epidermis was just totally thin as it could possibly be. The TCA peels are known to thicken the Epidermis and Dermis after a few months, it just is risky and i only recommend it as a last resort as it is extremely strong stuff. If you have the money, i recommend you entirely to see a platsic sugeon or dermatologist to get a TCA peel, as you can mess it up quite easily if you don't know what you're doing.

 

It is crucial that you use a  good SPF too. I use CeraVe spf 30 because it is very good for breakout prone skin.

 

Hope i have been helpful

 

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Edited by xninja, 04 October 2013 - 04:49 AM.


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Posted 04 October 2013 - 10:53 PM

Ok it has been 8 weeks since i started the niacinamide and n-acatyl glucasmine spray in distilled water.

 

Results:

 

I'm afraid that i have had no change to my skin, but i have indeed found a fix to my problem and it has repaired and restored my skin trumendously. I give thanks to cubed for the advice and help along the way, and i hope the method has helped other people fix their problem. I believe that everyones skin is different, and requires different methods to fix problems that affect them. Even though the toner i used did not help me, what i did has indeed fixed my problem.

 

My problem was that i used a anti-bacterial agent for my acne that caused really terrible damage to the epidermis structure. Many would argue that the epidermis gets repaired by the skin every month, but it looked the same for about 3 years. The product i used made my skin look really thin and dehdrated, with a polished and plasticy look to the skin (Not nice). My skin was also somewhat crepey, but i think the reeason why it looked like that is that it was severely dehydrated. I tried over the many years with this problem to fix my issue, sometimes something worked, but it only worked for about 1 day. Anyway, more onto how i fixed my problem.

 

What i did was use glycolic acid cream for 1 week and a half to prep my skin to a mild TCA peel. The peel was 12.5%. I used the glycolic acid to remove the statum corneum for an even peel. I used alcohol on a cotton ball to remove fats (makes the peel penentrate better) from the skin after washing and applied the 12.5% TCA peel for 5 agonising minutes to a dry face before finally neutralising with baking soda. At around about 2 minuts into the peel, i frosted pretty much all over. Frosting is where your skin looks like it has sugar all over it. Normally people dont tend to frost at a 12.5 solution, but i certainly did. Afterwards i used antiseptic cream and eucerin healing oitment. I peeled for about 5 days, which the entire epidermis pretty much came off in sheets (Literally peeling like crazy). After those 5 days, it took about 3 more days for my skin to calm down and WOW. It actually looks pretty nice now. Looks pretty normal and healthy. Moisturiser actually works and i can wash my face witout it feeling horrible. I waited about a week to be sure it was not just me, but the result are still here and it looks pretty decent for 1 peel. I am going to do a further 2 peels spaced 1 month apart because i have some hyperpigmentation from all the rubbish things i used to fix my problem over the years, which im sure some made it worse.

 

Anyway, the only reason why i think this worked is that it look off the damaged epidermis completely, with a  healthy one below in the process which makes the skin look more normal now. I am hoping my skin will look better after another 2, to get some collagen production going to sort some skin thinness.

 

If you have tried everything and have nothing to lose, try this method and take a week off to avoid the sun completely. But try the toner first. You may just be lacking lipids. I think my epidermis was just totally thin as it could possibly be. The TCA peels are known to thicken the Epidermis and Dermis after a few months, it just is risky and i only recommend it as a last resort as it is extremely strong stuff. If you have the money, i recommend you entirely to see a platsic sugeon or dermatologist to get a TCA peel, as you can mess it up quite easily if you don't know what you're doing.

 

It is crucial that you use a  good SPF too. I use CeraVe spf 30 because it is very good for breakout prone skin.

 

Hope i have been helpful

 

Matt

 

 

wow, that's very risky of you. i personally think that sounds very harsh. and 8 weeks most certainly is not enough. it may take up to a year to completely heal the skin.

 

anyway, if it continues to work, please update us.

 

and try using beta glucan! seriously...it's another mild/safe treatment with good reviews and supposedly works fast. 


God bless :)

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:42 PM

hey i want to add that i have started using sunscreen, too. it has taken me a long time to commit to sunscreen because i have been so afraid of lotions but i think i have found one that is pretty good: it's by a company called everyday coconut and it's their daily facial lotion with 15spf...using zinc oxide as the blocker. so far i really like it and it doesn't make my face too oily. i think it's helping my skin to heal even better now that the sun is not beating down upon it daily.

 

http://www.realself....-years-sun-face

 

read that article. it's quite terrifying and i thank God He has shown me the importance of using sunscreen.

 

hope this is of further help, dears.


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 04:22 AM

If your skin is dehydrated collagen doesn't function properly right? I mean not only am I dealing with large pores from over exfoliating, my eyes seem to be hollowing out and I have dark smile lines aswell and I don't know if addressing the dehydration will resume normal collagen.. I started taking hyaluronic acid pills three days ago so I'll keep it posted. I live in the UK so I'm having a hard time locating beta glucans and niacin and NAG, sigh. My skin is dull and dairy increases my pore sizze and gives me acne. The doctors gave me tetracyline and I have no more acne, I think I'm gonna take these till I sort my skin out, in order to prevent scarring

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Posted 30 November 2013 - 02:06 PM


Just try to buy the products online. Use sunscreeen. Be patient. You have to heal your skin and then collagen can form properly. Avoiding the sun helps skin form collagen and cells properly.

If your skin is dehydrated collagen doesn't function properly right? I mean not only am I dealing with large pores from over exfoliating, my eyes seem to be hollowing out and I have dark smile lines aswell and I don't know if addressing the dehydration will resume normal collagen.. I started taking hyaluronic acid pills three days ago so I'll keep it posted. I live in the UK so I'm having a hard time locating beta glucans and niacin and NAG, sigh. My skin is dull and dairy increases my pore sizze and gives me acne. The doctors gave me tetracyline and I have no more acne, I think I'm gonna take these till I sort my skin out, in order to prevent scarring


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Posted 07 January 2014 - 07:06 PM

I still don't know why many of you do not believe you have certain dermatitis which cause seemingly dehydrated looks on your skin.

 

Skin barriers can recover easily without the disruption of external factors ( fungal, bacteria etc) just like those people who have fire burned skin could recover within a few months and they do not have visible pores or dehydrated look.

 

Malassezia is commensal which means most people have it without many problems but under certain conditions they can over grow and cause many different skin problems. They can invade skin especially when the skin barriers are weak and damage (by soap or harsh skin products) or the immune systems are weak.

 

Two years ago, I started to have many acnes and greasy face after using facial foam with soap base (I already had mild dandruff before this). Most acnes disappeared after a few weeks of tea tree oily treatment but I started to have many whiteheads, blackheads and enlarged pores, skin was still oily. I guessed that's the result malassezia escaped from the upper layer and moved to pores. I squzze some whiteheads and blackheas from my nose and found they were just similar to dandruff just like dandruff in facial pores. I found the same type of dead skin around my neck, my chest and my back (I got acnes around these spots too but now I know they were indeed Malassezia/pityrosporum folliculitis). I knew all this mess was caused by fungal after doing my own research. Even the skin oil was very irritating since it was no longer the same skin oily after metabolizing my malassezia. I also found an article from a dermatologist and he said "Skin looks dehydrated but in fact it is inflammed". I was quite sure this was malassezia dermatitis which is still not known by many dermatologists and patients.

 

I started to try some antifungal topicals and they did not work quite well, I guess malassezia infected too deep for those topical to reach the spot. Oral antifungal was the solution to me. I found itraconazole has the lowest side effects among all others, I used this before to treat my fungal nails. I took 200mg tiwce a day for a week and stoped for 3 weeks and repeated the same for 2 months. After 8 weeks, my smooth skin came back without the greasy feeling, dandruff stopped, most whiteheads and all acnes on chest and back were gone. Malassezia is tough occupants and they are very hard to eliminate so I take one 200 mg itraconazole every 3 weeks to keep it in bay at the sametime I have my liver function monitored too but I have no issue with my liver function by now.

 

Many dermatologists refused to treat malassezia as they think it is commensal instead they prescribe antibotics which make the skin problems worse, the reason is simply antibiotics kill good bacteria which can live against malassezia.

 

The weakened skin barriers lead to infection of bacteria or fungal, while the skin inflammation is the real cause. Skin inflammation do not have to be red but in many cases they can be invisible, people just do not realise this.

 

I hope my stories can add some insights to people who insist in skin barriers play a big role to this dehydrated skin problems. I do not mean malassezia causes problems to everyone but try think about every possiblilties and not to stick to one route. It's alwasy trial and errors when dealing this kind of frustrating problems.



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Posted 17 January 2014 - 01:50 AM

What works is using a healing substance such as (oat beta glucans & niacinamide & n acetyl glucosamine) twice a day. Cleansing your skin not too often. Protecting your skin with a good UVA covering sunscreen like L'Oreal UV Perfect with Tinosorb and Mexoryl (the best UVA protectors).


That's been healing my skin lately even better.

 

So I know there is hope.

 

Don't give up. 


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 01:11 AM

Using sunscreen is a great idea! Use lotion, spray, gel or other tropical product that absorbs or reflects some of the sun's ultraviolet (UV) radiation on the skin exposed to sunlight. Just select the right SPF level depending on the damage on your skin. Update us on what will happen! 



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Posted 01 April 2014 - 12:27 PM

How can you even think of using sun screen?

Your skin is damaged and sun screen is full of shit. No matter what kind you use. You think that a little bit of sunlight is going to ruin your skin? I think you already did a far better job yourself. The last thing damaged skin needs is poreclogging, fragranced, drying sun screen. 

 

I have dehydrated skin too, after reading most of the posts in this thread I think it might not be as severe as what some of you seem to deal with. 

 

Cubed I don't understand how you can offer advice so easily. These people will blindly follow what ever they read online which is why there skin is how it is. I did the same btw.  Do you still not understand that products work very differently on people's skin? When cosmetic products destroyed your skin you want to cure it by using even more???  I can only tell you one thing: if your problems are as bad as it sounds GO SEE A FVCKING DOCTOR. And stop using shit on your face. And if you don't understand it: In your case EVERYTHING is SHIT.



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Posted 06 April 2014 - 03:31 PM

BUMP!! 

How is everyone getting on with treating their dehydrated skin? Ive been putting oatmeal (beta glutens) in a bowl of luke warm water and spooning the cream off the top to cleanse my face, leaving it on for 10 minutes then splashing with cold water, followed by argan oil. It seems to be helping a lot. Although my skin still looks dehydrated. May take a long time to heal. Was thinking of adding pure shea butter after the argan oil. Thoughts?

Hope everyone is managing to finally get somewhere with a cure!



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Posted 21 May 2014 - 04:29 PM

Ive recently read studies that using a 2% niacinimide (aka nicotinimide) can reduce the sebum creation on skin which in effect helps with acne. With regard to dehydrated skin (loss of water content) would using this product cause dry (loss of oil content) issues in the long run.

There is plenty to say that it helps repair a skin barrier, but as with everything I think using it without going over board may be essential.

thoughts?

SOURCE: http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/16766489



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Posted 04 June 2014 - 10:49 AM

Just a quick update guys. I've been using Retin-A for about 6-7 months now and It's made my skin far better than what it was previously. I've also found an Oil-free SPF 30 sunscreen to use in the day that protects from the suns rays. I will continue to use the Retin-A as it's really awesome stuff. It has made my skin texture look lots better, evened out the tone a touch, and made my skin hold on to moisture more easily. My skin still gets dry and peels though, but that can be greatly reduced by using CeraVe cream at night 1hr after.

 

So if you guys haven't found anything that works yet, give some Retin-A a try (use 0.025% at first with zinc oxide spf 30 sunscreen).



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Posted 06 June 2014 - 12:57 AM

I would say that the main suggestion here would be: drink more watter. Better green tea. I used matcha green tea supplied by Pure Chimp  and I have meneged to get rid of the problem connected to my skin.



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Posted 14 June 2014 - 12:41 AM

Drinking plenty of water every day or some herbal teas, natural fruit juices can help you to re-hydrate your body and skin. You can also apply some natural facial masks that have coconut oil or argan oil. Oils are the best skin moisturizer and it leaves our skin hydrated and smooth. 



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Posted 16 June 2014 - 03:20 PM

Drinking plenty of water every day or some herbal teas, natural fruit juices can help you to re-hydrate your body and skin. You can also apply some natural facial masks that have coconut oil or argan oil. Oils are the best skin moisturizer and it leaves our skin hydrated and smooth. 

Your confusing the issue here prettysam, dehydrated skin simply means that the outer layer that holds the water content in the skin is damaged, the skin still supports itself with sebum (oils). dehydrated skin is completely different to dry skin.

Dry = Lack of  Oil.
Dehydrated = Lack of Water.

I agree that drinking water will help your skin however with dehydrated skin no matter how much water you ingest the skin will simply evaporate and not be able to hold onto. Facial masks need to be avoided as the skins barrier is already broken and the process of rebuilding this is by way of extreme gentle daily regimen. Oils wont solve the issue either as oils only help skin that are low in sebum secretion, this is a sign of dry skin not dehydrated skin. Dehydrated skin has already enough oil created and even more so as its lack of water content confuses the glands. Please research before giving incorrect advice to people suffering from this.

 

I would say that the main suggestion here would be: drink more watter. Better green tea. I used matcha green tea supplied by Pure Chimp  and I have meneged to get rid of the problem connected to my skin.

sallyy75, I agree that drinking fluids is a priority but with severe dehydrated skin it will not solve this issue alone. Drinking detoxifiying hot drinks does little to nothing by way of solving this issue. I beleive your issue was not connected to dehydrated skin as dehydrated skin is a chronic skin issue and not something easily solved.



Just a quick update guys. I've been using Retin-A for about 6-7 months now and It's made my skin far better than what it was previously. I've also found an Oil-free SPF 30 sunscreen to use in the day that protects from the suns rays. I will continue to use the Retin-A as it's really awesome stuff. It has made my skin texture look lots better, evened out the tone a touch, and made my skin hold on to moisture more easily. My skin still gets dry and peels though, but that can be greatly reduced by using CeraVe cream at night 1hr after.

 

So if you guys haven't found anything that works yet, give some Retin-A a try (use 0.025% at first with zinc oxide spf 30 sunscreen).

Kudos on the skin improvment - glad to hear good results!

6-7 months is a long time with this chemical - is your skin sore?

Have you before and after pictures please? 

What kind of sunscreen did you use?



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Posted 17 June 2014 - 12:34 AM

Drinking plenty of water every day or some herbal teas, natural fruit juices can help you to re-hydrate your body and skin. You can also apply some natural facial masks that have coconut oil or argan oil. Oils are the best skin moisturizer and it leaves our skin hydrated and smooth. 

Your confusing the issue here prettysam, dehydrated skin simply means that the outer layer that holds the water content in the skin is damaged, the skin still supports itself with sebum (oils). dehydrated skin is completely different to dry skin.

Dry = Lack of  Oil.
Dehydrated = Lack of Water.

I agree that drinking water will help your skin however with dehydrated skin no matter how much water you ingest the skin will simply evaporate and not be able to hold onto. Facial masks need to be avoided as the skins barrier is already broken and the process of rebuilding this is by way of extreme gentle daily regimen. Oils wont solve the issue either as oils only help skin that are low in sebum secretion, this is a sign of dry skin not dehydrated skin. Dehydrated skin has already enough oil created and even more so as its lack of water content confuses the glands. Please research before giving incorrect advice to people suffering from this.

 

>I would say that the main suggestion here would be: drink more watter. Better green tea. I used matcha green tea supplied by Pure Chimp  and I have meneged to get rid of the problem connected to my skin.

sallyy75, I agree that drinking fluids is a priority but with severe dehydrated skin it will not solve this issue alone. Drinking detoxifiying hot drinks does little to nothing by way of solving this issue. I beleive your issue was not connected to dehydrated skin as dehydrated skin is a chronic skin issue and not something easily solved.



Just a quick update guys. I've been using Retin-A for about 6-7 months now and It's made my skin far better than what it was previously. I've also found an Oil-free SPF 30 sunscreen to use in the day that protects from the suns rays. I will continue to use the Retin-A as it's really awesome stuff. It has made my skin texture look lots better, evened out the tone a touch, and made my skin hold on to moisture more easily. My skin still gets dry and peels though, but that can be greatly reduced by using CeraVe cream at night 1hr after.

 

So if you guys haven't found anything that works yet, give some Retin-A a try (use 0.025% at first with zinc oxide spf 30 sunscreen).

Kudos on the skin improvment - glad to hear good results!

6-7 months is a long time with this chemical - is your skin sore?

Have you before and after pictures please? 

What kind of sunscreen did you use?

 

My skin was dry and flaked alot (Not much redness). I just used it every 2 days until I upped it to everyday for about 7 months. I think Retin-A should be used if you have tried all other means . After coming off, the dry skin went and looked great ever since. I used Blue Lizard SPF 30 as it's oil-free.



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Posted 11 August 2014 - 08:53 AM

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 11:09 AM

Spritz face with water all day, whenever you can.  Evian also makes aerosol facial mist, but it's unnecessarily costly.  

 

Add a small amount of Vitamin E oil to the water, shake well.  (The E is to protect the damaged epidermis so the skin can retain water.)

 

Oil rebound comes from both dehydration and overmedicating/overwashing, which destroys the the skin's water barrier. 


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Posted 17 September 2014 - 03:25 PM

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I have that really lined, crinkly, crepey, roughy, open pored looking skin texture also. My skin became severely dehydrated from a clinic that ruined my skin and gave me bad advice on my home care routine.

I am currently using Osmosis and Cosmedix products, which are supposed to help with skin barrier issues. I am using Retin aldehyde (spelling?) 0.6% every night, which also has niacinamide and chlorella vulgaris in it etc. I also use a mild Aha/BHA cleanser every second night, and the other nights I use a deep cleanser that doesn't destroy skin lipids or the barrier but uses coconut surfactants in it I think. I then use a moisturiser with hyaluronic acid in it, Shea butter etc and it doesn't break me out, followed by an SPF that contains d-beta fructan, which is supposed to increase water moisturiser content.

My aesthetician is monitoring my skin very closely and my routine. My clogged pores and acne has calmed down heaps, and the products above don't make my skin tighter or break me out. She wants to add a mild aha/BHA serum for the day for the few pimples I still get.

I've only been on this routine for a few months, but my crinkly texture doesn't get better. She says my skin isn't as dehydrated, and sometimes it feels better. But confusingly, as my beard hair grows, my skin looks rougher and more dehydrated. When I trim it very closely (read TRIM not SHAVE) my skin looks a little less lined and rough. Very weird.

I want to continue on the retinaldehyde because I want it to help produce collagen in case my dermis is thinned from over exfoliation and chemical peels. I also want it to help the atrophic scarring that has resulted recently before my skin got under control.

Is there any test I can do to check the skin, and it's water content, as well as the thickness of my dermis? I was thinking the VISIA...


I've seen people with worse acne atrophic scarring than mine, but they still have this nice plump skin. My whole skin looks worse because the texture looks so rough and textured and crinkly. It gets me so so down.


Again a long winded question/answer/whine, but I couldn't help it lol. :/

Edited by Sydboi, 17 September 2014 - 03:27 PM.





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