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Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:57 PM

I've had no luck with much this past month. I've bit the bullet and decided to start treatment using Retin-A (Tretinoin). The treatment consits of using 0.05% cream every other day or and continuing for however long i require. The reason being is that tretinoin is known to stimulate collagen production nto the skin, helping me repair the damage i have attributd over the years of not using sunscreen and acne products together. i have accumilated damage to the dermis from benzoyl peroxide usage without sunscreen and too high percentage and using very strong drying products that have caused skin barrier damage. I know you mentioned it takes 3 months before results to show themselves for the niacinamide, but i'm going to do this anyway as i believe it can repair the skin over a long time.  Retin-a initually thins the epidermis because it causes a peeling effect to the skin, makign the skin shed quicker and you look quite rough for few months. I've used it for a week and i've just got alot of peeling and thats about it. If youre skin is very sensitive, this will make you have major problems as this product is strong.

 

Anyway. Tretinoin has been shown to thicken the dermis and epidermis over time and that is what i am attemping to do!

 

i don't advise you to do this. use niacinamide and glucosamine complex. if you need to use a cream, fine, use olay's total effects tone correcting night cream but for goodness sakes don't use tretinoin. it will take just as long if you used only nia + nag. i used tretinoin and it didn't work a lick. i don't know, but you really need to trust the process and just use the niacinamide and nag. 

 

but if you want to take the plunge and use tretinoin, go ahead...but i strongly advise against it. 

 

tretinoin was never tested to heal skin dryness. never. only pimples and wrinkles.

 

niacinamide and NAG have been tested and proven to heal the skin barrier. it has healed mines. it just takes time. 

 

stop obsessing in the mirror...put the solutions on day and night, and LIVE! live your life and before you know it, your skin will be better!


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Posted 01 July 2013 - 04:15 PM

Is it bad for your skin to use niacin for a long period of time?



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 09:20 AM

How long can I store the serum and should I add vitamin E to extend its shelf life? Do you add anything to make the serum absorb better? And can I add EGCG as a bonus and use seabuckthorn seed oil along the regimen? So you'll just mix niacinamide, NAG, purified water to spray bottle or something and spray it to your face? So how should I cleanse my face, only purified water once a day or few days a week? I get lots of white dried sebum or something to my face and it will build up fast and its really visible, so washing my face only few times a weeks sounds horrible. I might have seb derm, even my dermatologist suspected that but she wasn't sure. I tried Nizoral shampoo which only made things worse. Now Im using one seb derm cream from BiON and seabuckthorn seed oil. I have redness on cheek area around nose, nose, chin, temples and some random red areas on my cheeks. I have also unlimited amount of tiny skin colored bumps which are not even symmetrical. My skin pretty much resembles oranges texture. I have blackheads, small red spots, bumps, some acne and keratosis pilaris like shit on my body. YAY. I also get really sharp itching to same certain spots on my face occasionally and weird tingling around body like someone using my body as a keyboard and typing gently with fingers.

I think my skin problems started when I started to get this white sebum out of my pores and I began to scratch this rough dried sebum shit out of my skin, from face and body. Then I started to use harsh products like  bp, aha, bha and retin-a which in the end made my skin lots of worse. I feel like it goes worse year by year. I don't know what is the problem, dehyrdarted skins symptoms are similar to my skins, it also might be seb derm or something really weird. I never get normal zits and this doenst look like regular acne at all, i just have redness, small bumps and white shit coming out of my pores. Horrible, id rather have smooth skins with some random spots here and there than this ancient ruin. And im 21 years old lol. Maybe your dehydrated skin regimen might help. 
 



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 12:13 PM

Is it bad for your skin to use niacin for a long period of time?

 

if you're worried about use of niacinamide, then just use the glucosamine. i use the glucosamine only and my skin is fine. if you have dark marks, the niacinamide will help them fade faster if you use niacinamide and nag together. if you just use nag to help the skin barrier then just use it. nag means glucosamine (n acetyl glucosamine)



How long can I store the serum and should I add vitamin E to extend its shelf life? Do you add anything to make the serum absorb better? And can I add EGCG as a bonus and use seabuckthorn seed oil along the regimen? So you'll just mix niacinamide, NAG, purified water to spray bottle or something and spray it to your face? So how should I cleanse my face, only purified water once a day or few days a week? I get lots of white dried sebum or something to my face and it will build up fast and its really visible, so washing my face only few times a weeks sounds horrible. I might have seb derm, even my dermatologist suspected that but she wasn't sure. I tried Nizoral shampoo which only made things worse. Now Im using one seb derm cream from BiON and seabuckthorn seed oil. I have redness on cheek area around nose, nose, chin, temples and some random red areas on my cheeks. I have also unlimited amount of tiny skin colored bumps which are not even symmetrical. My skin pretty much resembles oranges texture. I have blackheads, small red spots, bumps, some acne and keratosis pilaris like shit on my body. YAY. I also get really sharp itching to same certain spots on my face occasionally and weird tingling around body like someone using my body as a keyboard and typing gently with fingers.

I think my skin problems started when I started to get this white sebum out of my pores and I began to scratch this rough dried sebum shit out of my skin, from face and body. Then I started to use harsh products like  bp, aha, bha and retin-a which in the end made my skin lots of worse. I feel like it goes worse year by year. I don't know what is the problem, dehyrdarted skins symptoms are similar to my skins, it also might be seb derm or something really weird. I never get normal zits and this doenst look like regular acne at all, i just have redness, small bumps and white shit coming out of my pores. Horrible, id rather have smooth skins with some random spots here and there than this ancient ruin. And im 21 years old lol. Maybe your dehydrated skin regimen might help. 
 

 

try looking at previous posts, it's kind of hard for me to keep repeating the same information.

 

anyway, the mixture doesn't need any preservatives. all components are pretty stable. how amazing is that?!

 

and no don't add all that other stuff, i don't know what that stuff is or what benefits they have for the skin.

 

just use niacinamide and nag. if you can, just use nag...because i think it will help your skin heal itself better over time, that's what i have been using by itself for past couple months and my skin has healed in leaps and bounds. the niacinamide can be used here and there for an extra push i guess or help prevent acne.

 

as for face washing, use the mixture...spray the face...then use a clean piece of cloth or papertowel and gently wipe your face. spray face again. leave alone.

 

do it once a day. dont go overboard.

 

for dead skin accumulation, gently remove with your hands/finger nails.

 

aaaand, as for the other things, try taking vitamin d supplements. they might help your other skin problems. get your vitamin d levels checked....and eat some kale.

 

i hope this helps my dear.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 02:37 AM

Thanks cubed you are so helpful :) so is the niacin known to be damaging to the skin? Do you recon just the flip would help without the niacin then? 



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Posted 06 July 2013 - 11:18 AM

Just a question for anyone to answer here: How did everybodies dehydrated skin become that way? Was there a product you used for example?

 

For me it was using a anti-bacterial cleanser for acne that you leave on for 5 minutes then wash off.

 

Also, has anyone looked at supplementing Hyaluronic acid internally. I've seen some threads about some users getting dehydrated skin from topicals and one user has used capsules for skin that contain hyaluronic acid that has helped that person completely recover.

 

I'm also wondering whether we can make a private blog to share photos? I dunno maybe it might help us see how similar we look. Just a thought.



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Posted 07 July 2013 - 06:32 PM

If you use just the gluco. Are the measurements half a teaspoon to the same amount of water



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Posted 08 July 2013 - 04:17 AM

I found a topic on essentialdayspa.com called "Retin A creating open pores and bad texture". Don't worry, the thread has turned me off using that drug. However, a user on there called Skindeep77 who is describing her problem as exactly as our own. Her dehydrated and damaged skin was caused by Retin-A and she had the problem for nearly 2 years! She took supplements that contained hyaluronic acid that returned her skin to the way it was before the damage.

 

the supplements were: (All taken internally)

Neocell Fish Collage with HA  (she dropped this one later on, but i think it might be wise to use it)

Source Naturals Skin Eternal Hyaluronic acid (she kept on using this one)

 

she took these ones later on...

Evening primrose oil (For the omegas i guess)

Nutiva Hemp seed oil (rich in omegas)

 

she also states that she used Elastica Bounce back cream as well as changing that to CeraVe PM. She first stated that she used CeraVe at the start but it did not work as the skin did not respond. However, once she used the supplements and used it again, it worked for her a second time around. That's some food for thoguth as when i used it a couple of months ago, it did not seem to do much.

 

I've ordered some hyaluronic acid tablets from a different brand (hopefully they're going to do the same thing) and recently started to take Vitamin C tablets too. I probably will strat with some Omegas also when i get the chance.



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Posted 08 July 2013 - 08:41 PM

If you use just the gluco. Are the measurements half a teaspoon to the same amount of water

 

just use 1 teaspoon of nag and then the rest 3 oz of distilled water



I found a topic on essentialdayspa.com called "Retin A creating open pores and bad texture". Don't worry, the thread has turned me off using that drug. However, a user on there called Skindeep77 who is describing her problem as exactly as our own. Her dehydrated and damaged skin was caused by Retin-A and she had the problem for nearly 2 years! She took supplements that contained hyaluronic acid that returned her skin to the way it was before the damage.

 

the supplements were: (All taken internally)

Neocell Fish Collage with HA  (she dropped this one later on, but i think it might be wise to use it)

Source Naturals Skin Eternal Hyaluronic acid (she kept on using this one)

 

she took these ones later on...

Evening primrose oil (For the omegas i guess)

Nutiva Hemp seed oil (rich in omegas)

 

she also states that she used Elastica Bounce back cream as well as changing that to CeraVe PM. She first stated that she used CeraVe at the start but it did not work as the skin did not respond. However, once she used the supplements and used it again, it worked for her a second time around. That's some food for thoguth as when i used it a couple of months ago, it did not seem to do much.

 

I've ordered some hyaluronic acid tablets from a different brand (hopefully they're going to do the same thing) and recently started to take Vitamin C tablets too. I probably will strat with some Omegas also when i get the chance.

 

this sounds amazing ninjax...i might try taking hyaluronic acid tablets...i don't know if i ever tried them before. i remember reading about them....but i dont remember if i ever bought any and used it...it MIGHT help! thanks again...yeah you can use cerave pm or olay's total effects night moisturizing tone correcting cream. if skindeep77 said that worked for her, you should give it a try. i think that the cerave pm may have worked because it has niacinamide in it...which helps with the skin barrier.


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Posted 09 July 2013 - 04:45 PM

how many mg's are the hyaluronic tablets?



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Posted 10 July 2013 - 11:05 AM

how many mg's are the hyaluronic tablets?

 

http://www.sourcenat...roducts/GP1726/

 

these are the tablets she took 2 in the morning, 2 at night



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Posted 10 July 2013 - 11:24 AM

I live in England, can I take any hyaluronic tablets?



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Posted 10 July 2013 - 01:33 PM

Also, do you think the nicinamide makes a difference or will nag do just a good a job on its own



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 03:53 AM

I live in England, can I take any hyaluronic tablets?

Yes, you can get them from many online retailers. Niacinamide is best used as well as it has shown in studies to rebuild the skin barrier.



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:15 PM

What are the minimum mg's you should take to see the skin benefits? As they are pretty expensive and I dont have a lot of money



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Posted 14 July 2013 - 05:30 AM

I'd say she took 200mg a day. The hyaluronic acid she took had collagen in them too, so try and get those ones. She mentioned that it helped in 2 months of taking them.



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Posted 14 July 2013 - 01:48 PM

I wanna try this but its quite expensive



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Posted 14 July 2013 - 03:37 PM

Don't supplement with hyaluronic acid, use it topically instead. Like with collagen pills, it can hinder the body's natural ability to produce collagen if taken orally. It's a controversial supplement and might harm you more than it can help you.  I use a B5 & hyaluronic acid serum on my face and it helps with texture, hydration, and scarring.



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Posted 15 July 2013 - 01:12 AM

Don't supplement with hyaluronic acid, use it topically instead. Like with collagen pills, it can hinder the body's natural ability to produce collagen if taken orally. It's a controversial supplement and might harm you more than it can help you.  I use a B5 & hyaluronic acid serum on my face and it helps with texture, hydration, and scarring.

 

but hyaluronic acid on the face, in the long term, damages the skin. it doesn't work. it keeps the skin wet...therefore causing damage. DO NOT use hyaluronic acid, folks. it will cause wrinkles. it plumps up the face temporarily but doesn't heal.

 

niacianamide, n acetyl glucosamine, and even B5 HEAL...hyaluronic acid doesn't....



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Posted 15 July 2013 - 09:24 AM

Don't supplement with hyaluronic acid, use it topically instead. Like with collagen pills, it can hinder the body's natural ability to produce collagen if taken orally. It's a controversial supplement and might harm you more than it can help you.  I use a B5 & hyaluronic acid serum on my face and it helps with texture, hydration, and scarring.

 

but hyaluronic acid on the face, in the long term, damages the skin. it doesn't work. it keeps the skin wet...therefore causing damage. DO NOT use hyaluronic acid, folks. it will cause wrinkles. it plumps up the face temporarily but doesn't heal.

 

niacianamide, n acetyl glucosamine, and even B5 HEAL...hyaluronic acid doesn't....

Where did you read this about hyaluronic? It's used in fillers too, so I'm surprised you say it causes damage long term. Do you have any sources to back this up?






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