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[Cubed]

what about oils ? I have to wear makeup to face the world but I use grapeseed oil to get it off. Either way my skin is the coming close to being the worst its ever been, well my forehead anyway. so done with everything. honestly not much left I havent tried that isnt a chemical

Oils will stop ur skin from creating its own natural moisture. No synthetic oils natural oils or anything else. Just niacinamide and distilled water. Give it a try and trust ur skin. It may work with make up...but i say...be brave...face the world without make up so that u can experience the results of having ur own skin be healthy and maintain itself with the help of niacinamide.

Please give it a try and use pure niacinamide!! Ok?

Update me either by inbox or this thread. Take care

[Cubed]

okay also I was off on my measurements...5 percent of 3 oz would mean u need to put a little less than 1 teapson...like .9 of a teaspoon to make a 5 percent concentration...

[DanTheMan123]

Im in the same boat. Skin is super dehydrated and raw from acne products ranging from proactive to retin-a. I'm discontinuing my natural oils now and I'm gonna let my face heal properly. Does anyone know If it's best to do a full caveman where you never wash, or should you wash with distilled water once in a while?

[royalty]

I have same problem, i will wash my face only at night and use olive oil to moisturize. I will be back everyday and tell how it goes!

[rarejr]

I been using niacinamide and water for a week and I dont see any improvements yet.I will update in a week

[brenner8000]

I been using niacinamide and water for a week and I dont see any improvements yet.I will update in a week

hi there, I've been in the same boat as you... Skin got wrecked from too many products. I've actually been doing full caveman (no water) for a couple of months and I gotta say my skin is better than it's been in years, it's clearly healing very rapidly. 

 

Problem is the dead skin. As soon as I started the caveman the dead skin built up within like 3 weeks and it's incredibly visible. It only builds up on my cheeks, which was always the most damaged part of my face. I left the dead skin on for like 2 months then I took it off. My cheeks looked VERY red and raw when I took it off, but after 2 days the redness faded and I could see my cheeks were actually very healed! The skin looked younger and moisturized, the marks were mostly faded, and the skin tone was softer. 

 

The dead skin returned very quickly though. It's now been 3 months since I removed the dead skin (I'm very determined so I don't really mind looking gross for a few months if my skin heals). Pieces of the dead skin are actually starting to fall off on their own now, and from what I can see the skin underneath is starting to look flawless. Although it'll probably take a little longer to be totally done healing.

 

Anyway, if you haven't tried the full caveman, I urge you to do it. The healing process is gross but it works.

[rarejr]

Here is some pictures of my dehydrated skin.this is only my forehead ,I couldn't find a angle for my cheeks.

 

 

In both of these pictures I raise my eyebrows so you can see the tiny lines more. My skin looks more worse but this is the best I can do.I will post more pictures this week.

I have an update for my niacinamide and distilled water I been using .This is Day 10. I had this dry red patch on my left cheek that never went away.And now its looks 60 percent better.This is the only improvement for now.I will post more updates every week.

 

 

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Edited by rarejr, 23 May 2013 - 08:31 AM.

[rarejr]

UPDATE DAY 18 no improvements yet.I will update next week.

 

But I think why most people don't cure their dehydrated skin is because If it takes 10 weeks for the skin barrier to rebuild.Then I have to let my skin do it job and not mess it up in those 10 weeks.If I scrub my face too hard or wash it too much I will mess up the whole process and have to start over again.That is why Im going to give my skin two weeks and then start exfoliate with a muslin cloth.I already told you how im washing my face gently(ALOE and Clean water,no tap water.Yes I have dead skin on my face but the SKIN BARRIER is made up of 15 to 20 LAYERS of dead skin.

 

READ THIS BELOW  source: http://en.wikipedia....Stratum_corneum

 

The stratum corneum (Latin for 'horned layer') is the outermost layer of the epidermis, consisting of dead cells (corneocytes) that lack nuclei andorganelles.

The purpose of the stratum corneum is to form a barrier to protect underlying tissue from infection, dehydration, chemicals and mechanical stress.Desquamation, the process of cell shedding from the surface of the stratum corneum, balances proliferating keratinocytes that form in the stratum basale. These cells migrate through the epidermis towards the surface in a journey that takes approximately fourteen days.

 

YOU CAN READ MORE HERE http://en.wikipedia....Stratum_corneum

 

So the stratum corneum is the skin barrier.And if you read it.Stratum corneum job is to from a barrier to protect of infection and DEHYDRATION.

 

Loook at this pictures http://en.wikipedia....:Skinlayers.png     and http://en.wikipedia....l_Nevus_10x.JPG

 

you can see that the stratum corneum have many dead skin layers.So I think we have little of dead skin layers.  GOOD LUCK

Edited by rarejr, 01 June 2013 - 12:00 PM.

[xninja]

I think you should incorporate N-Acetly Glucosamine into the niacinamide toner. They apparently work together to create better results, as somebody else on EDS forums has the same problem and used this combination to fix their dehydrated problem. Interesting stuff about the epidermis, but having lots of skin cells forming  barrier could prevent the absorption of niacinamide and perhaps getting a gentle microfibre cloth to exfolate might work better for that absoprtion. My advice is, if it looks worse, the product is not helping. However, when i exfoliate gently, it makes the skin look slightly better. If it doesn't look worse, i think that its not doing harm and could perk you up a bit.

 

I am too suffering from what you describe. Mine came about when i used a cleanser for acne that you have to leave on for a few minute before washing. It has all the hallmarks of bad advice, as the cleasner contains sulfate and an anti-baterial agent that i think was the cause of my problem. Basiclly i have dehydrated skin, like yours, and you can tell because it looks drained, has no glow or moisture to it, doesn't moisturize at all by using any cream or lotion. sometimes it can be oily, but not by much. My skin can sometimes look somewhat polished on my cheeks when it gets bad.

 

Could you describe what the rest of your facial skin is like?

 

I am going to do the same thing as what you are doing with the DIY toner. I also wash my face  with Cerave hydrating cleanser. It doesn't make it worse and washing can be somewhat good as the barrier can still hold some water. If i did not wash for a week it would just look worse because there would be a severe lack water in the skin. I also finalise by using Cerave PM. It has ceramides, niacinamide and cholesteral in it. It's meant to be good for this sort of thing, but i have regreatably not seen any miracles or good results with this product, although i have only used it for a month.

 

I hope things get better in the end for you.

[rarejr]

Xninja I will add n-acetylene glucosamine into the niacin .im going to order it today and should get it on Friday.i will post updates every week.yes you are right cubed message me and told me she use niacin and n- acetylene glucosamine,

My skin is super sensentivy,open pores.small tiny lines on my forehead.loss it glow.skin look dull.feel soft but look dull and dehydrated.my skin still is oily but it doesn't help the dehydrated skin.i have dark circle.everything you describe I have too.

I also get dead skin on my face fast.maybe because it's soo dehydrated.im going to start exfoliate this Friday. I just wanted to give my skin 2 week break. I got soo many lotions and creams and none help the dehydrated look.I even pay 100 dollar for a serum you use for 21 night and it didn't help at all. So I know it's a skin barrier problem.im going to start exfoliate once a week.how many times you going to exfoliate a week?

[xninja]

When you rub your skin, does it somewhat feel a bit like tissue paper? That is a common trait of dehydrated skin. The  oily skin is common whether you have dehydrated skin or not. I used to have very oily skin and it was not dehydrated. Now my skin is not so much oily, due to the cleanser i used, and now it is dehydrated.

 

It is my perrsonal belief that no cream or lotion will indeed make it better. It just doesn't seem to work that way when it comes to damaged skin. There has to be an active in the product for a change to occur. Somedays, do you ever have relief. Have you just had one day where you've woken up and looked in the mirror and looked good or better? I sometimes get that when i wake up and look in the mirror. It can look good, but then within an hour or two it's all gone to hell

 

I'm unsure about how many times i will exfoliate. I might try once every two days or even might start every day after a while, depending on how my skin reacts. Exfoliating in itself is not bad, it's just the methods used to exfoliate that are sometimes bad. They can micro tear the surface and cause more problems. That is why i have bought a microfiber face flannel. Its designed for the face and has many microfibers thinner than human hair. You can't get anymore gentle then that.

 

I've seen many people mention the caveman method to repair the dehydrated skin conditon. It's really not a pretty solution as it causes you to look even worse for a long time. But if all else fails, that will be my final solution before i see a dermatologist and get a skin biopspy.

Edited by xninja, 03 June 2013 - 11:01 AM.

[rarejr]

Yes it does feel like tissue paper 100%.yup some days my skin looks good and then 1 hr later looks bad. I hope this two active work

 

you put 1 teaspoon of the niacin powder into 3 ounces of distilled water and half of 1 teaspoon of n-acety lglucosamine powder

 

This will make a Niacin 5% and n-acety lglucosamine 2%       just spray it on your face day and night.

18 teaspoon of distilled water will make 3 ounces of distilled water. no need for any lotions or oil.

Edited by rarejr, 04 June 2013 - 09:43 AM.

[xninja]

I just got my Niacinamide and NAG today. I put 1 teaspoon of Niacinamide and 1/2 a teaspoon of NAG into around about 3oz of Distilled water. I put it into a spray bottle and will use twice a day for as long as it takes. there is one issue though. What about preservatives? I'm unsure if this DIY recipe will need a preservative to stop it going bad.

 

No lotions or oil either? I'm unsure about that. I think it might be better to use something alongside it.

 

Day 1 starting for me guess I am 20 days behind you atleast.

[WishClean]

To the OP: are you using niacin or niacinamide? There is a difference between the 2. Did you notice an improvement so far?

As for preservatives if you are making your own serum/ cream, try glycerin. I ordered NiaSerum and the ingredients are: 12% Niacinamide USP, water, glycerol BP (glycerin).

Edited by WishClean, 05 June 2013 - 07:17 PM.

[rarejr]

Im using niacinamide and NAG.I will post an update this saturday

Edited by rarejr, 05 June 2013 - 07:20 PM.

[rarejr]

I can't update today 6/8/2013 because I didn't receive my muslin cloth.I Will receive the muslin cloth on Monday 6/10/2013 I will post update on Monday.

 

I need the muslin cloth to exfoliate the dead skin on my face.

[xninja]

Be careful when using the cloth. You only want to wipe the skin, not scrub. Have you also considered seeing a dermatologist? I'm thinking about seeing one.

[rarejr]

Thanks for tip.i will not scrub.i will see one if the niacin dont work

[rarejr]

UPDATE Day 30 Niacin and NAG..

 

Last night I exfoliate my face with a muslin cloth ,I did it very gently.  I didn't remove all of the dead skin because I didn't want to irritate my skin. After that  this afternoon I was looking at my face seeing if it improve and its about 30% better.  This is only 4 weeks. So I got 4 more weeks left to see a major improvement 

 

I plan on doing this  for a total of 10 weeks. I should see a major improvement in 4 weeks or less.  I can see that my skin is more even tone.And the redness is almost all gone.  The dehydration skin improve about 30%.

    

 

If anyone have any tips or ideas to help dehydration skin please post here.       Im doing this to restore my skin barrier and help my dehydration skin.

 

I also started taking fish oils and evening primrose oil.

 

1 more thing I also started putting some evening primrose oil on my right temple next to my eye to see if that help my skin.Just testing

 

Hope this help

Edited by rarejr, 12 June 2013 - 06:08 PM.

[MissT22]

Do u put anything on top of the niacin?  Do u just spray it on?  And soak the face?