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Right when you said sunscreen causes cancer is when I knew this is legit and I can trust you. I am doing this. I WILL have clear skin and lose weight while doing this as well. On that website, I could only find the Allicidin though, the other supplement does not show up. Is is absolutely necessary to take the other supplement? Please respond! I'm putting my trust into the knowledge you've displayed!

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It's funny to me how this discussion has completely transformed into something other than the original post, yet it's still somewhat related to the title. Not saying it's a bad thing


80%-20% Alkaline forming vs Acid forming Diet

`Organic~
I don't consume:
*Dairy
*Whole grains
*Refined sugars
*Table salt
*Vegetable oils
*Processed/Fast foods
*Genetically Modified Foods (GMOs)
As well as the pesticides/herbicides that come with them

My philosophy: Less externally, more internally

Even taking long hot showers in chemically treated tap water is too harsh for acne prone skin

(And that's without a face wash)

This site is absolutely loaded with info on curing acne internally


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I WILL have clear skin and lose weight while doing this as well.

It is very easy to maintain weight when you eat right. When you eat/drink the way humans should--predominately real, whole anti-inflammatory and nutrient dense foods in place of the processed, industrialized empty and nearly empty calorie foods that make up the typical diet today, you will also be retarding aging and the development of most of the health conditions nearly everyone around you suffers from. And it's prevent wrinkles and help you keep your hair.

Note, an anti-inflammatory diet meant no high glycemic meals, drinks or snacks. It doesn't matter how many carbs you do or don't eat. It's how you eat them.


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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I WILL have clear skin and lose weight while doing this as well.

It is very easy to maintain weight when you eat right. When you eat/drink the way humans should--predominately real, whole anti-inflammatory and nutrient dense foods in place of the processed, industrialized empty and nearly empty calorie foods that make up the typical diet today, you will also be retarding aging and the development of most of the health conditions nearly everyone around you suffers from. And it's prevent wrinkles and help you keep your hair.

Note, an anti-inflammatory diet meant no high glycemic meals, drinks or snacks. It doesn't matter how many carbs you do or don't eat. It's how you eat them.

thanks! What are the high glycemic meals and snacks you recommend avoiding all together?? & my birthday is coming up soon, but I don't want to eat ice cream cake that my mom will buy! It has dairy, sugar, white refined flour, and it's just overall bad. Do you have any suggestions on what I could do instead? Thank you :DD

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I WILL have clear skin and lose weight while doing this as well.

It is very easy to maintain weight when you eat right. When you eat/drink the way humans should--predominately real, whole anti-inflammatory and nutrient dense foods in place of the processed, industrialized empty and nearly empty calorie foods that make up the typical diet today, you will also be retarding aging and the development of most of the health conditions nearly everyone around you suffers from. And it's prevent wrinkles and help you keep your hair.

Note, an anti-inflammatory diet meant no high glycemic meals, drinks or snacks. It doesn't matter how many carbs you do or don't eat. It's how you eat them.

thanks! What are the high glycemic meals and snacks you recommend avoiding all together?? & my birthday is coming up soon, but I don't want to eat ice cream cake that my mom will buy! It has dairy, sugar, white refined flour, and it's just overall bad. Do you have any suggestions on what I could do instead? Thank you :DD

You don't necessarily have to avoid the food. You have to eat it in low to moderate glycemic meals. Fat and fiber lowers the impact, so eat/drink the high glycemic thing in combination/after low glycemic things. Also there's the amount you eat as in a small piece of a pure sugar candy can have a lower impact than a larger just about anything sweet or refined.

Have a small piece of your cake after you have a good low glycemic meal and or other things that lowers the impact such as a salad with a vinagrette dressing, handful of nuts, etc. You can also take a fiber supplement or two before having the cake. Or all of the above. Personally, I like to have some nuts with whatever cake, cookie or whatever. Especially commercially prepared ones that are nearly always way too sweet. But that's as much about taste as it is glycemic impact. And on that note, make sure that vinagrette isn't full of sugar. Panera Bread company, for example, has a raspberry salad dressing sweet enough to be desert.

And generally, don't drink sugar, but certainly do not drink sugary drinks throughout the day without a meal. And that includes juices.


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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@Alternativista I've seen most of your posts and they are very good. You seem very knowledgeable. However this is something that I've noticed and some of my friends have too not saying itll apply to all people. Before I did most of these fasts or cleanses I changed my diet permanently. I literally cut out everything. Thats how desperate I was. I cut out all dairy, gluten, refined foods, chicken. I basically became a vegetarian. This definitely helped. I also took many supplements and used tea tree oil on my skin with aloe vera or emu oil as moisturizers. However when I ate a cheat meal (once in a month) my acne flared up overnight. Also no one in my family has acne just an aunt thats on my step mothers side. So I'm just saying that fasts and cleanses may help a bit more overall, but I know for a fact that acne does go away once you change your diet.

Also @Sepsi you constantly said that you've done all these fasts and cleanses and that the effects are temporary. I mean I just feel like this would happen only if you started eating unhealthy foods again or resorted back to some diet where you ate lots of grains/ gluten/ dairy or non organic foods and unclean water. Your environment, food, lifestyle all do come into play. But I may be wrong.

by the way if most of you wanted to know the book where I got all this information from it is called AcneNoMore it is by Mike Walden a certified Nutritionist. It's at AcneNoMoredotcom. Almost everything that is in the book I have included in this post. Please atleast read all of it. Its not only about juice cleanses and fasts its also about stress and topical treatments.

Oh by the way I don't think I included this but unbalanced hormones also cause acne and they CAN be controlled. The liver generally deactivates hormones that are in the blood but this cannot happen when it is busy doing other things such as trying to rid itself of toxins because it is overloaded. There are many hormone controlling foods and cleansing the liver definitely helps control hormones.


Regimen

Steam my face to open up my pores.

Wash with warm water. (Must not be fluoridated) Fluoride can clogs pores.

Apply Tea Tree Oil soap or Apple Cider Vinegar.

Rinse and Moisturize with Aloe Vera, Emu Oil or Jojoba Oil

Use Tea Tree Oil diluted with jojoba oil for inflamed areas.

Lightly Exfoliate every day with sugar.

Diet

Eat lots of fruits and vegetables and chicken and beef. (Basically the Paleo Diet but with brown rice and Goat Dairy)

Completely cut out processed foods.

Probiotics come mainly from Goat Yogurt and Goat Milk

Recolonize the good bacteria with Goat Yogurt Enemas.

Essential Supplements

HCL to help digestion

Probiotics to recolonize bacteria

Diatomaceous Earth To Help scrub Mucous and drive parasites out of the Gut

Flaxseed Oil for Omega 3s

Iodine/Thyroid Supplements to combat fluoride absorption through shower water

Gluthatione( Master of all antioxidants)

Stress

Lots of meditation

Lots of Sleep (Circadian Rhythum)

Watch Comedy

Exercise Anaerobic is superior to Aerobic in controlling hormones)

Sunlight and Fresh Air are your best friends.

10-15 minutes of Sunlight can be very beneficial to the skin

Keep Plants around the House to clean the air.


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I hate it when people even compare vegetables to fruit, or tell you to replace fruit with veggies. Vegetables can never be the base calories in ones diet, only root vegetables in the form of potatoes could be

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I hate it when people even compare vegetables to fruit, or tell you to replace fruit with veggies. Vegetables can never be the base calories in ones diet, only root vegetables in the form of potatoes could be

yup, veggies do pack the minerals that we need though, should be eating 2-4% of your daily calories from veggies, which is like a head of romane lettuce, basically just eat a decent salad in with your other calories...

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So many of these posts lol I agree that topicals don't do a whoooole lot and that cleansing your system can really help keep acne at bay but to come up with this mad concoction and to basically starve your body isn't a logical way for anyone to clear their skin or to lead a healthier life.

Eat right. Drink right. Get sleep. Every day. It's not as simple (I use the term very loosely) as "eat exactly this for a day, then this" and so on.. You'll make yourself nuts.

It's not even the fact that none of these generalizations are credible. It's impractical. If you're going to do a detox do a daily detox that includes a well-rounded diet.


yinyang.gifStephanie
AM & PM
Cleanse with Clean & Clear Sensitive Foaming Facial Cleanser
Moisturize with Simple Hydrating Light Moisturizer

Tone with Thayer's Rose Petal Witch Hazel Toner with Aloe Vera
*EVERY OTHER NIGHT: Raw Manuka Honey Face Mask overnight

Never felt happier with my skin! amused.gif


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It really isn't that hard or crazy to do a detox or a cleanse. I do them quite often, with pretty much zero disruption to my life. Just saying...


Current Skin-Care Regimen (A work in progress):

Morning:

Gentle wash with DKR cleanser

Benzoyl Peroxide 2.5% (Following Dan's Regimen)

DKR Lotion + A squirt of Argan or Grapeseed oil (The lotion alone wasn't hydrating enough)

Skin 79 Korean BB Cream (excellent stuff)

Evening:

Gentle Wash with DKR Cleanser

Benzoyl Peroxide 2.5% (Following Dan's Regimen)

DKR Lotion + A squirt of Argan or Grapeseed oil


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I didn't read the entire post but I understand the gist of it and I will chime in and say that juicing 3 times a day with vegetables has done wonders for my skin and most importantly my mind, body, and spirit.

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The very best permanent acne cure you'll find is to make changes to your lifestyle and diet. Research had been designed to discover is diet and acne interconnected and they learned that tribes that have a diet that is comprised of vast majority fruits and vegetables rarely have any cases of acne. However those who are having a western diet are afflicted by chronic ailments like allergies and acne. Cases of individuals who are afflicted by acne also is significantly higher than individuals who consume a natural food diet.

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Most of you clearly did not read this whole post, like I said you will have to find out what foods are YOU are allergic to and I did explain that genetics do play a role for everyone so everyone is different. However this is not a new diet this is a process that is done over a 2 week period. All diseases/ conditions are a cause of imbalance within the body. This is Holistic Medicine. One single food is NOT causing your acne. And I have said many times over and over that there will be no studied to EVER prove this. Even if there are I HIGHLY doubt they are going to be in the front page of the NY Times or on your local news channel. REMEMBER Industries such as the acne industry that makes money selling over the counter products and medical prescriptions make money off your acne. If there were more cures around they would not make as much money. EXCESSIVE sun exposure causes skin cancer however it hardly happens. When humans are exposed to sunlight the human body produces a hormone like vitamin known as Vitamin D. This vitamin helps fight against cancer. Most causes of skin cancer today are due to the use of sunscreen, toxic imbalances within the body caused by many environmental factors that are not natural.

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I thought a thread like this would get more replies. I guess nobody wants to try this?

I think the reason no one has tried this is because first off, there wasn't any scientific evidence it would work. Secondly, only the OP claims it works, no one else is backing it up. And thirdly, it's just really extreme. There's hundreds of other people on here who have cured their acne without going to this extreme/weird/crazy diet tongue.png

I definitely think what you eat effects your acne to a great extent. But who's to say this one, exact, specific formula is the cure-all for acne? This is a crazy thing to go through without knowing that it will for sure work....

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The OP makes 50% good advice, 50% bad advice and 100% horrible reasoning. Sorry. Do not listen to this person.

Vanbelle atleast tell me what I am doing wrong. Do not just criticize my posts for any reason. I actually devoted my time to write this and it has worked for many people that I have know, in fact it has worked for me. I did not say that anyone has to try it and not everyone is going to agree. Keep in mind that you can do whatever you want but at the end of the day many conditions/ will be the result of your actions.

hey i just want to ask do i have to do this thing ..the regimen you post always on the bottom mostly the steam the face clense .moisturize and exfoliating every day.....i thought it just eating food...do i have to do that regimen ....to get perfect skin..pls answer quickly...:)

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MysteryTutor, the reason the more veteran people give you hard time is that most of us been in the same place where you are now. I used to believe into that stuff 5 years ago, and you'll see it if you browse my older message.

I've since realized how ridiculous what you claim is. Let me just highlight a few gross mistakes and misunderstandings you made.

Acne is not a disease but a result. ( I will get into this later).

Pedantic and largely meaningless fluff statement. Depends on how you define disease.

Acne is correlated with genetics but only to some extent meaning genetics does not play a huge role.

blockquote>

This is demostrably and massively wrong. Having a 1st degree relative increases your risk of getting acne by 4 times. It's also been demonstrated in many studies that genes alter acne-prone skin so that it becomes more sensitive to androgen hormones. Conversion of testosterone to DHT in the skin is overactive in acne patients, thanks to genes. This causes excess sebum production, hyperkeratinization and excess growth of skin cells.

We also know the skin immune system in acne patients is reacting too strongly to bacteria and pathogens, and this creates the inflammation that triggers acne.

So genes affect ALL the pertinent factors in the acne formation process. This has been shown in many studies, and those evil pharma companies are even developing drugs that could do something about the problem.

Acne is not solely caused by sex, stress, hormones, oily skin, exercise, and fast food.

You got that one about 20% right. Sex has nothing to do with acne. Stress and hormones are among the most important factors in acne. Add inflammation (external and internal) to the mix and you've got the whole recipe.

Acne can be cured not just treated.

This is so wrong it's almost not even wrong. There's nothing we can do at the moment about the genetic disposition to acne we have. We can mitigate it with smart topical treatments, but that's all. The program you outlined does nothing to genes, which is the only way to cure acne.

I'm not saying that what you outlined wouldn't help. It would (especially if you skip the irrelevant cleanses and other nonsense), but all the relavant parts are already discussed here many times over.

This program is not a quick fix, and will be permanent.

Again, so wrong it's not even wrong.

The information I provide here may be a bit overwhelming but I advise you to bare with me, remember if you skip out on this you may still have acne and what is hurtful in reading this?

Not a fact, but marketing pitch for your post.

They will not advertise cures because if there are cures there will be no money in their pockets.)

Conspiracy mongering. False. And bad understanding of market economy. Do you really believe that if one company could develop a permanent cure for acne they would just hold it secret? Because they want to keep selling their cream in an intensly competitive market (and most likely go bankrupt doing it).

You don't see that if a company would develop a permanent cure that works that they would make billions overnight. Can you imagine how much they could charge for it? Most of us would gladly pay thousands of dollars for it. But no, instead they will hold it secret because they will make more money selling creams???

Acne is an internal problem not an external problem

50% correct. Acne is partly internal, but also partly external problem.

Anyway, most of the 'facts' that your theory stands on are false. So the whole thing falls apart like a house of cards.

As a closing statement, please don't take these comments as personal criticism or attack. I appreciate that you are trying to help people, and you should be credited for that.

It's just that ignorance combined with entusiasm is a dangerous combination. I know because I pretty much wasted 7 to 8 years of my life in that natural and alternative nonsense. Not saying all alt-med is bad, but that you have to be discerning and very skeptical of what's promoted there.

Your claims are ridiculous do you honestly believe that acne is solely affected by genetics? My aunt and uncle both have acne but my cousins do not.Not any 4 of them. I hope you also realize that acne has not always existed. The first very few cases of acne were recorded in Ancient Greece. Next you are going to tell me that diseases are solely genetic and cannot be cured but only treated.

By the way, if you do not believe any of these claims here is something. Go on an apple diet for three days eating only organic apples and filtered water. You must also have enemas done. See what happens.

I honestly understand where you are coming from, acne is a terrible condition and it ruins peoples lives. After many failures and attempts people become very skeptical of many things. But I atleast insist that you try he apple diet for 3 days.You will only see results on the 4th or 5th day.

Regimen

Steam my face to open up my pores.

Wash with warm water. (Must not be fluoridated) Fluoride can clogs pores.

Apply Tea Tree Oil soap or Apple Cider Vinegar.

Rinse and Moisturize with Aloe Vera, Emu Oil or Jojoba Oil

Use Tea Tree Oil diluted with jojoba oil for inflamed areas.

Lightly Exfoliate every day with sugar.

hey do i have to this regimen when im at the program pls answer fast..pls

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i think you just copy the idea in the e-book Acne no more by mike walden .

lol dude, thats exactly what i was thinking viewing this... although some stuff he wrote here he got slightly wrong, like his "acne equation".

anm is written much better, but tbh theres alot of good info here.

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I read this book. Acne no More. You broke it down really good. I tried and stuck with a few things like "Healthier diet". But honestly I spend tons of money on all the supplements you will need. The cleanses made me sick to my stomach. Especially the liver cleanse (would not do this again). I never tried again after the first liver cleanse. I guess you have to ask yourself how far are you willing to go to get clear skin? I think it could work for some people,but I couldn't do it.

Thank you for sharing <3

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MysteryTutor, the reason the more veteran people give you hard time is that most of us been in the same place where you are now. I used to believe into that stuff 5 years ago, and you'll see it if you browse my older message.

I've since realized how ridiculous what you claim is. Let me just highlight a few gross mistakes and misunderstandings you made.

Acne is not a disease but a result. ( I will get into this later).

Pedantic and largely meaningless fluff statement. Depends on how you define disease.

>Acne is correlated with genetics but only to some extent meaning genetics does not play a huge role.

lockquote>

This is demostrably and massively wrong. Having a 1st degree relative increases your risk of getting acne by 4 times. It's also been demonstrated in many studies that genes alter acne-prone skin so that it becomes more sensitive to androgen hormones. Conversion of testosterone to DHT in the skin is overactive in acne patients, thanks to genes. This causes excess sebum production, hyperkeratinization and excess growth of skin cells.

We also know the skin immune system in acne patients is reacting too strongly to bacteria and pathogens, and this creates the inflammation that triggers acne.

So genes affect ALL the pertinent factors in the acne formation process. This has been shown in many studies, and those evil pharma companies are even developing drugs that could do something about the problem.

>Acne is not solely caused by sex, stress, hormones, oily skin, exercise, and fast food.

You got that one about 20% right. Sex has nothing to do with acne. Stress and hormones are among the most important factors in acne. Add inflammation (external and internal) to the mix and you've got the whole recipe.

Acne can be cured not just treated.

This is so wrong it's almost not even wrong. There's nothing we can do at the moment about the genetic disposition to acne we have. We can mitigate it with smart topical treatments, but that's all. The program you outlined does nothing to genes, which is the only way to cure acne.

I'm not saying that what you outlined wouldn't help. It would (especially if you skip the irrelevant cleanses and other nonsense), but all the relavant parts are already discussed here many times over.

This program is not a quick fix, and will be permanent.

Again, so wrong it's not even wrong.

The information I provide here may be a bit overwhelming but I advise you to bare with me, remember if you skip out on this you may still have acne and what is hurtful in reading this?

Not a fact, but marketing pitch for your post.

They will not advertise cures because if there are cures there will be no money in their pockets.)

Conspiracy mongering. False. And bad understanding of market economy. Do you really believe that if one company could develop a permanent cure for acne they would just hold it secret? Because they want to keep selling their cream in an intensly competitive market (and most likely go bankrupt doing it).

You don't see that if a company would develop a permanent cure that works that they would make billions overnight. Can you imagine how much they could charge for it? Most of us would gladly pay thousands of dollars for it. But no, instead they will hold it secret because they will make more money selling creams???

Acne is an internal problem not an external problem

50% correct. Acne is partly internal, but also partly external problem.

Anyway, most of the 'facts' that your theory stands on are false. So the whole thing falls apart like a house of cards.

As a closing statement, please don't take these comments as personal criticism or attack. I appreciate that you are trying to help people, and you should be credited for that.

It's just that ignorance combined with entusiasm is a dangerous combination. I know because I pretty much wasted 7 to 8 years of my life in that natural and alternative nonsense. Not saying all alt-med is bad, but that you have to be discerning and very skeptical of what's promoted there.

Your claims are ridiculous do you honestly believe that acne is solely affected by genetics? My aunt and uncle both have acne but my cousins do not.Not any 4 of them. I hope you also realize that acne has not always existed. The first very few cases of acne were recorded in Ancient Greece. Next you are going to tell me that diseases are solely genetic and cannot be cured but only treated.

By the way, if you do not believe any of these claims here is something. Go on an apple diet for three days eating only organic apples and filtered water. You must also have enemas done. See what happens.

I honestly understand where you are coming from, acne is a terrible condition and it ruins peoples lives. After many failures and attempts people become very skeptical of many things. But I atleast insist that you try he apple diet for 3 days.You will only see results on the 4th or 5th day.

Every factor involved in acne formation is genetic. A person can not get acne unless they carry four genetic traits no matter how they live or eat.

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