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My Toes And Fingers Are Constantly Frozen. Sign Of Thyroid Issue =Acne Maybe?

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A given, its been pretty damn cold lately but my toes and feet are noticablly freezing cold they literally feel like ice blocks. i was wearing 4 paits of socks the other day, they were so thick they all couldnt fit on but i was still freezing. i swear gloves every day now. my hands arent as bad as my feet but i've definitely noticed this to be an issue. the only major 'health issue' ive had besides the hormonal acne is just a b12 issues but thats back to normal apparently. could my freezing toes be a thyroid issue that might relate to hormones. i wont be surprised but even so i do everything possible to help all my body functions - have for the past nearly 2 years now so i doubt there is extra i can do my body is just messed up and very very stubborn.

im just really curious though what freezing hands and feet might mean? is there any links to that an acne in the sense of things like thyroid and if so what might be wrong and how/why does it happen?

thankyou :)

p.s ive had my thyroid tested and it came up healthy.

yet so did my liver and everything else but i still have problems so i dont trust tests.

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I would also like to know about this. My feet are cold all the time except right after I work out. I always just ignored it, but I am curious about why that happens and if it has anything to do with acne.

Are there times when your feet are not cold? Like after working out?


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I have cold hands and feet too. I always read circulation could be the cause but I had it even when I was very athletic.

I also have had my thyroid and liver checked a few times and they never found a problem. I just had a blood test on Friday for coeliac and pancreas enzymes, hoping to get to the bottom of my problems. I did read that cold hands and feet were a symptom of coeliac and I am pretty sure gluten is a problem for me so for now I have put it down to that. I think cold extremeties can be a symptom of a lot of illnesses.

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I have the same problem, where my hands and feet are always ridiculously cold and the majority of the time I leave the house in cold weather, my hands end up turning blue/black and begin to wrinkle up. I got tested for Reynauds disease, but the results came back negative, so I'm at a loss.


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[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

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Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

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http://www.wellnessresources.com/weight_tips/articles/body_temperature_and_thyroid_problems/

http://www.dannyroddy.com/main/2011/6/27/becoming-the-warmest-man-alive.html

Some links that could be helpful. Eating enough of the right types of foods, and eating enough in general helped warm me up. Putting a bit of salt on every meal and consuming sugars (from fruits) helped quite a bit as well.

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To the OP. Dieting is silly. The only point of a diet should be to heal your body. Once that's done as long as you get the nutrients you need in you diet, you can eat whatever the hell you want. I think that's the big thing people are missing.


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SAAAME! I also wondered if there would be a connection too.

My hands and feet are most of the time frozen cold, but sometimes it's like its on fire, specially after workouts though.

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im glad im not alone. my toes are definitely the worst. my hands are warm right now but i cant even feel my toes.

its not even cold out.

so is the consenus actually a thyroid problem? I've read the things for good thyroid function before and followed many but diet has yet to effect me like i wish it did -_- its been quite a long time too

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Very interesting I had this my entire life as well. It's Reynauds like someone said, or at least thats what its suppose to be, but honestly I think its just a circulation problem. When I drink alcohol or workout it goes away. I actually believe this to be a big reason for acne. It seems the blood flow in our faces slows down, making it easier for infections and clogs.. and which why I think a lot of people notice they clear up on Niacin. Another reason to make sure you get daily exercise, to keep the blood flowin.

But yeah this could all be related to the thyroid, just like what were talking about in the iodine topic.

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I have cold hands and feet pretty much all day everyday. Also my feet are always dark red or dark purple! I am a very pale skinned person except for my feet, they are never the same color as the rest of me. It sort of scares me sometimes. haha

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Yea.... I've been like this since I was very little. So it could be related to genetics.

Poor circulation, yea sweating or exercising definately warms them up. And when they are warm, they are sooo warm. It's like the temprature of my hand is either too cold or too hot. It just changes between those 2.

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iron deficiency has similar symptoms. are you eating meat on a regular basis?


#1.critical nutritional issues- b12(three forms exist), Calcium(yogurt, cheese or calcium phosphate supps) and vitamin d(sun or supps not to exceed 1000 iu). heme iron-most absorbable from meat only, clams are high. these are the most difficult vitamins to get and absorb. All others or about the same in difficulty in absorption. MAgnesium in our food supply is generally low as well, try natural calm supps.

#2 Fats- monounsaturated should dominate(olives), followed by polyunsaturated plant sources(nuts) but not if you have acne. the health benefits of fish oil and fish are controversial and i dont consume them due to mercury contamination and immune supression avoid processed fats if possible.

#3 Protein/amino acids- dairy and eggs best sources for tryptophan and methionine which convert to powerful antioxidants melatonin and glutathione.

#4 Carotenoids- alpha- beta carotene, beta cryptoxanthin, lutein zeaxanthin, astaxanthin. these are vital to human nutrition, carrots, butternut squash, pumpkin, chili pepper and cayenne pepper are the best sources.

#5 Regularity-BM at least once a day, Moist, large stools, 1 piece ideal, no maldigestion, no floating stools indicative of maldigested fat. HOW- insoluble fiber- wheat and cooked vegetables. soluble fiber-oats/ good bacteria ferment soluble fiber making short chain fatty acids that inhibit pathogens.

#6 Circadian cycles-Light, get up with the sun, and expose your entire body to it. darkness-melatonin is released upon the sensing of absolute darkness. sleep in a pitch black room, try to ensure 10 hours total darkness, wear sunglasses before bed. do not eat too late at night.

#7 Desirable physiological states(positive moods/emotions) do precisely what you like and what feels good to you, but not regardless of consequences, just from a perspective that, you own your life, and can determine precisely what you do with it and need not answer or ask of permission from anyone,achieving maximum autonomy and self government.


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iron deficiency has similar symptoms. are you eating meat on a regular basis?

definitely isnt. i eat A LOT of red meat.

interesting how there's a lot of people with this problem.

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Yea.... I've been like this since I was very little. So it could be related to genetics.

Poor circulation, yea sweating or exercising definately warms them up. And when they are warm, they are sooo warm. It's like the temprature of my hand is either too cold or too hot. It just changes between those 2.

Yeah that's poor circulation. The ends are either getting not enough blood or too much. Our ends being our feet, hands, and head.

Gingko Biloba is suppose to be a great herb to enhance blood circulation, some people specifically take it for reynauds or coldness in hands and feet.

How many of you are very intolerant to cold? I grew up in NY and after 20 years never got used to the cold lol. I freeze so easily, will get shakes and what not, and my hands will be literally purple haha.

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Yea.... I've been like this since I was very little. So it could be related to genetics.

Poor circulation, yea sweating or exercising definately warms them up. And when they are warm, they are sooo warm. It's like the temprature of my hand is either too cold or too hot. It just changes between those 2.

Yeah that's poor circulation. The ends are either getting not enough blood or too much. Our ends being our feet, hands, and head.

Not necessarily, it could be caused by poor thyroid function. I was looking this up, and it seems the thyroid can often be having problems if your adrenal glands are over burdened. This has a big connection with acne.

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iron deficiency has similar symptoms. are you eating meat on a regular basis?

I grew up on meat, trust me, my family is like full carnivorous. I do tend to avoid beef though. Now I eat more of chicken.

Yet still, my hands and feet are cold, but sometimes wayy too hot. Also to add in, I have excessive palm sweating. But then, even when I am not sweating they are still cold.

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yea, im no doctor thats for sure, but you could look up your symptoms on one of those doctor sites, but you will likely come across lots of different possibilitys, or you could go to a doctor where they cant test for everything, take you for a ride of your financial life until you are broke as a joke, unless your insurance is real good.

or well, maybe its just cold out? and you are in an anxious state of mind? hands are the most likely part of your body to be cold because they are so far away from your core. try putting a sweater on, getting some exercise, or turning up the heat in your house, or maybe your body fat is so low that also makes you colder. best bet is see a doctor, or if you can remember when you first started feeling this way and what happened that may have caused this? certain diet, sleeping patterns?etc.

yea, im no doctor thats for sure, but you could look up your symptoms on one of those doctor sites, but you will likely come across lots of different possibilitys, or you could go to a doctor where they cant test for everything, take you for a ride of your financial life until you are broke as a joke, unless your insurance is real good.

or well, maybe its just cold out? and you are in an anxious state of mind? hands are the most likely part of your body to be cold because they are so far away from your core. try putting a sweater on, getting some exercise, or turning up the heat in your house, or maybe your body fat is so low that also makes you colder. best bet is see a doctor, or if you can remember when you first started feeling this way and what happened that may have caused this? certain diet, sleeping patterns?etc.


#1.critical nutritional issues- b12(three forms exist), Calcium(yogurt, cheese or calcium phosphate supps) and vitamin d(sun or supps not to exceed 1000 iu). heme iron-most absorbable from meat only, clams are high. these are the most difficult vitamins to get and absorb. All others or about the same in difficulty in absorption. MAgnesium in our food supply is generally low as well, try natural calm supps.

#2 Fats- monounsaturated should dominate(olives), followed by polyunsaturated plant sources(nuts) but not if you have acne. the health benefits of fish oil and fish are controversial and i dont consume them due to mercury contamination and immune supression avoid processed fats if possible.

#3 Protein/amino acids- dairy and eggs best sources for tryptophan and methionine which convert to powerful antioxidants melatonin and glutathione.

#4 Carotenoids- alpha- beta carotene, beta cryptoxanthin, lutein zeaxanthin, astaxanthin. these are vital to human nutrition, carrots, butternut squash, pumpkin, chili pepper and cayenne pepper are the best sources.

#5 Regularity-BM at least once a day, Moist, large stools, 1 piece ideal, no maldigestion, no floating stools indicative of maldigested fat. HOW- insoluble fiber- wheat and cooked vegetables. soluble fiber-oats/ good bacteria ferment soluble fiber making short chain fatty acids that inhibit pathogens.

#6 Circadian cycles-Light, get up with the sun, and expose your entire body to it. darkness-melatonin is released upon the sensing of absolute darkness. sleep in a pitch black room, try to ensure 10 hours total darkness, wear sunglasses before bed. do not eat too late at night.

#7 Desirable physiological states(positive moods/emotions) do precisely what you like and what feels good to you, but not regardless of consequences, just from a perspective that, you own your life, and can determine precisely what you do with it and need not answer or ask of permission from anyone,achieving maximum autonomy and self government.


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yea, im no doctor thats for sure, but you could look up your symptoms on one of those doctor sites, but you will likely come across lots of different possibilitys, or you could go to a doctor where they cant test for everything, take you for a ride of your financial life until you are broke as a joke, unless your insurance is real good.

or well, maybe its just cold out? and you are in an anxious state of mind? hands are the most likely part of your body to be cold because they are so far away from your core. try putting a sweater on, getting some exercise, or turning up the heat in your house, or maybe your body fat is so low that also makes you colder. best bet is see a doctor, or if you can remember when you first started feeling this way and what happened that may have caused this? certain diet, sleeping patterns?etc.

yea, im no doctor thats for sure, but you could look up your symptoms on one of those doctor sites, but you will likely come across lots of different possibilitys, or you could go to a doctor where they cant test for everything, take you for a ride of your financial life until you are broke as a joke, unless your insurance is real good.

or well, maybe its just cold out? and you are in an anxious state of mind? hands are the most likely part of your body to be cold because they are so far away from your core. try putting a sweater on, getting some exercise, or turning up the heat in your house, or maybe your body fat is so low that also makes you colder. best bet is see a doctor, or if you can remember when you first started feeling this way and what happened that may have caused this? certain diet, sleeping patterns?etc.

Nope from all the things I've researched and anazled, it wasn't usually the outside cold, it wasn't much of my sleeping patterns, it wasn't the clothes I wear. It just makes sense that it's probably low circulation.

Even when I am relaxed chilling at home, my hands are cold so it's not related to anxiety for me.

I remember being like this since I was a kid (Though where I used to live as a kid was naturally quite cold). I know many people who are like this, doctors only say it's circulatory or iron defficiency and it's natural or something dull.

It just seems like I am more sensitive, not quite in a stable thermal balance. Either too hot or too cold.

And I've always wondered if it had connection with acne.

Also my little baby brother is also like this too, so it's genetics.

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Yeah it has nothing to do with how cold it is outside. It's an abnormal disorder. I would be sitting in gym class and my hands would turn bright purple just from being in a slightly colder area. People who have this know it's not normal lol, there are cold hands, and then there are purple hands, very different :P

Probably is our thyroids. I don't get this though I had several blood tests taken to a year ago for all this shit, and everything came back as "completely healthy", so even in 2012 they are still rather clueless to finding the mysteries of the human body.

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in 2012 they are still rather clueless to finding the mysteries of the human body.

that is still no mystery to me!!!

i have good news though, the human microbiome project will be finished in a few years mapping all the bacteria on the human body, i feel confident that this will provide about a 70% explanation for all diseases of western civilization and we will come to the realization that the use of antibiotics and preservatives in processed foods, and eating processed grains had destroyed our health for the last 100 years.

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#1.critical nutritional issues- b12(three forms exist), Calcium(yogurt, cheese or calcium phosphate supps) and vitamin d(sun or supps not to exceed 1000 iu). heme iron-most absorbable from meat only, clams are high. these are the most difficult vitamins to get and absorb. All others or about the same in difficulty in absorption. MAgnesium in our food supply is generally low as well, try natural calm supps.

#2 Fats- monounsaturated should dominate(olives), followed by polyunsaturated plant sources(nuts) but not if you have acne. the health benefits of fish oil and fish are controversial and i dont consume them due to mercury contamination and immune supression avoid processed fats if possible.

#3 Protein/amino acids- dairy and eggs best sources for tryptophan and methionine which convert to powerful antioxidants melatonin and glutathione.

#4 Carotenoids- alpha- beta carotene, beta cryptoxanthin, lutein zeaxanthin, astaxanthin. these are vital to human nutrition, carrots, butternut squash, pumpkin, chili pepper and cayenne pepper are the best sources.

#5 Regularity-BM at least once a day, Moist, large stools, 1 piece ideal, no maldigestion, no floating stools indicative of maldigested fat. HOW- insoluble fiber- wheat and cooked vegetables. soluble fiber-oats/ good bacteria ferment soluble fiber making short chain fatty acids that inhibit pathogens.

#6 Circadian cycles-Light, get up with the sun, and expose your entire body to it. darkness-melatonin is released upon the sensing of absolute darkness. sleep in a pitch black room, try to ensure 10 hours total darkness, wear sunglasses before bed. do not eat too late at night.

#7 Desirable physiological states(positive moods/emotions) do precisely what you like and what feels good to you, but not regardless of consequences, just from a perspective that, you own your life, and can determine precisely what you do with it and need not answer or ask of permission from anyone,achieving maximum autonomy and self government.


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Well thats good. Like seriously wtf is going on, they throw billions upon billions on so much useless things these days, you could pay a bunch of scientists millions of dollars to find out everything in the body lol, "fine the cure for acne, winner gets a million" it would take like a week. I know it's naive to assume such things, but really no scientists take acne seriously, there is such little research on it, if they made it a huge priority to me it seems like they could find a cure.

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Well thats good. Like seriously wtf is going on, they throw billions upon billions on so much useless things these days, you could pay a bunch of scientists millions of dollars to find out everything in the body lol, "fine the cure for acne, winner gets a million" it would take like a week. I know it's naive to assume such things, but really no scientists take acne seriously, there is such little research on it, if they made it a huge priority to me it seems like they could find a cure.

there are so many problems to tackle, and there are limitations, but i assume they do an ok job of prioritizing funding of course there are always room for improvements in anything, and science is so young in its practice, the microscope i dont even think is any more then 300 years old, excluding the earlier designs that were like, eyeglasses in comparison.

think of the very name of the condition we are here for, p. acnes, its the name of a friggin bacteria, so you see what im getting at here???its teh name of this entire website for christs sake!!


#1.critical nutritional issues- b12(three forms exist), Calcium(yogurt, cheese or calcium phosphate supps) and vitamin d(sun or supps not to exceed 1000 iu). heme iron-most absorbable from meat only, clams are high. these are the most difficult vitamins to get and absorb. All others or about the same in difficulty in absorption. MAgnesium in our food supply is generally low as well, try natural calm supps.

#2 Fats- monounsaturated should dominate(olives), followed by polyunsaturated plant sources(nuts) but not if you have acne. the health benefits of fish oil and fish are controversial and i dont consume them due to mercury contamination and immune supression avoid processed fats if possible.

#3 Protein/amino acids- dairy and eggs best sources for tryptophan and methionine which convert to powerful antioxidants melatonin and glutathione.

#4 Carotenoids- alpha- beta carotene, beta cryptoxanthin, lutein zeaxanthin, astaxanthin. these are vital to human nutrition, carrots, butternut squash, pumpkin, chili pepper and cayenne pepper are the best sources.

#5 Regularity-BM at least once a day, Moist, large stools, 1 piece ideal, no maldigestion, no floating stools indicative of maldigested fat. HOW- insoluble fiber- wheat and cooked vegetables. soluble fiber-oats/ good bacteria ferment soluble fiber making short chain fatty acids that inhibit pathogens.

#6 Circadian cycles-Light, get up with the sun, and expose your entire body to it. darkness-melatonin is released upon the sensing of absolute darkness. sleep in a pitch black room, try to ensure 10 hours total darkness, wear sunglasses before bed. do not eat too late at night.

#7 Desirable physiological states(positive moods/emotions) do precisely what you like and what feels good to you, but not regardless of consequences, just from a perspective that, you own your life, and can determine precisely what you do with it and need not answer or ask of permission from anyone,achieving maximum autonomy and self government.


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I just saw an article that named nonalcoholic fatty liver disease as a culprit in low functioning thyroid. And considering this fat tends to be made from excess fructose as in the massive amounts of HFCS in diets these days, it's no wonder it's a groing problem. Of ourselves the stress, poor sleeping habits and nutrient deficient diet habits are also major factors.


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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I can relate to this entire post, Daft Frost everything you said is me to a tee.

In the winter I freeze and my hands and feet are like a dead persons (gives some people to creeps lol). But if I warm up too much my fingers feel uncomfortably warm an can look red. Especially after excercise. I also think I may a bit of rocacea as my face can look redish and feel warm at certain triggers.

I had to self-diagnose chilblains this January. I went to the doctor who said "excema" I knew it wasnt.I just kept looking on the internet till i found aphoto exactlt like mine. Pretty sad, I had to find my own symptoms (some impressive doctor!) and apparently less than 1% of people get this condition. Lucky I guess :-)


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