Hi Alternavista! See bottom of thread for a study I wanted to send to you regarding Bifidobacterium and Linoleic acid!!! I think you may have already posted this study. But I wanted to re-iterate that I think that altered gut microflora can prevent the availability of linoleic acid in the lipid layers of the skin where sebum is produced. This is observed in cases of Irritable Bowel Syndrome, but many of us have altered gut flora which I explain at the bottom of my post. Antibiotics take for acne and other childhood illnesses can be a culprit. It takes a long time to reverse this, and you CANT pop random probiotics. They have to be high quality lactobacilli and bifidobacterium-types (e.g. Natren) and maybe in very small doses at first so you don't aggrevate inflammation!! In many gut healing protocols such as GAPS, the probiotics are introduced VERY SLOWLY until well-tolerated. Probiotics are almost like a transplant! You can't chug them like water, they need to be respected
For those of you reading this, if you have closed comedonal or cycstic acne, this is the thread for you!!! Topical linoleic really works. HERE IS THE THING. Many posters on this thread said they tried the linoleic acid for 1 or two months!! In addition to making healthy dietary changes and some of the other great things that Altavista has suggested, if you are going to commit to topical application of linoleic acid, I think you will be MUCH MORE SUCCESSFUL if you commit to trying this for 4 to 5 months. Pay close attention to the SIZE of your existing bumps/acnes. Are they diminishing? Are whiteheads turning into blackheads? THis means sebum content is changing. From what I have researched, as long as you are not disrupting your acid mantle with cleansers, creams and chlorinated water (still working on the cholorine issue myself) then you have a good chance of changing your skin with topical application but it takes TIME! And if you can tolerate it, a salicylic acid toner will break up existing plugs while you are changing the sebum content down deep in the pore. My 2 cents.
Recap: I have an autoimmune condition, Mild IBS-C, and a (related to gut) painful bladder condition and being treated by a holistic Dr. I have had acne since 15 that became closed comedonal adult acne and oily skin (Now am 46, sigh) and always used BP/SA topicals. I stopped topicals about 6 weeks ago because they were flaring my condition, and after a brief and horrid foray into jojoba oil (YIKES) I settled on hemp and safflower oil. I know they were working because my whiteheads were diminishing and reverting to blackheads and my skin was slowly, slowing, clearing/healing.
The sad and endlessly frustrating thing about this is that my gut/immune system does not like the high tocopherol content of these linoleic oils. Or perhaps the linoleic acid itself, but most likely the tocopherols. Sigh. Even 2 drops X 2x per day flares my bladder/gut condition. I am wondering what else I can do to address my closed comedonal acne? As I try to heal from the inside out. I have yeast overgrowth (not severe) and SIBO, and leaky gut from taking antibiotics last year for dental work (could KILL my peridontist!!). I am being treated for all of this, from a Chinese Medicine and western perspective.
Currently, since I can't "fake it till I make it" with linoleic acid, I am doing the following ( keeping in mind I can only put on my skin something I could eat):
I have had no sugar or alcohol for 10-11 months. I eat a balanced low GI diet at EVERY MEAL and have for 10 months because of my health condition. I do not snack on carbs like I used to! I take probiotics. I take Carlesons Cod Liver oil. I am going to start one cup of green tea per day. I use a toner of fresh brewed green tea to minimize sebum production and lavender oil for scarring (I tolerate these). I am trying to get the right chlorine filter for my shower. I only wash with warm water and microfiber cloth. Is there ANYTHNG else I can do. I need to re-read your good things for acne thread as well. Below are specific questions. THANK YOU!!!
What is your take on the clarisonic, used properly (i.e. NO excessive pressure or overuse) for linoleic acid-deficient skin? (I dont get cycstic acne). If you think it is ok then how often would you recommend?
What is your take on plain yogurt mask? Some swear by this. I have tried this lactic acid mask and it feels fine but I think it is bringing more bumps to the surface so not sure if it is just a purge thing or if I should only do the mask once in a while?
What is your take on chamomile?
Do you think one cup of coffee per day with full fat cream or grass fed butter is ok? At home I drink Paleo Coffee (Brewed coffee blended in the blender to perfection with sweet butter that is high in CLA-Anyone interested can see paleo coffee demo on Youtube!) Since I eat no sugar and don't drink, this is my only treat. The only dairy I eat is grass fed butter and occasional goat feta.
It is possible that I can go back to linoleic acid when my gut is more healed.
Thanks so much for any thoughts on the above!!
P.S. here is a link to a study that suggests that low levels of the necessary gut bacteria (Bifidobacerium) might impair fatty acid metabolism. This means that linoleic acid cant be delivered to adipose tissue (lipid layers) where we need it for sebum production. This study looks at Irritable Bowel Syndrom. Many, many people have altered gut flora from antibiotic treatments, cesarian birth, NSAID use, Steroid use, and chemical birth control use among others. Let me know what you think about this. Further argument for probiotic supplementation especially if you have a gut or autoimmune condition (Think ANY of the auto-immunes) and also any Irritable Bowel Disease presentation such as IBS, Crohnes, UC, etc...)
"Regulation of adipose tissue and liver fatty acid composition by gut microbes
Gut microbiota can also affect host metabolism and inflammatory state by modulating the tissue fatty acid composition: mammalian intestinal Lactobacilli and Bifidobacteria can synthesize from free linoleic acid bioactive isomers of conjugated linoleic acid, which have antidiabetic, anti-atherosclerotic, immunomodulatory, and anti-obesity properties (42). The supplementation of Bifidobacterium breve and linoleic acid to different mammalian species resulted in a two- to threefold higher intestinal, hepatic, and adipose tissue content of cis-9, trans-11 conjugated linoleic acid, eicosapentaenoic acid, and docosahexaenoic acid, concomitantly with a reduced proinflammatory cytokines TNF-α, IL-6, and interferon-γ expression, than the linoleic acid-alone supplemented diet (43) (supplementary Table 1)."
Put this in search engine. It is partial but will bring up the study, and also try the study link below:
Bifidobacterium breve with α-Linolenic Acid and Linoleic Acid Alters Fatty Acid Metabolism
Edited by mimij67, 16 July 2013 - 02:35 PM.