despite not trying the old moisturizer. i agree full-heartedly. I really dislike the way the AHA makes my face feel, i've used other aha creams that soak in beautifully, but the acne.org, while being higher percentage of acid, sits on my skin and leaves it greasy, and balls up with my moisturizer (eucerin intensive repair and cetaphil lotion) and i was on the look out for a new moisturizer, but just as i was about to purchase the one from here, they switched it to the new one. and i didn't want to buy the old one just to have it run out if i loved it.
They really, REALLY should give us the option of both. but the chances of that are slim to none. Dan is the boss and what he says goes. So we should just stop making threads like this. because it has got us nowhere.
I don't believe we should stop making these threads. Dan's become a man who makes it apparent he listens to feedback from his customers and strives to make a product that satisfies what we need that store bought brands cannot. When a product gets released, I'm sure he expects the majority of us to give him insight as to what's wrong and what's good about his product so he can further improve on making a high quality and effective product. Just like he's done ever since he started the whole thing. Heck his whole blog is proof of how much he looks to us to suggest on improvements to his products. That's why I don't think we should just stand idly by and just let him continue producing a mediocre moisturizer. The more people who make threads like this, the more attention is brought to the problem, and the faster the problem is dealt with. Dan is indeed the boss, but he has been known to change things up from suggestions given to him by customers(ala, the addition of lichochalcone, the new bottles, etc..) so I hope he is at the very least aware of this problem, and perhaps contemplating the removal of lichochalcone in the moisturizer.
I just want to put in my 2 cents. First of all, Kangin, "fragrance free" means no added perfumes or extra ingredients for the sole purpose of smelling good. Obviously the product is going to smell like something, often times added "extras" only irritate and clog pores, which Dan's moisturizer does neither.
Also, I also used the old moisturizer back in the day, and I really like it. I use the new moisturizer now, and I also really like it. For some reason, companies do not know how to make moisturizers for acne prone skin. Cerave, cetaphil, all contain pore clogging ingredients, and also break me out (though they definitely work for some people). Dan's moisturizer does not break me out at all, and when I add extra jojoba oil my face is never flaky. It's really not that bad Kangin.
Regardless of what is meant by "fragrance free", you can't deny the smell it puts off. A poster on here described it as a mixture between dirt, and beer. And I'd have to say it's quite accurate. I'm not sure where flakiness came to play here, but flakiness is not even a problem because of how oily/greasy the moisturizer leaves your skin feeling.
Let me just ask, what exactly is the purpose of adding lichochalcone in the moisturizer? It's to have the calming and soothing properties of the root. But why not just keep those properties in the AHA+ and leave the moisturizer by itself? That way you satisfy both the people who want lichochalcone in their regimen, and those who do not but still want to use the moisturizer.
"But having it in the moisturizer makes the moisturizer even better!" you might say...but why would you need it in the moisturizer when you can just mix the AHA and the moisturizer together to have both properties? Just like his blog post http://www.acne.org/...isturizer-bffs/
says you could do. By mixing the two together, it completely removes the need to even have lichochalcone in the moisturizer because you can just add it as you'd like
via the AHA+. The key here is in the bold. This gives us the option to use it, but does not force us to use it if we want to use the moisturizer.
Edited by kangin, 20 April 2012 - 09:07 AM.